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paultagakgraner: howdy, friendo00:57
akgranerpaultag, hey!00:57
akgranerhow are ya - have you recovered?00:57
akgraner:-)00:57
paultagakgraner: mostly :)00:57
paultagakgraner: have a minute?00:57
akgraneryeppers00:57
nigelbgood morning :)03:11
akgranerJFo - looks like the videos were on my phone03:11
akgranerpete is going to see if he can pull them off  - but right now  - I am not seeing a way to..:-(03:11
nhandlerakgraner: You can't send them via bluetooth?03:13
akgranerthe phone is bricked03:14
akgranerit won't boot03:14
akgranersamsung update screwed it up this morning  - it won't go into the boot loader now03:14
akgranerI think the data is safe but I can't seem to get to it at the moment03:15
akgranerI am getting a new phone from T-mobile this week I have all the info on the SD card but the info that was stored on the phone is another story :-(  so sad03:16
nhandler:(03:18
akgranerI know right :-/  if you have the Samsung Galaxy S don't use the Samsung upgrade wait for the the t-mobile over the air one03:19
akgranerBut on a goof note - I submitted my OSCON talk :-)  nothing like waiting til the last minute  - Whew!03:21
nigelbooooooh, on today's google doodle, if you move down, you can see narwhals!03:26
nigelbWIN03:26
JFoakgraner, :-(03:32
akgranerJFo I know..but can't dwell on it - just moving on as there is nothing to see here...03:33
dpmgood morning all06:57
nigelbmorning dpm :)06:57
nigelbhey dholbach :)07:06
dholbachgood morning07:06
dholbachhey nigelb07:06
nigelb(for the first time, before he wishes)07:06
nigelb;)07:06
dpmgood morning nigelb07:08
dpmmorgen dholbach07:08
dholbachhola dpm07:08
dholbach¿qué tal?07:09
dpmbé, bé, gràcies :) i tu?07:09
dholbachmuy bien, gracias :)07:10
dpm:)07:10
dholbachdpm, you're trying to confuse me! :)07:10
dpmlife would be boring otherwise!07:10
dholbachI should try to reply Austrian the next time07:11
dholbachalthough they have their own country :-P07:11
dholbachI guess that was mean ;-)07:11
dpmit's just a matter of time until we conquer Europe07:12
nigelblol07:14
nigelbwhy is my ssh session not utf8? :(07:17
Tm_Tsorry, I think I switched the wrong bit07:18
kim0Morning08:03
dholbachhey kim008:03
kim0dholbach: hey man08:03
nigelbhola kim0, ara :)08:03
kim0nigelb: howdy08:03
aramorning nigelb, kim008:04
kim0ara: morning o/08:04
nigelbJFo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0hfg1htnM408:07
AlanBellis that a soothing lullaby?08:16
popeynot _quite_08:16
nigelbNot exactly.08:17
popeyI think it's some old fart claiming that music was good back in his day :)(08:17
nigelbhah08:19
doctormopopey: Everything was better back in my dad.08:20
doctormoday*08:21
AlanBellthey don't make typos like they used to08:21
doctormoThe music from the Spice girls and S-Club7 just can't be beaten with the likes of modern sell-outs.08:21
duanedesignmorning friends10:18
nigelbmorning duanedesign10:22
duanedesignhello :)10:23
duanedesignfixing to get more snow :\10:23
duanedesignyesterday was the first day in a week that everything was open from the last storm10:24
duanedesigni hope we get far less then anticipated10:24
duanedesignI want to search all the members of the Beginners Team and find who is also a member of Bug Control. Is there a script that exists that does something like this?12:36
dholbachduanedesign, nigelb is working on a similar script for loco teams and the developer team12:44
dholbachI think it's almost finished12:44
duanedesignthank you12:46
duanedesignthe google logo today is pretty cool.12:55
nigelbduanedesign: I should post it in a couple of days :)12:55
nigelbduanedesign: I hate querying lp.  takes 5 minutes to test one change :p12:56
duanedesignoh cool thank you nigelb12:57
