| n1md4 | anyone using squeeze + dovecot? | 00:51 |
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| === MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller | ||
| n1md4 | Well, there are some sieve issues, but commenting out managesieve parts 'fixed' that. | 01:03 |
| === emma is now known as em | ||
| === monsterkiller is now known as MonsterKiller | ||
| phonex01 | hello guys i need help | 07:20 |
| phonex01 | i have problem with tor i cant connect to tor i have this mesg " connecting to a relay directory " ??? so whats the problem ?? | 07:21 |
| phonex01 | even i use bridges cz in my university they use smart filter proxy , | 07:21 |
| phonex01 | guys i need help !! | 07:23 |
| daubers | Morning | 07:36 |
| === MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller | ||
| === cps` is now known as cps | ||
| cps | morning peeps :) | 08:02 |
| * daubers makes some coffee | 08:02 | |
| * cps loves how he can't install packages using synaptic yet he can do so in the terminal | 08:04 | |
| smittix | Mornin | 08:15 |
| cps | hey smittix | 08:16 |
| DJones | Good morning all | 08:37 |
| BigRedS | Goood morning! | 08:39 |
| MartijnVdS | \o | 08:53 |
| AlanBell | o/ | 08:53 |
| MartijnVdS | de-tiling kitchen wall == noise | 08:53 |
| danfish | \o/ | 08:57 |
| danfish | oops, didn't mean the '\' | 08:58 |
| danfish | o/ | 08:58 |
| MartijnVdS | daubers: *\o/* | 09:00 |
| MartijnVdS | uhr | 09:00 |
| MartijnVdS | danfish: | 09:00 |
| MartijnVdS | danfish: or even *\o/* | 09:00 |
| smittix | :) | 09:02 |
| smittix | MartijnVdS: Is that a cheerleader? | 09:02 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | morning everyone. | 09:02 |
| MartijnVdS | smittix: 'tis | 09:05 |
| danfish | \o^ <--- teapot :) | 09:06 |
| MartijnVdS | <o/ | 09:07 |
| cps | hello | 09:07 |
| MartijnVdS | danfish: <O/ <- big teapot | 09:07 |
| cps | debian \o/ | 09:08 |
| danfish | MartijnVdS: vg :) | 09:08 |
| * AlanBell installs debian in a VM | 09:09 | |
| * TheOpenSourcerer updates eclipse on one machine and installs it on another. | 09:10 | |
| AlanBell | going to install eclipse in this debian VM | 09:11 |
| * MartijnVdS hands AlanBell some extra CPU power | 09:11 | |
| * AlanBell stares at a black window with nothing much happening in it | 09:11 | |
| MartijnVdS | exactly | 09:11 |
| cps | lol | 09:12 |
| AlanBell | hmm, bit of virtual CD activity for a minute, then nothing | 09:13 |
| AlanBell | could they not have done a splash screen or anything! | 09:13 |
| BigRedS | There is a splash screen | 09:13 |
| BigRedS | it normally comes up for about a week | 09:13 |
| AlanBell | seeing nothing in virtualbox | 09:13 |
| BigRedS | hmmm. It might be just taking a while... though it's had two minutes already | 09:14 |
| BigRedS | just use netbeans | 09:14 |
| BigRedS | or vim | 09:14 |
| BigRedS | :) | 09:14 |
| * AlanBell taps fingers | 09:14 | |
| * AlanBell looks at an ubuntu iso | 09:14 | |
| BigRedS | I very much liked netbeans for its "fix my file hierarchy" function | 09:14 |
| czajkowski | Aloha | 09:14 |
| AlanBell | I think my upstream adventure may be coming to an end | 09:15 |
| BigRedS | Have you tried running it in a terminal to see what's spat to stdout? | 09:15 |
| AlanBell | running virtualbox in a terminal? | 09:15 |
| cps | hello czajkowski | 09:15 |
| AlanBell | I don't think there would be any output from inside the VM | 09:16 |
| BigRedS | no, eclipse in a terminal in the vm | 09:16 |
| AlanBell | I can't get debian installer to start | 09:16 |
| BigRedS | I'm assuming you've a Debian VM up, and are waiting for eclipse to start inside it? | 09:16 |
| BigRedS | Ohhhhhhhh! | 09:16 |
| BigRedS | I thought it was eclipse that was broken | 09:16 |
| AlanBell | no, I am failing at the first hurdle | 09:16 |
| AlanBell | I need eclipse in a VM today, just thought I would use the shiny new debian 6 iso to create it | 09:17 |
| BigRedS | Shiny new Debian 6? | 09:17 |
| BigRedS | Debian stable doesn't come in 'shiny' or 'new' :) | 09:17 |
