[05:06] <nigelb> .morning :)
[07:55] <kim0> Morning fellas o/
[07:56] <nigelb> morning kim0 :)
[07:57] <kim0> nigelb: hey, how's it going
[07:57] <nigelb> kim0: lazy morning.  We had a power outage here for like 4 hours or so.  Killed time with foosball :p
[07:57] <kim0> haha sounds great ;)
[08:01] <dholbach> good morning
[08:02] <nigelb> hey dholbach
[08:02] <nigelb> morning ara :)
[08:02] <dholbach> hi nigelb
[08:02] <kim0> dholbach: Morning
[08:02] <dholbach> hey kim0
[08:03] <nigelb> dholbach: Hey, a session idea for you to consider http://paste.ubuntu.com/564866/
[08:04] <dholbach> I like the idea, we just need to round up a bunch of people with their own projects
[08:04] <nigelb> shall we book a slot and start looking around for people?
[08:05] <dholbach> yeah, why not
[08:06] <nigelb> ok, I'll blog about it and if you can tweet from that ubuntu dev account, that would rock
[08:06] <nigelb> and we'll start rounding up people tonight ;)
[08:07] <dholbach> nigelb, shall we make it the last slot?
[08:07] <nigelb> yup!
[08:09] <dholbach> ok, I just updated the timetable again
[08:09] <nigelb> ouch
[08:09] <nigelb> I updated it too
[08:09] <dholbach> I updated your version I think
[08:09] <nigelb> oh, right :)
[08:09] <nigelb> do we want to link it up to another schedule page where people can sigh up?
[08:09] <nigelb> *sign
[08:09] <dholbach> we could probably do it at UDW/Sessions
[08:10] <nigelb> Ahh, yes, perfect
[08:10] <nigelb> dholbach: Also, amber shared her emails with the both of us.  We'd probably put them to good use later on once thins are confirmed
[08:11] <nigelb> *things
[08:12] <dholbach> I didn't look at it yet
[08:14] <dholbach> updated /Sessions
[08:15] <nigelb> super!
[08:15] <dholbach> hola dpm
[08:15] <nigelb> morning dpm
[08:16] <dpm> hola dholbach, nigelb :)
[08:28] <nigelb> I should have pinged daniel here :|
[08:29] <nigelb> http://justanothertriager.wordpress.com/2011/02/09/have-an-interesting-project-you-want-to-talk-about/
[08:29] <dholbach> nigelb, looks good to me
[08:29] <nigelb> \o/
[08:29] <nigelb> adding planet tag
[08:29] <dholbach> can you also add /Sessions so they add some kind of description in there?
[08:29] <dholbach> should take me just another 2 minutes to complete the page
[08:29] <dholbach> and everybody can go and add session description
[08:30] <nigelb> You mean link to /Sessions page?
[08:30] <nigelb> I did
[08:31] <dholbach> done
[08:32] <nigelb> woot
[08:32] <dholbach> I meant that we're still lacking some descriptions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Sessions :)
[08:32] <dholbach> and before I misinterpret sessions and what they're about......
[08:32] <nigelb> aah, I can do that
[08:32] <dholbach> but I can just go and mail all the session leaders
[08:32] <dholbach> I wanted to do that anyway
[08:33] <nigelb> I'll fill in what I can
[08:33] <nigelb> we'll eventually need to have the session leaders update it too
[08:34] <nigelb> s/update/update and confirm
[08:36] <dholbach> yep, that makes sense
[08:37] <dholbach> I'll take a break from UDW now - I guess we have to wait for US folks for the late slots anyway
[08:37] <dholbach> it's my patch pilot day today :)
[08:37] <dholbach> woohoo
[08:38] <nigelb> ok, all immediate stuff done.  back to work :)
[08:38] <dholbach> thanks nigelb
[08:38] <nigelb> :)
[12:33] <Pendulum> duanedesign: you're not still up are you?
[12:49] <nigelb> Pendulum: He's sleeping in today I guess :)
[12:49] <nigelb> Morning Pendulum :)
[12:50] <Pendulum> I thought he worked nights
[12:53] <nigelb> Ah, here I thought he had a whacky sleep cycle
[13:03] <doctormo> Pendulum: Do that too much and you end up with a puddin for a brain.
[13:03] <nigelb> I worked nights for 3 years.
