[00:33] <ScottK> Riddell: If the versioned boost build-dep is the only change, then I'd sync it.
[00:34] <ScottK> ari-tczew: ^^^
[00:34] <ScottK> shadeslayer: ~around now.
[00:35] <ari-tczew> ScottK: there is delta: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libktorrent/+bug/713790/+attachment/1836012/+files/debian-ubuntu.debdiff
[00:35] <ScottK> ari-tczew: I'd say fine for sync, but I don't have time for a detailed review.
[00:36] <ari-tczew> ScottK: I'm too.
[00:36] <ari-tczew> Riddell: ^^
[07:31] <jussi> Riddell: ping
[08:04] <nigelb> Quintasan: ping
[09:32] <debfx> Riddell: you haven't bumped the package name in libindicate-qt1.symbols so the packages still depend on libindicate-qt0
[09:57] <Riddell> debfx: aah
[09:57] <Riddell> hi jussi 
[09:59] <jussi> Riddell: I followed up on the work item: "Get *buntu logos onto loco.ubuntu.com footer" But they are looking for an example, have you any idea where to find one? 
[09:59] <Riddell> jussi: an example of what?
[09:59] <Riddell> the logo?
[10:00] <jussi> some other footer that includes the logo's
[10:00] <jussi> bug 714487
[10:07] <tsimpson> jussi: ubuntu.com
[10:07] <Riddell> jussi: I think the logo website has changed design since we looked at it during UDS
[10:08] <jussi> oh
[10:08] <Riddell> s/logo/loco/
[10:08] <kubotu> Riddell meant: "jussi: I think the loco website has changed design since we looked at it during UDS"
[10:08] <Riddell> I'm not sure what I want from locos but some way of ensuring that Kubuntu is represented and supported in each loco
[10:12] <valorie> I think that might involve a brain transplant in the leadership
[10:16] <Riddell> valorie: which leadership?
[10:16] <jussi> valorie: no, they are quite willing to include it, but just looking for ways.
[10:16] <valorie> I was thinking more of the local leadership
[10:16] <valorie> people just seem to have tunnel vision
[10:17] <valorie> leadership from Canonical/main ubuntu website would definitely help
[10:53] <jussi> Riddell: btw, how is the printer work going? do we have anyone doing that? 
[10:53] <Riddell> jussi: not really, dantii has his unfinished tools and system-config-printer-kde doesn't have anyone working on it
[10:54] <jussi> aww, thats sad. 
[10:54] <jussi> Perhaps we might identify 3 or 4 areas we really want done this cycle (from the list) and highlight them in a blog post ?
[10:55] <valorie> can we participate in GSoc?
[10:56] <valorie> they want more organizations this year
[10:56] <valorie> or at least push some of our "most wanted" as KDE projects?
[10:59] <valorie> ack, nighters all
[10:59] <Riddell> jussi: can do, although for printing as I say we have two avenues and I don't know which is best to follow
[10:59] <jussi> valorie: perhaps, but its a bit far away, Im thinking things that can be done for natty
[10:59] <Riddell> night valorie 
[11:00] <jussi> Riddell: ok, what are they?
[11:01] <Riddell> dantii's unfinished tools and system-config-printer-kde/printer-applet
[11:20] <Riddell> apachelogger, JontheEchidna, NCommander, nixternal, ScottK: remember to sign up for a debfx grilling http://doodle.com/sbufw9rpaq7vh9i3
[11:56] <NCommander> Riddell: a what?
[11:57] <Riddell> NCommander: his kubuntu-dev application (if you aren't feeling very kubuntu-dev-ish currently feel free to ignore)
[12:24] <shadeslayer> ScottK: need help with DSO stuff ... iirc you've dealt with it before right?
[12:26] <debfx> shadeslayer: is it about dcmtk?
[12:27] <shadeslayer> debfx: yes
[12:27] <shadeslayer> it somehow needs to be linked manually
[12:27] <shadeslayer> but i quite get how to do that 
[12:29] <debfx> shadeslayer: why do we care about dcmtk?
[12:29] <shadeslayer> debfx: koffice needs it
[12:30] <shadeslayer> Riddell: i've talked to Andrea about the LP bug and he say's it will be fixed for sure in the final release
[12:30] <shadeslayer> somehow the issue is now in rekonq itself
[12:31] <shadeslayer> since the same thing in kwebkitpart works
[12:39] <debfx> shadeslayer: adding -Wl,--no-as-needed to LDFLAGS should work around the problem
[12:39] <shadeslayer> ah ... 