| AlanBell | so I see | 09:17 |
| AlanBell | or working | 09:17 |
| cps | BigRedS, I think Debian 6 is shiny and new :3 | 09:18 |
| cps | that's the main reason why I switched to it this morning | 09:18 |
| cps | another reason is because my hdd needed reformatting | 09:18 |
| BigRedS | cps, it's new, but I use it precisely because it's not shiny | 09:22 |
| * AlanBell installs ubuntu 10.10 in a vm | 09:25 | |
| nigelb | AlanBell: you run lucid? | 09:27 |
| nigelb | (I mean normally) | 09:27 |
| AlanBell | maverick | 09:27 |
| AlanBell | just I want to kind of have a VM per customer for dev work | 09:28 |
| nigelb | hehe | 09:28 |
| nigelb | good idea ;) | 09:28 |
| AlanBell | then I can move them to different machines, have different servers running on them, break my host operating system by doing silly things to it etc. | 09:29 |
| AlanBell | so why didn't debian 6 boot? | 09:29 |
| AlanBell | didn't even see grub happening | 09:30 |
| * BigRedS downloads a debian 6 iso | 09:30 | |
| * cps has all 8 DVD ISOs | 09:30 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Probly the "free" kernel. Maybe it needs some non-free firmware for the VM manager? | 09:30 |
| cps | well, all 8 DVDs for that matter :p | 09:30 |
| * cps installs kdenlive | 09:31 | |
| AlanBell | virtuabox boots a heap of other operating systems unmodified | 09:31 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Including OSX (although that does need modifying briefly). | 09:31 |
| BigRedS | There's a non-free install CD isn't there? | 09:32 |
| BigRedS | or do you need to do acrobatics to use external media? | 09:32 |
| AlanBell | http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=37704 | 09:33 |
| AlanBell | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=55568 | 09:34 |
| AlanBell | looks like it might be broken | 09:35 |
| popey | Morning all! | 09:35 |
| cps | morning popey :) | 09:36 |
| czajkowski | ▗ | 09:36 |
| czajkowski | ▛▚▀▖▞▀▖▙▀▖▛▀▖▄ ▛▀▖▞▀▌ ▛▀▖▞▀▖▛▀▖▞▀▖▌ ▌ | 09:36 |
| czajkowski | ▌▐ ▌▌ ▌▌ ▌ ▌▐ ▌ ▌▚▄▌ ▙▄▘▌ ▌▙▄▘▛▀ ▚▄▌ | 09:36 |
| czajkowski | ▘▝ ▘▝▀ ▘ ▘ ▘▀▘▘ ▘▗▄▘ ▌ ▝▀ ▌ ▝▀▘▗▄▘ | 09:36 |
| soneill | bad czajkowski | 09:36 |
| soneill | bad | 09:36 |
| cps | hahaha | 09:36 |
| gord | and my streak of randomly picking up bits of hardware and them working with ubuntu flawlessly continues, this week, some silly usb audio jack thing that is designed for a mac, woo | 09:36 |
| czajkowski | *grin* | 09:36 |
| * cps hi5's soneill | 09:36 | |
| * DJones takes glasses off & squints heavily to make sense of that | 09:37 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Hmm - Just got "invited" to let our son go on the school ski trip next Jan. £840 smackeroos! | 09:37 |
| cps | DJones, oh dear | 09:37 |
| BigRedS | Hah. Looks like debian has exactly the opposite of the problem Ubuntu does | 09:37 |
| gord | i don't use a monospace font for irc, its all gibberish to me ;) | 09:37 |
| cps | monospace fonts ftw | 09:37 |
| AlanBell | gibberish ftw | 09:37 |
| BigRedS | Where any given prerelease Ubuntu has been incredibly thoroughly tested in VBox but almost nowhere else, and apparently nobody thought to try Debian in a VM | 09:38 |
| DJones | gord: You'll have to leave -offtopic & defocus, that'll reduce the gibberish :) | 09:38 |
| MartijnVdS | BigRedS: debian on hardware, ubuntu in vm :) | 09:38 |
| czajkowski | TheOpenSourcerer: nice invite! | 09:38 |
| MartijnVdS | it's what they're for | 09:38 |
| BigRedS | MartijnVdS: yeah, I think that's the way round most people do it | 09:38 |
| gord | pre-release ubuntu gets tested on a *lot* of hardware | 09:39 |
| gord | believe me, i see the bug reports | 09:39 |
| BigRedS | Yeah, probably. Just from the MLs it appeared that 90% of the 'testers' were doing it in VBox on top of a stable install on the metal | 09:39 |
| BigRedS | the -user ML not testers | 09:39 |
| BigRedS | so, yeah, not at all representative. I was being a bit facetious :) | 09:40 |