dholbachnigelb, I organised a few people for UDW12:58
dholbachhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable - there's still a couple of empty slots12:59
* kim0 away -all → Dentist appointment13:29
jcastrobuenas mornings!13:57
popeyYO!13:57
czajkowskiohh13:57
* czajkowski hugs jcastro 13:57
czajkowskiALOHA!13:57
Picihowdy13:59
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czajkowskithat's ye all done :)14:00
Pici:)14:01
duanedesignmorning all14:20
nigelbdholbach: super14:33
nigelbdholbach: let me see if I can fill the rest up ;)14:33
vishjcastro: whenever someone asks about why we are not updating gnome, i tell them that there is not much manpower to handle both unity and gnome this cycle . for which i get flamed that a new UI is more work and that manpower is less is not a valid argument.. :s  how are you handling these questions?14:58
vishie, what can I answer better? :D14:58
vishi just eventually give up and say, "I'm just the messenger" :)15:01
jcastrowell, I send them to this15:01
jcastrohttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2011-January/002740.html15:01
jcastroand then tell them we can't update to gnome3 AND deliver GNOME2 as a fallback15:01
jcastroit's either one of the other15:01
vishyea.. thats my fave bookmark15:01
nigelbhehe15:01
jcastroand if they think it's easy then they can join the team and show everyone how easy it is15:02
jcastro:)15:02
jcastroditto for "why not make another ISO"15:02
vishyea!15:02
jcastroor "where is gnomebuntu"15:02
jcastroor "why doesn't the ppa work yet"15:02
nigelbNote to self:  Never argue with jcastro.15:02
nigelb;)15:02
nigelbjcastro: hey, is it possible to schedule one of those Q and A sessions we had lately during UDW?15:04
nigelbThose are Cannonifolk, so I'm not so sure abuot barging in and asking them15:04
jcastroyeah15:04
jcastrobasically the same thing jason and I did for userdays we can do again for UDW15:04
jcastroexcept for developers15:04
jcastronigelb: just ask them, UDW is a community event15:06
nigelbjcastro: okay :)15:07
akgranerjcastro, have those QA been moved officially to ubuntu-classroom and ubuntu-classroom-chat15:33
akgranerI am working on a blog post and wanted to make sure I got the information on where to send people to listed correctly - jcastro - I'm only asking you b/c well you are da man with all the answers :-D15:35
jcastroit's a normal UDW event15:35
jcastroso yeah, awesome by default15:35
akgranerI was asking b/c of lasts weeks -meeting debacle for the kernel QA15:36
akgranerand Robbie is up next on the schedule for the 11th15:36
akgranerso sorry wasn't asking about the UDW events but the Canonical QA stuffs :-)15:37
vishhmm, would taking a "Taking bite out of Unity" be a good title for jcastro's session.. ;)15:37
nigelbvish: ooh, changing.15:38
akgranerdholbach, did you see the email I cc'd you on for Ubuntu Development?  I'm getting more and more "How can I get started questions" so I think I got all the links right.15:38
nigelbhaha, I keep recruiting people for UDW and I end up taking a session ;)15:55
czajkowskiakgraner: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2011-February/028700.html16:04
czajkowskibah16:04
czajkowskiakgraner: https://twitter.com/#!/ArmyWives/statuses/3500565606289817616:05
akgranerczajkowski, looking now16:05
akgranersweet!16:06
czajkowski:D16:06
vishooh! nice to see jcastro dint nominate himself for the askubuntu mods.. :)  its like giving others chance to shine :)16:25
vishi'm like where can i vote for jcastro !! and ah! he aint here..16:26
nigelbvish: where do we vote?16:27
vishhttp://askubuntu.com/election/1?tab=election16:27
nigelbthanks16:27
nigelb17.k repution? wow16:28
dholbachakgraner, thanks a lot16:29
