[07:31] <cdbs> hi vishal
[07:31] <vishal> hi,please giude me
[07:31] <cdbs> vishal: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs
[07:31] <cdbs> vishal: and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage
[07:32] <vishal> cdbs:can you please tell difference between bug triaging and tracking?plz
[07:32] <cdbs> vishal: the bug tracker Launchpad handles tracking
[07:33] <cdbs> vishal: when a person files a bug, someone needs to check if its legitimate, is not a duplicate of another filed bug, and whether it contains all info
[07:33] <cdbs> that is called triaging
[07:34] <vishal> thanks...I now understand basic differnce...i will go through the link you gave.
[14:16] <hggdh> kklimonda: how's life trying to help the dbus user?
[14:17] <kklimonda> hggdh: well, I did manage to make his server unbootable apparently ;)
[14:18] <kklimonda> I don't know why did he restart it again before waiting for my answer :/
[14:19] <hggdh> kklimonda: sometimes I follow him on the -users ML; he usually try something -- anything, really -- outside what is suggested
[14:19] <hggdh> kklimonda: and he shotguns his issue amongst many MLs
[14:29] <kklimonda> you are sbuscribed to the -users ML? I'm impressed by your wilingness to help :)
[14:30] <kklimonda> (all typos brought to you by thr 6 seconds long lag between my computer and ssh session ;))
[14:36] <kklimonda> can someone take a look at bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/715046 and mark it "In Progress"? Also, assign it to me, if it's not already.
[14:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 715046 in transmission (Ubuntu) "[Natty] Update Transmission to version 2.21 (affects: 3) (heat: 16)" [Undecided,New]
[14:36] <kklimonda> I can't really access LP with my connection right now :/
[14:36] <kklimonda> (also, if it doesn't have a desktop-upgrade tag, could you add it? :))
[14:41] <hggdh> kklimonda: done (assigned to you & marked in-progress)
[14:41] <hggdh> kklimonda: what happens there is I usually skim over 90% of the posts -- I do not like the tone there, very non-CoC
[14:43] <kklimonda> hggdh: heh, I guess it's pretty standard for most general MLs
[14:43] <hggdh> kklimonda: might be, but should be unacceptable on UBuntu MLs
[14:44] <kklimonda> lately, I've considered unsuscribing from python-list after someone has decided to burn it with his flame war of the week.. really  irritating, and time-consuming to skim over it.
[14:45] <kklimonda> I agree, but actively fighting such posts would be very time consuming.
[14:45] <hggdh> yeah, I follow you. I have been wondering also about that... my last posts to the -users have been really about CoC
[14:45] <hggdh> well, the list is moderated. What it would need is more active moderators
[14:46] <kklimonda> it is? and they accept posts that aren't CoC-friendly?
[14:46] <hggdh> nothing is usually done...
[14:47] <kklimonda> ok, time to cook something to eat. Have a nice day :)
[15:18] <AbhijiT> hi
[15:18] <AbhijiT> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/610131
[15:18] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 610131 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Facebook contacts cannot be added to groups (affects: 7) (dups: 1) (heat: 55)" [Low,Won't fix]
[15:19] <AbhijiT> i suggest to have a local grouping. in users computer. anyone there to help?
[15:19] <AbhijiT> any empathy dev?
[15:32] <charlie-tca> most developers do not hang out here, since we triage bugs, not fix them. Might try #ubuntu-devel
[15:37] <charlie-tca> AbhijiT: our primary task as bugsquad is to get the bugs ready for the developers to work to resolve them. We do not do the actually fixing/resolving ourselves, most of the time.
[15:39] <AbhijiT> charlie-tca, i know.
[15:39] <AbhijiT> charlie-tca, but as omer directly declined to have that feature. and he is from bug squad he is not dev
[15:40] <AbhijiT> so i am asking that what should we do about it. practially we can create users group on users machine whats problematic in that?
[15:40] <charlie-tca> As he explained in the bug report, he spoke directly to the developers, who declined
[15:40] <AbhijiT> ohh
[15:40] <charlie-tca> omer did not himself say he would not fix it, he said the developers of empathy said no
[15:40] <AbhijiT> hmm
[15:41]  * AbhijiT wonders where his freedom is as opensource user. :( now i want to rely on dev's mood!
[15:42] <charlie-tca> your freedom is to fix it yourself, instead of relying on the dev to make the changes you want
[15:42] <AbhijiT> :(
[15:43] <AbhijiT> but he declined ! as may remember!
[15:43] <AbhijiT> to have this feature! i am not saying that he should 'do' this
[15:44] <charlie-tca> You have the freedom to change the file yourself, as an opensource user. He has the freedom as the developer to refuse to make changes you want
[15:44] <AbhijiT> okay!
[17:19] <arand_> If invoking tasksel to install a task, subsequently uninstalling the same task, results in a majority of the gnome system being removed, what kind of importance would that bug have? cf Bug #574287
[17:19] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 574287 in tasksel (Debian) (and 2 other projects) "tasksel uninstalled my system! (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 28)" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/574287
[17:20] <penalvch> AbhijiT: Regarding bug 610131 the OP may want to get Facebook involved on this one -> http://bugs.developers.facebook.net/
[17:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 610131 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Facebook contacts cannot be added to groups (affects: 7) (dups: 1) (heat: 55)" [Low,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/610131
[17:20] <AbhijiT> penalvch, thanks
[17:55] <mrevell> Hello. Would any of you good people like to take part in a 20 - 30 minute call with me to chat about the Launchpad team's proposed changes to bug subscriptions?
