[00:57] akgraner: howdy, friendo [00:57] paultag, hey! [00:57] how are ya - have you recovered? [00:57] :-) [00:57] akgraner: mostly :) [00:57] akgraner: have a minute? [00:57] yeppers [03:11] good morning :) [03:11] JFo - looks like the videos were on my phone [03:11] pete is going to see if he can pull them off - but right now - I am not seeing a way to..:-( [03:13] akgraner: You can't send them via bluetooth? [03:14] the phone is bricked [03:14] it won't boot [03:14] samsung update screwed it up this morning - it won't go into the boot loader now [03:15] I think the data is safe but I can't seem to get to it at the moment [03:16] I am getting a new phone from T-mobile this week I have all the info on the SD card but the info that was stored on the phone is another story :-( so sad [03:18] :( [03:19] I know right :-/ if you have the Samsung Galaxy S don't use the Samsung upgrade wait for the the t-mobile over the air one [03:21] But on a goof note - I submitted my OSCON talk :-) nothing like waiting til the last minute - Whew! [03:26] ooooooh, on today's google doodle, if you move down, you can see narwhals! [03:26] WIN [03:32] akgraner, :-( [03:33] JFo I know..but can't dwell on it - just moving on as there is nothing to see here... [06:57] good morning all [06:57] morning dpm :) [07:06] hey dholbach :) [07:06] good morning [07:06] hey nigelb [07:06] (for the first time, before he wishes) [07:06] ;) [07:08] good morning nigelb [07:08] morgen dholbach [07:08] hola dpm [07:09] ¿qué tal? [07:09] bé, bé, gràcies :) i tu? [07:10] muy bien, gracias :) [07:10] :) [07:10] dpm, you're trying to confuse me! :) [07:10] life would be boring otherwise! [07:11] I should try to reply Austrian the next time [07:11] although they have their own country :-P [07:11] I guess that was mean ;-) [07:12] it's just a matter of time until we conquer Europe [07:14] lol [07:17] why is my ssh session not utf8? :( [07:18] sorry, I think I switched the wrong bit [08:03] Morning [08:03] hey kim0 [08:03] dholbach: hey man [08:03] hola kim0, ara :) [08:03] nigelb: howdy [08:04] morning nigelb, kim0 [08:04] ara: morning o/ [08:07] JFo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0hfg1htnM4 [08:16] is that a soothing lullaby? [08:16] not _quite_ [08:17] Not exactly. [08:17] I think it's some old fart claiming that music was good back in his day :)( [08:19] hah [08:20] popey: Everything was better back in my dad. [08:21] day* [08:21] they don't make typos like they used to [08:21] The music from the Spice girls and S-Club7 just can't be beaten with the likes of modern sell-outs. [10:18] morning friends [10:22] morning duanedesign [10:23] hello :) [10:23] fixing to get more snow :\ [10:24] yesterday was the first day in a week that everything was open from the last storm [10:24] i hope we get far less then anticipated [12:36] I want to search all the members of the Beginners Team and find who is also a member of Bug Control. Is there a script that exists that does something like this? [12:44] duanedesign, nigelb is working on a similar script for loco teams and the developer team [12:44] I think it's almost finished [12:46] thank you [12:55] the google logo today is pretty cool. [12:55] duanedesign: I should post it in a couple of days :) [12:56] duanedesign: I hate querying lp. takes 5 minutes to test one change :p [12:57] oh cool thank you nigelb [12:58] nigelb, I organised a few people for UDW [12:59] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable - there's still a couple of empty slots [13:29] * kim0 away -all → Dentist appointment [13:57] buenas mornings! [13:57] YO! [13:57] ohh [13:57] * czajkowski hugs jcastro [13:57] ALOHA! [13:59] howdy [14:00] ▞▀▖▌ ▞▀▖▌ ▌▞▀▖ [14:00] ▙▄▌▌ ▌ ▌▙▄▌▙▄▌ [14:00] ▌ ▌▌ ▌ ▌▌ ▌▌ ▌ [14:00] ▘ ▘▀▀▘▝▀ ▘ ▘▘ ▘ [14:00] that's ye all done :) [14:01] :) [14:20] morning all [14:33] dholbach: super [14:33] dholbach: let me see if I can fill the rest up ;) [14:58] jcastro: whenever someone asks about why we are not updating gnome, i tell them that there is not much manpower to handle both unity and gnome this cycle . for which i get flamed that a new UI is more work and that manpower is less is not a valid argument.. :s how are you handling these questions? [14:58] ie, what can I answer better? :D [15:01] i just eventually give up and say, "I'm just the messenger" :) [15:01] well, I