[13:03] <nigelb> I figure my brain is closer to a pudding :p
[13:03] <Pici> mmm... pudding
[13:04] <Pendulum> I have never worked nights and my brain has been pudding for years :-/
[15:08] <akgraner> for those interested in Leadership Check this out - Gen. Hugh Shelton to Present 'Open Your World' Webinar - http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/News/Gen.-Hugh-Shelton-to-Present-Open-Your-World-Webinar
[15:09] <akgraner> Pete and I both served with Gen. Shelton (Pete had more face time with him than I); however, he rocks! :-D
[15:09] <akgraner> it's free to attend and you can ask your questions in advance as well...
[15:12] <AlanBell> not the chap who masticated his lunch then
[15:14] <akgraner> nah that was then Col. Burkhardt
[15:14] <doctormo> akgraner: sounds like you had fun, which part of the forces? (I presume us)
[15:15] <akgraner> Col. B was the 18th Airborne Corps G2 and thank goodness I didn't tell Gen. Shelton that...
[15:17] <akgraner> Army - he took over 18th Airborne Corps in 1993, so I was only there about 6 months while he was  - as I Left the Army in 1993.
[15:17] <doctormo> Interesting. A lot of my friends from school went to the forces, best job there is for some towns.
[15:19] <akgraner> I loved it... and miss it on a daily basis, I think once you are a solider its always in your blood...
[15:19] <akgraner> well gotta run :-)  if you are interested in leadership think about joining in on the webinar
[15:23] <paultag> doctormo: I have that -controls thing to do for studio? Are you going to crank out a glade for it?
[15:23] <doctormo> paultag: Are you going to get back to me with that list of things you need?
[15:24] <paultag> doctormo: it's on the wiki
[15:24] <doctormo> paultag: Unless you've updated the wiki, what you have isn't good enough to make a design.
[15:26] <paultag> doctormo: What's missing?
[15:29] <doctormo> paultag: I've made some notes for you:
[15:29] <doctormo> http://imagebin.org/136949
[15:29] <paultag> doctormo: I don't think you understand the point
[15:30] <jono> hey all
[15:30] <paultag> doctormo: the point is to *click* on something, and have it carry out the action. For the stuff you are marking no configuration, it's a button
[15:30] <doctormo> paultag: If you want a window with a giant button that says 'Go' I could do that. but please don't credit me.
[15:30] <paultag> doctormo: I just need the layout, that's it
[15:30] <paultag> doctormo: We need something that works, and will work for natty. It's crunch time and we need to ship something that will get the job done
[15:31] <paultag> doctormo: if you can't / don't want to, let me know
[15:34] <paultag> BBL, shoot me mail if you need to :)
[15:36] <doctormo> paultag: I'm sending you the glade, just agree not to credit me. It's bad design.
[16:00] <Guest69233> dpm, jcastro, dholbach, kim0 might be a few mins late, having some audio and skype issues here
[16:00] <dholbach> ok Guest69233 :)
[16:01] <dpm> :)
[16:01] <jcastro> heh
[16:01] <Guest69233> dammit
[16:01] <kim0> not just audio :)
[16:07] <jono_> dholbach, jcastro, dpm, kim0 think I have it fixed
[16:07] <jono_> lets do skype
[16:07] <jcastro> okey
[17:15] <vish> jcastro: hey.. you are a gnome foundations member, right?
[17:19] <dholbach> ok my friends
[17:19] <dholbach> I'm calling it a day
[17:19] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow
[17:30] <jcastro> vish: I think I'm expired
[17:31] <vish> oh! np.. was just wondering.. :)
[19:21] <czajkowski> what a flipping day. need a nap. Zzz
[19:46] <jcastro> http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/3202209062/progress-meters-quicklists-and-number-count-for-the
[19:46] <jcastro> IT IS NOW ON.
[19:56] <doctormo> jcastro: Do you know who introduced that progress feature?
[19:56] <jcastro> jason smith implemented it
[19:57] <doctormo> jcastro: I'm pondering if this feature is good enough novoucut and if it makes the progress-indicator redundant.
[19:57] <jcastro> like, if you're rendering or something?
[19:57] <jcastro> and you're waiting for the app to finish?
[19:57] <doctormo> yes
[19:57] <jcastro> this is exactly what this is for
[19:57] <doctormo> what if you're copying in nautilus, will that show up?
[19:58] <jcastro> well, it's currently an app indicator, we just need to make it do this instead
[19:58] <jcastro> which is trivial
[19:58] <jcastro> each of these is bitesize city
[20:00] <doctormo> jcastro: I should get Jason and jdrose into an irc room to thrash out any issues, what's his nick?
[20:00] <jcastro> dbo
[20:00] <doctormo> ayatana?
[20:00] <jcastro> if you send the guy to #ayatana or the ayatana-dev mailing list it would be swell
[20:01]  * jcastro would prefer more people posting on ayatana-dev so we can start building up a knowledge base
[20:01] <jcastro> but I won't complain. :)
[20:02] <doctormo> jcastro: The ayatana-dev list is limited to invite only, isn't it?
