[07:04] <YoBoY> bonjour
[07:04] <nigelb> morning YoBoY 
[07:04] <YoBoY> hi nigelb 
[07:06] <dholbach> good morning
[07:17] <YoBoY> moin dholbach 
[07:18] <dholbach> salut YoBoY
[12:53] <mhall119> morning dholbach and YoBoY 
[12:54] <mhall119> and nigelb 
[12:54] <dholbach> hey mhall119
[12:54] <nigelb> dholbach: yhey
[12:55] <nigelb> erm
[12:55] <nigelb> morning mhall119 
[12:58] <Ronnie> morning mhall119
[12:58] <Ronnie> hey nigelb, any progress on the loco map style?
[13:27] <Randomburger> hy
[14:22] <YoBoY> hi mhall119 
[14:32] <nigelb> Ronnie: hey, didn't get time
[14:32] <nigelb> probably today or tomorow
[16:05] <cjohnston> Daviey: ping
[16:06] <nigelb> cjohnston: meeting.
[16:06] <Daviey> cjohnston, o/
[16:06]  * Daviey is multitask king
[16:06] <cjohnston> who what meeting? huh
[16:06] <cjohnston> lol
[16:06] <nigelb> right, he multi-tasks
[16:06] <czajkowski> Daviey: really... since when 
[16:07]  * mhall119 needs a better to-do list program
[16:08] <cjohnston> gotcha.. Daviey can you try to review my merge for turning off the sponsorship app prior to the 'sponsorship' period.. it seems like people are applying
[16:08] <Daviey> czajkowski, meanie!
[16:09] <Daviey> cjohnston, ahh..  will do
[16:09] <czajkowski> Daviey: says the person who glares! 
[16:09] <Daviey> add it to mhall119's todo list.. :)
[16:09] <mhall119> :P
[16:09] <nigelb> no no
[16:09] <nigelb> no one touches mhall119's summit list before he fishes reviewing my merge :-P
[16:10] <Daviey> hah
[16:10] <nigelb> *finishes
[16:10]  * mhall119 needs a much better to do list program
[16:11] <cjohnston> me too mhall119 
[16:11]  * nigelb offs to build it
[16:11] <nigelb> offers
[16:12] <mhall119> I'm making plans to build one, actually
[16:12] <mhall119> it's on my to-do list ;)
[16:12] <mhall119> and it'll be in Django of course
[16:12] <czajkowski> to do list - tomboy notes
[16:12] <cjohnston> just improve gtg
[16:12] <czajkowski> cross out each item as it's done 
[16:12] <czajkowski> and make new list 
[16:12] <czajkowski> date them 
[16:12] <czajkowski> DONE 
[16:12] <mhall119> cjohnston: I plan on making mine a backend for GTG
[16:13] <cjohnston> gotcha
[16:13] <cjohnston> improve gtg first
[16:13] <mhall119> czajkowski: you'd probably like GTG then, it's a lot like Tomboy interface wise, but better suited for tasks
[16:13] <czajkowski> GTG ?
[16:13] <cjohnston> getting thigns GNOME
[16:13] <cjohnston> !
[16:14] <Daviey> mhall119, i started one last year... but it was crappy.
[16:18] <czajkowski> cjohnston: how do I install it ?
[16:18] <cjohnston> apt-get install gtg
[16:20] <mhall119> Daviey: I have a list of features I want
[16:32] <Daviey> mhall119, happy to help
[16:33] <Daviey> mhall119, start writing.. i'll help
[16:34] <nigelb> o/
[16:34]  * nigelb too
[17:12] <mhall119> I'll be sure to let you guys know
[17:13] <mhall119> Daviey: nigelb: cjohnston: Here's my desired features list so far: http://paste.ubuntu.com/564556/
[17:28] <Daviey> mhall119, nice.... create a LP project.. and turn all the features into bugs or blueprints :)
[17:31]  * mhall119 needs a name
[17:43] <cjohnston> google apps auth mhall119 
[17:43] <cjohnston> or ig uess google auth
[17:45] <mhall119> personally I want to do client-side SSL cert auth
[17:46] <mhall119> it'll probably start off as local account only
[17:46] <mhall119> maybe openid
[17:46] <Ronnie> cjohnston, mhall119: im trying to implement this into LD so users do not have to leave the LD page when joining a team, changing mugshot etc: https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib#Authenticated%20access%20for%20website%20integration
[17:46] <Ronnie> could this be usefull?
