[02:38] <DammitJim> was someone on here using Mint?
[03:16] <DammitJim> mint anyone?
[04:07] <crashsystems> DammitJim: I use mint
[04:07] <DammitJim> crashsystems, aren't you scared?
[04:07] <mhall119> of mint?
[04:07] <crashsystems> scared of what?
[04:08] <crashsystems> giving mint the password to my bank account?
[04:08] <DammitJim> yes... to all my accounts
[04:08]  * DammitJim just did it
[04:09] <crashsystems> well, I figure that if anyone is going to go after my online banking, they are going to attack my bank's site, not mint.
[04:09] <crashsystems> plenty of ways to attack banking sites
[04:09] <DammitJim> lol
[04:09] <DammitJim> true
[04:10] <DammitJim> it's just scary 'cause Mint now knows everything about my finances
[04:10] <crashsystems> I've seen some scary crap on financial service websites
[04:10] <DammitJim> I wanted to stick to QUicken or the debian version
[04:10] <DammitJim> but I need something online
[04:11] <crashsystems> I did a little something extra to protect my mint account though
[04:11] <crashsystems> with mint your email address is your user id, and they accept email addresses of the form someuser+randomcrap@example.com
[04:12] <crashsystems> so I have a plus sign in my user name, and then a random string. makes brute forcing kinda difficult for someone who is starting with my email address
[04:12] <crashsystems> of course, just creating a separate email for mint would be better
[04:12] <DammitJim> good point
[04:14] <crashsystems> besides, I don't think so many people use mint that it would be a more attractive target than say, bank of america.
[04:14] <DammitJim> that's true
[04:14] <DammitJim> I wish I could remove categories from Mint
[04:15] <crashsystems> I need to configure my budget
[04:15] <DammitJim> that's why I'm doing this... my wife and I have to get it done... money is leaking somewhere LOL
[04:16] <crashsystems> since I have not configured it, it made an auto-budget based upon the past three months of account activity. those three months for me were the last three I was unemployed, so the budget was a bit off
[04:16] <DammitJim> where are you at now?
[04:16] <DammitJim> btw, can you go older than 3 months?
[04:17] <crashsystems> I'd get emails like the one right after I purchased my laptop, saying things like "unusual spending in electronics. you spent $1,200 in electronics last month, and you usually spend $2."
[04:17] <crashsystems> I'm in Sunnyvale california.
[04:17] <crashsystems> I don't know
[04:17] <DammitJim> lol
[04:17] <DammitJim> california? how is sunnyvale?
[04:17] <DammitJim> what are you doing?
[04:18] <crashsystems> I'm working at WhiteHat Security. Basically customers hire us to find security vulnerabilities in their websites.
[04:19] <DammitJim> wow
[04:19] <DammitJim> you are good at that stuff! good luck with it
[04:19] <crashsystems> thanks
[04:19] <DammitJim> dammit... T-mobile is going to have free phones on the 11th and 12th!
[04:19] <crashsystems> "free"
[04:19] <DammitJim> I hope they don't jack up the price of the monthly web
[04:19] <DammitJim> 2 year contract :)
[04:19] <DammitJim> my wife is up for renewal
[04:20] <DammitJim> and she lost her G2 2 weeks ago :(
[04:20] <crashsystems> Whenever I'm at home my phone number is routed over WiFi. Its my little way at getting (slightly) even with telcos
[04:20] <DammitJim> is there a way to get mint to color code stuff?
[04:20] <DammitJim> how do you do that, crashsystems ?
[04:20] <crashsystems> I don't know. I've not really used the web interface beyond setting up the account.
[04:21] <crashsystems> I've got a gizmo5 account, and Gingerbread has built in voip
[04:21] <crashsystems> you can do it with sipgate though too
[04:21] <DammitJim> gizmo5? sipgate?
[04:21] <DammitJim> are those free services?
[04:21] <DammitJim> is that similar to google voice?
[04:22] <crashsystems> gizmo5 is a freemium service, but they were bought by google and registration is closed
[04:22] <crashsystems> same thing with sipgate, sans google and registration is still open
[04:22] <crashsystems> http://crashsystems.net/2010/04/google-voice-gizmo5-sipdroid/ <-- info about my setup pre android 2.3
[04:25] <DammitJim> what's your upstream internet?
