=== j1mc|away is now known as j1mc [09:12] micahg: not right now, because only a few ones have been uploaded, so I can still manage that. When all panel plugins (30+) are uploaded, your help will be welcome though ;P [09:12] (but some core libs are still in new, so there's still time) [09:14] charlie-tca: :) that was nice, but a bit overcrowded (and I didn't attend to many talks, I mostly talked with the Xfce and some ubuntu-fr guys) [14:27] arr, just installed the latest updates on my natty install and now it doesn't even boot anymore [14:27] guess i gotta do a fresh install (which on the other hand is great for testing) [14:28] where is it stopping? [14:28] hard to say, stupid plymouth doesn't show any errors at all [14:28] maybe i'll mount the partition in maverick and look in /var/log [14:28] get to the grub menu, remove "quiet splash" so you can see the messages [14:29] yeah, that would be another option [14:29] hit shift right after bios check to get the grub menu [14:30] k, seems to be the nouveau driver not working well [14:30] Fatal server error: [14:30] [ 10.463] no screens found [14:30] yup [14:30] maybe it's because of the options in my xorg.conf (that i need for the proprietary nvidia-driver) [14:30] You don't have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, do you? [14:31] Natty won't use the nvidia hardware driver yet, it is not compatible with Xserver 1.10 [14:31] i renamed/moved it, will try to boot again now [14:31] brb [14:33] mkay, now it boots again [14:33] but i guess i have to put some stupid xrandr-command in my startup now [14:33] mr_pouit: you mentioned earlier that the panel-config is not in the settings-manager? [14:33] yeah, nouveau won't boot with the xorg.conf file. I don't know how to make it, either [14:34] awwwh, noveau/xrandr doesn't recognize my external screen [14:34] * charlie-tca got his "one right thing" in for today [14:34] i mean now i have it cloned in a small section of the large external monitor [14:34] but that's about it [14:35] what's that, charlie-tca ? [14:35] that one I don't know how to fix, either [14:35] I only get one right answer a day, myself. I used it up for today... [14:35] k, but what answer was it? [14:36] your /etc/X11/xorg.conf stopping the boot [14:36] ah :D [14:36] btw, did you copy the stuff from the shimmer wiki to the xubuntu wiki already? [14:36] no [14:36] no time yet. :-( [14:36] k, where would you want to put it? [14:36] np [14:40] charlie-tca: shall i create new points/links in "new objectives for natty"? (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap) [14:41] any other place is just as good with me, just let me know [14:42] sure [14:42] I don't see anything that works real good, and it will change for each release, won't it? [14:43] you mean the roadmap-thing? [14:43] or the wiki structure in general? [14:43] the publicity thing will be changed/added to for each new release [14:43] ah right [14:43] yeah [14:44] yeah, go ahead and create it [14:44] is that all you want to move from here: http://wiki.knome.fi/xubuntu:start ? [14:45] brb (gotta boot back to maverick, this small resolution is driving me nuts) [14:48] Isn't the rest your development stuff, that might go to any other distro as well, should you decide, or is it limited to xubuntu? [14:55] ochosi: it is, but it doesn't use "pluggable dialogs", so it will open a new window [15:53] charlie-tca: atm it's limited to xubuntu, i'm not involved in any other distros [15:53] mr_pouit: ah right, i never clicked it tbh :) [15:53] I leave it up to you, then. If you are comfortable with it on shimmer, it is fine [15:53] Otherwise, we can put it under Artwork [15:54] ok [15:54] i'll think about it [15:54] I think our interest is in the final results, more than the development phases, it that makes any sense [15:54] yeah, that was also the main reason why i kept it in the shimmer wiki [15:55] i don't wanna spam the xubuntu wiki with dev-progress stuff [15:55] i can agree with that. [15:55] unless it's decided that people want to see more what happens behind the curtain [15:55] with which i'm also ok [15:55] maybe we can decide that for the next cycle [15:55] If someone requests it, we can do it [15:55] yep [15:56] wow, i could in fact go to the next UDS [15:56] it's pretty close to where i live [15:57] You could even apply for sponsorship [15:57] charlie-tca: are you going to Budapest? [15:57] maybe not even needed, it's a 3hrs journey by train and i might be able to find a place to stay with friends [15:58] http://uds.ubuntu.com/ [15:58] I want to [15:58] applied for it, at least [15:59] Might be way exhausting for me, but there is a Jazz festival that week in Budapest, too. [15:59] If I can get to UDS, I will try to get to that, too. [15:59] what jazz festival? [16:02] Jazz Spring [16:03] International Jazz Festival [16:03] http://www.corinthia.com/Budapest/Budapest-guide/whats-on-in-Budapest/ [16:05] looks nice [16:05] That was my thought. It is not cost prohibitive, either [18:11] anyone have any issues upgrading Thunderbird on natty recently? [18:13] micahg: working here [18:13] 3.1.8+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu2? [18:13] version 3.1.8 [18:14] 3.1.8+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu5 installed [18:15] 3.1.8+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu6 candidate [18:15] charlie-tca: right, that's the old one still, there is a build2+ubuntu1 and build2+ubuntu2 now [18:15] hm, need to run updates again then [18:16] It is in updates, will run them and let you know [18:16] charlie-tca: thanks [18:17] I only been updating once a day this week [18:19] charlie-tca: I think that's pretty standard :) [18:21] Some weeks it is a 4-time a day thing [18:43] micahg: no errors on updates, starting thunderbird now [18:43] charlie-tca: cool, thanks, you got all the way to build2 ubuntu2 [18:44] yes [18:45] ok, thanks [18:45] firefox 4.0b11 does not save tabs, even checked in preferences to reopen all tabs when starting [18:45] thunderbird worked [18:48] charlie-tca: from chrisccoulson: you need to go to History -> Restore Previous Session [18:50] really? [18:50] Thanks