[17:47] <mhall119> they'd still need to have an SSO account and LP profile
[17:48] <Ronnie> mhall119: true
[17:48] <Ronnie> the SSO can be trough login.ubuntu.com
[17:48] <mhall119> I like the idea, but it wouldn't resolve the complaint about having to have an LP profile
[17:48] <Ronnie> for the LP profile i have not yet an solution
[17:48] <Ronnie> still thinking about it
[17:48] <mhall119> :)
[17:49] <cjohnston> i dont believe there is anything yet... unless we could make a form that when you click ok it goes to the create lp account page, inputs the info in the correct spot, then hit submit and it goes back to our page 
[17:50] <cjohnston> just explain in translated terms what is going to happen
[17:50] <cjohnston> would something like that be possible?
[17:50] <mhall119> we can put a page up before we re-direct for login explaining what's going on
[17:50] <mhall119> which would be helpful the first time someone logs in, and annoying every time after that
[17:50] <Ronnie> if you have an openid account created on login.ubuntu.com how much steps would it take to create a LP account
[17:50] <cjohnston> cookie?
[17:51] <cjohnston> no idea
[17:51] <cjohnston> but it could just create the lp account with the lp.net openid
[17:51] <cjohnston> no?
[17:51] <mhall119> cookie wouldn't help, because until they log in, we won't have a way of knowing if they've logged in before
[17:52] <mhall119> if they don't have an LP account, the openid doesn't give us a username
[17:52] <cjohnston> right.. but when you do login, create a cookie so that we know for the future
[17:52] <mhall119> and when you log out, leave the cookie?
[17:52] <cjohnston> ya
[17:52] <mhall119> doesn't seem right
[17:52] <cjohnston> its just a cookie saying this computer has been here
[17:52] <cjohnston> before
[17:52] <mhall119> the proper solution would be for SSO and LP to be properly translated and informative
[17:52] <cjohnston> if cookie that says "hi" exists, dont show login message
[17:53] <cjohnston> good luck mhall119 
[17:53] <cjohnston> :-P
[17:53] <mhall119> yeah, I know
[17:54] <Ronnie> how much steps are needed to create an LP account?
[17:54] <Ronnie> 1. Fill in the email,password from the openid
[17:54] <Ronnie> 2. ?
[17:54] <mhall119> I'm not sure, at least providing a username in addition to the above
[17:54] <Ronnie> ill ask the lp-devs
[17:59] <cjohnston> mhall119: it also needs to be able to sync to android devices
[18:00] <mhall119> cjohnston: right, that'll use the JSON services
[18:36] <Ronnie> mhall119, cjohnston: good news
[18:36] <Ronnie> the account creation can be trough login.ubuntu.com
[18:36] <Ronnie> these supports several languages
[18:36] <Ronnie> i tested german
[18:37] <Ronnie> when that process was done, i could use the email+pass to login to launchpad.net without adding additional info
[18:37] <Ronnie> i only needed to sign into lp with the openid created on login.ubuntu.com
[18:38] <mhall119> what if they don't have a launchpad.net profile?
[18:38] <Ronnie> the launchpad profile is created at first login
[18:38] <mhall119> will is prompt them to provide a username?