[12:39] <shadeslayer> debfx: thanks! i'll look into this in a few minutes
[12:40] <debfx> but we could just ignore it since it's only an optional dependency and the package is a mess (upstream doesn't even support building shared libraries)
[12:47] <Riddell> neon could do with an obvious way of making you aware it's a neon session, I just had a battle wondering why NM plasmoid wouldn't load without realising I was in a neon session
[12:48] <shadeslayer> haha :P
[12:48] <shadeslayer> Riddell: you'll need to compile the plasmoid
[12:48] <shadeslayer> but
[12:49] <shadeslayer> i agree
[12:49] <shadeslayer> Riddell: any suggestions?
[12:49] <Riddell> change the wallpaper somehow, or the logo in the kickoff menu maybe
[12:50] <shadeslayer> hmm ...
[12:50] <shadeslayer> we could ask for a new wallpaper for neon :)
[12:50] <Riddell> I don't think it needs a fancy wallpaper, I think it needs the normal wallpaper with "NEON" written in large letter on top of it
[12:51] <shadeslayer> i guess yeah
[12:51] <shadeslayer> works for me ...
[12:51] <shadeslayer> Quintasan_: yofel_ ^^
[12:51] <shadeslayer> Riddell: kwin working fine for you?
[12:51] <Riddell> in Neon?  yes it was
[12:51] <shadeslayer> hmm
[12:51] <shadeslayer> maybe i need to install the upgrades :P
[12:52] <shadeslayer> also
[12:52] <shadeslayer> i'll upload a rebuild of ktorrent in a few minutes
[12:54] <shadeslayer> Riddell: any opinions on new rekonq alpha?
[12:54] <shadeslayer> ( please dont mention the bookmark bug :P )
[13:12]  * ryanakca wonders how difficult it would be to get per-package upload permission for packages I have DM-Upload-Allowed turned on in Debian...
[13:29] <Riddell> shadeslayer: works for me
[13:29] <Riddell> I haven't noticed much change so far
[13:29] <shadeslayer> User Agent is new :P
[13:30] <Riddell> oh aye
[13:31] <shadeslayer> and the context menu's were trimmed down
[13:33] <Riddell> still has separate Copy Image and Copy Image Location, which konqueror managed to merge years ago
[13:34] <afiestas> uh, in natty: konversation : Depends: libindicate-qt0 (>= 0.2.5.91) but 0.2.5-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[13:34] <shadeslayer> ih
[13:34] <Riddell> afiestas: known bug
[13:34] <shadeslayer> Riddell: i dont see copy image anywhere
[13:34] <afiestas> Riddell: WIP ?
[13:34] <shadeslayer> wait
[13:34] <shadeslayer> rather copy image location ( in konqueror
[13:34] <Riddell> afiestas: yes new indicate-qt uploaded, I'll rebuild the rest now
[13:34] <afiestas> Riddell: oks, thanks
[13:34] <Riddell> shadeslayer: exactly, it does both in one
[13:35] <shadeslayer> oh
[13:35] <shadeslayer> quite interesting
[13:35]  * shadeslayer will look into this tonight
[13:36] <Riddell> shadeslayer: Qt copy can have multiple items with different mimeypes, so one image/png and one text/plain
[13:37] <shadeslayer> righto
[13:37] <shadeslayer> i read up on KAuth stuff as well
[13:38] <shadeslayer> debfx: http://paste.kde.org/4374
[13:38] <shadeslayer> i have no idea what's going on there @_@
[13:39] <shadeslayer> some file seems to disappear 
[13:44] <shadeslayer> bbiab
[13:55] <agateau> Riddell: hi! what's the status regarding the new libindicate-qt?
[13:57] <agateau> Riddell: you are right about removing  kubuntu_02_fix_text_overlap_in_systemtray.diff  from plasma-widget-message-indicator btw
[13:58] <Riddell> agateau: it's all uploaded but I messed up a bit on the transition, the depending packages are rebuilding now to fix it
[13:58] <agateau> Riddell: great, thanks
[14:06] <ari-tczew> Riddell: so libktorrent can be synced?
[14:06] <Riddell> ari-tczew: oh aye sorry, what's the bug number again?
[14:06] <ari-tczew> Riddell: bug 713790
[14:06] <shadeslayer> btw how does one use -lpthread in debian/rules ?
[14:06] <ari-tczew> shadeslayer: do you want fix FTBFS with binutils-gold?