send them to this [15:01] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2011-January/002740.html [15:01] and then tell them we can't update to gnome3 AND deliver GNOME2 as a fallback [15:01] it's either one of the other [15:01] yea.. thats my fave bookmark [15:01] hehe [15:02] and if they think it's easy then they can join the team and show everyone how easy it is [15:02] :) [15:02] ditto for "why not make another ISO" [15:02] yea! [15:02] or "where is gnomebuntu" [15:02] or "why doesn't the ppa work yet" [15:02] Note to self: Never argue with jcastro. [15:02] ;) [15:04] jcastro: hey, is it possible to schedule one of those Q and A sessions we had lately during UDW? [15:04] Those are Cannonifolk, so I'm not so sure abuot barging in and asking them [15:04] yeah [15:04] basically the same thing jason and I did for userdays we can do again for UDW [15:04] except for developers [15:06] nigelb: just ask them, UDW is a community event [15:07] jcastro: okay :) [15:33] jcastro, have those QA been moved officially to ubuntu-classroom and ubuntu-classroom-chat [15:35] I am working on a blog post and wanted to make sure I got the information on where to send people to listed correctly - jcastro - I'm only asking you b/c well you are da man with all the answers :-D [15:35] it's a normal UDW event [15:35] so yeah, awesome by default [15:36] I was asking b/c of lasts weeks -meeting debacle for the kernel QA [15:36] and Robbie is up next on the schedule for the 11th [15:37] so sorry wasn't asking about the UDW events but the Canonical QA stuffs :-) [15:37] hmm, would taking a "Taking bite out of Unity" be a good title for jcastro's session.. ;) [15:38] vish: ooh, changing. [15:38] dholbach, did you see the email I cc'd you on for Ubuntu Development? I'm getting more and more "How can I get started questions" so I think I got all the links right. [15:55] haha, I keep recruiting people for UDW and I end up taking a session ;) [16:04] akgraner: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2011-February/028700.html [16:04] bah [16:05] akgraner: https://twitter.com/#!/ArmyWives/statuses/35005656062898176 [16:05] czajkowski, looking now [16:06] sweet! [16:06] :D [16:25] ooh! nice to see jcastro dint nominate himself for the askubuntu mods.. :) its like giving others chance to shine :) [16:26] i'm like where can i vote for jcastro !! and ah! he aint here.. [16:27] vish: where do we vote? [16:27] http://askubuntu.com/election/1?tab=election [16:27] thanks [16:28] 17.k repution? wow [16:29] akgraner, thanks a lot [16:29] dholbach: I may have increased the size of your inbox by 2, but the schedule looks fuller now [16:30] dholbach: hey you know at the sprint how we layed out all the IRC weeks, do you have those? [16:30] thanks Nigel! :) [16:30] we should probably give those to the -classroom team [16:30] jcastro, no, aren't they in the calendar [16:30] ? [16:30] which calendar? [16:31] hey jono - you moved the Canonical Manager QA from Ubuntu-meeting to Ubuntu-classroom officially didn't you? [16:31] our team calendar? [16:32] * akgraner is blogging and wants to make sure I get it right :-) [16:32] akgraner, yep [16:32] k thanks! [16:32] yep it will officially be in the usual classroom/classroom-chat combo [16:33] jono: erm, you want he classroom moderated for that right? [16:33] *the [16:33] nigelb, yup [16:33] jono: I'll them to the learning events calender so the bot picks it up [16:34] do you have like a list? [16:34] (of date, time, person, etc) [16:34] nigelb it's robbiew [16:34] on the 11th [16:34] time? [16:34] at 1730 utc [16:34] * nigelb hugs akgraner [16:35] thanks! [16:36] akgraner: Can you add me to the ubuntu fridge calendar group or whatever? [16:36] I can add the weeks to the calendar now [16:37] akgraner: jorge.castro@canonical.com would be best, that way I can make sure we update the fridge calendar when we update our team calendar [16:37] sure one sec I'll add ya [16:40] jcastro, you're added and can make changes to events [16:40] let me know if there is an issue [16:43] ok I added all the IRC workshops [16:43] thanks nigelb! [16:43] now we're good for the rest of the cyle [16:43] jono: np [16:43] jcastro: thanks /me looks [16:44] dholbach: ok, any more suggestions? