=== airtonix_ is now known as airtonix [01:11] New bug: #714932 in squid (main) "package squid 2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/714932 [01:33] I have a DHCP server set to a static ip that keeps using DHCP to assign it's own ip address [01:33] There is no DHCP server that I know of. [01:33] running [01:34] anzenketh: to paraphrase: you have a server. It serves DHCP to the network. Its *own* network configuration *should* be static, but it is trying to use DHCP, and you want to know why. [01:34] anzenketh: is that correct? [01:34] Basicly [01:35] OK, is network-manager (NetworkManager) installed? [01:35] It is a server so it should not be [01:35] No GUI [01:37] Double checked nope network-manager is not installed [01:37] network-manager is a daemon, not a GUI. [01:37] But OK. [01:37] Now, pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces [01:38] http://pastebin.com/U3ib1EcV [01:40] Now pastebin the output of "ip a" [01:41] http://pastebin.com/pqUyVR6A [01:50] I was in here earlier asking about DHCP and why a static ip system was accepting a DHCP address [01:50] I forgot who was working with me. [01:52] Well anyone can really help me I have a DHCP server that should have a static ip set that every one in a while it is taking a dynamic IP address [01:53] http://pastebin.com/pqUyVR6A that is my ip a [01:53] That doesn't really make sense anzenketh [01:53] anzenketh: couple of problems there [01:53] anzenketh: i would first find the rogue DHCP server [01:54] Oh I already know what it is it is a crappy modem/router [01:54] anzenketh: well turn it off [01:54] Can't [01:54] Becouse "It Is" [01:54] anzenketh: why? [01:55] Becouse even though I told it to turn off it is not [01:55] like I said crappy firmware [01:55] anzenketh: unplug it from the network, that should do it (for testing at least) [01:56] Problem is it is also the modem [01:56] anzenketh: (for testing at least) [01:56] anzenketh: do that and see what happens when you restart networking [01:57] Well why is the system which is set to a static ip taking a DHCP address [01:57] anzenketh: i already said "couple of problems there" [01:58] Ok [01:58] You mean over reboots anzenketh? [01:58] Sometimes it's static sometimes not kinda thing or? [02:00] No I mean I have in /etc/network/interfaces it set to static [02:00] But it is not keeping the IP I assigned it [02:01] oh well, i'm gone. good luck [02:02] So it just up and changes while the machine is up? [02:02] Yep [02:02] That shouldn't be possible unless you're restarting networking. [02:02] I am not the server is [02:02] Even so with that interfaces file it shouldn't be asking for an IP to begin with. [02:02] Very very odd. [02:02] How do you know it's changing? [02:03] Becouse messasges is braudcasted to the screen [02:03] What message? [02:04] as0t1: Disabled Privacy Extensions [02:04] Might want to look and or pastebin /var/log/messages [02:04] Might be something useful in there as to what is going on. [02:05] http://pastebin.com/DU5Hs8b0 [02:05] That is what is in messages when the issue happens [02:05] That's an OpenVPN adapter. [02:05] Which makes sence due to I have openvpn installed [02:06] Plot thickens then hehe [02:06] I don't have a lot of experience with it. [02:06] Could openvpn be causing this issue? [02:06] considering the nature of the software I'd say yes. [02:07] Have you configured it at all? [02:07] OpenVpn Yes [02:07] Just basic configuration [02:07] I'd try disabling the service if possible and rebooting. [02:07] See if the issue persists. [02:08] I will try that [02:08] Wish I new more about the repeatablity of the issue [02:08] Well that would be a good start as to narrowing it down ;) [02:10] What is this error message about no IPv6 Routers present? [02:13] Do you need IPv6? [02:13] If [02:13] not disable it. [02:13] Think it's one you can ignore regardless. [02:14] ok [02:14] and no I don't [02:14] anzenketh: I can't see why you're getting a DHCP client on eth1 [02:14] yeah me either. [02:15] I'm taking a stab in the dark that openvpn is doing something funky. [02:15] anzenketh: have you restarted the system since configuring static networking? [02:15] I could be way off. [02:15] anzenketh: it's JUST possible that a stale dhclient is still lying around and causing the strangeness [02:15] the actual computer [02:15] You know I don't know if I have [02:18] Well now time to fight a windows virus issue. [02:18] Thanks for your help will let you know how it goes [04:14] greetings, Got a quick question. I have a 320gb and a 1tb SATA hd that I am going to put server on. How would you set it up. going to have DNS, SAMBA, SSH, and LAMPS. Not sure what