[14:07] <shadeslayer> LIBS = -lpthread nameofso
[14:07] <shadeslayer> ari-tczew: yes
[14:07] <shadeslayer> ari-tczew: i've added LDFLAGS = -Wl --no-as-needed
[14:07] <shadeslayer> but it still fails
[14:08] <ari-tczew> shadeslayer: hmm. you should patch Makefile.in
[14:08] <ari-tczew> and .am
[14:08] <shadeslayer> :S
[14:08] <ari-tczew> no d/rules
[14:09] <ari-tczew> shadeslayer: check doko related-packages how he fix ftbfs
[14:09] <Riddell> dcmtk has a nasty build system, needs patching Makefile.in
[14:09] <shadeslayer> ok
[14:09] <ari-tczew> Riddell: how to check whether it's a nasty build  system?
[14:11] <Riddell> ari-tczew: by looking at the souce and going "is this using cmake" if no -> nasty build system
[14:11] <shadeslayer> heh
[14:11] <Riddell> just for confusion dcmtk does have cmake files around but it doesn't use them
[14:11] <shadeslayer> dcmtk uses configure :/
[14:11] <Riddell> but it's not using autoconf, only automake, so it's taking a nasty build system and only using half of it, that makes it twice as nasty
[14:11] <shadeslayer> ari-tczew: what's the source name for doko pacakges?
[14:12] <ari-tczew> shadeslayer: https://launchpad.net/~doko/+uploaded-packages follow for changes in packages
[14:13] <shadeslayer> seems i'm all out of bandwidth already
[14:13] <ari-tczew> shadeslayer: this guy also has fixed some ftbfs: https://launchpad.net/~udienz/+uploaded-packages
[14:13] <ari-tczew> shadeslayer: you don't need to download full source...
[14:13] <shadeslayer> righto
[14:13] <shadeslayer> ari-tczew: i'm just saying :)
[14:13] <ari-tczew> just look on launchpad how package has fixed
[14:13] <shadeslayer> i bet it's Norton  on the desktop eating up all my bandwidth
[14:32] <debfx> shadeslayer: you need to add "-Wl,--no-as-needed" (comma instead of space) 
[14:33] <shadeslayer> i did that :)
[14:33] <shadeslayer> it's correct in debian/rules
[14:33] <shadeslayer> i wrote it wrong here :P
[14:34] <shadeslayer> debfx: make[3]: *** No rule to make target `../../config/include/dcmtk/config/cfunix.h', needed by `oflist.o'.  Stop.
[14:34] <debfx> have you changed anything else?
[14:35] <shadeslayer> nope
[14:35] <ari-tczew> so this is next ftbfs to fix
[14:35] <debfx> 3.6.0 built fine for me with the LDFLAGS change
[14:35] <shadeslayer> yep
[14:36] <shadeslayer> O_O
[14:36] <shadeslayer> weirdness
[14:37] <shadeslayer> ok lemme clean it out and see
[14:38] <shadeslayer> huh ... builds now :/
[14:40] <shadeslayer> Riddell: does http://osdir.com/ml/linux.debian.devel.dpkg.bugs/2006-08/msg00123.html work for you in rekonq?
[14:47] <Riddell> shadeslayer: nope
[14:51] <shadeslayer> i fear i may have introduced a regression .... or maybe KIO is sucky
[14:59] <ari-tczew> Riddell: I'll ask you for ktorrent merge sponsorship when my pbuilder will pull libktorrent from archive, ok?
[15:01] <Riddell> ari-tczew: sure
[15:42] <debfx> ScottK: do python modules (without native code) that are compatible with python 2 and 3 need a separate package for python3?
[17:01] <apachelogger> again no jt :/
[17:05] <Riddell> no what?
[17:06] <apachelogger> jontheechidna
[17:06] <Riddell> ah
[17:06] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: do we haz news on phonon in qtwebkit?
[17:31] <shadeslayer> debfx: what do i do about this : dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: symbol _ZTVSt9basic_iosIcSt11char_traitsIcEE used by debian/libdcmtk1/usr/lib/libofstd.so.1.0.0 found in none of the libraries.
[17:31] <shadeslayer> the build log is full of them
[17:32] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: nope ... it seems i'm far too busy with Project Neon + rekonq + sekret project
[17:33] <debfx> shadeslayer: ignore it, see http://bugs.debian.org/510120
[17:33]  * shadeslayer looks
[17:35] <debfx> if you feel super motivated you can also fix the build system :)
[17:36] <debfx> i.e. link with -Wl,--no-undefined and add all required libs
[18:10] <Riddell> sekret project sounds interesting
[18:14] <Quintasan> I bet it's a codename for doing nothing ;)
[18:15] <Riddell> no that's "I have exams"
[18:17] <Quintasan> That gives him two excuses for doing nothing
[18:17] <Quintasan> One > two :P
[18:17] <Quintasan> derp
[18:17] <Quintasan> Two > one
[18:19] <debfx> I hope it's not a math exam :P
[18:20]  * Quintasan passed his math stuff with a B
[18:21] <ScottK> debfx: Yes.  We want Python/Python3 to be separate at runtime.