| DJones | gord: Are you aware of a bug on natty with grub where the list of operating systems/kernels is corrupted & almost unreadable? | 09:40 |
| DJones | om | 09:40 |
| DJones | 09:22 < chupacabra> that message told me nothing i didn't know | 09:40 |
| DJones | Where did that come from | 09:40 |
| MartijnVdS | DJones: you use that list? :) | 09:40 |
| gord | DJones, nope, doesn't happen here either | 09:40 |
| DJones | gord: Hmmh, I'll have to have a look later, I did an upgrade at the weekend & the grub menu is virtually unreadable | 09:41 |
| DJones | MartijnVdS: Not really, it just appears because the machine has an XP install going back donkeys years | 09:41 |
| AlanBell | well ubuntu is installed and started, debian hasn't booted yet | 09:42 |
| screen-x | morning :) | 09:43 |
| cps | hey screen-x | 09:43 |
| cps | :) | 09:43 |
| screen-x | \o cps | 09:43 |
| DJones | gord: Sounds like the grub problem could be this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/701111 might try & diagnose/fix tonight if I get chance | 09:45 |
| lubotu3 | Ubuntu bug 701111 in grub2 (Ubuntu Natty) "corrupted and flashing grub screen on T400" [High,Triaged] | 09:45 |
| cps | hello bigcalm :) | 09:48 |
| bigcalm | Morning peeps :) | 09:48 |
| === screen-x` is now known as screen-x | ||
| JamesTait | Goeie dag, mense! | 09:57 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | how can I tell what arch my ubuntu is? i.e. 386 or 64bit | 09:57 |
| cps | uname -a I believe | 09:58 |
| cps | brb | 09:58 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | yep. eclipse wasn't booting on my lappy as it running i686 not x86_64. Doh. | 10:00 |
| davmor2 | morning all | 10:00 |
| * TheOpenSourcerer downloads helois again. | 10:00 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | s.helois/helios | 10:00 |
| nigelb | Morning TheOpenSourcerer, DaveMorris | 10:02 |
| DaveMorris | morning all | 10:03 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | hi nigelb | 10:03 |
| nigelb | o/ | 10:03 |
| nigelb | wait, I wanted to say good morning to davmor2 earlier ;) | 10:03 |
| nigelb | tabfail | 10:03 |
| davmor2 | morning nigelb | 10:04 |
| * cps returns | 10:07 | |
| * czajkowski slaps davmor2 and walks off | 10:14 | |
| n1md4 | BigRedS: Doh! | 10:14 |
| davmor2 | Yay! czajkowski is back prod | 10:14 |
| bigcalm | It's so peaceful when I forget to load Outlook in the morning | 10:28 |
| directhex | TheOpenSourcerer, you should use dpkg-architecture, as it's technically possible for uname to report something different to your ubuntu install | 10:31 |
| * davmor2 gives czajkowski a big hug | 10:32 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | directhex: Thanks. uname -a was correct in this instance but that is useful to know. | 10:33 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | alord@lobsang:~$ dpkg-architecture | 10:33 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | The program 'dpkg-architecture' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: | 10:33 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | sudo apt-get install dpkg-dev | 10:33 |
| directhex | heh | 10:33 |
| directhex | there's that, of course | 10:33 |
| screen-x | directhex: when would uname give the wrong answer? | 10:35 |
| BigRedS | When you've told dpkg to use some arch other than that which your kernel is | 10:37 |
| directhex | screen-x, when your kernel doesn't match your debian arch | 10:37 |
| directhex | screen-x, e.g. using an amd64 kernel with i386 userland | 10:37 |
| screen-x | directhex: ah ok, thanks. | 10:45 |
| dwatkins | or if you just installed a new kernel but havn't rebooted | 10:45 |
| directhex | or have an ARM chroot on amd64 :) | 10:45 |
| dwatkins | sounds funky, directhex | 10:45 |
| hoover | mornin folks | 10:47 |
| screen-x | sup hoover | 10:47 |
| dwatkins | ello | 10:47 |
| hoover | not much screen-x, yourself? | 10:48 |
| screen-x | work ticking over.. | 10:49 |
| hoover | yeah, same here... suffering from burn- and bore-out at the same time 8-P | 10:49 |
