[04:00] <nothingman> hi, all
[06:19] <linuxson> Good morning everyone
[06:21] <linuxson> Still having problems with booting up and logging into user accounts via iTalc. Wakeonlan has been enabled in all networked pcs, and can boot them up using etherwake. Any help?
[06:24] <linuxson> Anyone?
[07:18] <linuxson> Having problems with booting up and logging into user  accounts via iTalc. Wakeonlan has been enabled in all  networked pcs, and can boot them up using etherwake. Any help?
[08:45] <linuxson> Having problems with booting up and logging into user  accounts via iTalc. Wakeonlan has been enabled in all  networked pcs, and can boot them up using etherwake. Any help?
[09:18] <linuxson> Hmmmmm....seems like the edubuntu channel is for parking ONLY...now where do I pass Go so I can collect $200?? Thanx so much for all your tons of help, don't know what I would do without it, except maybe commit a hanous crime against humanity!!!!
[12:22] <x[x]> hey im currently working on a project about edubuntu for my class project and i was wondering is there an application list i can see that might be installed or what the safe guards are against bad websites and so on
[12:23] <x[x]> i cant see it on the website
[12:24] <x[x]> oh hey i think i found it
[12:32] <mhall119> stgraber: http://justanothertriager.wordpress.com/2011/02/09/have-an-interesting-project-you-want-to-talk-about/ sandbox might be a good thing to talk about
[13:17] <doctormo> highvoltage: Is there a meeting today? if so, what time?
[13:33] <highvoltage> doctormo: 20:00 UTC, 2pm EDT
[13:34] <doctormo> highvoltage: Have you had any further thoughts on what you want?
[13:36] <highvoltage> doctormo: a little, I'd like to get wider input though. I could tell you exactly what I'd think would be great, but in the end it's what would be good for our users that matter
[13:37] <doctormo> highvoltage: It's art, there are a few objective criteria, but what you're struggling with is all the subjectives.
[13:40] <highvoltage> doctormo: will talk again a bit later, I need to head off the office (will be back in around 20m)
[13:41] <doctormo> cure np
[13:41] <doctormo> sure
[14:48] <stgraber> mhall119: good idea indeed, adding myself to the list.
[17:03] <callumacrae> How would I go about setting up edubuntu so that it accesses stuff over a network, and uses login info and files from the server?
[17:34] <highvoltage> callumacrae: depends, are you planning on going diskless?
[17:35] <callumacrae> I've already got 100 computers, a good server, and a fairly bad network setup, everything running windoze
[17:35] <callumacrae> We're considering moving to edubuntu
[17:36] <callumacrae> I guess we could use LTSP, but the network setup isn't great
[17:36] <callumacrae> so it would need improvment
[17:37] <highvoltage> indeed, ltsp is not great over a bad network
[17:38] <highvoltage> I guess using samba for shares would be a good idea, especially since you have windows machines as well
[17:38] <callumacrae> We're getting rid of them
[17:39] <callumacrae> they're just too slow on these old computers
[17:39] <highvoltage> backuppc is usually a good idea for backups, unless you want to store user's home directories on the server. nfs would be good for that
[17:40] <highvoltage> pretty much everything is getting slow. web apps are getting huger by the day it seems
[17:40] <callumacrae> we upgraded to W7 from XP, that's when it died
[17:40] <highvoltage> ah :)
[17:42] <highvoltage> callumacrae: the channel varies in traffic, if you hang around most of your answers can be answered
[17:42] <callumacrae> thanks
[17:43] <highvoltage> callumacrae: you could use NIS+ or LDAP for centralized auth, LDAP is more secure and integrates with a lot more, NIS+ pretty much only gives you logins and has security issues
[17:43] <highvoltage> callumacrae: the ubuntu wiki has lots of information for all of this, and the edubuntu mailing lists is also a pretty good place to ask about this kind of stuff
[17:48] <callumacrae> thanks, I'll take a look
[18:32] <highvoltage> edubuntu meeting on #ubuntu-meeting in about half an hour
[18:45] <highvoltage> doctormo: are you around?