nigelbdholbach: I may have increased the size of your inbox by 2, but the schedule looks fuller now16:29
jcastrodholbach: hey you know at the sprint how we layed out all the IRC weeks, do you have those?16:30
dholbachthanks Nigel! :)16:30
jcastrowe should probably give those to the -classroom team16:30
dholbachjcastro, no, aren't they in the calendar16:30
dholbach?16:30
jcastrowhich calendar?16:30
akgranerhey jono - you moved the Canonical Manager QA from Ubuntu-meeting to Ubuntu-classroom officially didn't you?16:31
dholbachour team calendar?16:31
* akgraner is blogging and wants to make sure I get it right :-)16:32
jonoakgraner, yep16:32
akgranerk thanks!16:32
jonoyep it will officially be in the usual classroom/classroom-chat combo16:32
nigelbjono: erm, you want he classroom moderated for that right?16:33
nigelb*the16:33
jononigelb, yup16:33
nigelbjono: I'll them to the learning events calender so the bot picks it up16:33
nigelbdo you have like a list?16:34
nigelb(of date, time, person, etc)16:34
akgranernigelb it's robbiew16:34
akgraneron the 11th16:34
nigelbtime?16:34
akgranerat 1730 utc16:34
* nigelb hugs akgraner 16:34
akgranerthanks!16:35
jcastroakgraner: Can you add me to the ubuntu fridge calendar group or whatever?16:36
jcastroI can add the weeks to the calendar now16:36
jcastroakgraner: jorge.castro@canonical.com would be best, that way I can make sure we update the fridge calendar when we update our team calendar16:37
akgranersure one sec I'll add ya16:37
akgranerjcastro, you're added and can make changes to events16:40
akgranerlet me know if there is an issue16:40
jcastrook I added all the IRC workshops16:43
jonothanks nigelb!16:43
jcastronow we're good for the rest of the cyle16:43
nigelbjono: np16:43
nigelbjcastro: thanks /me looks16:43
nigelbdholbach: ok, any more suggestions? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable16:44
nigelb(we have an lp session and a django session pending confirmation)16:44
dholbachnigelb, I'm thinking about it16:44
nigelbRight we need a talk from debian16:44
dholbachI'd love to have some more about how packaging stuff works16:44
dholbachlet me see if I can round up some more folks16:45
nigelb\o/16:45
akgraneris it really time for UDW already wow - where has this cycle gone16:47
nigelbI've been feeling that today16:48
nigelbwhen I started recruting16:48
akgranersorry I couldn't help much this cycle - I sorta miss helping with all the Ubuntu Weeks...next cycle I should be back in the grove :-)16:49
nigelbakgraner: don't worry, I'm trying to help with the weeks as much as I can.  We can never replace you of course :)16:49
nigelbI feel guilty making dholbach and jcastro do all the work ;)16:49
jcastrovish: moderation is hard work! Why would I want to do that!16:53
vishha! ;p16:54
akgranernigelb, /me blushes :-)17:05
nigelb:)17:05
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jcastro<-- lunching17:46
cjohnstonjcastro: I'm trying to get that merge pushed17:50
* Technoviking facepalms as hard as I can 18:03
jonojcastro, any idea when the app place is going to work?18:14
jcastrono clue, I can find out and put it in the report18:15
macoapp place?18:16
jcastrothe thing with the applications in it18:17
jcastromaco: this thing basically: http://lh5.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TUcry28mQcI/AAAAAAAAC0I/ZtmhXlspVgE/s400/ubuntu_unity_places-applications.png18:21
jcastrojono: DBO did tell me earlier that they're gonna put a corner grippie on it18:21
macojcastro: launcher?18:21
jcastroso you'll be able to adjust it, etc.18:21
jcastrono, the launcher is the thing on the left18:21
akgranerDid you see in the 2010 LinuxQuestions.org Member awards Ubuntu was voted desktop of the year :-)18:22
