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mr_pouitmicahg: not right now, because only a few ones have been uploaded, so I can still manage that. When all panel plugins (30+) are uploaded, your help will be welcome though ;P09:12
mr_pouit(but some core libs are still in new, so there's still time)09:12
mr_pouitcharlie-tca: :) that was nice, but a bit overcrowded (and I didn't attend to many talks, I mostly talked with the Xfce and some ubuntu-fr guys)09:14
ochosiarr, just installed the latest updates on my natty install and now it doesn't even boot anymore14:27
ochosiguess i gotta do a fresh install (which on the other hand is great for testing)14:27
charlie-tcawhere is it stopping?14:28
ochosihard to say, stupid plymouth doesn't show any errors at all14:28
ochosimaybe i'll mount the partition in maverick and look in /var/log14:28
charlie-tcaget to the grub menu, remove "quiet splash" so you can see the messages14:28
ochosiyeah, that would be another option14:29
charlie-tcahit shift right after bios check to get the grub menu14:29
ochosik, seems to be the nouveau driver not working well14:30
ochosiFatal server error:14:30
ochosi[    10.463] no screens found14:30
charlie-tcayup14:30
ochosimaybe it's because of the options in my xorg.conf (that i need for the proprietary nvidia-driver)14:30
charlie-tcaYou don't have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, do you?14:30
charlie-tcaNatty won't use the nvidia hardware driver yet, it is not compatible with Xserver 1.1014:31
ochosii renamed/moved it, will try to boot again now14:31
ochosibrb14:31
ochosimkay, now it boots again14:33
ochosibut i guess i have to put some stupid xrandr-command in my startup now14:33
ochosimr_pouit: you mentioned earlier that the panel-config is not in the settings-manager?14:33
charlie-tcayeah, nouveau won't boot with the xorg.conf file. I don't know how to make it, either14:33
ochosiawwwh, noveau/xrandr doesn't recognize my external screen14:34
* charlie-tca got his "one right thing" in for today14:34
ochosii mean now i have it cloned in a small section of the large external monitor14:34
ochosibut that's about it14:34
ochosiwhat's that, charlie-tca ?14:35
charlie-tcathat one I don't know how to fix, either14:35
charlie-tcaI only get one right answer a day, myself. I used it up for today...14:35
ochosik, but what answer was it?14:35
charlie-tcayour /etc/X11/xorg.conf stopping the boot14:36
ochosiah :D14:36
ochosibtw, did you copy the stuff from the shimmer wiki to the xubuntu wiki already?14:36
charlie-tcano14:36
charlie-tcano time yet. :-(14:36
ochosik, where would you want to put it?14:36
ochosinp14:36
ochosicharlie-tca: shall i create new points/links in "new objectives for natty"? (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap)14:40
ochosiany other place is just as good with me, just let me know14:41
charlie-tcasure14:42
charlie-tcaI don't see anything that works real good, and it will change for each release, won't it?14:42
ochosiyou mean the roadmap-thing?14:43
ochosior the wiki structure in general?14:43
charlie-tcathe publicity thing will be changed/added to for each new release14:43
ochosiah right14:43
ochosiyeah14:43
charlie-tcayeah, go ahead and create it14:44
ochosiis that all you want to move from here: http://wiki.knome.fi/xubuntu:start ?14:44
ochosibrb (gotta boot back to maverick, this small resolution is driving me nuts)14:45
charlie-tcaIsn't the rest your development stuff, that might go to any other distro as well, should you decide, or is it limited to xubuntu?14:48
mr_pouitochosi: it is, but it doesn't use "pluggable dialogs", so it will open a new window14:55
ochosicharlie-tca: atm it's limited to xubuntu, i'm not involved in any other distros15:53
ochosimr_pouit: ah right, i never clicked it tbh :)15:53
charlie-tcaI leave it up to you, then. If you are comfortable with it on shimmer, it is fine15:53
charlie-tcaOtherwise, we can put it under Artwork15:53
ochosiok15:54
ochosii'll think about it15:54
charlie-tcaI think our interest is in the final results, more than the development phases, it that makes any sense15:54
ochosiyeah, that was also the main reason why i kept it in the shimmer wiki15:54
ochosii don't wanna spam the xubuntu wiki with dev-progress stuff15:55
charlie-tcai can agree with that.15:55
ochosiunless it's decided that people want to see more what happens behind the curtain15:55
ochosiwith which i'm also ok15:55
ochosimaybe we can decide that for the next cycle15:55
charlie-tcaIf someone requests it, we can do it15:55
ochosiyep15:55
ochosiwow, i could in fact go to the next UDS15:56
ochosiit's pretty close to where i live15:56
charlie-tcaYou could even apply for sponsorship15:57
micahgcharlie-tca: are you going to Budapest?15:57
ochosimaybe not even needed, it's a 3hrs journey by train and i might be able to find a place to stay with friends15:57
charlie-tcahttp://uds.ubuntu.com/15:58
charlie-tcaI want to15:58
charlie-tcaapplied for it, at least15:58
charlie-tcaMight be way exhausting for me, but there is a Jazz festival that week in Budapest, too.15:59
charlie-tcaIf I can get to UDS, I will try to get to that, too.15:59
ochosiwhat jazz festival?15:59
charlie-tcaJazz Spring 16:02
charlie-tcaInternational Jazz Festival16:03
charlie-tcahttp://www.corinthia.com/Budapest/Budapest-guide/whats-on-in-Budapest/16:03
ochosilooks nice16:05
charlie-tcaThat was my thought. It is not cost prohibitive, either16:05
micahganyone have any issues upgrading Thunderbird on natty recently?18:11
charlie-tcamicahg: working here18:13
micahg3.1.8+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu2?18:13
charlie-tcaversion 3.1.818:13
charlie-tca3.1.8+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu5 installed18:14
charlie-tca3.1.8+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu6 candidate18:15
micahgcharlie-tca: right, that's the old one still, there is a build2+ubuntu1 and build2+ubuntu2 now18:15
charlie-tcahm, need to run updates again then18:15
charlie-tcaIt is in updates, will run them and let you know18:16
micahgcharlie-tca: thanks18:16
charlie-tcaI only been updating once a day this week18:17
micahgcharlie-tca: I think that's pretty standard :)18:19
charlie-tcaSome weeks it is a 4-time a day thing18:21
charlie-tcamicahg: no errors on updates, starting thunderbird now18:43
micahgcharlie-tca: cool, thanks, you got all the way to build2 ubuntu218:43
charlie-tcayes18:44
micahgok, thanks18:45
charlie-tcafirefox 4.0b11 does not save tabs, even checked in preferences to reopen all tabs when starting18:45
charlie-tcathunderbird worked18:45
micahgcharlie-tca: from chrisccoulson: you need to go to History -> Restore Previous Session18:48
charlie-tcareally?18:50
charlie-tcaThanks18:50

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