| nothingman | hi, all | 04:00 |
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| linuxson | Good morning everyone | 06:19 |
| linuxson | Still having problems with booting up and logging into user accounts via iTalc. Wakeonlan has been enabled in all networked pcs, and can boot them up using etherwake. Any help? | 06:21 |
| linuxson | Anyone? | 06:24 |
| linuxson | Having problems with booting up and logging into user accounts via iTalc. Wakeonlan has been enabled in all networked pcs, and can boot them up using etherwake. Any help? | 07:18 |
| linuxson | Having problems with booting up and logging into user accounts via iTalc. Wakeonlan has been enabled in all networked pcs, and can boot them up using etherwake. Any help? | 08:45 |
| linuxson | Hmmmmm....seems like the edubuntu channel is for parking ONLY...now where do I pass Go so I can collect $200?? Thanx so much for all your tons of help, don't know what I would do without it, except maybe commit a hanous crime against humanity!!!! | 09:18 |
| x[x] | hey im currently working on a project about edubuntu for my class project and i was wondering is there an application list i can see that might be installed or what the safe guards are against bad websites and so on | 12:22 |
| x[x] | i cant see it on the website | 12:23 |
| x[x] | oh hey i think i found it | 12:24 |
| mhall119 | stgraber: http://justanothertriager.wordpress.com/2011/02/09/have-an-interesting-project-you-want-to-talk-about/ sandbox might be a good thing to talk about | 12:32 |
| doctormo | highvoltage: Is there a meeting today? if so, what time? | 13:17 |
| highvoltage | doctormo: 20:00 UTC, 2pm EDT | 13:33 |
| doctormo | highvoltage: Have you had any further thoughts on what you want? | 13:34 |
| highvoltage | doctormo: a little, I'd like to get wider input though. I could tell you exactly what I'd think would be great, but in the end it's what would be good for our users that matter | 13:36 |
| doctormo | highvoltage: It's art, there are a few objective criteria, but what you're struggling with is all the subjectives. | 13:37 |
| highvoltage | doctormo: will talk again a bit later, I need to head off the office (will be back in around 20m) | 13:40 |
| doctormo | cure np | 13:41 |
| doctormo | sure | 13:41 |
| stgraber | mhall119: good idea indeed, adding myself to the list. | 14:48 |
| callumacrae | How would I go about setting up edubuntu so that it accesses stuff over a network, and uses login info and files from the server? | 17:03 |
| highvoltage | callumacrae: depends, are you planning on going diskless? | 17:34 |
| callumacrae | I've already got 100 computers, a good server, and a fairly bad network setup, everything running windoze | 17:35 |
| callumacrae | We're considering moving to edubuntu | 17:35 |
| callumacrae | I guess we could use LTSP, but the network setup isn't great | 17:36 |
| callumacrae | so it would need improvment | 17:36 |
| highvoltage | indeed, ltsp is not great over a bad network | 17:37 |
| highvoltage | I guess using samba for shares would be a good idea, especially since you have windows machines as well | 17:38 |
| callumacrae | We're getting rid of them | 17:38 |
| callumacrae | they're just too slow on these old computers | 17:39 |
| highvoltage | backuppc is usually a good idea for backups, unless you want to store user's home directories on the server. nfs would be good for that | 17:39 |
| highvoltage | pretty much everything is getting slow. web apps are getting huger by the day it seems | 17:40 |
| callumacrae | we upgraded to W7 from XP, that's when it died | 17:40 |
| highvoltage | ah :) | 17:40 |
| highvoltage | callumacrae: the channel varies in traffic, if you hang around most of your answers can be answered | 17:42 |
| callumacrae | thanks | 17:42 |
| highvoltage | callumacrae: you could use NIS+ or LDAP for centralized auth, LDAP is more secure and integrates with a lot more, NIS+ pretty much only gives you logins and has security issues | 17:43 |
| highvoltage | callumacrae: the ubuntu wiki has lots of information for all of this, and the edubuntu mailing lists is also a pretty good place to ask about this kind of stuff | 17:43 |
| callumacrae | thanks, I'll take a look | 17:48 |
| highvoltage | edubuntu meeting on #ubuntu-meeting in about half an hour | 18:32 |
| highvoltage | doctormo: are you around? | 18:45 |
| doctormo | highvoltage: I'm staying around for you my friend | 18:45 |
| highvoltage | doctormo: the edubuntu meeting is in around 15 minutes in #ubuntu-meeting. stgraber just told me that he can't make it due to other commitments, but the others should be there at least | 18:46 |
| highvoltage | time for edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting | 18:58 |
| hajour | hai all i will ask my questions when you are finished with the meeting :) | 19:04 |
| alkisg_web | hajour: you can ask now, and anyone that has time will see / answer them | 19:04 |
| alkisg_web | No need to wait till the meeting is over | 19:04 |
| hajour | yes but i don't want to disturb understand ?:) | 19:05 |
| alkisg_web | hajour: sure, I'm telling you that you don't disturb anything if you write here | 19:06 |