[20:02] <jcastro> nope
[20:03] <jcastro> anybody who is working on implementing stuff
[20:03] <jcastro> it's not the idea list like ayatana is
[20:03] <jcastro> it's the "how do I do this with unity or app indicators or whatever"
[20:03] <jcastro> ie. a working dev list
[20:04] <doctormo> jcastro: OK, talking to people now about it. thanks for the blog post.
[20:05] <jcastro> if they need anything lmk, I'd love to see people use the heck out of it
[20:08] <AlanBell> jcastro: a python unity places sample would be nice
[20:09] <jcastro> waiting on Gobject introspection
[20:09] <jcastro> very soon, mikkel is working on it
[20:09] <AlanBell> ok, cool
[20:09] <jcastro> AlanBell: both this progress stuff and Places uses libunity, so we'll get both with one stone
[20:09] <AlanBell> see my ideas?
[20:09] <jcastro> granted, a big stone that we need ....
[20:09] <jcastro> I did, that's nice
[20:09] <jcastro> I like tying into other server side things
[20:10] <doctormo> AlanBell: no where are they?
[20:10] <jcastro> especially the alfresco thing
[20:10] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Places/Ideas
[20:10] <AlanBell> bottom of the list https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Places/Ideas
[20:10] <jcastro> doctormo: ^
[20:11] <doctormo> thanks
[20:11] <AlanBell> the others seemed very home/consumer focused
[20:11] <jcastro> wiki ftw, different minds, etc.
[20:11] <jcastro> I had an idea for a byobu place
[20:11] <jcastro> originally they were going to be much more feature full
[20:12] <jcastro> but it got deferred
[20:12] <jcastro> I wanted to be able to render remote things on your servers with custome widgets, etc.
[20:15] <jcastro> doctormo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/testdrive/+bug/711915
[20:15] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 711915 in testdrive "Quicklist and progress bar support" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[20:15] <jcastro> here's an example
[20:17] <doctormo> jcastro: Example proposed intergration?
[20:18] <jcastro> yeah that's just one I happened to have filed
[20:18] <jcastro> over the next week I'll be filing them on other apps
[20:18] <jcastro> I've just mailed the transmission folks too
[20:19] <doctormo> jcastro: Example proposed intergration?
[20:19] <doctormo> How do you think this design compares to the indicator design? http://doctormo.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/progress-indicator.png
[20:19] <doctormo> jdrose is concerned that actions with no apps attached to them would be lost in the current design.
[21:29] <jono> jcastro, cool for our call now?
[21:29] <jcastro> yep!
[21:30] <jono> jcastro, can we do phone?
[21:30] <jcastro> gimme like 30 seconds!
[21:30] <jono> np
[21:31] <jcastro> jono: all set!
[21:31] <jono> jcastro, ok, will call your phone
[22:36] <cjohnston> jcastro: ping
[22:36] <cjohnston> or jono
[22:39] <cjohnston> jono: dont know if you saw it before you got booted.. ping ;-)
[22:40] <jono> cjohnston, hey otp
[22:40] <cjohnston> confirming sponsorship shouldnt be open still for uds-o?
[22:41] <cjohnston> (even though summit shows the application) I'm waiting for Daviey to merge in my patch to fix that
[22:57] <jcastro> cyphermox: !!!!
[22:57] <jcastro> cyphermox: hey, any update on multi monitor stuff?
[23:00] <cyphermox> jcastro, more or less... lamalex pinged me about it monday, I cleaned up my branch a bit but it's not completely working
[23:00] <jcastro> bummer
[23:00] <jcastro> I cheer for you
[23:00] <cyphermox> jcastro, it works when you start unity, but not when resolution changes
[23:01] <cyphermox> so it's what, 75% there I guess ? ;)
[23:02] <jcastro> but I should be good if I have a satic dual setup right?
[23:07] <cyphermox> jcastro, it works for me.. and afaik it works if it's not quite static but if you just sometimes boot with the external monitor, and sometimes not
[23:08] <jcastro> so like, how's it work for desktops?
[23:08] <jcastro> like just a normal dual head computer?
[23:08] <cyphermox> yeah
[23:08] <cyphermox> it boots, starts unity, and in theory, it's the end of the story ;)
[23:09] <cyphermox> panel and launcher stick to the primary display -- I'm not sure how much that ties in to the designs though, I have heard it didn't quite
[23:10] <cyphermox> I'm using it here with two screens at different resolutions, without it I could never reach the garbage bin ;)