[21:57] <BUGabundo> anyone think they can help me? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/716136
[21:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 716136 in notify-osd (Ubuntu) "getting old ballons for notifications (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[22:33] <penalvch> BUGabundo: Hey I took a look at 716136, it would be helpful if a screenshot of what old balloon is being presented, and a description of ones expectations as how it should have looked.
[22:33] <penalvch> bug 716136
[22:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 716136 in notify-osd (Ubuntu) "getting old ballons for notifications (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/716136
[22:34] <BUGabundo> penalvch: there's a screenshot
[22:34] <penalvch> nof.png is the old balloon?
[22:34] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/716136/+attachment/1840568/+files/nof.png
[22:34] <BUGabundo> yeah
[22:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 716136 in notify-osd (Ubuntu) "getting old ballons for notifications (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[22:34] <BUGabundo> and not new ones we had (have?) in natty
[22:34] <BUGabundo> and last few cycles
[22:37] <seb128> BUGabundo, do you use gdm?
[22:38] <seb128> BUGabundo, what is your GDMSESSION environment set to?
[22:38] <BUGabundo> seb128: I do
[22:38] <BUGabundo> declare -x GDMSESSION="gnome-classic"
[22:38] <seb128> that's the issue
[22:39] <BUGabundo> don't we support Classic Desktop ?
[22:39] <BUGabundo> just unity ?
[22:39] <seb128> the notify-osd service has not been updating for the new session
[22:39] <BUGabundo> buuuuuuu
[22:39] <seb128> nobody noticed before because it's only relying on the logic if you have both notify-osd and notification-daemon installed
[22:39] <BUGabundo> I do
[22:39] <seb128> which means only for people who install notification-daemon for some reason
[22:39] <BUGabundo> tried removing nofication-dameon
[22:40] <seb128> i.e not in the default installation
[22:40] <BUGabundo> but didn't fix it
[22:40] <BUGabundo> just got popups
[22:40] <seb128> well remove it and stop notification-daemon
[22:40] <seb128> or restart your session
[22:40] <BUGabundo> ok
[22:40] <BUGabundo> let me try
[22:41] <BUGabundo> seb128: done
[22:41] <seb128> BUGabundo, work better?
[22:42] <BUGabundo> no
[22:42] <seb128> wierd
[22:42] <seb128> can you ps ax | grep notifi
[22:42] <BUGabundo> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/112892/pop.png
[22:42] <BUGabundo>  1772 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/gnome-panel/notification-area-applet
[22:42] <seb128> is notify-osd installed?
[22:42] <seb128> can you run it manually?
[22:42] <BUGabundo> should be
[22:43] <BUGabundo> 1000     29284  0.3  0.3 312136 13968 ?        Sl   22:41   0:00 /usr/lib/notify-osd/notify-osd
[22:43] <BUGabundo> seb128: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/112892/send.png
[22:43] <seb128> BUGabundo, do it work for multimedia keys?
[22:43] <seb128> or using notify-send
[22:43] <seb128> ok
[22:44] <BUGabundo> that's a notify send test
[22:44] <seb128> so seems it's working
[22:44] <BUGabundo> yes
[22:44] <seb128> did you have to run it manually?
[22:44] <BUGabundo> yes
[22:44] <BUGabundo> but pidgin is still sending popups
[22:44] <BUGabundo> let me try gwibber
[22:45] <seb128> BUGabundo, do you have pidgin-libnotify installed?
[22:46] <BUGabundo> ii  pidgin-libnotify                      0.14-4ubuntu3                                            display notification bubbles in pidgin
[22:46] <BUGabundo> purgin
[22:46] <seb128> weird
[22:46] <seb128> the popup suggest you are getting notifications with actions
[22:46] <BUGabundo> correct
[22:47] <seb128> which piding should not do in ubuntu
[22:47] <BUGabundo> correct again
[22:47] <BUGabundo> but I have PPA version
[22:47] <seb128> oh
[22:47] <seb128> well, could be that then
[22:47] <BUGabundo> $ apt-cache policy pidgin | pastebinit
[22:47] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/565201/
[22:47] <BUGabundo> *** 1:2.7.9-1ubuntu2 0
[22:47] <BUGabundo>         500 mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/ natty/main amd64 Packages
[22:47] <BUGabundo> but its natty version installed
[22:48] <BUGabundo> seb128: let me restart pidgin
[22:48] <BUGabundo> could be locked into old daemon
[22:51] <BUGabundo> ping
[22:53] <BUGabundo> someone please ping me! thanks
[22:53] <micahg> !ping | BUGabundo
[22:53] <ubot4> BUGabundo: ping-pong, a fun game for all the family
[22:53] <BUGabundo> seb128: seems to be working
[22:56] <seb128> BUGabundo, ok, great