[04:00] hi, all [06:19] Good morning everyone [06:21] Still having problems with booting up and logging into user accounts via iTalc. Wakeonlan has been enabled in all networked pcs, and can boot them up using etherwake. Any help? [06:24] Anyone? [07:18] Having problems with booting up and logging into user accounts via iTalc. Wakeonlan has been enabled in all networked pcs, and can boot them up using etherwake. Any help? [08:45] Having problems with booting up and logging into user accounts via iTalc. Wakeonlan has been enabled in all networked pcs, and can boot them up using etherwake. Any help? [09:18] Hmmmmm....seems like the edubuntu channel is for parking ONLY...now where do I pass Go so I can collect $200?? Thanx so much for all your tons of help, don't know what I would do without it, except maybe commit a hanous crime against humanity!!!! [12:22] hey im currently working on a project about edubuntu for my class project and i was wondering is there an application list i can see that might be installed or what the safe guards are against bad websites and so on [12:23] i cant see it on the website [12:24] oh hey i think i found it [12:32] stgraber: http://justanothertriager.wordpress.com/2011/02/09/have-an-interesting-project-you-want-to-talk-about/ sandbox might be a good thing to talk about [13:17] highvoltage: Is there a meeting today? if so, what time? [13:33] doctormo: 20:00 UTC, 2pm EDT [13:34] highvoltage: Have you had any further thoughts on what you want? [13:36] doctormo: a little, I'd like to get wider input though. I could tell you exactly what I'd think would be great, but in the end it's what would be good for our users that matter [13:37] highvoltage: It's art, there are a few objective criteria, but what you're struggling with is all the subjectives. [13:40] doctormo: will talk again a bit later, I need to head off the office (will be back in around 20m) [13:41] cure np [13:41] sure [14:48] mhall119: good idea indeed, adding myself to the list. [17:03] How would I go about setting up edubuntu so that it accesses stuff over a network, and uses login info and files from the server? [17:34] callumacrae: depends, are you planning on going diskless? [17:35] I've already got 100 computers, a good server, and a fairly bad network setup, everything running windoze [17:35] We're considering moving to edubuntu [17:36] I guess we could use LTSP, but the network setup isn't great [17:36] so it would need improvment [17:37] indeed, ltsp is not great over a bad network [17:38] I guess using samba for shares would be a good idea, especially since you have windows machines as well [17:38] We're getting rid of them [17:39] they're just too slow on these old computers [17:39] backuppc is usually a good idea for backups, unless you want to store user's home directories on the server. nfs would be good for that [17:40] pretty much everything is getting slow. web apps are getting huger by the day it seems [17:40] we upgraded to W7 from XP, that's when it died [17:40] ah :) [17:42] callumacrae: the channel varies in traffic, if you hang around most of your answers can be answered [17:42] thanks [17:43] callumacrae: you could use NIS+ or LDAP for centralized auth, LDAP is more secure and integrates with a lot more, NIS+ pretty much only gives you logins and has security issues [17:43] callumacrae: the ubuntu wiki has lots of information for all of this, and the edubuntu mailing lists is also a pretty good place to ask about this kind of stuff [17:48] thanks, I'll take a look [18:32] edubuntu meeting on #ubuntu-meeting in about half an hour [18:45] doctormo: are you around? [18:45] highvoltage: I'm staying around for you my friend [18:46] doctormo: the edubuntu meeting is in around 15 minutes in #ubuntu-meeting. stgraber just told me that he can't make it due to other commitments, but the others should be there at least [18:58] time for edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting [19:04] hai all i will ask my questions when you are finished with the meeting :) [19:04] hajour: you can ask now, and anyone that has time will see / answer them [19:04] No need to wait till the meeting is over [19:05] yes but i don't want to disturb understand ?:) [19:06] hajour: sure, I'm telling you that you don't disturb anything if you write here [19:07] The meeting is in another channel [19:07] ok:) [19:07] i have some health issues.so i am not so fast with writhing :) [19:10] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/hajour << then you understand [19:13] hajour: don't worry about your writing speed, take your time [19:14] ok i was wondering or edubuntu also support electronic schoolbords [19:15] and what it have for children with issues . reading and writing problems because they are on normal primary schools here in netherlands [19:20] I was wondering about the electronic boards, too [19:21] I think there are some that support Ubuntu (and so Edubuntu as well), and the manufacturers provide drivers + software, but I don't remember the models [19:23] well this school have already 3 of that kind of schoolbords you see [19:24] and the director will go ask about that [19:24] i want to be good prepared [19:25] You'll need their model then. Google for their model + ubuntu [19:25] Or, once you find their model, ask in #ubuntu or here to see if anyone has used them [19:25] i don't no that yet. [19:25] ok [19:26] and my other question. [19:26] I don't know enough about accessibility, but here's a start: http://projects.gnome.org/accessibility/ [19:27] Edubuntu uses gnome, so it also uses its accessibility infrastructure [19:27] if that is the option then i know we have to hurry up with speechcontrol [19:28] because i am already in accessibility team [19:28] yes but gnome use more processor power and memory [19:29] many schools here in netherland have not new pc s [19:29] they now use on the moment windows from 2001 [19:30] that says enough i think [19:30] Here in Greece we also have PCs from 1998 :) [19:30] We turned many of them to ubuntu / ltsp labs: http://goo.gl/maps/nOoQ [19:31] also the government is going to give again 300 million less money on the schools [19:31] doctormo: the competition-style also seems to attract a lot of "hey! let me hack something together in 60s and submit it!" [19:31] here also more older then that alkisg_web [19:32] Well