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Try asking in #ubuntu [03:01] hi all [03:04] hello [03:06] I am trying to install Ubuntu and it says i need a i686 version.... all I can find is a i386 or a 64bit... does anyone know of a i686 version? [03:07] humanitylos: 686 is compatible with 386 [03:08] well i tried to install it with a x86-64 and it says the kernal isnt right [03:08] install cd that is [03:09] humanitylos: x86-64 is 64-bit [03:09] ok... thought the x86 meant 32-64.. [03:10] x86 being i386 [03:13] humanitylos: x86-64 is the name of th 64-bit instruction set on Intel CPUs. It is compatible with AMD64, AMD's 64-bit implementation. [03:14] /me holds back 64 bit rage rant [03:19] ok thanx.. now.. my next problem.... I downloaded the i386 ISO from ubuntu.com (the cd i had was from a friend..) and have tried and destroyed 6 cd-r disks triing to burn the iso ... for some reason I can not get it to boot.. anyone know why this is? I have tried several programs and i have tried doing a USB boot as well... [03:25] humanitylos: Did you try burning at the lowest speed? [03:26] yes [03:26] and i have a program that ajusts the speed on its own [03:29] humanitylos: Did you try downloading a new copy of the ISO? [03:29] yes several times.. [03:30] even tried cd and DVD [03:30] WR and -R [03:31] Used a Windows cd and it booted just fine.. so i know its not hardware.. [03:31] or the Bios [03:34] humanitylos: Maybe it's the burning function of the drive that's gone bad? [03:35] donno... I mean I can Read what is writen... but when I goto boot it doesnt... Its like the Boot record on the CD is missing [03:37] humanitylos: cd isn't booting? [03:37] correct [03:37] I cannot autoinstall Samsung's unified print driver???? [03:37] humanitylos: the only thing i can think of right now is to do an md5 checksum on the iso image, and compare it with the checksum in the md5 file on the releases.ubuntu.com server [03:38] LaranKriese: why not? [03:38] did that.. [03:38] humanitylos: what iso? [03:38] ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386 [03:38] it's supposed to be a simple double click (according to samsung) [03:39] striaght from the ubuntu website [03:39] humanitylos: try ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386 if that works, please come back so we can get a bug filed [03:39] humanitylos: you can get it @ http://release.ubuntu.com [03:39] correction [03:39] http://releases.ubuntu.com [03:39] Ok.. will do. [03:39] thanx. [03:39] good luck [03:40] I went back to 10.04 since 10.10 would not give me a readable iso [03:40] humanitylos: thank me if it works, if not, come back and we'll see what we can do [03:40] ok [03:40] LaranKriese: what hardware do you have? [03:40] LaranKriese: perhaps you and humanitylos are using similar hardware? [03:41] amd 64, [03:41] LaranKriese: let me see if there is a bug already filed against your samsung printer. what is the model #? [03:42] ml-1665 [03:42] LaranKriese: are you family of zkriesse ? [03:42] not that I know [03:44] I would like to do a terminal install of this driver but need to be walked through it. Samsung only gives information to allow graphical installation and that has failed. The autoinstaller will not run... [03:44] I've upgraded to various ubuntu hoping this would help.... [03:46] LaranKriese: i could try running it here. there isn't a bug in launchpad. the samsung driver may not be open source, and if that's the case, there really isn't anything an developer can do :| [03:46] launchpad = bug tracking system [03:46] it's not open source but I was hoping someone could help.... [03:47] LaranKriese: i will try running the file here. [03:47] and I'm not quite a noob but am getting no help or assistance from anyone (at ubuntu or Samsung) [03:47] LaranKriese: you are receiving help from ubuntu now. i am doing my best :) [03:47] thanks [03:49] LaranKriese: do you tried "sudo sh install.sh"? [03:50] no [03:50] do=so [03:50] what would be the command here and which directory [03:50] i need 2 min to download the tar.gz file [03:51] LaranKriese: where did you download the samsung driver? [03:52] http://downloadcenter.samsung.com [03:52] LaranKriese: can you give me a link to the file you are using? i am downloading a file, but i want to make sure it is the same file [03:53] this is the manual: Http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/201011/20101129112453066/EN/User_Guide_en/english/start_here.htm [03:55] LaranKriese: that is the user guide. not the driver. [03:56] yeah I know, looking for the driver page.... [03:56] http://www.samsung.com/ca/support/detail/supportPrdDetail.do?menu=SP00&prd_ia_cd=&prd_mdl_cd=ML-1665/XAA&prd_mdl_name=ML-1665&srchword=ML-1665 [03:58] LaranKriese: you did download the file, correct? what is the name of the file you downloaded? [03:58] /home/laran/Downloads/UnifiedLinuxDriver_0.86.tar.gz [03:59] I also downloaded the smart panel: /home/laran/Downloads/Smartpanel_0.86.tar.gz [04:01] I have extracted the unified linux driver and went into cdroot to double click on autoinstall and I get the panel asking to run in terminal, run, etc [04:01] I've tried to run it, run it in terminal and nothing..... [04:03] LaranKriese: what was the extension of the file you downloaded? [04:03] 0.86 I guess.... [04:04] LaranKriese: the file i downloaded has the extension .tar.gz [04:05] sorry... terms. yes it's .tar.gz [04:06] LaranKriese: perhaps you should tell me the steps you took after downloading the file [04:07] LaranKriese: specifically, did you extract the file using tar -xvvf filename? [04:07] LaranKriese, http://www.bchemnet.com/suldr/ [04:07] seidos, tar zxvf [04:07] z goes for the gunzip [04:08] no, I did it according to samsung in graphical mode (need to read the instructions I followed) [04:08] bioterror: -xvvf worked for me. [04:09] Any good web development tools for ubuntu ? [04:10] LaranKriese: when you tried in graphic mode, what happened? [04:10] bioterror: thanks for the page -bookmarked it [04:10] LaranKriese, http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341621 loooots of conversation [04:10] seidos: I will try -xvvf first [04:10] gunndawg: php and django comes to mind [04:11] seidos: php is a programming language, I am more after development tools [04:11] LaranKriese: i was able to run sudo ./autorun and i'm looking at a graphical installer now [04:12] gunndawg: then not sure what you mean by "development tools". gimp? :) [04:13] seidos: gimp is a graphics editor, not a web development tool, sigh [04:13] it has a little dude that is...er. is this installer for real? [04:13] LaranKriese: are you serious? [04:13] okay so I need to tar -xvvf [04:13] gunndawg: are you literal? [04:13] seidos: not sure what yer looking at since I am not in terminal nor in autoinstall. yer ahead of me.... [04:14] seidos: well when you recommend a programming language and a graphics editor for "web development tools" then I have to be literal [04:14] gunndawg: not really [04:14] seidos: what does gimp have to do with web developing ? [04:15] gunndawg: building graphics for your pages [04:15] seidos: I dont use graphics for webdesign, I use css, so its not a web development tool, its a graphics editor [04:16] gunndawg: ah, so you're looking for something like dreamweaver or something? [04:16] gunndawg: what tool do you use with css? [04:17] seidos: I dont use a tool, css is a syntax [04:17] seidos: I am after web development IDE's [04:17] gunndawg: only IDE i'm aware of is geany [04:17] gunndawg: not sure it would meet your definition for "wdt" [04:38] any ideas on why my web server isn't parsing php5 files? [04:38] i followed the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP?action=show&redirect=LAMP#Troubleshooting PHP 5 [04:38] i got it working on my notebook without a problem...but on my server, no luck right now [04:39] the server is a 10.04 system [04:41] seidos: how do I autorun the unifiedLinuxDriver??? [04:42] LaranKriese: i did it by typing sudo ./autorun in the