akgranerhttp://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/News/2010-LinuxQuestions.org-Members-Choice-Award-Winners18:22
dholbachok my friends - dinner time - see you tomorrow18:22
* AlanBell wonders what it was he thought about earlier and was going to mention to jono18:27
PendulumAlanBell: u4a?18:28
AlanBellwasn't that18:28
AlanBellbut probably should do that too18:28
jonoAlanBell, :-)18:29
AlanBellit was this  http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/where-are-we/ jono as an ex-pat and probable owner of an electric kettle you qualify to place a pin on the new map18:29
jonoAlanBell, that's cool! and yes, I do have a kettle :-)18:30
jonoor a teapot as they call it over here18:30
AlanBellthough so!18:30
AlanBelland we are kicking off the ubuntu for all project18:31
* popey cuddles jono 18:31
AlanBellI created #ubuntu-for-all and I will call a meeting in -meeting fairly soon18:31
* jono snuggles up to popey18:32
Pendulumjono: an electric kettle is not a teapot18:32
* jono sings "just the two of us...we can make it if we try..."18:32
Pendulumat least even not in my area18:32
macojono: wait arent teapot and kettle two different things? heat the water in the kettle, steep the tea in the teapot...18:32
* AlanBell likes jono's new singing repertoire18:33
Pendulummaco: that's my understanding as well18:33
macoPendulum: maybe americans who arent hoping to move the UK dont know this?18:33
Pendulummaco: I've never called any sort of kettle a teapot.18:34
jonoPendulum, that's what people call them over here18:34
jonomaco, I know18:34
Pendulumpeople on the West Coast are weird18:34
Pendulum(at least the people you know, then)18:34
jonoPendulum, so racist :-)18:34
jonolol18:34
Pici:O18:34
PendulumI'm not sure how saying "the West Coast" is racist18:35
macoPendulum: i was including you in the set of UK-wistful americans :P18:35
Pendulummaco: I know. My point was that I knew it that way long before I was uk-wistful18:35
jonoPendulum, I was kidding :-)18:35
macoi think there was a point where i called them both "teapot," but i think my age only required one digit at that time18:35
Pendulumjono: tbh, I don't think calling someone racist is a joking thing18:36
AlanBellit is the people in flyover land that are the wierd ones, the people at the edges are fine18:36
duanedesignjono: hello. i left you a message the other night. Was not sure if i caught you or not.:)18:36
TechnovikingI love our community, really I do:)18:37
jonoPendulum, erm, it was a joke that you made a reference to people in a geographic region being weird, I was inferring that the geographic nature of your comment was racist, when it wasnt, hence the joke18:37
jonoduanedesign, I don't remember18:37
jonowhat did you say?18:38
duanedesignjono: i really liked your making ubuntu more personal blog post.18:38
jonoduanedesign, oh, thanks! :-)18:38
Pendulumjono: and I don't think it's ever appropriate to call someone a racist as a joke. Maybe not in your area, but where I come from that's a pretty serious accusation18:38
jonoPendulum, you are reading too much into this18:38
jonoI wasnt calling you racist18:38
* AlanBell hugs Pendulum and jono 18:38
duanedesignjono: I think that is something the Beginners Team is good at. I am interested in looking into ways the Beginners Team can encourage more mentoring.18:39
jonoduanedesign, cool :-)18:39
jonoduanedesign, we should hop on the phone and discuss this more at some point18:39
duanedesignsounds great18:39
jonoI still feel I need to learn more about the beginners team18:39
PiciIRC isn't always the best place for those sort of 'jokes', its hard to convey tone and facial expression in a text based medium.18:39
jonomaybe next week?18:39