| screen-x | writing xml as a human is like trying to pursuade a robot to be more creative | 10:52 |
| smittix | Yawn | 10:54 |
| smittix | Coffee Just isn't working today | 10:55 |
| X3N | have an apple | 10:59 |
| X3N | or apple juice | 10:59 |
| jpds | X3N: Both? | 10:59 |
| X3N | or both | 10:59 |
| * screen-x forgot his lunch :( | 11:00 | |
| X3N | same :( | 11:00 |
| screen-x | I even got it all ready in a plastic box | 11:01 |
| BigRedS | I bought mine on the way in today... | 11:03 |
| smittix | X3N: Yeah, I heard an apple works just as good as a latte! | 11:06 |
| rowinggolfer | good morning | 11:09 |
| popey | hi rowinggolfer | 11:10 |
| rowinggolfer | hi popey. | 11:15 |
| rowinggolfer | popey, I've been writing a little app. | 11:15 |
| AlanBell | o/ | 11:15 |
| rowinggolfer | not ready for mainstream yet, but it has got some viral attention this am | 11:15 |
| AlanBell | we were talking to someone yesterday about openmolar | 11:15 |
| rowinggolfer | http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/auteur-is-new-non-linear-video-editor.html | 11:15 |
| rowinggolfer | AlanBell, I am working on a postgres version of that. | 11:16 |
| rowinggolfer | which will be much better than my original hack. | 11:16 |
| AlanBell | how about an openERP module? | 11:16 |
| AlanBell | which has postgres at the back end | 11:16 |
| AlanBell | and is written in python | 11:17 |
| rowinggolfer | not familiar with openERP | 11:17 |
| AlanBell | http://www.openerp.com/ | 11:17 |
| BigRedS | I'm after a way of seeing each redirect my browser follows. Any suggestions of plugins? I specifically don't want to prevent it following them, though | 11:17 |
| rowinggolfer | BigRedS, which browser? | 11:17 |
| BigRedS | I'm using firefox by default, but I don't really mind which I use for this | 11:18 |
| rowinggolfer | AlanBell, that looks very interesting | 11:18 |
| shauno | BigRedS: I use a ff plugin 'live http headers'. would fit the bill, but perhaps overly verbose | 11:21 |
| dogmatic69 | BigRedS: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/live-http-headers/ | 11:21 |
| dogmatic69 | heh | 11:21 |
| BigRedS | shauno: dogmatic69 Cheers! | 11:22 |
| AlanBell | rowinggolfer: we had a nice long meeting in a pub with this partner http://www.openerp.com/node/554 | 11:24 |
| AlanBell | they are interested in openerp for primary care | 11:24 |
| popey | rowinggolfer: "Yay!" Just what linux needs! Another non-linear video editor ;) | 11:29 |
| BigRedS | shauno: dogmatic69 live http headers just worked perfectly. Cheers! | 11:30 |
| dogmatic69 | np | 11:30 |
| popey | rowinggolfer: can I recommend you create a separate ppa rather than have just one personal one? | 11:30 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: it's easier to build your own than it is to fix an existing one | 11:30 |
| popey | apparently so | 11:30 |
| rowinggolfer | popey, good point. | 11:30 |
| rowinggolfer | popey, like I said... I wasn't really expecting any movement yet. | 11:31 |
| popey | looks nice | 11:32 |
| directhex | AlanBell, we've been trying a new ERP path | 11:33 |
| rowinggolfer | popey, ty | 11:33 |
| gord | i tried to use pitivi to do a simple task the other week, didn't end well.. sucks we don't have a good video editor yet | 11:35 |
| popey | pitivi crashes reliably with any video from my camera :( | 11:36 |
| rowinggolfer | the problem with pitivi... IMHO is that gstreamer takes it down. | 11:36 |
| rowinggolfer | I suspect 99% of pitivi issues are actually gstreamer issues. | 11:37 |
| directhex | popey, i'd blame those greasy monkeys at collabora multimedia for any and all pitivi issues | 11:38 |
| popey | yeah | 11:38 |
| rowinggolfer | and the majority of those are down to being pc with codecs. | 11:38 |
| popey | :) | 11:38 |
| rowinggolfer | popey.. have you seen bug no 1 for auteur ? | 11:38 |
| popey | no | 11:40 |
| popey | url? | 11:40 |
| rowinggolfer | http://bugs.launchpad.net/auteur | 11:40 |