else yet but those are what I am thinking about. [04:26] What exactly do you mean? [04:26] How to partition the disks? [04:27] If so I'd probably use the 320 for the OS and maybe homes depending if you needs heaps of storage for user homes. [04:27] what would be the best way to divide up the disks [04:28] The 1TB for data storage [04:28] ok [04:28] 320GB is heaps though. [04:29] Unless you plan on having heaps of user data on there. [04:29] In which case maybe put /home on the 1tb. [04:30] going to set up so that it backs up a couple of laptops and for music storage [04:30] You'll probably want that going to the 1TB then. [04:30] :) [04:32] thanks. was wondering if anyone was watching the channel. was bout ready to go to the ubuntu channel and ask [04:36] No worries. [04:36] Does get quiet in here around this time. [04:39] Hi there everybody [04:39] A user directed me to FreeNAS and Openindiana last time I was here, asking about setting up a network share with windows users [04:39] I now have freenas running on vbox, and i was hoping for a little help getting it to work [04:40] does anybody here want to help with that even though it's not a ubuntu server thing? [04:40] or can somebody direct me to the right irc channel? [04:41] Never used FreeNAS myself sorry. [04:41] I assume it's got a nice web front end for configuring it. [04:42] yeah, i'm sure it does. i'm using it in vbox tho cand can't get to the nice web front [04:42] lol [04:42] what do you use for nas? [04:42] SAMBA / NFS and AFP. [04:42] Samba and NFS off my ubuntu server. [04:43] Network File System = nfs right [04:43] can windows see those shares? [04:43] Nope. [04:43] But it can see Samba share. [04:43] That's what you're after. [04:43] yeah, i've had crappy experience with samba [04:43] Depends. [04:43] I haven't had too many issues with it. [04:44] I wouldn't try and use it as a domain mater though in a Windows environment. [04:44] *master [04:44] what's a domain master [04:45] Keeps tracks of all shares on the network. [04:46] Ender: http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/network_administration_guides/samba_reference_guide/17_NetworkBrowsing_14.html [04:48] Even using freenas you'll be using samba. [04:48] It's the only open option afaik. [04:48] For windows file sharing on non-microsoft OS. [04:49] yeah that's what i thought [04:49] that's what i've heard anyway [04:49] and read [05:01] is it possible to be able to access a GUI on my ubuntu server [05:01] from a different computer [05:01] like with Remote Desktop [05:03] Ender: by default, Ubuntu Server does not have a GUI. We encourage users to administer their servers from the CLI. [05:04] Ender: as X11 is network-transparent, you can install GUI applications on the server and run them individually on your local machine (a la Citrix), or you can install a full desktop on the server, and then use it locally and/or export itover VNC. [05:05] There is an alpha-quality RDP server for Ubuntu/Linux, but I advise you not to bother with it. [05:06] ok [05:07] are vnc and rdp just different protocols to perform this task? [05:07] !vnc [05:07] VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX [05:07] !rdp [05:07] VNC/RFB is a lowest-common-denominator raster damage protocol. [05:08] RDP is a little better, it uses win32 primitives. It's Microsoft's clone of Citrix's architecture. [05:08] X11 is the native drawing system for Unix/Linux/Ubuntu. [05:09] does RDP stand for Raster Damage Protocol? [05:09] X11 is reasonably wire-efficient, but in practice modern GUIs use it mostly for raster painting, meaning that it ends up being slower than VNC (which supports lossy compression) unless you use a compressor like NX. [05:09] RDP = Remote Desktop Protocol [05:09] oic [05:11] so FreeNX is porting the X11 drawing directly [05:11] NeWS is the best design given modern hardware, but unfortunately Sun charged hefty royalties, and when NeXT bought Apple they killed off its network transparency. [05:11] whereas VNC allows X11 to draw it on the host machine, and then ports the visible image to the guest machine? [05:11] Nowadays it's being reinvented by web weenies on top of HTML Forms :-/ [05:11] Ender: right. [05:11] i see. [05:11] Ender: strictly, NX is just compressing the existing X11 drawing operations [05:11] and for now, vnc is kinda the best option [05:12] on non-windows machines [05:12] In a heterogeneous environment, VNC is your only choice [05:12] right? [05:12] oh. [05:12] Because RDP servers on Linux suck, and X11 clients (called "X servers") on Windows sucl [05:12] *suck [05:13] Of course, a CLI will be orders of magnitude faster than even VNC [05:13] right [05:14] i'm comfortable using the cli [05:14] i just wanted to try it [05:14] ok, but to abandon that now [05:14] and instead: [05:15] I'm trying to set up a Samba NAS on a ZFS pool in a heterogenous network environment. I'll need virus scanning for incoming files from windows boxes, and a firewall to block all internet traffic to one of the machines. [05:15] how do you suggest i do that? [05:16] Ender: I have used clamscan package [05:17] Ender: ZFS support on Linux is legally iffy [05:17] yeah, i know. it really upsets me. [05:17] Ender: IMO you are better off using ext4 and migrating to btrfs when it becomes production-ready, or using opensolaris in interim [05:17] i was thinking about using a virutal BSD os to handle the nas [05:18] (Except Oracle killed OpenSolaris.) [05:18] ugh, another upsetting thing. [05:18] Just a reminder not to buy into in proprietary solutions :-) [05:19] seriously!!! [05:19] it's so hard sometimes though, you know [05:19] people use Access to manage their orders, Quickbooks to handle finances, and Outlook for email [05:20] that deer-in-headlights look at the mere mention of a different system, even a FREE system... [05:20] anyway... [05:20] what i want is a software raid [05:20] and my understanding is that zfs incorporates a whole lot of really interesting raid functions by default [05:21] BUT i'm open to other suggestions [05:22] is it possible to get data redundancy in a software raid using Ubuntu Server and ext4? [05:24] Ender: You could use mdadm and whatever raid level you want...and format ext4. [05:24] !mdadm [05:24] twb: eh? opensolaris is opensource, not proprietary, and there's already openindiana to continue from where opensolaris left [05:25] can i run a good antivirus and firewall on openindiana [05:25] i would say that no [05:25] Ender: How many viruses targetting openindiana are you aware of? [05:26] he's doing fileserver with samba (for windows) [05:26] yeah. [05:26] so i need oi to scan for windows viruses [05:26] lol [05:26] i just find that funny [05:26] Ender: freebsd has antivirus, firewall and zfs [05:26] Ender: I use clamscan [05:26] for anti-virus on ubuntu and can be used on any unix os. [05:28] this needs to be a pretty hands-off system that auto-updates virus definitions [05:28] does clamscan have a function like that? [05:28] yes clamscand auto updates virus def [05:29] the package on ubuntu is actually called clamav [05:29] so what's the advantage of using ubuntu server instead of openindiana [05:29] You get suppport in #ubuntu-server :) [05:30] loll [05:30] yeah seriously [05:30] that's a huge factor [05:30] afk 15 [05:30] Ender: This is a support channel for Ubuntu Server, not an advocacy channel. Debate about "which OS is better" does not belong here. [05:35] jmarsden, i didn't mean to violate any rules, i'm just investigating the best way to accomplish my goal. in fact i will stick with ubuntu server and seek support form this channel. [05:36] That's fine... I just had visions of the channel deteriorating into why one OS is "better"... didn't happen, so all is well :) [06:01] ha! nip it in the bud eh [06:01] well done [06:01] ok [06:01] so...i have ubuntu server installed on a p4 system i rescued [06:01] how do i make a samba share [06:02] well first, a software raid [06:02] do i need to instal Server on the software raid? [06:03] Ender: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID [06:03] Is there some compelling reason why I shouldn't use the same public/private SSH keypair on all my computers? That is, the keypair I use to SSH into remote hosts. Or should I generate keys for each machine I use? [06:03] It's easier to do software raid during the install, but if you understand what is going on I am pretty sure you can do it afterwards instead. [06:03] hrm. i don't really understand what is going on. [06:03] so how do i learn? [06:03] just google software raid? [06:03] Ender: I would do it through the gui install...pretty easy to do through that link I sent you. [06:03] tohuw: Keep the private key on ONE host, and keep the public key on all the servers, that's usually fine. [06:05] jmarsden: sorry, i should be more clear. I have three computers I use. I remote into two servers. On this computer, I have a pub/priv keypair so I can ssh into both servers using that. Can I just copy this keypair to the other two client machines I use? [06:05] ok i'll read that website, thanks! [06:07] tohuw: You can put the same private key (you don't need the *pair* on any one computer) on multiple client machines, as long as all are equally secured against theft etc and you have a good passphrase. [06:07] ok [06:08] thats what i thought, thank