[18:23] <shadeslayer> haha 
[18:23] <shadeslayer> debfx: no thanks ... im already scared of configure scripts and what not 
[18:23] <shadeslayer> Riddell: it's not so sekret .. http://blogs.forum.nokia.com/blog/sivan-greenbergs-forum-nokia-blog/2010/11/07/kde-ovi-qt-meego-syncml
[18:24] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: and i have exam from the 23rd of this month :P
[18:24] <shadeslayer> s/exam/exams
[18:24] <shadeslayer> Sorry, due to database inconsistencies the packages site is down for maintenance and rebuild of its tree. This is expected to take a while, we are working on it and are very sorry for any inconvenience caused.
[18:24] <shadeslayer> :S
[18:26] <shadeslayer> oh also KAuth
[18:27]  * shadeslayer is going to be up all night today 
[19:03] <debfx> ScottK: ok, do you have some time to review a package? I couldn't find much documentation on how build such a package
[19:03] <ScottK> debfx: If not today, I should tomorrow.
[19:04] <ScottK> If you want an example, pyyaml supports Python3.
[19:07] <debfx> ScottK: this is the package: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/pyudev_0.8-0ubuntu1.dsc
[19:08] <debfx> ScottK: what does XB-Python-Version do?
[19:08] <ScottK> debfx: It lists in the release file what versions of Python the package was built for.  It's obsolete and should be removed.
[19:12] <ScottK> debfx: Looks reasonable to me.
[19:18] <debfx> ScottK: ok, thanks. The dh buildsystem doesn't support python3, right?
[19:18] <ScottK> debfx: I'm not sure.
[20:08] <afiestas> Riddell: Try Kamoso 2.0 git, it should fit your netbook now
[20:30] <genii-around> On 64 bit 11.04 here, kubuntu PPAs. apt-listchanges tells me there is no changelog for kdepim. Is one not being kept?
[20:31] <shadeslayer> genii-around: probably because PPA changelogs are not handled the same wasy as official archive ones
[20:32] <genii-around> shadeslayer: OK, thanks
[20:41] <bambee> hey
[20:41] <shadeslayer> bambee: \o
[20:46] <shadeslayer> Riddell: dcmtk done : https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+packages
[20:55] <JontheEchidna> kde bug 259333 is fun times
[20:55] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: apachelogger is hunting for you, hide!
[20:55] <JontheEchidna> I know, I stalk you guys on irclogs.ubuntu.com
[20:56] <JontheEchidna> the overbearing IT at my college block most every port except port 80, so I cannot irc nor git pull/push
[20:57] <JontheEchidna> but I am always watching ಠ_ಠ
[20:58] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: fancy talking at ubuntu developer week?
[20:58] <JontheEchidna> is it that time again already?
[20:59] <shadeslayer> bambee: kdebase ( it's called kdepasswd )
[20:59] <bambee> ok thanks
[21:00] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: yus
[21:00] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: anything in particular that needs talking about?
[21:00] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: kubuntu development
[21:00] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you could talk about ninja foo
[21:01] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: but i want to talk about Neon
[21:01] <shadeslayer> with Quintasan
[21:01] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ever heard of syncevolution?
[21:04] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what stops you from having 2 talks?
[21:04] <apachelogger> also I have not heared no nothing
[21:04]  * apachelogger is hacking vlc stuff
[21:04] <shadeslayer> hmm
[21:05] <shadeslayer> when is the talk supposed to be held?
[21:06] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: some free slot
[21:06] <apachelogger> see wiki page
[21:06]  * shadeslayer gogoduck's it
[21:07] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: hacking VLC? Like writing in native Blu-Ray support?
[21:07] <DarkwingDuck> :P:P
[21:07] <apachelogger> ...
[21:07] <apachelogger> if only you knew :P
[21:08] <DarkwingDuck> I hate not having native Blu-Ray support
[21:08] <apachelogger> ...
[21:08] <apachelogger> if only you knew :P :P :P :P
[21:08] <DarkwingDuck> Wait...
[21:08] <DarkwingDuck> You are? 