[18:45] <doctormo> highvoltage: I'm staying around for you my friend
[18:46] <highvoltage> doctormo: the edubuntu meeting is in around 15 minutes in #ubuntu-meeting. stgraber just told me that he can't make it due to other commitments, but the others should be there at least
[18:58] <highvoltage> time for edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting
[19:04] <hajour> hai all i will ask my questions when you are finished with the meeting :)
[19:04] <alkisg_web> hajour: you can ask now, and anyone that has time will see / answer them
[19:04] <alkisg_web> No need to wait till the meeting is over
[19:05] <hajour> yes but i don't want to disturb understand ?:)
[19:06] <alkisg_web> hajour: sure, I'm telling you that you don't disturb anything if you write here
[19:07] <callumacrae> The meeting is in another channel
[19:07] <hajour> ok:)
[19:07] <hajour> i have some health issues.so i am not so fast with writhing :)
[19:10] <hajour> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/hajour  << then you understand
[19:13] <alkisg_web> hajour: don't worry about your writing speed, take your time
[19:14] <hajour> ok i was wondering or edubuntu also support electronic schoolbords
[19:15] <hajour> and what it have for children with issues . reading and writing problems because they are on normal primary schools here in netherlands
[19:20] <callumacrae> I was wondering about the electronic boards, too
[19:21] <alkisg_web> I think there are some that support Ubuntu (and so Edubuntu as well), and the manufacturers provide drivers + software, but I don't remember the models
[19:23] <hajour> well this school have already 3 of that kind of schoolbords you see
[19:24] <hajour> and the director will go ask about that
[19:24] <hajour> i want to be good prepared
[19:25] <alkisg_web> You'll need their model then. Google for their model + ubuntu
[19:25] <alkisg_web> Or, once you find their model, ask in #ubuntu or here to see if anyone has used them
[19:25] <hajour> i don't no that yet.
[19:25] <hajour> ok
[19:26] <hajour> and my other question.
[19:26] <alkisg_web> I don't know enough about accessibility, but here's a start: http://projects.gnome.org/accessibility/
[19:27] <alkisg_web> Edubuntu uses gnome, so it also uses its accessibility infrastructure
[19:27] <hajour> if that is the option then i know  we have to hurry up with speechcontrol
[19:28] <hajour> because i am already in accessibility team
[19:28] <hajour> yes but gnome use more processor power and memory
[19:29] <hajour> many schools here in netherland have not new pc s
[19:29] <hajour> they now use on the moment windows from 2001
[19:30] <hajour> that says enough i think
[19:30] <alkisg_web> Here in Greece we also have PCs from 1998 :)
[19:30] <alkisg_web> We turned many of them to ubuntu / ltsp labs: http://goo.gl/maps/nOoQ
[19:31] <hajour> also the government is going to give again 300 million less money on the schools
[19:31] <highvoltage> doctormo: the competition-style also seems to attract a lot of "hey! let me hack something together in 60s and submit it!"
[19:31] <hajour> here also more older then that alkisg_web
[19:32] <alkisg_web> Well anything with 64MB RAM can be used as an LTSP client
[19:32] <hajour> if i succeed to get this school use edubuntu then the next will be easier
[19:33] <hajour> i will go ask all primary schools in this province and after that high schools but it has to be done good prepared and good
[19:34] <highvoltage> hajour: wow just read your wiki page and I think it's great that you want to get involved!
[19:34] <hajour> sorry for repeating myself
[19:34] <hajour> thank you highvoltage
[19:35] <hajour> also have read my sub page from accessibility?
[19:35] <doctormo> highvoltage: it's good for making concepts, i admit that.
[19:36] <doctormo> But we in the art team don't have a good site put together to allow people to contribute in that way
[19:36] <doctormo> Ont he understanding that a concept is a start, not a finish.
[19:36] <doctormo> And production isn't the same as picking something off a shelf. We need to collaborate, not just create a very large shelf of work to pick from.
[19:37] <highvoltage> hajour: not yet...
[19:37] <highvoltage> doctormo: yep, I pretty much 100% agree with you there
[19:37] <hajour> well take your time :) you are also in a meeting
[19:38] <hajour> if you are ready with the meeting i can tell some about a new project we are busy to begin with for deaf
[19:40] <hajour> i am also busy with set up a project for accessibility in form of a irc bot on the moment so i am quiet busy :)
[19:44] <highvoltage> hajour: have you talked to klaus knopper and his wife before? I'm not sure how involved they are in ubuntu at the moment, but klaus had a bunch of great ideas a few years back and even put together a distro for people who can't see (or see well)
[19:50] <hajour> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SpeechControl/Talks/2011-03-04_UDW
[19:50] <hajour> highvoltage,  ^
[19:51] <hajour> this go be spoken in UDS
[19:51] <hajour> i not yet met Klaus knopper
[19:52] <hajour> anyway i don't no who they are
[19:53] <callumacrae> How many schools actually use edubutu?
[19:53] <hajour> i think not many in netherland
[19:53] <hajour> but  that will go change
[19:54] <hajour> they are streaking now the teachers
[19:54] <hajour> because of to less money getting for to buy heat pc programs books enz
[19:54] <callumacrae> :)
[19:54] <hajour> so i had read it
[19:55] <hajour> i have called right away the director
[19:55] <hajour> that he could get ubuntu what is also linux
[19:55] <hajour> then he is interested
[19:56] <callumacrae> I'm trying to get my school to get Linux
[19:56] <callumacrae> It takes ten minutes to log in with the current (windoze) system
[19:56] <hajour> so i know  geither more info so i can get the school further over to lubuntu/edubuntu
[19:57] <hajour> but the school wants a written piece where is standing the school is allowed to use ubuntu/edubuntu XD
[19:57] <callumacrae> XD
[19:57] <hajour> i think he not really can believe its free anyway
[19:58] <mhall119> hajour: does it need to be pn physical paper, or is having it in writing online enough?