[04:25] <crashsystems> comcast
[04:26] <crashsystems> its kinda funny, I'm in the middle of silicon valley, and I still only have one choice of internet provider.
[04:26] <DammitJim> lol
[04:26] <DammitJim> we are behind in internet services for Americans still....
[04:26] <DammitJim> so, there is no sip stuff I can do with my Nexus S?
[04:27] <crashsystems> sure there is 
[04:27] <DammitJim> for a price?
[04:27] <crashsystems> you could do the exact same setup I have, but using sipgate instead of gizmo5
[04:27] <DammitJim> I know T-mobile lets you use WiFi, but they still use up your minutes
[04:27] <crashsystems> sipgate is free for incoming calls
[04:27] <crashsystems> with my setup, every call, even outgoing, is technically incomming when on wifi
[04:28] <DammitJim> how is that?
[04:28] <crashsystems> I should really write a blog post about it
[04:28] <DammitJim> yeah ;)
[04:29] <DammitJim> have you tried Tango? that's worked great for me
[04:29] <crashsystems> In fact, I think I'll do that.
[04:29] <crashsystems> nope. what is it?
[04:30] <DammitJim> oh man, you have the nexus 1, not the s, right?
[04:30] <DammitJim> it's for video conferencing
[04:31] <crashsystems> correct
[04:31] <DammitJim> and video streaming is pretty good
[04:33] <crashsystems> nice. I've been using gtalk on my laptop for video conferencing
[04:33] <DammitJim> google talk?
[04:33] <crashsystems> yep
[04:34] <DammitJim> never tried it
[04:34] <crashsystems> well, when you are doing video chat on your Nexus S, technically you are using it.
[04:35] <DammitJim> hhhmm
[04:36] <crashsystems> they have a browser plugin that lets users use voice/video chat right in the gmail interface
[04:37] <crashsystems> http://www.google.com/chat/video
[04:39] <DammitJim> alright, enough of this
[04:39] <DammitJim> I better hit the sack if I want to do any android dev tomorrow
[04:39] <crashsystems> goodnight
[04:41] <DammitJim> see ya man
[04:41] <DammitJim> thanks for all the info
[04:41] <DammitJim> where did mike go?
[04:41] <DammitJim> ... or mhall119 ...
[14:14] <dantalizing> morning
[14:14] <dantalizing> maxolasersquad: sry i missed you the other day
[14:15] <maxolasersquad> dantalizing: It's cool.  I don't really expect people to be on much on the weekends.
[14:16] <dantalizing> maxolasersquad: i have a jabber notification setup, so that I'd get notifications on google talk, but apparently i borked it somewhere along the way :(
[14:16] <dantalizing> mmmmm..... jabber borking
[14:16] <maxolasersquad> Do you have information on how to set that up?
[14:20] <dantalizing> somewhere
[14:20] <dantalizing> i'll check
[14:21] <dantalizing> its an irssi script
[14:21] <jck77> good morning
[14:22] <dantalizing> morning jck77 
[14:22] <dantalizing> maxolasersquad: https://github.com/chmouel/irssi-xmpp-notify
[14:25] <maxolasersquad> dantalizing: Awesome.  I don't have a clue what I was pinging you for.
[15:40] <maxolasersquad> dantalizing: I remember now.  I was hoping you would take a look at http://code.google.com/r/maxolasersquad-osmand/ for me.
[15:41] <maxolasersquad> I made some modifications, which cause the app to crash when my GPS Location changes.
[15:42] <maxolasersquad> I added a new configuration so the user could choose MPH or KPH, and then display the speed according to the option chosen.
[15:42] <maxolasersquad> The problem appears to be in my implementation of the option.
[15:42] <maxolasersquad> This is my first shot at doing any coding on Android.
[15:52] <dantalizing> maxolasersquad: i'll play with it tonight ... see if I find something
[15:52] <maxolasersquad> I greatly appreciate it.  I've restepped everything I did and I don't see a problem.
[16:17] <maxolasersquad> dantalizing: I'm pretty sure the problem lies somewhere in my implementation of the ListPreference