[18:38] <Ronnie> no, thats part of the openid registration process
[18:39] <Ronnie> hmm thats the full name ic
[18:39] <mhall119> oh, I thought you just needed an email address and password to register with SSO
[18:39] <Ronnie> the username is the first part of the email
[18:40] <mhall119> ok
[18:40] <Ronnie> mhall119: you can test here: https://login.staging.ubuntu.com/
[18:40] <Ronnie> username can be changed with launchapdlib
[18:40] <Ronnie> the staging site refreshed the db each 24 hours
[18:41] <Ronnie> login to LP can here: https://staging.launchpad.net/
[18:43] <mhall119> Ronnie: unfortunately I don't have time right now to try it all out
[18:44] <cjohnston> Ronnie: when i click applications on staging.ubuntu.com it says Exception Value: column oauth_consumer.user_id does not exist
[18:44] <cjohnston> LINE 1: SELECT "oauth_consumer"."id", "oauth_consumer"."user_id", "o...
[18:44] <mhall119> if you think you can make it work, implement in then we'll test it
[18:45] <Ronnie> cjohnston: i just got to know that staging.ubuntu.com is partly broken, because of a db change
[18:45] <Ronnie> cjohnston: see #launchpad-dev
[18:45] <Ronnie> mhall119: ill try to make a branch which uses stagning to test the method
[20:58] <mhall119> czajkowski: I can't help but notice that the next Ubuntu-ie IRC meeting isn't using the LD Meetings feature :(
[20:59] <czajkowski> mhall119: we only just annouved the meeting today 
[20:59] <czajkowski> ask the team why they're not using it...
[20:59] <czajkowski> not me who schedules it 
[20:59] <cjohnston> you can put it on the LD tho
[20:59] <cjohnston> :-P
[21:00] <mhall119> czajkowski: they probably created it before we released 
[21:00] <mhall119> it's using an Event record right now
[21:00] <czajkowski> cjohnston: I can but I try and not interfer in how the team is run tbh 
[21:00] <mhall119> I believe I said something to ebel already about moving it
[21:00] <czajkowski> seeing as I dont live there nay more 
[21:02]  * mhall119 looks in #ubuntu-ie
[21:02] <mhall119> nope, no ebel
[21:03] <czajkowski> he doesnt run a screen 
[21:03] <mhall119> poor guy
[21:03] <czajkowski> not really
[21:03] <czajkowski> busy at work 
[21:03] <mhall119> I was joking
[21:03] <czajkowski> no smiley....
[21:03] <mhall119> I emoted on the inside
[21:05] <czajkowski> doesnt irc very well :)
[21:44] <Ronnie> cjohnston, YoBoY, mhall119: the first steps for the user authentication for changing user details (teams, mugshot etc) : https://code.launchpad.net/~ronnie.vd.c/loco-directory/ld-lp-link
[21:44] <Ronnie> im counting the steps for a totally new user to take, and its still a lot of steps
[21:44] <Ronnie> ill put them on paste in a moment
[22:00] <Ronnie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/564709/
[22:13] <YoBoY> Ronnie: seems complicated ^^" and not only for the foreign users
[22:14] <Ronnie> YoBoY: it is maybe getting easier (currently talking in #launchpad-dev)
[22:14] <Ronnie> but if a user has already an ubuntu-one account of other ubuntu-sso account it will be way easier
[22:15] <YoBoY> great :)
[22:15] <Ronnie> and login.ubuntu.com is availible in a few different languages
[22:15] <Ronnie> adding more languages shouldn't be that hard then
[22:18] <Ronnie> YoBoY: if i should write down the steps (and the amount of english-only pages) that need to be taken now, to do the same. the list will be even longer ;)
[22:19] <YoBoY> ^^
[22:23] <YoBoY> I think some parts of the LD could be more "open", like the comments, or the registration for the events, taking only a nickname and an email, 
[22:30] <Ronnie> the sso account will be used in more and more applications: https://help.launchpad.net/API/ThirdPartyIntegration#Desktop%20integration%20%28Natty%20Narwhal%20and%20later%29 (so having an SSO account shouldn't be a big deal)
[22:37] <YoBoY> if we can create one on the desktop (ubuntu one ?) and use it everywhere after that, yes, it's easier, next step perhaps it's having the control of the profile page also on the desktop :p
[22:46] <Ronnie> YoBoY: technically its already possible to write an app which manages your LP account