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable [16:44] (we have an lp session and a django session pending confirmation) [16:44] nigelb, I'm thinking about it [16:44] Right we need a talk from debian [16:44] I'd love to have some more about how packaging stuff works [16:45] let me see if I can round up some more folks [16:45] \o/ [16:47] is it really time for UDW already wow - where has this cycle gone [16:48] I've been feeling that today [16:48] when I started recruting [16:49] sorry I couldn't help much this cycle - I sorta miss helping with all the Ubuntu Weeks...next cycle I should be back in the grove :-) [16:49] akgraner: don't worry, I'm trying to help with the weeks as much as I can. We can never replace you of course :) [16:49] I feel guilty making dholbach and jcastro do all the work ;) [16:53] vish: moderation is hard work! Why would I want to do that! [16:54] ha! ;p [17:05] nigelb, /me blushes :-) [17:05] :) === dpm_ is now known as dpm [17:46] <-- lunching [17:50] jcastro: I'm trying to get that merge pushed [18:03] * Technoviking facepalms as hard as I can [18:14] jcastro, any idea when the app place is going to work? [18:15] no clue, I can find out and put it in the report [18:16] app place? [18:17] the thing with the applications in it [18:21] maco: this thing basically: http://lh5.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TUcry28mQcI/AAAAAAAAC0I/ZtmhXlspVgE/s400/ubuntu_unity_places-applications.png [18:21] jono: DBO did tell me earlier that they're gonna put a corner grippie on it [18:21] jcastro: launcher? [18:21] so you'll be able to adjust it, etc. [18:21] no, the launcher is the thing on the left [18:22] Did you see in the 2010 LinuxQuestions.org Member awards Ubuntu was voted desktop of the year :-) [18:22] http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/News/2010-LinuxQuestions.org-Members-Choice-Award-Winners [18:22] ok my friends - dinner time - see you tomorrow [18:27] * AlanBell wonders what it was he thought about earlier and was going to mention to jono [18:28] AlanBell: u4a? [18:28] wasn't that [18:28] but probably should do that too [18:29] AlanBell, :-) [18:29] it was this http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/where-are-we/ jono as an ex-pat and probable owner of an electric kettle you qualify to place a pin on the new map [18:30] AlanBell, that's cool! and yes, I do have a kettle :-) [18:30] or a teapot as they call it over here [18:30] though so! [18:31] and we are kicking off the ubuntu for all project [18:31] * popey cuddles jono [18:31] I created #ubuntu-for-all and I will call a meeting in -meeting fairly soon [18:32] * jono snuggles up to popey [18:32] jono: an electric kettle is not a teapot [18:32] * jono sings "just the two of us...we can make it if we try..." [18:32] at least even not in my area [18:32] jono: wait arent teapot and kettle two different things? heat the water in the kettle, steep the tea in the teapot... [18:33] * AlanBell likes jono's new singing repertoire [18:33] maco: that's my understanding as well [18:33] Pendulum: maybe americans who arent hoping to move the UK dont know this? [18:34] maco: I've never called any sort of kettle a teapot. [18:34] Pendulum, that's what people call them over here [18:34] maco, I know [18:34] people on the West Coast are weird [18:34] (at least the people you know, then) [18:34] Pendulum, so racist :-) [18:34] lol [18:34] :O [18:35] I'm not sure how saying "the West Coast" is racist [18:35] Pendulum: i was including you in the set of UK-wistful americans :P [18:35] maco: I know. My point was that I knew it that way long before I was uk-wistful [18:35] Pendulum, I was kidding :-) [18:35] i think there was a point where i called them both "teapot," but i think my age only required one digit at that time [18:36] jono: tbh, I don't think calling someone racist is a joking thing [18:36] it is the people in flyover land that are the wierd ones, the people at the edges are fine [18:36] jono: hello. i left you a message the other night. Was not sure if i caught you or not.:) [18:37] I love our community, really I do:) [18:37] Pendulum, erm, it was a joke that you made a reference to people in a geographic region being weird, I was inferring that the geographic nature of your comment was racist, when it wasnt, hence the joke [18:37] duanedesign, I don't remember [18:38] what did you say? [18:38] jono: i really liked your making