| popey | haha | 11:43 |
| popey | bug 715104 | 11:43 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 715104 in Auteur "Final Cut Pro has majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/715104 | 11:43 |
| bigcalm | Heh | 11:44 |
| screen-x | !info lombard | 11:44 |
| lubotu3 | Package lombard does not exist in maverick | 11:44 |
| screen-x | well thats one less. | 11:45 |
| * cps returns from a nice soak in a hot bath | 11:50 | |
| daubers | I quite like FCP | 11:54 |
| daubers | Plays nice with shared storage :) | 11:54 |
| screen-x | daubers: hows your uber busy febuary going? | 11:56 |
| daubers | screen-x: Busy :( | 11:56 |
| daubers | screen-x: Got home at 11:30 monday, got home at 8:45 yesterday. looks like I'll be working till 7 tonight too | 11:56 |
| screen-x | minions+=1 | 11:57 |
| daubers | and no-one sells decent SCSI cables anymore so I'm having to get some custom made! | 11:57 |
| screen-x | sas? | 11:57 |
| directhex | scsi is ancient history | 11:57 |
| daubers | screen-x: Way things are going within 6 months minions+=2 | 11:57 |
| directhex | it's like complaining they don't sell morse code transmitters at currys | 11:58 |
| daubers | screen-x: Tape drives don't take SAS yet | 11:58 |
| daubers | also, customer supplied that tape drives | 11:58 |
| screen-x | is there any advantage of sas of sata for ssd? | 12:00 |
| MartijnVdS | not really | 12:00 |
| daubers | Nope, drive speed is the bottleneck | 12:00 |
| MartijnVdS | PCI-E SSDs ++ | 12:00 |
| screen-x | MartijnVdS: to they have SATA controllers on board, or are they completely new controllers? | 12:01 |
| MartijnVdS | screen-x: they're completely new controllers | 12:01 |
| screen-x | hmmm, so compatibility issues? | 12:02 |
| MartijnVdS | screen-x: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3eFgClKGMc | 12:02 |
| BigRedS | AlanBell: which ISO were you using earlier for Debian? | 12:09 |
| BigRedS | I've an installer going now | 12:09 |
| BigRedS | in vbox | 12:09 |
| screen-x | MartijnVdS: no audio here, so cant hear what he's saying, but there are some big number on the screen behind.. | 12:10 |
| AlanBell | debian 6 64 bit | 12:10 |
| BigRedS | AlanBell: this claims to do both | 12:10 |
| BigRedS | the netinstall | 12:10 |
| BigRedS | I say 'claims'. I've just seen the file name has "-amd64-i386-" in the name | 12:11 |
| DJones | AlanBell: Is this any interest to you http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/09/michael_meeks_talks_libreoffice/ | 12:17 |
| czajkowski | He's a very good speaker | 12:18 |
| BigRedS | I quite enjoyed that talk | 12:18 |
| BigRedS | was not expecting to find myself interested in an office suite | 12:19 |
| * czajkowski spent most of the Sunday in the Libre office room | 12:19 | |
| BigRedS | Ah, I was in perl and cloud | 12:20 |
| BigRedS | mixture of obsolescence and buzzwords | 12:20 |
| ajbinnie | hi folks, anyone had any experience with setting up ekiga for BT broadband talk? | 12:27 |
| === TheAshMan is now known as ls12styler | ||
| AlanBell | DJones: it is of general interest to me and I will be going along to the plugfest thing | 12:37 |
| DeathSling | i've lost my ssh connection to my server.... and at home, arhh f... | 13:28 |
| SuperMatt | oopsy | 13:37 |
| SuperMatt | I try to avoid doing install remotely | 13:37 |
| SuperMatt | in case that kind of thing happens | 13:38 |
| SuperMatt | same with rebooting | 13:38 |
| screen-x | This is a great advantage of VMs (as long as you have access to the host..) | 13:39 |
| screen-x | or ipmi.. | 13:39 |
| davmor2 | screen-x: or the wonders of byobu/screen in that if you lose your connection you can log back in and pick up where you left off | 13:40 |
| davmor2 | DeathSling: How did you lose it, did you have to reboot in which case you might need to give it a couple of seconds before you reconnect | 13:41 |
| screen-x | davmor2: screen doesn't help you much if you need to reboot a remote box.. | 13:41 |