you [06:08] tohuw: Many people do not put their private key on a laptop/notebook, for example, because there's a higher risk of it being stolen or lost. [06:10] i remote into my servers frequently from my laptops. that being said, they're also relatively secure, and i would revoke my key from everywhere its authorized if I thought it was compromised. such are the risks one takes [06:10] live a little, i say [06:15] do i need the samba packages to be able to READ samba shared or JUST to host them? [06:16] the samba package itself is the server. [06:16] Look at smbfs and smbclient for the client side of things, if I am remembering that right. [06:16] so if i've made a samba share on my server then a default install of ubuntu desktop on another computer in my network should be able to read the samba share with no additional packages? [06:18] smbclient is required on the client. [06:20] new question If I am going to set up a SAMBA server, do I want to set up the mount points off my home directory? like /home/samba [06:20] glenp: its up to you...I usually put them in /mnt/ you can really define them any where in the config file. [06:21] glenp: You can share any part of the Linux filesystem as a samba share... there is a [homes] section in smb.conf that makes it easy to share users home directories consistently if you have a multiuser machine [06:23] please confirm if the default run level for ubuntu is level 2 [06:23] draven_sol: I believe it is 3 [06:24] ok I have a 1tb and a 320gb 320gb is the os and all the stuff. The 1tb was going to be the /home directory and also set that up for samba and backup. Im trying to figure out how to divide the 1tb drive. the only thing that I have not setup is the /home partition [06:24] thesheff17, do you know a command i may run to test what level i'm currently in? [06:26] draven_sol: I see runlevel [06:27] thesheff17, thanks that's what i needed [06:31] glenp: depends if you are having user shares or just a couple shares....you could easily just do /home/samba if you are going to have 1 share. [06:34] I was going to make a share point so that people on the network could do like /home/samba/dir1 thru dir10 [06:58] I am looking to build a Fileserver using 8 2TB Drives and RAID6. Id like to use Ubuntus 10.04 mdadm. Am i better off to buy a good Raid Adapter or is mdadm ok? In addition, id be grateful for any Motherboard recommendations. [07:00] overrider: do you have several sata-bus? [07:00] overrider: it's ok if you put drives to several sata-bus, instead of one or two [07:02] gobbe: im looking to purchase a motherboard with 8 sata ports - or a good raid adapter. [07:03] overrider: raid6 is ok with mdadm, i wouldnt go with raid5 and large sata disks because of huge rebuild-time [07:03] overrider: but your plan sounds reasonable [07:04] gobbe: the question is whether mdadm and possibly lvm etc is more stable or a good raid adapter. [07:05] overrider: i would go with mdadm, separate raid-card is singlepoint of failure === airtonix_ is now known as airtonix === bgupta_ is now known as bgupta [07:27] does mdadm reduce performance === twister004_ is now known as twister004 [07:34] Ender: Compared to what? On most modern CPUs it is no noticeable, but if your CPUs are super busy number crunching you might notice a slight difference. Most 'normal' servers are I/O bound anyway, and so have spare CPU to use for mdadm. [07:35] ok and what about on desktop hardware [07:35] Ender: Also note that RAID1 needs less CPU than RAID5, if you want to minimize how much CPU mdadm uses. [07:35] old desktop hardware [07:35] like p4-era [07:36] P4 isn't all that old :) I ran software RAID on PIII servers a decade or more ago... as long as you are not expecting that desktop to also be doing something super-CPU-intensive my guess is that you are unlikely to see the difference. [07:36] I used a 400 MHz Pentium II for a home file server with two disks in software raid 1 and four disks in software raid 5 until last year. Worked perfectly. [07:37] wow sweet [07:37] ok that's very reassuring [07:37] i have four 80gb western digital caviars sitting here [07:38] lemme go see if ican plug 'em all in.... [07:38] RAID 10 here we come? :) [07:41] well damn [07:41] this is a dell minitower [07:41] no space for even a 2nd harddrive [07:41] [07:41] I'm happy with Raid Mirrors for my backups :) [07:42] Diff batches of disks obviously. [07:47] what's the best way to increase the life of my storage drives [07:47] i mean, the best way to set up a nas [07:47] like, should i run the nas on the same harddrive/raid array as my server's OS [07:47] or is it substantially better to run the OS from a separate physical