ubuntu more personal blog post. [18:38] duanedesign, oh, thanks! :-) [18:38] jono: and I don't think it's ever appropriate to call someone a racist as a joke. Maybe not in your area, but where I come from that's a pretty serious accusation [18:38] Pendulum, you are reading too much into this [18:38] I wasnt calling you racist [18:38] * AlanBell hugs Pendulum and jono [18:39] jono: I think that is something the Beginners Team is good at. I am interested in looking into ways the Beginners Team can encourage more mentoring. [18:39] duanedesign, cool :-) [18:39] duanedesign, we should hop on the phone and discuss this more at some point [18:39] sounds great [18:39] I still feel I need to learn more about the beginners team [18:39] IRC isn't always the best place for those sort of 'jokes', its hard to convey tone and facial expression in a text based medium. [18:39] maybe next week? [18:40] jono: that would be good [18:40] Pici, I would have thought Pendulum would know me by now :-) [18:40] jono: looking forward to it [18:40] hence me making the gag with Pendulum and not a random stranger [18:40] duanedesign, cool :-) [18:40] jono: I know you. I was pointing out that the term is not one I would consider ever being something jokeable. Especially in an Ubuntu channel [18:41] Pendulum, apologies [18:41] jono: accepted [18:41] yay. group hug. [18:41] * Pendulum hugs jono [18:42] * jono hugs Pendulum [18:45] pleia2: ping a ling [18:45] jcastro: pong [18:45] pleia2: just FYI I added the IRC workshops to the fridge calendar [18:45] jcastro: oh, I still need to add those to the classroom calendar [18:46] hah that was going to be my next question, is there a classroom calendar [18:46] copying them from fridge makes this easier, thanks :) [18:46] jcastro: there is a learning events calender [18:46] jcastro: you have access :p [18:46] * jcastro handwaves if we have a calendar proliferation problem [18:46] yeah, it's at the bottom here: http://ubuntu-news.org/calendars/ [18:56] ok, calling it a day [18:56] see you all tomorrow! [19:20] jono: are you in natty? [19:24] jcastro, yup [19:24] but a few days old, I have frozen this install for the dev testing [19:24] ah nm then [19:24] if you want to update you might want to check out tbird. :D :D [19:25] post testing that is [19:27] TB? [19:27] in the archive? [19:27] yeah, appmenu landed [19:27] yup [19:27] nice! [19:27] how does it work? [19:27] make sure thunderbird-globalmenu is installed and you're money [19:27] I just tried it, works fine [19:27] sweet [19:38] cool [19:41] hello folks. I was super excited I saw ubuntu once more on FOSDEM. Your booth rocked! [19:45] Milossh, I am not sure who run it, but thanks for the kind words! [19:45] jono: I think belgium community [19:45] :-) [19:45] I bought a t-shirt too, it's awesome [19:45] just kinda longish :) [19:50] :-) [20:08] ScottL: dude, nice use of antidisestablishmentarianism [20:08] +1 [20:23] <-- caffeine refill [20:23] paultag: stay out of trouble [20:51] Milossh: thanks ☺ [20:51] asci smile on xchat [20:52] now, isn't that just hearthbreaking? [20:52] :) [20:52] and I ran the booth (with the help of several other people of course) [20:52] JanC: I was the one who bought the last small t-shirt [20:53] mozilla guy [20:53] I don't remember, so probably was somebody else behind the table at that moment [20:53] people helping were from ubuntu-be & ubuntu-fr [20:54] probably :) [20:55] thanks for buying a t-shirt BTW ;) [20:57] hehe [20:57] thanks for making them available to us [20:57] :) [20:58] well, I'm most happy most of the leftover t-shirts from previous year(s) are gone now [21:00] them all having the old logo etc. [21:02] Milossh: if you have ideas to make the booth even better, let me know [21:02] I do actually, but that would require a bit more resources, and a bit more strict organization [21:03] so I'm not sure if you're guys are actually in for that [21:03] We tried something new on mozilla stand this year, and it was pretty good. [21:03] (btw, I managed mozilla's booth) [21:04] and my boss william, too [21:06] I'm open for all suggestions... ☺ [21:06] what resources are you talking about? [21:06] I'd rather send an email [21:06] if that's ok with you [21:06] kinda busy right now [21:07] see PM for mail address [21:14] jcastro: not a chance, dude [23:04] jcastro: lol, thanks