folder that i decompressed the files in [04:43] seidos: PHP 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.7 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Jan 12 2011 18:36:08) [04:43] is that the verion you have? [04:47] hey gunndawg, just saw your web dev ? earlier. I havn't used it but cssed in the software center looks like the ticket for css related dev [04:47] holstein: libapache2-mod-php5_5.3.2-1ubuntu4.7_i386.deb is the package that installed, but how do i check what version is actually working? [04:47] i ran php5 -version [04:48] working=installed [04:48] looks like the same though [04:48] i dont use php on my server [04:48] The program 'php5' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: [04:48] sudo apt-get install php5-cli [04:48] :| [04:48] but if there is something easy i can do to test [04:48] i will [04:48] hmmm [04:48] you need that i think [04:49] i would sudo apt-get install php5 [04:49] holstein: okay, this is weird. i did sudo apt-get install php5 [04:50] then i typed php5 --version , and it says php5 isn't installed [04:50] m@prometheus:~$ php5 -version [04:50] PHP 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.7 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Jan 12 2011 18:36:08) [04:51] i should stop using my thumb [04:52] PHP 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.7 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Jan 12 2011 18:36:08) [04:52] Copyright (c) 1997-2009 The PHP Group [04:52] cool [04:52] thats what i have [04:52] it said i needed to install php-cli [04:52] 10.04 server version [04:53] holstein: do you have that package? [04:53] not installed [04:53] weird [04:54] im not sure you need that [04:57] dang, now i can't remove it [04:57] ? [04:57] php? [04:58] the php-cli package [04:58] lol [04:58] yeah, i dont know about that one [04:58] not sure what its for [04:58] i installed php5 for something else that i didnt get around to doing [04:59] ah dang it, forgot the 5 in php5 [05:00] i can't run php5 -version without that package [05:01] yeah? [05:01] holstein: ah, i'm not using server version [05:01] maybe that's why [05:01] i did the alternate installer [05:01] hmmm [05:01] i wouldnt think it would matter that much [05:02] i knew i should've done server install [05:02] dang it [05:02] well, you should be able to make that one do whatever you need [05:02] in theory [05:02] oh well [05:02] if you can fine a server guru [05:02] yeah, in theory [05:02] fine* [05:02] find** [05:03] are you a server guru? [05:03] far from it ;) [05:03] an arm-chair server enthusiast at best [05:04] well...i'll keep trying [05:04] and if i get it working, hopefully it will be stable [05:05] oh yeah [05:05] it'll be solid [05:13] hmmm, maybe it doesn't work because nobody has ever tried it before [05:13] from an alternate iso install [05:13] halpbatman: greetings your honor [05:13] nah [05:13] well, i cant say from alternate [05:13] sup [05:14] but i know PHP has worked from a desktop install [05:14] normal live CD [05:14] php dont care [05:14] its something fiddly we're not thinking of [05:14] yeah, same here [05:14] what are you thinking of? [05:14] ah, i see what you are saying [05:15] seidos: did you turn it off and back on again ;) [05:15] well, does alternate and server pull packages from same place? [05:15] holstein: yeah,restarted it [05:15] yeah, its all the same repos [05:16] and you got the same package i have [05:31] what's the cmd in terminal to reboot comp and to shut down? [05:31] sudo shutdown -h now [05:32] or sudo reboot [05:32] ty [05:33] and one more than [05:33] thing [05:33] what's to repeat previous cmd or previous entry [05:33] like i type shutdown [05:33] you can arrow up [05:33] and then it asks for authentication [05:33] so is there something i can do to [05:33] sudo "something" [05:33] hmm [05:33] to make it repeat what I just did with sudo? [05:34] not really [05:34] well, there is something for that [05:34] to replace something in the last command [05:34] BUT i used it once right after i heard about it [05:34] let me see if i can dig up a link [05:34] lol [05:34] thx [05:36] i'll have to look around for that [05:36] it was handy [05:36] but not handy enough ;) [05:36] !! [05:36] found it [05:36] it's !! [05:36] you just do [05:36] sudo !! [05:36] and repeat previous command [05:37] cool [05:37] that even different than the one i was thinking about [05:37] that one is better for your needs i think [05:37] sudo !! [05:37] yeah i'm pretty lazy [05:37] lol [05:37] the one i had would fix a typo [05:37] in a long string [05:37] easily [05:38] are you lazy, or efficient :) [05:38] the line starts to blur :P [05:43] hi Elise001 [05:44] hi Seidos. Just hanging out on IRC for a bit. [05:48] * gunndawg is making a Linux Development Blog site :) [05:48] okay. i'm trying to get my webserver up. not having much luck though [05:48] * seidos has a site, but no server right now :( [05:48] seidos: its quite easy, just install apache2 [05:49] seidos: is it local? [05:49] i would try viewing it locally if you can [05:49] gunndawg: apache2 works, but php5-mysql doesn't right now [05:49] to get the firewall and net out of the equation [05:49] OIC [05:49] holstein: it's local. [05:49] just parts are borked [05:49] how do you guys do name: on irc? [05:50] sry i'm a noob [05:50] halpbatman: change your nick? [05:50] /nick halpbatman234 [05:50] or whatever [05:50] no like on the channel it says "holstein: it's local" [05:50] OH [05:50] how do you do that in front of your msg? [05:50] i use tab [05:50] i type halp [05:50] and then hit tab [05:51] halpbatman: like that [05:51] holstein: oh nice [05:51] :) [05:51] ty :D [05:51] sure [05:51] i had to ask about that one too [05:52] GN all [05:52] i gotta try getting horizontal... [05:52] night holstein [05:54] holstein: good night [05:55] halpbatman: good nick [05:55] seidos: ty :P [05:55] halpbatman: if you find batman, let me know [05:56] lol [05:58] Bye Seidos. I should go home and get some sleep. It was a long drive to CSU Monterey Bay and back to Sunnyvale. [06:00] i'm really liking ubuntu/linux [06:01] it's my first time using linux [06:01] i installed it on my samsung netbook [06:01] the netbook version [06:01] pretty clean [06:01] and i'm learning to use cmdline [06:01] + i may find batman [06:05] does anyone use the netbook version? [06:05] i wanna make the menu bar "autohide" [06:05] is there any way to do it? [06:05] same with the spring board on the side [06:11] seidos: get it workin ? [06:13] gunndawg: unfortunately, no [06:14] i'm out of ideas, taking a break [06:15] maybe computers just aren't for me. i should've been a gardener [06:15] I have a garden that needs maintenance [06:16] I wish I could just mkfs it [06:16] seidos: its quite easy to setup, I did it in 5mins [06:17] seidos: look up how to install LAMP on google [06:18] gunndawg: all right [06:20] !lamp [06:20] LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+) [06:20] yeah, i was using that site [06:21] something weird is going on. [06:36] with any luck my blog site will get a wee bit of traffic :) [06:36] what do you blog about? [06:38] halpbatman: I am starting a "Linux Development Blog" where I plan to blog about my experiences switching from a windows user and developer to a linux user and developer [06:38] halpbatman: and I am still learning linux so each blog will hopefully have some updated knowledge about stuff I have learned, and done [06:38] halpbatman: I also plan to have an irc room and message board for others to use, and contribute to [06:40] gunndawg: sounds rad [06:40] might even do some live video blogs where I stream my screen while writing code and what not, we'll see [06:40] halpbatman: Yes there is a way to make the taskbar auto hid [06:40] gunndawg: cool [06:41] zkriesse: and no i wont be using a generic wordpress blog theme ;) coding it all on my own with a unique layout [06:41] gunndawg: let me know when it's up [06:41] halpbatman: sure :) [06:41] gunndawg: + how do i hide it? [06:41] halpbatman: Just opposite click on the panel in question, Properties -> Auto Hide Panel [06:42] I got rid of my bottom panel entirely and juse use docky in panel mode [06:42] Docky FTW! [06:42] zkriesse: im using netbook version of ubuntu and the springboard and the menubar can't be right clicked [06:43] halpbatman: Seriously? [06:43] one sec [06:43] zkriesse: yeah.. i mean it's supposed to be for netbooks right? how come they don't automatically hide it so i get more screen space [06:43] zkriesse: it just stays on [06:43] Check this thread out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1402077 [06:44] zkriesse: kkk [06:44] Not sure if that's it but lemme test it [06:45] gunndawg: let me know when it's up too [06:46] halpbatman: Ok that command is ok [06:47] zkriesse: so gconf-editor? [06:47] seidos: will do [06:47] Yup [06:48] Type that in in Terminal [06:48] Go to Apps -> Panel -> Top Levels -> Pick your panel [06:48] Might be a bit different cause you're on netbook edition [06:50] zkriesse: do i have to restart for it to take effect? [06:50] zkriesse: it didn't do anything.. [06:51] Hmm [06:51] Did you tick the auto hide box? [06:51] I need to register a channel here on freenode, tryin to come up with a good name ;) [06:51] zkriesse: si [06:52] halpbatman: Hmm [06:53] Try a restart I guess [07:01] yeah imma give that a go [07:01] brb [07:05] zkriesse: no dice [07:05] damnit [07:05] !language | zkriesse [07:05] zkriesse: gonna try again tm gonna hit the hay now [07:05] zkriesse, please see my private message [07:05] zkriesse: thx for the help good night [07:05] Indeed [07:06] how do you auto space the icons on ur desktop ? [07:06] Ih ave them in the order I want them, but want them all spaced equally [07:07] nevermind [07:09] I can design websites, but I cant keep my icons aligned *smacks self in forehead* [07:09] evermind [07:09] gunndawg: you have a desktop ? I never know I never see it [07:11] but with the right mouse button, you get a context menu and toggle 'keep aligned' [07:13] :D [07:13] that would be too easy [07:23] site layout almost finished [07:24] nice [07:25] how can i check what's inside a package? [07:25] from cli? [07:26] Ah you mean the details of a package? [07:26] I'd use the Synaptic Package Manager for that [07:27] yeah, too slow [07:27] but thanks [07:27] i guess i'll search google [07:27] kks [07:28] even though it has bogus sites [07:28] like this one: http://tuxtweaks.com/2010/04/installing-lamp-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/ [07:28] lamp-server^ package? [07:29] shouldn't a search like that go directly to help.ubuntu.com? maybe i'm not searching right [07:30] umm why? Are you searching on help.ubuntu.com? (: [07:30] Puck`: no, i just tried right now though [07:31] if you search through google .. it searches the web, not just help.ubuntu.com (: [07:31] Puck`: why not? [07:31] Puck`: right :) [07:31] it's not Google's fault that Ubuntu based queries don't favour ubuntu official website, people don't click on it [07:33] Puck`: you mentioned fault, not me. [07:34] (: [08:34] madsailor: how ya doin this evening? [08:35] gunndawg, great....finally got screenvids of the themes I sent you after wrestling with Vbox [08:36] I win! [08:36] madsailor: nice! [08:36] im juggling between working on my new site, and still trying to figure out why chromium-browser pushes my system to 100% cpu [08:36] gunndawg, change to firefox ^__^ [08:37] or midori! [08:37] strange, that [08:37] havent tried midori but firefox seems to do it also [08:39] gunndawg, you have much experience with web dev? [08:40] madsailor: tons [08:40] madsailor: been developing websites since I was 14, [08:41] gunndawg, can't wait to see the new page then. [08:41] madsailor: the new site wont exactly show off my skills as I plan to keep it very simple [08:43] gunndawg, fair enough. I'm still at the 'hack a bunch of css and html together and sweep up the pieces afterwards stage. But it's fun stuff [08:43]