drive [07:48] ? [07:57] i'd start by learning how to use lvms [08:00] airtonix, any particular suggestion on how to do that? === _TechAway_ is now known as _Techie_ [08:01] http://www.linuxconfig.org/Linux_lvm_-_Logical_Volume_Manager [08:01] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Volume_Manager_(Linux) [08:01] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Lvm [08:01] Ahem... maybe start with the Server Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/advanced-installation.html [08:01] Seeing as we are in #ubuntu-server :) [08:01] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/RAID1%2BLVM [08:01] ok point taken [08:02] i can use google just fine, thanks [08:02] i typically use google [08:02] but that last one is what you want [08:04] hi. anyone can show me the way of ssl. been struggling on this issue for a couple of week, though. ubuntu server 10.10, though. [08:04] the files: /etc/apache2/sites-available/abv.conf is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/564276/ and /etc/apache2/ports.conf is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/564274/ [08:05] ok good people of ubuntu-server, i am off to bed [08:05] goodnight! [08:05] and good hacking (: [08:05] nite Ender [08:06] zairo: Did you read the Server Guide about SSL in Apache2? https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html [08:06] If you followed that, how far did you get and what happened? [08:07] jmarsden: let me check it out first. before this my ref are http://www.tc.umn.edu/~brams006/selfsign.html http://www.tc.umn.edu/~brams006/selfsign_ubuntu.html [08:08] zairo: It is usually safer to use official docs, not random stuff from elsewhere :) [08:09] jmarsden: gulp. i guess i've slapped from far, hu2 [08:12] :) The link to the Server Guide is in the /topic for this channel for very good reasons... it really does have quite a bit of useful info in it, and if that info is bad, we can file bugs and provide patches and get it corrected :) We can't do any of that for other web pages "out there somewhere"... [08:18] ok i read this also: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/certificates-and-security.html [08:20] OK. So... try doing it and if you get an error, come back here and ask for help :) [08:22] i should :) my due for this is end of this week. [08:24] For just one web site, it should be only minutes of work, not days :) [08:31] jmarsden: i am a programmer cum network, though. quite new on server but been 2 years on Ubuntu desktop. [08:31] * jmarsden has been using Linux since 1992 :) [08:33] jmarsden: your phone also Linux, don't u? mine Nokia N900 [08:34] Android G1, but I need it to stay working, so I have not hacked it :) But, that's not really on topic in #ubuntu-server [08:36] ok i am at step 6 of https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/certificates-and-security.html. === twister004_ is now known as twister004 [08:40] zairo: so you have made a self-signed ca-cert and need a servercert signed by your ca? [08:41] xampart: yep already servercert, i think. [08:42] step 7 quite confusing [08:43] ok i create new file name mydomain and put it at/etc/ssl/certs/ [08:48] zairo: A new file? Or a copy of the correct part of /etc/ssl/newcerts/01.pem ? Also, the filename of the certificate is usually mydomain.crt not just mydomain [08:49] jmarsden i put extension .pem though [08:56] New bug: #715056 in dovecot (main) "invalid ssl-certificates in /etc/postfix/main.cf after security upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/715056 [08:58] <\sh> I wonder why people still using RHEL or CentOS...the default install of CentOS (without tweaking manually) is a mess and gives me a headache. Why on earth someone needs Squid on a default install? *bhod* [08:59] \sh: At least it has SELinux by default. [09:01] <\sh> jpds: the only positive...but I wonder how many people are trained in writing selinux policies (is there a RHCE training for selinux? dunno) [09:01] jmarsden: ok finish step8. i restart server and got error :Action 'start' failed. [09:01] zairo: Usually this means you made a mistake in editing a config file somewhere. Read the logs under /var/log/apache to see what the problem is. [09:01] Um.... /var/log/apache2/ [09:02] Unable to read server certificate from file /etc/ssl/private/cakey.pem [09:02] OK, so check file permissions on that file carefully. [09:02] wrong cert file. what file i should use? [09:03] ok. should be 600 rite? [09:04] now Init: Private key not found [09:05] zairo: If apache2 needs to read it, it may need to be 0640 and group www-data [09:05] thanks. will do that now. [09:08] <_ruben> hmm .. been getting more and more