| callumacrae | The meeting is in another channel | 19:07 |
| hajour | ok:) | 19:07 |
| hajour | i have some health issues.so i am not so fast with writhing :) | 19:07 |
| hajour | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/hajour << then you understand | 19:10 |
| alkisg_web | hajour: don't worry about your writing speed, take your time | 19:13 |
| hajour | ok i was wondering or edubuntu also support electronic schoolbords | 19:14 |
| hajour | and what it have for children with issues . reading and writing problems because they are on normal primary schools here in netherlands | 19:15 |
| callumacrae | I was wondering about the electronic boards, too | 19:20 |
| alkisg_web | I think there are some that support Ubuntu (and so Edubuntu as well), and the manufacturers provide drivers + software, but I don't remember the models | 19:21 |
| hajour | well this school have already 3 of that kind of schoolbords you see | 19:23 |
| hajour | and the director will go ask about that | 19:24 |
| hajour | i want to be good prepared | 19:24 |
| alkisg_web | You'll need their model then. Google for their model + ubuntu | 19:25 |
| alkisg_web | Or, once you find their model, ask in #ubuntu or here to see if anyone has used them | 19:25 |
| hajour | i don't no that yet. | 19:25 |
| hajour | ok | 19:25 |
| hajour | and my other question. | 19:26 |
| alkisg_web | I don't know enough about accessibility, but here's a start: http://projects.gnome.org/accessibility/ | 19:26 |
| alkisg_web | Edubuntu uses gnome, so it also uses its accessibility infrastructure | 19:27 |
| hajour | if that is the option then i know we have to hurry up with speechcontrol | 19:27 |
| hajour | because i am already in accessibility team | 19:28 |
| hajour | yes but gnome use more processor power and memory | 19:28 |
| hajour | many schools here in netherland have not new pc s | 19:29 |
| hajour | they now use on the moment windows from 2001 | 19:29 |
| hajour | that says enough i think | 19:30 |
| alkisg_web | Here in Greece we also have PCs from 1998 :) | 19:30 |
| alkisg_web | We turned many of them to ubuntu / ltsp labs: http://goo.gl/maps/nOoQ | 19:30 |
| hajour | also the government is going to give again 300 million less money on the schools | 19:31 |
| highvoltage | doctormo: the competition-style also seems to attract a lot of "hey! let me hack something together in 60s and submit it!" | 19:31 |
| hajour | here also more older then that alkisg_web | 19:31 |
| alkisg_web | Well anything with 64MB RAM can be used as an LTSP client | 19:32 |
| hajour | if i succeed to get this school use edubuntu then the next will be easier | 19:32 |
| hajour | i will go ask all primary schools in this province and after that high schools but it has to be done good prepared and good | 19:33 |
| highvoltage | hajour: wow just read your wiki page and I think it's great that you want to get involved! | 19:34 |
| hajour | sorry for repeating myself | 19:34 |
| hajour | thank you highvoltage | 19:34 |
| hajour | also have read my sub page from accessibility? | 19:35 |
| doctormo | highvoltage: it's good for making concepts, i admit that. | 19:35 |
| doctormo | But we in the art team don't have a good site put together to allow people to contribute in that way | 19:36 |
| doctormo | Ont he understanding that a concept is a start, not a finish. | 19:36 |
| doctormo | And production isn't the same as picking something off a shelf. We need to collaborate, not just create a very large shelf of work to pick from. | 19:36 |
| highvoltage | hajour: not yet... | 19:37 |
| highvoltage | doctormo: yep, I pretty much 100% agree with you there | 19:37 |
| hajour | well take your time :) you are also in a meeting | 19:37 |
| hajour | if you are ready with the meeting i can tell some about a new project we are busy to begin with for deaf | 19:38 |
| hajour | i am also busy with set up a project for accessibility in form of a irc bot on the moment so i am quiet busy :) | 19:40 |
| highvoltage | hajour: have you talked to klaus knopper and his wife before? I'm not sure how involved they are in ubuntu at the moment, but klaus had a bunch of great ideas a few years back and even put together a distro for people who can't see (or see well) | 19:44 |
| hajour | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SpeechControl/Talks/2011-03-04_UDW | 19:50 |
| hajour | highvoltage, ^ | 19:50 |
| hajour | this go be spoken in UDS | 19:51 |
| hajour | i not yet met Klaus knopper | 19:51 |
| hajour | anyway i don't no who they are | 19:52 |
| callumacrae | How many schools actually use edubutu? | 19:53 |
| hajour | i think not many in netherland | 19:53 |
| hajour | but that will go change | 19:53 |
| hajour | they are streaking now the teachers | 19:54 |
| hajour | because of to less money getting for to buy heat pc programs books enz | 19:54 |
| callumacrae | :) | 19:54 |
| hajour | so i had read it | 19:54 |
| hajour | i have called right away the director | 19:55 |
| hajour | that he could get ubuntu what is also linux | 19:55 |
| hajour | then he is interested | 19:55 |
| callumacrae | I'm trying to get my school to get Linux | 19:56 |
