[00:33] Riddell: If the versioned boost build-dep is the only change, then I'd sync it. [00:34] ari-tczew: ^^^ [00:34] shadeslayer: ~around now. [00:35] ScottK: there is delta: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libktorrent/+bug/713790/+attachment/1836012/+files/debian-ubuntu.debdiff [00:35] Ubuntu bug 713790 in libktorrent (Ubuntu) "Sync libktorrent 1.0.5-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [00:35] ari-tczew: I'd say fine for sync, but I don't have time for a detailed review. [00:36] ScottK: I'm too. [00:36] Riddell: ^^ === emma is now known as em [07:31] Riddell: ping [08:04] Quintasan: ping === hunger_ is now known as hunger [09:32] Riddell: you haven't bumped the package name in libindicate-qt1.symbols so the packages still depend on libindicate-qt0 [09:57] debfx: aah [09:57] hi jussi [09:59] Riddell: I followed up on the work item: "Get *buntu logos onto loco.ubuntu.com footer" But they are looking for an example, have you any idea where to find one? [09:59] jussi: an example of what? [09:59] the logo? [10:00] some other footer that includes the logo's [10:00] bug 714487 [10:00] Launchpad bug 714487 in loco-directory "Get *buntu logos onto loco.ubuntu.com footer" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/714487 [10:07] jussi: ubuntu.com [10:07] jussi: I think the logo website has changed design since we looked at it during UDS [10:08] oh [10:08] s/logo/loco/ [10:08] Riddell meant: "jussi: I think the loco website has changed design since we looked at it during UDS" [10:08] I'm not sure what I want from locos but some way of ensuring that Kubuntu is represented and supported in each loco [10:12] I think that might involve a brain transplant in the leadership [10:16] valorie: which leadership? [10:16] valorie: no, they are quite willing to include it, but just looking for ways. [10:16] I was thinking more of the local leadership [10:16] people just seem to have tunnel vision [10:17] leadership from Canonical/main ubuntu website would definitely help [10:53] Riddell: btw, how is the printer work going? do we have anyone doing that? [10:53] jussi: not really, dantii has his unfinished tools and system-config-printer-kde doesn't have anyone working on it [10:54] aww, thats sad. [10:54] Perhaps we might identify 3 or 4 areas we really want done this cycle (from the list) and highlight them in a blog post ? [10:55] can we participate in GSoc? [10:56] they want more organizations this year [10:56] or at least push some of our "most wanted" as KDE projects? [10:59] ack, nighters all [10:59] jussi: can do, although for printing as I say we have two avenues and I don't know which is best to follow [10:59] valorie: perhaps, but its a bit far away, Im thinking things that can be done for natty [10:59] night valorie [11:00] Riddell: ok, what are they? [11:01] dantii's unfinished tools and system-config-printer-kde/printer-applet [11:20] apachelogger, JontheEchidna, NCommander, nixternal, ScottK: remember to sign up for a debfx grilling http://doodle.com/sbufw9rpaq7vh9i3 [11:56] Riddell: a what? [11:57] NCommander: his kubuntu-dev application (if you aren't feeling very kubuntu-dev-ish currently feel free to ignore) [12:24] ScottK: need help with DSO stuff ... iirc you've dealt with it before right? [12:26] shadeslayer: is it about dcmtk? [12:27] debfx: yes [12:27] it somehow needs to be linked manually [12:27] but i quite get how to do that [12:29] shadeslayer: why do we care about dcmtk? [12:29] debfx: koffice needs it [12:30] Riddell: i've talked to Andrea about the LP bug and he say's it will be fixed for sure in the final release [12:30] somehow the issue is now in rekonq itself [12:31] since the same thing in kwebkitpart works [12:39] shadeslayer: adding -Wl,--no-as-needed to LDFLAGS should work around the problem [12:39] ah ... [12:39] debfx: thanks! i'll look into this in a few minutes [12:40] but we could just ignore it since it's only an optional dependency and the package is a mess (upstream doesn't even support building shared libraries) [12:47] neon could do with an obvious way of making you aware it's a neon session, I just had a battle wondering why NM plasmoid wouldn't load without realising I was in a neon session [12:48] haha :P [12:48] Riddell: you'll need to compile the plasmoid [12:48] but [12:49] i agree [12:49] Riddell: any suggestions? [12:49] change the wallpaper somehow, or the logo in the kickoff menu maybe [12:50] hmm ... [12:50] we