kernel panics on my router vms .. not good .. about time to do some investigations [09:08] \sh: sure, there is training for selinux on rhce and afaik squid would never be on by default, depends which package groups you are installing.... bluetooth by default for @base in RHEL5 sucked though [09:10] Init: Unable to read server certificate from file /etc/ssl/private/cakey.pem [09:10] zairo: Is there really a valid server certificate in that file? [09:11] i am not sure which is the correct file [09:12] If you followed the instructions, I think cakey.pem is the root CA key, not a server certificate... [09:13] <\sh> TREllis: I just installed the server layout from centos without tweaking the package list manually...and squid is installed by default..which looks really awkward [09:13] zairo: What makes you think cakey.pem should be a server cert? [09:13] It's name says it is a CA key, and the instructions show it being a CA key... so why are you telling Apache it is a server certificate? I'm confused... [09:14] i follow all the steps and named. is there other name for key file in that tutorial? [09:14] <\sh> TREllis: and yes..bluetooth should be avoided [09:15] sorry i am not really understand what i am doing. [09:15] i just follow the step. [09:16] if you "followed the steps" then your server cert should be a file called something like /etc/ssl/certs/mydomain.crt [09:16] So did you tell Apache that is where the server certificate is? [09:17] that is in which steps? [09:18] Incidentally, "not knowing what you are doing" is fairly bad, this is security related setup you are doing here... you need to know what you are doing, to keep your server secured. [09:19] i do. will try to understand after i manage to make it. [09:19] Back on the https configuration page, I see "The directories /etc/ssl/certs and /etc/ssl/private are the default locations. If you install the certificate and key in another directory make sure to change SSLCertificateFile and SSLCertificateKeyFile appropriately"... what did you do regarding those paths === FkCek is now known as FkCek|a [09:19] i leave it as default folder [09:20] Then why is Apache trying to read a *server* certificate from /etc/ssl/private/cakey.pem ? [09:21] pastebin your ssl site config file so I can read it, please. [09:22] ok wait a minute [09:24] zairo: OK, but it is 01:24AM here, I do need to go to bed sometime soon :) [09:24] http://paste.ubuntu.com/564318/ [09:25] Um. So.. line 5. Why did you tell Apache that there is a server certificate in the cakey.pem file???? [09:25] ic. may be u can show the way. i think i use the wrong file or something. [09:25] Look at the example in line 10... [09:25] ic. where is the correct file? [09:26] It uses a .crt file. You made one of those, right? Hopefully /etc/ssl/certs/mydomain.crt [09:26] line 10 is what i am doing before this [09:27] Where did you put the server certificate that you made? [09:27] In step 8. [09:27] That is where it is. [09:27] It is where you put it :) [09:27] in /etc/ssl/certs/ [09:28] OK, so then the SSLCertificateFile line needs to say that :) [09:28] that's for SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/ssl/certs/api_undies_my.pem, rite? [09:29] I don't understand the question. [09:30] the error on certificateFile or CertificateKeyFile? [09:31] Line 5 is definitely wrong. I don't know about Line 6. [09:31] So change line 5 and retest. [09:31] Hi. I need to create a couple of dummy interfaces which I can connect to a bridge (br0). Need to test mac number assignments against a switch. Any recommendations? It's like a bunch of virtual machines having there own interface. [09:31] tun? [09:33] jmarsden: sorry for your time. may be i can solve it on my own. [09:33] thanks a lot bro :) [09:33] Blinkiz: It is late and I should sleep, but... do tun devices have MAC addresses?? If you need a MAC address, I'm not sure tun will get you one. [09:33] zairo: OK... goodnight :) [09:33] ok. nite n nice to meet u [09:34] jmarsden, tap? :) [09:35] aaa, tap seems nice [09:35] Blinkiz: Maybe... sounds plausible, at least :) [09:35] I really need to sleep, sorry :) [09:36] jmarsden, Sleep... It's 10am here :) [09:36] 01:36AM here :) [09:36] Am sitting here a work. :) [09:38] jmarsden: will continue tomorrow :) [09:39] adios [09:39] <_ruben> ok, this is getting crazy .. got like 4 kernel panics in an hour === DaBeast_ is now known as DaBeast === _Techie_ is now known as _TechAway_ [09:50] * dwatkins wonders if there's a lost manpage for parted which has a --show-exact-bytes option documented [09:50] dwatkins: Easier to read the source code than find a possibly nonexistent man page, I would suggest :) [09:51]