[19:58] <hajour> but if he wants it he can get it i ask just to 1 off the counsel of jono
[19:58] <callumacrae> IT techies will need training
[19:58] <hajour> paper
[19:58] <mhall119> hajour: shipit.ubuntu.com CDs will have it printed on them
[19:59] <hajour> but i know mhall119  that other schools want have that to
[19:59] <hajour> it need to be with signature
[19:59] <mhall119> who's signature?
[19:59] <hajour> i dont no lol
[19:59] <hajour> you tell me
[19:59] <hajour> its odd situation
[19:59] <mhall119> FYI System->About Ubuntu will say the same thing, that it's free to use/copy/modify/share
[20:00] <Nubae> cool possibility for accessability would be getting an autoreader to read ebooks to voice
[20:00] <Nubae> scanner -> ocr -> voice
[20:00] <highvoltage> hajour: written permission isn't hard to do :)
[20:01] <mhall119> Nubae: http://projects.gnome.org/outreach/a11y/tasks/evince/
[20:01] <callumacrae> hajour: Send them a copy of the license
[20:01] <hajour> just have say it true Nubae
[20:01] <callumacrae> What license does it use?
[20:01] <hajour> to speechcontrol team
[20:02] <highvoltage> callumacrae: edubuntu is made out of many different smaller projects that uses a bunch of different licenses
[20:02] <hajour> GPL3
[20:03] <hajour> but it cant be me who write it highvoltage
[20:03] <highvoltage> yep, that's one of them. GPLv3, GPLv2, MIT, Apache and BSD licenses are very widely used
[20:03] <Nubae> I remember I wrote a script that helped with autoreading a while back, ocropus and tesseract I believe
[20:03] <hajour> i have said i have ask on my boss .else he would not listen .because i am a stupid housewive
[20:04] <Nubae> wasn't really good enough at the time, perhaps things have changed?
[20:04] <mhall119> hajour: don't let anybody tell you that you're stupid
[20:04] <Nubae> only stupid answers, no stupid questions
[20:05] <hajour> well mhall119  society is doing that in netherland
[20:05] <mhall119> :(
[20:05] <hajour> i am already fighting 18 years to have a simple job
[20:06] <hajour> its alright i am used to it after all this time mhall119
[20:07] <hajour> after 3 burn outs because of stress to have no change on jobs running against big walls from government i have learned to just have peace with it
[20:08] <hajour> mhall119, ^
[20:09] <callumacrae> How good would the server have to be for 100 computers and that thing where the 100 computers can be diskless?
[20:09] <hajour> Nubae,  i need info in short simple lines with links.so i can read it better
[20:10] <hajour> i can give my email to you mhall119
[20:10] <Nubae> callumacrae ooph... I'd make it quad or dual core at least and 12 gigs+
[20:10] <Nubae> ram
[20:11] <callumacrae> Okay :)
[20:11] <callumacrae> It'll cost less than 100 windoze licenses :D
[20:11] <Nubae> for sure
[20:12] <Nubae> I did the ROI for a local school recently, when they said... they really want win 7 + office +visio for 60 cpus
[20:12] <Nubae> they quickly decided against it
[20:13] <hajour> well Nubae  if the schools go use it then later the kids use it at home to.children are the grown ups from the future
[20:14] <Nubae> mhall119 hmmm so that's 1 k per month then for that... sounds kinda neat, depending on the hours required
[20:14] <hajour> the problem is that schools have a duty to have dyslectic programs
[20:15] <Nubae> hajour sure, thats always a problem, as a teacher u have to teach not for the smartest kid in the class and not for the slowest
[20:15] <hajour> i think i go to speechcontrol to give my daily pep talk again :P
[20:15] <hajour> it has to be suite for all kids
[20:16] <hajour> so if we have a good working speech program we win much more users for ubuntu/edubuntu enz
[20:17] <Nubae> sure thing
[20:18] <hajour> we from speechcontrol do our best to succeed and so fast as possible.we already trying to make open mary finisesd .if we succeed it will possible still come in natty
[20:19] <hajour> we only coming a little short to reach that on a few programmers
[20:20] <hajour> so i go busy now to search further
[20:20] <hajour> mhall119,  can i pm you to give my email?
[20:57] <mhall119> hajour: what for?
[21:03] <hajour> for info links from edubuntu you said yes on it mhall119 time back
[21:03] <hajour> or not?
[21:04] <hajour> i have a short break on the moment i am on 21 channels 9 pm s