could ask for a new wallpaper for neon :) [12:50] I don't think it needs a fancy wallpaper, I think it needs the normal wallpaper with "NEON" written in large letter on top of it [12:51] i guess yeah [12:51] works for me ... [12:51] Quintasan_: yofel_ ^^ [12:51] Riddell: kwin working fine for you? [12:51] in Neon? yes it was [12:51] hmm [12:51] maybe i need to install the upgrades :P [12:52] also [12:52] i'll upload a rebuild of ktorrent in a few minutes [12:54] Riddell: any opinions on new rekonq alpha? [12:54] ( please dont mention the bookmark bug :P ) [13:12] * ryanakca wonders how difficult it would be to get per-package upload permission for packages I have DM-Upload-Allowed turned on in Debian... [13:29] shadeslayer: works for me [13:29] I haven't noticed much change so far [13:29] User Agent is new :P [13:30] oh aye [13:31] and the context menu's were trimmed down [13:33] still has separate Copy Image and Copy Image Location, which konqueror managed to merge years ago [13:34] uh, in natty: konversation : Depends: libindicate-qt0 (>= 0.2.5.91) but 0.2.5-0ubuntu2 is to be installed [13:34] ih [13:34] afiestas: known bug [13:34] Riddell: i dont see copy image anywhere [13:34] Riddell: WIP ? [13:34] wait [13:34] rather copy image location ( in konqueror [13:34] afiestas: yes new indicate-qt uploaded, I'll rebuild the rest now [13:34] Riddell: oks, thanks [13:34] shadeslayer: exactly, it does both in one [13:35] oh [13:35] quite interesting [13:35] * shadeslayer will look into this tonight [13:36] shadeslayer: Qt copy can have multiple items with different mimeypes, so one image/png and one text/plain [13:37] righto [13:37] i read up on KAuth stuff as well [13:38] debfx: http://paste.kde.org/4374 [13:38] i have no idea what's going on there @_@ [13:39] some file seems to disappear [13:44] bbiab === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:55] Riddell: hi! what's the status regarding the new libindicate-qt? [13:57] Riddell: you are right about removing kubuntu_02_fix_text_overlap_in_systemtray.diff from plasma-widget-message-indicator btw [13:58] agateau: it's all uploaded but I messed up a bit on the transition, the depending packages are rebuilding now to fix it [13:58] Riddell: great, thanks [14:06] Riddell: so libktorrent can be synced? [14:06] ari-tczew: oh aye sorry, what's the bug number again? [14:06] Riddell: bug 713790 [14:06] Launchpad bug 713790 in libktorrent (Ubuntu) "Sync libktorrent 1.0.5-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/713790 [14:06] btw how does one use -lpthread in debian/rules ? [14:06] shadeslayer: do you want fix FTBFS with binutils-gold? [14:07] LIBS = -lpthread nameofso [14:07] ari-tczew: yes [14:07] ari-tczew: i've added LDFLAGS = -Wl --no-as-needed [14:07] but it still fails [14:08] shadeslayer: hmm. you should patch Makefile.in [14:08] and .am [14:08] :S [14:08] no d/rules [14:09] shadeslayer: check doko related-packages how he fix ftbfs [14:09] dcmtk has a nasty build system, needs patching Makefile.in [14:09] ok [14:09] Riddell: how to check whether it's a nasty build system? [14:11] ari-tczew: by looking at the souce and going "is this using cmake" if no -> nasty build system [14:11] heh [14:11] just for confusion dcmtk does have cmake files around but it doesn't use them [14:11] dcmtk uses configure :/ [14:11] but it's not using autoconf, only automake, so it's taking a nasty build system and only using half of it, that makes it twice as nasty [14:11] ari-tczew: what's the source name for doko pacakges? [14:12] shadeslayer: https://launchpad.net/~doko/+uploaded-packages follow for changes in packages [14:13] seems i'm all out of bandwidth already [14:13] shadeslayer: this guy also has fixed some ftbfs: https://launchpad.net/~udienz/+uploaded-packages [14:13] shadeslayer: you don't need to download full source... [14:13] righto [14:13] ari-tczew: i'm just saying :) [14:13] just look on launchpad how package has fixed [14:13] i bet it's Norton on the desktop eating up all my bandwidth [14:32] shadeslayer: you need to add "-Wl,--no-as-needed" (comma instead of space) [14:33] i did that :) [14:33] it's correct in debian/rules [14:33] i wrote it wrong here :P [14:34] debfx: make[3]: *** No rule to make target `../../config/include/dcmtk/config/cfunix.h', needed by `oflist.o'. Stop. [14:34] have you changed anything else? [14:35] nope [14:35] so this is next ftbfs to fix [14:35] 3.6.0 built fine for me with the LDFLAGS change [14:35] yep [14:36] O_O [14:36] weirdness [14:37] ok lemme clean it out and see === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [14:38] huh ... builds now :/ [14:40] Riddell: does http://osdir.com/ml/linux.debian.devel.dpkg.bugs/2006-08/msg00123.html work for you in rekonq? [14:47] shadeslayer: nope [14:51] i fear i may have introduced a regression .... or maybe KIO is sucky [14:59] Riddell: I'll ask you for ktorrent merge sponsorship when my pbuilder will pull libktorrent from archive, ok? [15:01] ari-tczew: sure === makl is now known as ximion === ximion is now known as makl === makl is now known as ximion [15:42] ScottK: do python modules (without native code) that are compatible with python 2 and 3 need a separate package for python3? [17:01] again no jt :/ [17:05] no what? [17:06] jontheechidna [17:06] ah [17:06] shadeslayer: do we haz news on phonon in qtwebkit? === cmagina is now known as cmagina-lunch [17:31] debfx: what do i do about this : dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: symbol _ZTVSt9basic_iosIcSt11char_traitsIcEE used by debian/libdcmtk1/usr/lib/libofstd.so.1.0.0 found in none of the libraries. [17:31] the build log is full of them [17:32] apachelogger: nope ... it seems i'm far too busy with Project Neon + rekonq + sekret project [17:33] shadeslayer: ignore it, see http://bugs.debian.org/510120 [17:33] * shadeslayer looks [17:35] if you feel super motivated you can also fix the build system :) [17:36] i.e. link with -Wl,--no-undefined and add all required libs === cmagina-lunch is now known as cmagina [18:10] sekret project sounds interesting [18:14] I bet it's a codename for doing nothing ;) [18:15] no that's "I have exams" [18:17] That gives him two excuses for doing nothing [18:17] One > two :P [18:17] derp [18:17] Two > one [18:19] I hope it's not a math exam :P [18:20] * Quintasan passed his math stuff with a B [18:21] debfx: Yes. We want Python/Python3 to be separate at runtime. [18:23] haha [18:23] debfx: no thanks ... im already scared of configure scripts and what not [18:23] Riddell: it's not so sekret .. http://blogs.forum.nokia.com/blog/sivan-greenbergs-forum-nokia-blog/2010/11/07/kde-ovi-qt-meego-syncml [18:24] Quintasan: and i have exam from the 23rd of this month :P [18:24] s/exam/exams [18:24] Sorry, due to database inconsistencies the packages site is down for maintenance and rebuild of its tree. This is expected to take a while, we are working on it and are very sorry for any inconvenience caused. [18:24] :S [18:26] oh also KAuth [18:27] * shadeslayer is going to be up all night today [19:03] ScottK: ok, do you have some time to review a package? I couldn't find much documentation on how build such a package [19:03] debfx: If not today, I should tomorrow. [19:04] If you want an example, pyyaml supports Python3. [19:07] ScottK: this is the package: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/pyudev_0.8-0ubuntu1.dsc [19:08] ScottK: what does XB-Python-Version do? [19:08] debfx: It lists in the release file what versions of Python the package was built for. It's obsolete and should be removed. [19:12] debfx: Looks reasonable to me. [19:18] ScottK: ok, thanks. The dh buildsystem doesn't support python3, right? [19:18] debfx: I'm not sure. [20:08] Riddell: Try Kamoso 2.0 git, it should fit your netbook now [20:30] On 64 bit 11.04 here, kubuntu PPAs. apt-listchanges tells me there is no changelog for kdepim. Is one not being kept? [20:31] genii-around: probably because PPA changelogs are not handled the same wasy as official archive ones [20:32] shadeslayer: OK, thanks [20:41] hey [20:41] bambee: \o [20:46] Riddell: dcmtk done : https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+packages [20:55] kde bug 259333 is fun times [20:55] KDE bug 259333 in kdeui "KExtendableItemDelegate crashes in extendRect() on initial paint" [Crash,New] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259333 [20:55] JontheEchidna: apachelogger is hunting for you, hide! [20:55] I know, I stalk you guys on irclogs.ubuntu.com [20:56] the overbearing IT at my college block most every port except port 80, so I cannot irc nor git pull/push [20:57] but I am always watching ಠ_ಠ [20:58] JontheEchidna: fancy talking at ubuntu developer week? [20:58] is it that time again already? [20:59] bambee: kdebase ( it's called kdepasswd ) [20:59] ok thanks [21:00] JontheEchidna: yus [21:00] apachelogger: anything in particular that needs talking about? [21:00] JontheEchidna: kubuntu development [21:00] shadeslayer: you could talk about ninja foo [21:01] apachelogger: but i want to talk about Neon [21:01] with Quintasan [21:01] apachelogger: ever heard of syncevolution? [21:04] shadeslayer: what stops you from having 2 talks? [21:04] also I have not heared no nothing [21:04] * apachelogger is hacking vlc stuff [21:04] hmm [21:05] when is the talk supposed to be held? [21:06] shadeslayer: some free slot [21:06] see wiki page [21:06] * shadeslayer gogoduck's it [21:07] apachelogger: hacking VLC? Like writing in native Blu-Ray support? [21:07] :P:P [21:07] ... [21:07] if only you knew :P [21:08] I hate not having native Blu-Ray support [21:08] ... [21:08] if only you knew :P :P :P :P [21:08] Wait... [21:08] You are? [21:08] no [21:08] I will join the church of Sitter if you are... Oh :( [21:09] Church of Sitter <- LOL [21:09] :) [21:09] apachelogger: what would you say if i made your N900 sync stuff with KDE PIM AND with cloud stuff like the Ovi store? [21:09] Looks lie England will win this one. [21:10] apachelogger: and regarding UDW, i'll finalize a time tommorow [21:11] sigh ... i should also work on my Kubuntu Dev application and post to ML [21:11] shadeslayer: would be very nice [21:12] what kind of insane times have you choosen? O_O [21:12] 4.30 AM [21:12] @_@ [21:14] shadeslayer: talk to dholbach he can help you get a more convenient slot if possible at all [21:15] apachelogger: not that ... i'm talking about the Kubuntu Meeting [21:16] oh [21:16] what meeting? [21:17] Kubuntu Meeting? [21:17] my gmail is borken [21:17] I must have missed an email [21:23] shadeslayer: I didn't you know you were going to apply [21:23] debfx: i'm thinking of applying [21:24] will decide till tomorrow :P [21:24] * shadeslayer is hungry now [21:26] shadeslayer: you needs minion first [21:26] debfx: you too [21:27] apachelogger: tazz is my minion [21:27] I wonder if tazz thinks so too :P [21:29] apachelogger: i certainly hope so .. ^_^ [21:33] meaning you do not know :P [21:34] JontheEchidna: you could use freenode's webchat interface [21:34] I think I've tried that [21:35] * apachelogger starts writing QtVlc [21:38] JontheEchidna: behind a proxy? [21:38] I could try a port 80 proxy I suppose [21:38] my college has port 8080 open and i just ssh into my laptop from college and do stuff [21:38] and if i can't do that, i use the web interface [21:39] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/59511828/cgroup_patch << ^_^ [21:39] JontheEchidna: run your ssh at home on port 80 :P [21:39] see ^^ :P [21:40] * shadeslayer listens to some Pink Floyd [21:40] that script is all sorts of fun [21:40] especially the comments [21:40] reminds me of java [21:40] haha :P [21:40] i just applied it [21:40] * apachelogger abandons all hope for getting anywhere with coding today and decides to spend the rest of the evening with pizza and telly [21:41] let's see what happens [21:43] ~np [21:43] shadeslayer_ listened to "Hot Like Sauce Rustified Remix" by Pretty Lights [Unreleased 2010 Remixes] 3 days ago; -- see http://www.last.fm/user/shadeslayer_ for more [21:43] @_@ [21:43] ~np [21:43] shadeslayer_ listened to "Kanye West All Of The Lights Remix" by Pretty Lights [Unreleased 2010 Remixes] 8 seconds ago; -- see http://www.last.fm/user/shadeslayer_ for more [21:44] ok time for bed [21:44] night all [21:44] * shadeslayer looks at the time and freaks out [21:45] gn [22:10] apachelogger: I switched from Raster to Default/XRender, the desktop effects still suspended and cannot be activated [22:11] [17:08] I'm trying to solve a KDE bug [17:08] and I need to identify what component Kubuntu ships in their distro [17:08] from this bug report comment #1 [17:08] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=265835#c1 [22:11] KDE bug 265835 in general "KDE's draw-gtk-apps-like-qt-apps component ignores requests to draw text in black" [Normal,Needsinfo: waitingforinfo] [22:11] sorry for the sloppy post :X [22:12] anyone know how i can identify what component kubuntu ships with? [22:13] triune: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/maverick/kubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.manifest [22:15] would this be the right answer gtk2-engines-qtcurve 1.5.2-1ubuntu3 ? [22:15] probably [22:16] Thanks, I'll mention that to the KDE guys and wee what they think [22:16] *see [23:06] http://wstaw.org/m/2011/02/10/quickFormat.png [23:06] what do you think? [23:07] Riddell: ↑