| davmor2 | screen-x: this is true but if you lose your connection while it's up it does :) | 13:42 |
| screen-x | yep :) | 13:42 |
| screen-x | screen -x \o/ | 13:42 |
| DeathSling | i waited, i can ping it but connection is now refused. Was looking to see if it has anything to do with libvirt | 13:42 |
| davmor2 | screen-x: byobu ftw | 13:42 |
| screen-x | screen -x works fine with byobu.. | 13:43 |
| screen-x | though sadly it isnt required as often, as byobu auto rejoins the runnins session. | 13:43 |
| brobostigon | afternoonings everyone. | 13:43 |
| screen-x | afternoon brobostigon | 13:43 |
| davmor2 | screen-x: I know but if you lose connection you just need to log back in and byobu automatically reconnects you :D | 13:44 |
| brobostigon | stupid apt, it wanted to remove xserver-xorg, :( | 13:44 |
| DeathSling | hi | 13:44 |
| screen-x | brobostigon: apt knows best, maybe you shouldnt be using X? | 13:44 |
| brobostigon | afternoonings DeathSling and davmor2 nd screen-x | 13:44 |
| brobostigon | screen-x: i dont think it does inthis case. | 13:45 |
| davmor2 | brobostigon: lo | 13:45 |
| screen-x | brobostigon: screen+links+irssi+mutt, sorted ;-) | 13:45 |
| brobostigon | screen-x: fairpoint. | 13:46 |
| DeathSling | i was ssh'ing to the host and trying to setup a virtual guest remotly. everything was fine until now when i rebooted | 13:46 |
| screen-x | DeathSling: did you add the host's nic to a bridge? | 13:46 |
| brobostigon | so i let it remove xorg, and reinstalled it again, apt defeated, | 13:47 |
| DeathSling | did but then removed it, didn't on the second host, but have lost both | 13:47 |
| DeathSling | after i changed sshd_config's port I restarted networking and loged on remotely | 13:48 |
| davmor2 | screen-x: don't forget the nano | 13:48 |
| screen-x | s/nano/vim/g | 13:48 |
| davmor2 | nano ftw | 13:49 |
| brobostigon | nano seems to be the simplest, and easiest to learn. | 13:49 |
| DeathSling | since then I have installed virtinst | 13:49 |
| screen-x | vim is awesome and ubiquitous, what more could you want ;-) | 13:50 |
| MartijnVdS | screen-x: http://secretgeek.net/fuv_intro.asp | 13:50 |
| davmor2 | screen-x: nano! | 13:50 |
| screen-x | MartijnVdS: haha | 13:50 |
| brobostigon | screen-x: it not good to learn. more or less impossible. | 13:50 |
| screen-x | MartijnVdS: reminds me of http://www.dangermouse.net/esoteric/petrovich.html | 13:52 |
| shauno | I used to think vim was perfectly sane. until I had to use it on a terminal which didn't have cursor keys recently | 13:52 |
| screen-x | hjkl | 13:53 |
| * brobostigon found salt and vinegar pringles while shopping today,yummy, | 13:53 | |
| brobostigon | :) | 13:53 |
| DeathSling | lol | 13:54 |
| shauno | hjkl on a dvorak keymap is mindbending | 13:54 |
| screen-x | ahh yes, I can see that causing fury | 13:55 |
| dwatkins | How often does one type hjkl? | 14:07 |
| andylockran | howdy guys | 14:07 |
| andylockran | czajkowski: playing rugby for the first time in AGES tonight :s | 14:07 |
| screen-x | dwatkins: vim command mode motion | 14:08 |
| shauno | dwatkins: they're left/down/up/right in vim, so either a lot, or never, depending on whether you have cursor keys available | 14:08 |
| popey | and depending on whether you use vim :) | 14:08 |
| popey | * Note: Other editors are available :) | 14:08 |
| dwatkins | oh I see, shauno - no cursor keys? | 14:09 |
| shauno | a 'dumb' terminal (as a description of offence, rather than the technical meaning), that didn't understand them properly. and not using it long enough to care to fight for them | 14:10 |
| czajkowski | Glee is addictive | 14:10 |
| popey | Lies | 14:12 |
| popey | Watched one episode. thought it was bobbins, never watched another. | 14:12 |
| DeathSling | HAHA my f-up with ssh was due to me having bad drbd.conf (someone was able to look at the screen for me and press a magical button of 'abort') | 14:12 |
| popey | I am however neither female nor gay, so not in the target demographic :) | 14:12 |