anything with 64MB RAM can be used as an LTSP client [19:32] if i succeed to get this school use edubuntu then the next will be easier [19:33] i will go ask all primary schools in this province and after that high schools but it has to be done good prepared and good [19:34] hajour: wow just read your wiki page and I think it's great that you want to get involved! [19:34] sorry for repeating myself [19:34] thank you highvoltage [19:35] also have read my sub page from accessibility? [19:35] highvoltage: it's good for making concepts, i admit that. [19:36] But we in the art team don't have a good site put together to allow people to contribute in that way [19:36] Ont he understanding that a concept is a start, not a finish. [19:36] And production isn't the same as picking something off a shelf. We need to collaborate, not just create a very large shelf of work to pick from. [19:37] hajour: not yet... [19:37] doctormo: yep, I pretty much 100% agree with you there [19:37] well take your time :) you are also in a meeting [19:38] if you are ready with the meeting i can tell some about a new project we are busy to begin with for deaf [19:40] i am also busy with set up a project for accessibility in form of a irc bot on the moment so i am quiet busy :) [19:44] hajour: have you talked to klaus knopper and his wife before? I'm not sure how involved they are in ubuntu at the moment, but klaus had a bunch of great ideas a few years back and even put together a distro for people who can't see (or see well) [19:50] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SpeechControl/Talks/2011-03-04_UDW [19:50] highvoltage, ^ [19:51] this go be spoken in UDS [19:51] i not yet met Klaus knopper [19:52] anyway i don't no who they are [19:53] How many schools actually use edubutu? [19:53] i think not many in netherland [19:53] but that will go change [19:54] they are streaking now the teachers [19:54] because of to less money getting for to buy heat pc programs books enz [19:54] :) [19:54] so i had read it [19:55] i have called right away the director [19:55] that he could get ubuntu what is also linux [19:55] then he is interested [19:56] I'm trying to get my school to get Linux [19:56] It takes ten minutes to log in with the current (windoze) system [19:56] so i know geither more info so i can get the school further over to lubuntu/edubuntu [19:57] but the school wants a written piece where is standing the school is allowed to use ubuntu/edubuntu XD [19:57] XD [19:57] i think he not really can believe its free anyway [19:58] hajour: does it need to be pn physical paper, or is having it in writing online enough? [19:58] but if he wants it he can get it i ask just to 1 off the counsel of jono [19:58] IT techies will need training [19:58] paper [19:58] hajour: shipit.ubuntu.com CDs will have it printed on them [19:59] but i know mhall119 that other schools want have that to [19:59] it need to be with signature [19:59] who's signature? [19:59] i dont no lol [19:59] you tell me [19:59] its odd situation [19:59] FYI System->About Ubuntu will say the same thing, that it's free to use/copy/modify/share [20:00] cool possibility for accessability would be getting an autoreader to read ebooks to voice [20:00] scanner -> ocr -> voice [20:00] hajour: written permission isn't hard to do :) [20:01] Nubae: http://projects.gnome.org/outreach/a11y/tasks/evince/ [20:01] hajour: Send them a copy of the license [20:01] just have say it true Nubae [20:01] What license does it use? [20:01] to speechcontrol team [20:02] callumacrae: edubuntu is made out of many different smaller projects that uses a bunch of different licenses [20:02] GPL3 [20:03] but it cant be me who write it highvoltage [20:03] yep, that's one of them. GPLv3, GPLv2, MIT, Apache and BSD licenses are very widely used [20:03] I remember I wrote a script that helped with autoreading a while back, ocropus and tesseract I believe [20:03] i have said i have ask on my boss .else he would not listen .because i am a stupid housewive [20:04] wasn't really good enough at the time, perhaps things have changed? [20:04] hajour: don't let anybody tell you that you're stupid [20:04] only stupid answers, no stupid questions [20:05] well mhall119 society is doing that in netherland [20:05] :( [20:05] i am already fighting 18 years to have a simple job [20:06] its alright i am used to it after all this time mhall119 [20:07] after 3 burn outs because of stress to have no change on jobs running against big walls from government i have learned to just have peace with it [20:08] mhall119, ^ [20:09] How good would the server have to be for 100 computers and that thing where the 100 computers can be diskless? [20:09] Nubae, i need info in short simple lines with links.so i can read it better [20:10] i can give my email to you mhall119 [20:10] callumacrae ooph... I'd make it quad or dual core at least and 12 gigs+ [20:10] ram [20:11] Okay :) [20:11] It'll cost less than 100 windoze licenses :D [20:11] for sure [20:12] I did the ROI for a local school recently, when they said... they really want win 7 + office +visio for 60 cpus [20:12] they quickly decided against it [20:13] well Nubae if the schools go use it then later the kids use it at home to.children are the grown ups from the future [20:14] mhall119 hmmm so that's 1 k per month then for that... sounds kinda neat, depending on the hours required [20:14] the problem is that schools have a duty to have dyslectic programs [20:15] hajour sure, thats always a problem, as a teacher u have to teach not for the smartest kid in the class and not for the slowest [20:15] i think i go to speechcontrol to give my daily pep talk again :P [20:15] it has to be suite for all kids [20:16] so if we have a good working speech program we win much more users for ubuntu/edubuntu enz [20:17] sure thing [20:18] we from speechcontrol do our best to succeed and so fast as possible.we already trying to make open mary finisesd .if we succeed it will possible still come in natty [20:19] we only coming a little short to reach that on a few programmers [20:20] so i go busy now to search further [20:20] mhall119, can i pm you to give my email? [20:57] hajour: what for? [21:03] for info links from edubuntu you said yes on it mhall119 time back [21:03] or not? [21:04] i have a short break on the moment i am on 21 channels 9 pm s