[21:08] <apachelogger> no
[21:08] <DarkwingDuck> I will join the church of Sitter if you are... Oh :(
[21:09] <shadeslayer> Church of Sitter <- LOL
[21:09] <DarkwingDuck> :)
[21:09] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what would you say if i made your N900 sync stuff with KDE PIM AND with cloud stuff like the Ovi store?
[21:09] <DarkwingDuck> Looks lie England will win this one.
[21:10] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: and regarding UDW, i'll finalize a time tommorow 
[21:11] <shadeslayer> sigh ... i should also work on my Kubuntu Dev application  and post to ML
[21:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: would be very nice
[21:12] <shadeslayer> what kind of insane times have you choosen? O_O
[21:12] <shadeslayer> 4.30 AM
[21:12] <shadeslayer> @_@
[21:14] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: talk to dholbach he can help you get a more convenient slot if possible at all
[21:15] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: not that ... i'm talking about the Kubuntu Meeting
[21:16] <apachelogger> oh
[21:16] <apachelogger> what meeting?
[21:17] <DarkwingDuck> Kubuntu Meeting?
[21:17] <apachelogger> my gmail is borken
[21:17] <DarkwingDuck> I must have missed an email
[21:23] <debfx> shadeslayer: I didn't you know you were going to apply
[21:23] <shadeslayer> debfx: i'm thinking of applying
[21:24] <shadeslayer> will decide till tomorrow :P
[21:24]  * shadeslayer is hungry now
[21:26] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you needs minion first
[21:26] <apachelogger> debfx: you too
[21:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: tazz is my minion
[21:27] <apachelogger> I wonder if tazz thinks so too :P
[21:29] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i certainly hope so .. ^_^
[21:33] <apachelogger> meaning you do not know :P
[21:34] <debfx> JontheEchidna: you could use freenode's webchat interface
[21:34] <JontheEchidna> I think I've tried that
[21:35]  * apachelogger starts writing QtVlc
[21:38] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: behind a proxy?
[21:38] <JontheEchidna> I could try a port 80 proxy I suppose
[21:38] <shadeslayer> my college has port 8080 open and i just ssh into my laptop from college and do stuff
[21:38] <shadeslayer> and if i can't do that, i use the web interface
[21:39] <shadeslayer> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/59511828/cgroup_patch << ^_^
[21:39] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: run your ssh at home on port 80 :P
[21:39] <shadeslayer> see ^^ :P
[21:40]  * shadeslayer listens to some Pink Floyd
[21:40] <apachelogger> that script is all sorts of fun
[21:40] <apachelogger> especially the comments
[21:40] <apachelogger> reminds me of java
[21:40] <shadeslayer> haha :P
[21:40] <shadeslayer> i just applied it
[21:40]  * apachelogger abandons all hope for getting anywhere with coding today and decides to spend the rest of the evening with pizza and telly
[21:41] <shadeslayer> let's see what happens
[21:43] <shadeslayer> ~np
[21:43] <kubotu> shadeslayer_ listened to "Hot Like Sauce Rustified Remix" by Pretty Lights [Unreleased 2010 Remixes] 3 days ago; -- see http://www.last.fm/user/shadeslayer_ for more
[21:43] <shadeslayer> @_@
[21:43] <shadeslayer> ~np
[21:43] <kubotu> shadeslayer_ listened to "Kanye West All Of The Lights Remix" by Pretty Lights [Unreleased 2010 Remixes] 8 seconds ago; -- see http://www.last.fm/user/shadeslayer_ for more
[21:44] <shadeslayer> ok time for bed
[21:44] <shadeslayer> night all
[21:44]  * shadeslayer looks at the time and freaks out
[21:45] <yofel> gn
[22:10] <ulysses> apachelogger: I switched from Raster to Default/XRender, the desktop effects still suspended and cannot be activated
[22:11] <triune> [17:08] <triune> I'm trying to solve a KDE bug [17:08] <triune> and I need to identify what component Kubuntu ships in their distro [17:08] <triune> from this bug report comment #1 [17:08] <triune> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=265835#c1
[22:11] <triune> sorry for the sloppy post :X
[22:12] <triune> anyone know how i can identify what component kubuntu ships with?
[22:13] <maco> triune: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/maverick/kubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.manifest
[22:15] <triune> would this be the right answer gtk2-engines-qtcurve 1.5.2-1ubuntu3 ?
[22:15] <maco> probably
[22:16] <triune> Thanks, I'll mention that to the KDE guys and wee what they think
[22:16] <triune> *see
[23:06] <afiestas__> http://wstaw.org/m/2011/02/10/quickFormat.png
[23:06] <afiestas__> what do you think?
[23:07] <afiestas__> Riddell: ↑