| czajkowski | popey: yer very odd at times | 14:12 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | !info popey | 14:18 |
| lubotu3 | Package popey does not exist in maverick | 14:18 |
| popey | \o/ | 14:18 |
| popey | !popey | 14:18 |
| lubotu3 | popey is the UK alternative to elvis. | 14:18 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | That's the cookie. | 14:18 |
| czajkowski | never ceases to make me laugh | 14:18 |
| davmor2 | popey: you got through an episode | 14:18 |
| popey | \o/ hamitron | 14:21 |
| bigcalm | Bobbins, great term | 14:22 |
| popey | :) | 14:22 |
| hamitron | hi popey :) | 14:22 |
| popey | hullo | 14:22 |
| popey | you've been missed | 14:22 |
| hamitron | awwww \o/ | 14:22 |
| hamitron | well, back now, after 5 days of toothache | 14:22 |
| hamitron | bit behind with some work I got here still :/ | 14:22 |
| popey | ouch | 14:23 |
| czajkowski | evil tooth aches | 14:23 |
| hamitron | plus for some weird reason, my ISP have not been always giving me an IP | 14:23 |
| hamitron | which hasn't been great | 14:23 |
| bigcalm | ? | 14:24 |
| bigcalm | If you have no IP then you have no connection | 14:24 |
| hamitron | I know | 14:24 |
| hamitron | :/ | 14:24 |
| bigcalm | Ah :( | 14:25 |
| hamitron | I am wondering if maybe my router was not loading the TCP module correctly | 14:25 |
| hamitron | seems ok atm | 14:25 |
| hamitron | I was not in the mood to phone some foreign support line whilst I was in pain, and now it is just working, so guess they've had a lucky escape | 14:27 |
| hamitron | does it again and I will moan and complain as normal :) | 14:27 |
| * popey invites hamitron to #ubuntu-uk-minecraft :) | 14:33 | |
| hamitron | we not allowed to talk it here now? ;) | 14:34 |
| * BigRedS wants a multi-server capable minecraft client | 14:35 | |
| hamitron | why? ;/ | 14:35 |
| hamitron | a distributed server network server mode would interest me more | 14:36 |
| hamitron | merge existing server worlds into 1 big world sorta thing :D | 14:36 |
| pr0ph3t | hi all | 14:38 |
| pr0ph3t | in natty canberra-gtk-play seems to have disappeared, do you have the same problem? | 14:39 |
| * dwatkins notes that the flash player update that fixes fullscreen playback on dual monitors is also available for linux | 14:43 | |
| dogmatic69 | what was the issue there? | 14:44 |
| dwatkins | dogmatic69: it would un-fullscreen when you clicked the other display, dogmatic69 | 14:44 |
| dogmatic69 | ah | 14:44 |
| dogmatic69 | cool | 14:44 |
| dogmatic69 | how about the 'picture freezes in full screen' | 14:44 |
| dwatkins | I'm not aware of there being a problem with that, dogmatic69. | 14:45 |
| dogmatic69 | http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110101123009AAMo0et | 14:46 |
| dwatkins | Does this happen reproducably on your system, dogmatic69? | 14:47 |
| dogmatic69 | dwatkins: ye i even found a fix | 14:47 |
| dogmatic69 | i could not play full screen on anything, ff, chrome etc | 14:47 |
| dwatkins | What's the fix, dogmatic69? | 14:47 |
| dogmatic69 | any site, youtube, iplayer etc | 14:48 |
| dwatkins | What was the fix? | 14:49 |
| AlanBell | dwatkins: is that an update from adobe or is it sensibly packaged? | 14:49 |
| AlanBell | or is it even a sensibly packaged update from adobe? | 14:49 |
| dwatkins | it updated automatically on my machine, AlanBell, but I'm not running a linux at the moment | 14:49 |
| dogmatic69 | it was, right click -> display -> turn off hardware acceleration, then add a line (dont remeber) to a file (dont remeber) that disabled some validation in the data apparently and then restart browser and put the hardware acceleration back on | 14:49 |
| dogmatic69 | looking for the line added now | 14:49 |
| dogmatic69 | another one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/686035 | 14:50 |
| lubotu3 | Ubuntu bug 686035 in firefox (Ubuntu) "when I "fullscreen" youtube video,it stops" [Undecided,New] | 14:50 |