duanedesignjono: that would be good18:40
jonoPici, I would have thought Pendulum would know me by now :-)18:40
duanedesignjono: looking forward to it18:40
jonohence me making the gag with Pendulum and not a random stranger18:40
jonoduanedesign, cool :-)18:40
Pendulumjono: I know you. I was pointing out that the term is not one I would consider ever being something jokeable. Especially in an Ubuntu channel18:40
jonoPendulum, apologies18:41
Pendulumjono: accepted18:41
Piciyay. group hug.18:41
* Pendulum hugs jono 18:41
* jono hugs Pendulum18:42
jcastropleia2: ping a ling18:45
pleia2jcastro: pong18:45
jcastropleia2: just FYI I added the IRC workshops to the fridge calendar18:45
pleia2jcastro: oh, I still need to add those to the classroom calendar18:45
jcastrohah that was going to be my next question, is there a classroom calendar18:46
pleia2copying them from fridge makes this easier, thanks :)18:46
nigelbjcastro: there is a learning events calender18:46
nigelbjcastro: you have access :p18:46
* jcastro handwaves if we have a calendar proliferation problem18:46
pleia2yeah, it's at the bottom here: http://ubuntu-news.org/calendars/18:46
dpmok, calling it a day18:56
dpmsee you all tomorrow!18:56
jcastrojono: are you in natty?19:20
jonojcastro, yup19:24
jonobut a few days old, I have frozen this install for the dev testing19:24
jcastroah nm then19:24
jcastroif you want to update you might want to check out tbird. :D :D19:24
jcastropost testing that is19:25
jonoTB?19:27
jonoin the archive?19:27
jcastroyeah, appmenu landed19:27
jcastroyup19:27
jononice!19:27
jonohow does it work?19:27
jcastromake sure thunderbird-globalmenu is installed and you're money19:27
jcastroI just tried it, works fine19:27
jonosweet19:27
jonocool19:38
Milosshhello folks. I was super excited I saw ubuntu once more on FOSDEM. Your booth rocked!19:41
jonoMilossh, I am not sure who run it, but thanks for the kind words!19:45
Milosshjono: I think belgium community19:45
jono:-)19:45
MilosshI bought a t-shirt too, it's awesome19:45
Milosshjust kinda longish :)19:45
jono:-)19:50
jcastroScottL: dude, nice use of antidisestablishmentarianism20:08
jcastro+120:08
jcastro<-- caffeine refill20:23
jcastropaultag: stay out of trouble20:23
JanCMilossh: thanks ☺20:51
Milosshasci smile on xchat20:51
Milosshnow, isn't that just hearthbreaking?20:52
Milossh:)20:52
JanCand I ran the booth (with the help of several other people of course)20:52
MilosshJanC: I was the one who bought the last small t-shirt20:52
Milosshmozilla guy20:53
JanCI don't remember, so probably was somebody else behind the table at that moment20:53
JanCpeople helping were from ubuntu-be & ubuntu-fr20:53
Milosshprobably :)20:54
JanCthanks for buying a t-shirt BTW  ;)20:55
Milosshhehe20:57
Milosshthanks for making them available to us20:57
Milossh:)20:57
JanCwell, I'm most happy most of the leftover t-shirts from previous year(s) are gone now20:58
JanCthem all having the old logo etc.21:00
JanCMilossh: if you have ideas to make the booth even better, let me know21:02
MilosshI do actually, but that would require a bit more resources, and a bit more strict organization21:02
Milosshso I'm not sure if you're guys are actually in for that21:03
MilosshWe tried something new on mozilla stand this year, and it was pretty good.21:03
Milossh(btw, I managed mozilla's booth)21:03
Milosshand my boss william, too21:04
JanCI'm open for all suggestions...  ☺21:06
JanCwhat resources are you talking about?21:06
MilosshI'd rather send an email21:06
Milosshif that's ok with you21:06
Milosshkinda busy right now21:06
JanCsee PM for mail address21:07
paultagjcastro: not a chance, dude21:14
scott-workjcastro: lol, thanks23:04

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