| callumacrae | It takes ten minutes to log in with the current (windoze) system | 19:56 |
| hajour | so i know geither more info so i can get the school further over to lubuntu/edubuntu | 19:56 |
| hajour | but the school wants a written piece where is standing the school is allowed to use ubuntu/edubuntu XD | 19:57 |
| callumacrae | XD | 19:57 |
| hajour | i think he not really can believe its free anyway | 19:57 |
| mhall119 | hajour: does it need to be pn physical paper, or is having it in writing online enough? | 19:58 |
| hajour | but if he wants it he can get it i ask just to 1 off the counsel of jono | 19:58 |
| callumacrae | IT techies will need training | 19:58 |
| hajour | paper | 19:58 |
| mhall119 | hajour: shipit.ubuntu.com CDs will have it printed on them | 19:58 |
| hajour | but i know mhall119 that other schools want have that to | 19:59 |
| hajour | it need to be with signature | 19:59 |
| mhall119 | who's signature? | 19:59 |
| hajour | i dont no lol | 19:59 |
| hajour | you tell me | 19:59 |
| hajour | its odd situation | 19:59 |
| mhall119 | FYI System->About Ubuntu will say the same thing, that it's free to use/copy/modify/share | 19:59 |
| Nubae | cool possibility for accessability would be getting an autoreader to read ebooks to voice | 20:00 |
| Nubae | scanner -> ocr -> voice | 20:00 |
| highvoltage | hajour: written permission isn't hard to do :) | 20:00 |
| mhall119 | Nubae: http://projects.gnome.org/outreach/a11y/tasks/evince/ | 20:01 |
| callumacrae | hajour: Send them a copy of the license | 20:01 |
| hajour | just have say it true Nubae | 20:01 |
| callumacrae | What license does it use? | 20:01 |
| hajour | to speechcontrol team | 20:01 |
| highvoltage | callumacrae: edubuntu is made out of many different smaller projects that uses a bunch of different licenses | 20:02 |
| hajour | GPL3 | 20:02 |
| hajour | but it cant be me who write it highvoltage | 20:03 |
| highvoltage | yep, that's one of them. GPLv3, GPLv2, MIT, Apache and BSD licenses are very widely used | 20:03 |
| Nubae | I remember I wrote a script that helped with autoreading a while back, ocropus and tesseract I believe | 20:03 |
| hajour | i have said i have ask on my boss .else he would not listen .because i am a stupid housewive | 20:03 |
| Nubae | wasn't really good enough at the time, perhaps things have changed? | 20:04 |
| mhall119 | hajour: don't let anybody tell you that you're stupid | 20:04 |
| Nubae | only stupid answers, no stupid questions | 20:04 |
| hajour | well mhall119 society is doing that in netherland | 20:05 |
| mhall119 | :( | 20:05 |
| hajour | i am already fighting 18 years to have a simple job | 20:05 |
| hajour | its alright i am used to it after all this time mhall119 | 20:06 |
| hajour | after 3 burn outs because of stress to have no change on jobs running against big walls from government i have learned to just have peace with it | 20:07 |
| hajour | mhall119, ^ | 20:08 |
| callumacrae | How good would the server have to be for 100 computers and that thing where the 100 computers can be diskless? | 20:09 |
| hajour | Nubae, i need info in short simple lines with links.so i can read it better | 20:09 |
| hajour | i can give my email to you mhall119 | 20:10 |
| Nubae | callumacrae ooph... I'd make it quad or dual core at least and 12 gigs+ | 20:10 |
| Nubae | ram | 20:10 |
| callumacrae | Okay :) | 20:11 |
| callumacrae | It'll cost less than 100 windoze licenses :D | 20:11 |
| Nubae | for sure | 20:11 |
| Nubae | I did the ROI for a local school recently, when they said... they really want win 7 + office +visio for 60 cpus | 20:12 |
| Nubae | they quickly decided against it | 20:12 |
| hajour | well Nubae if the schools go use it then later the kids use it at home to.children are the grown ups from the future | 20:13 |
| Nubae | mhall119 hmmm so that's 1 k per month then for that... sounds kinda neat, depending on the hours required | 20:14 |
| hajour | the problem is that schools have a duty to have dyslectic programs | 20:14 |
| Nubae | hajour sure, thats always a problem, as a teacher u have to teach not for the smartest kid in the class and not for the slowest | 20:15 |
| hajour | i think i go to speechcontrol to give my daily pep talk again :P | 20:15 |
| hajour | it has to be suite for all kids | 20:15 |
| hajour | so if we have a good working speech program we win much more users for ubuntu/edubuntu enz | 20:16 |
| Nubae | sure thing | 20:17 |
| hajour | we from speechcontrol do our best to succeed and so fast as possible.we already trying to make open mary finisesd .if we succeed it will possible still come in natty | 20:18 |
| hajour | we only coming a little short to reach that on a few programmers | 20:19 |
| hajour | so i go busy now to search further | 20:20 |
| hajour | mhall119, can i pm you to give my email? | 20:20 |
| mhall119 | hajour: what for? | 20:57 |
| hajour | for info links from edubuntu you said yes on it mhall119 time back | 21:03 |
| hajour | or not? | 21:03 |
| hajour | i have a short break on the moment i am on 21 channels 9 pm s | 21:04 |
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