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doctormothorwil: Hello12:50
thorwilhi doctormo12:59
doctormothorwil: Is a competition ok if the aim of the event is to train underdeveloped artists?13:00
thorwildoctormo: i'd say yes, if that objective is clear to everyone13:01
doctormoYes, thanks. Having a good day thorwil?13:02
thorwildoctormo: mixed. always suffering from the what-i-should-be-doing vs what-i-would-like-to-do split :)13:04
thorwilat least the weather is flooding us with sunshine, here13:04
thorwildoctormo: you?13:05
doctormothorwil: the sunshine sounds nice. I've just come out of a really harsh night of sleepish.13:08
doctormorecovery will take all day I think13:08
doctormoPlus it's so damn dry here. 5% humidity last night. I had to turn on the vaporisor to improve things.13:10
thorwiloh. don'r even have a vaporiser and never missed one13:11
thorwildoctormo: what kind of competition do you have in mind?13:11
doctormothorwil: Not mine, was advising someone else.13:14
thorwildoctormo: in some way, typical assignments in design foundation classes are similar to contests. same task for everyone and results will be compared, though there's usually no "winner"13:16
thorwilcomparison and reflection within the group is important, then13:18
doctormoYes, makes sense. Of course winners can be useful too. I guess it depends on the kind of play environment that is sort to teach.13:18
doctormothorwil: I wish there was some way to make the art team more professional.19:28
doctormoWe don't have good training (any at all)19:28
doctormoWe're not using the beginners team19:28
doctormoAnd we can't seem to get rid of that carbuncle jbaer, who seems to delight in making a competition out of everything.19:29
thorwildoctormo: so do i. i'm currently operating under the assumption that i can't afford to really care, though19:29
doctormoyea, I know, it's a royal pain, because there are teams who know to come directly to us19:30
doctormoand then there are teams that come to the team and are mislead.19:30
thorwili'm wondering if anyone will bother setting john's "Most artist are posting to ..." http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-10-0/ straight19:33
doctormothorwil: I don't understand, he's not saying most artists are posting to19:38
doctormoAnd even if he was, there is nowhere else to post to.19:38
doctormoI certainly haven't enabled the deviantArt submission.19:39
thorwildoctormo: actually, he is saying that19:40
thorwildoctormo: why that? wasn't the last design blog post about that pointing to your deviantart group?19:40
doctormothorwil: If you look, I've switched off submissions to the gallery containing last cycle's.19:42
doctormoI just have no confidence that this competition makes any sort of sense.19:43
thorwildoctormo: i think you didn't communicate that, so far19:44
thorwildoctormo: so does that mean the design blog and wiki happily point to a place where nobody can submit anything? and on top, this fact hasn't led to any noise?19:45
doctormothorwil: I don't think the link from the wiki and design blog should ever have pointed to deviantArt (for the same reasons I don't think19:45
doctormothey should point to flikr)19:45
doctormothe whole point of the deviantArt thing is to encourage existing deviantArt users and especially the 700 members of ubuntu-artists group to get involved.19:46
doctormoI could quite easily just point them to somewhere else using a blog entry or two.19:46
thorwilhttp://design.canonical.com/2011/01/the-natty-wallpaper-contest-an-important-update/19:48
thorwili mixed something up. that one points to flickr19:48
doctormoyep, that agrees with my memory19:49
thorwilbut https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFreeCultureShowcase does point to http://ubuntu-artists.deviantart.com/ for "illustrative" wallpapers19:49
doctormowould you like me to fix it?19:49
thorwildoctormo: depends on the fix ;)19:50
doctormothorwil: there you gp19:50
doctormogo19:51
thorwildoctormo: *if* Iain didn't clear this up with you, he deserves this to fall back on him19:51
doctormoI can't even get Iain to remove to redundant and confusing deviantArt group. If you see him, let him know.19:52
thorwilhow lovely organized it all seems19:56
doctormothorwil: It's very "I don't know what"19:58
coz_hey all20:43

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