| dogmatic69 | dwatkins: it was on my laptop which the gfx is not proper supported also. | 14:50 |
| dwatkins | AlanBell: it's available as an RPM or a DEB | 14:51 |
| dwatkins | also a tar.gz or YUM, but those are a little less useful to us | 14:51 |
| dwatkins | dogmatic69: were you using the stable release version of the player and the OS itself? | 14:52 |
| dogmatic69 | dwatkins: 10.10 all the updates and stuff from apt-get | 14:52 |
| dwatkins | What hardware, specifically the graphics card, dogmatic69? | 14:53 |
| dogmatic69 | not sure | 14:53 |
| dwatkins | knowing that would really help, do you have the same issue on your current machine if you enable hardware acceleration, dogmatic69? | 14:54 |
| dogmatic69 | sudo echo \"OverrideGPUValidation = 1\" >> /etc/adobe/mms.cfg | 14:54 |
| dogmatic69 | what can i run to get the hardware dump | 14:54 |
| dwatkins | pastebin me an "lspci -vv" if you would, please | 14:55 |
| * dwatkins notes you can stop youtube from automatically playing videos | 14:55 | |
| dogmatic69 | bin.cakephp.org/view/425645868 | 14:56 |
| dogmatic69 | that was the cmd i ran btw... and now it works | 14:57 |
| dogmatic69 | :) | 14:57 |
| dwatkins | excellent, it shouldn't need acceleration turned off, that's what concerns me | 14:57 |
| dogmatic69 | i put it back on | 14:57 |
| dwatkins | does the original problem still occur? | 14:58 |
| dogmatic69 | nope | 14:58 |
| dogmatic69 | it can now play in full screen | 14:58 |
| dogmatic69 | omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/fixing-fullscreen-flash-in-ubuntu-10-04 | 15:00 |
| dogmatic69 | thats where i found the fix | 15:01 |
| dwatkins | I'd be interested if it's still an issue in the new version, 10.2 | 15:02 |
| dwatkins | s/interested/interested to hear/ | 15:02 |
| dogmatic69 | im updating now | 15:03 |
| dogmatic69 | i should just remove that line and try? | 15:03 |
| dwatkins | yes, set it back to the default please | 15:04 |
| dogmatic69 | nope its broke | 15:06 |
| dogmatic69 | hmm | 15:07 |
| dogmatic69 | works in chrome | 15:07 |
| dogmatic69 | broken in ff still | 15:07 |
| dogmatic69 | never mind, just closed and opened full screen and its borked in chrome too | 15:08 |
| dwatkins | I assume nothing much else is running and the video itself is downloaded okay, and the same machine is able to play fullscreen video ok in general, dogmatic69 | 15:10 |
| dogmatic69 | dwatkins: i paste that line in the file F5 and it works, remove the line and F5 then it dont | 15:13 |
| cps-thinkpad | afternoon | 15:15 |
| dwatkins | The line containing "OverrideGPUValidation", dogmatic69? | 15:15 |
| dogmatic69 | yip | 15:15 |
| dwatkins | dogmatic69: I am concerned that means the problem resides with the driver and flash player interaction, but I don't know much about that level of things. | 15:16 |
| dogmatic69 | sounds like it | 15:16 |
| dwatkins | I would probably need to talk to a gfx driver expert, are you able to tell me what exact graphics driver you have installed, dogmatic69? | 15:17 |
| dogmatic69 | its a packard bell easynote | 15:17 |
| dogmatic69 | good luck finding *any* info on that | 15:17 |
| brobostigon | xorgs llog should say whatdriver sis being used. | 15:17 |
| dogmatic69 | unless there are some linux commands, there is no data on the net for them | 15:18 |
| dwatkins | as brobostigon says, and also the output of xdpyinfo and/or glxinfo, iirc | 15:18 |
| dwatkins | you can just pipe them all into the pastebin command, I imagine | 15:18 |
| dogmatic69 | how? | 15:18 |
| brobostigon | glxinfo | pastebinit | 15:18 |
| brobostigon | | is a pipe. | 15:19 |
| dwatkins | I have to go to a meeting, but will remain logged-in unless my server happens to experience a catastrophic failure... | 15:20 |
| dogmatic69 | glxinfo? | 15:20 |
| dogmatic69 | dont have that and apt-get dont know about it | 15:21 |
| brobostigon | dogmatic69: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get intall glxinfo | 15:21 |
| dogmatic69 | xdpyinfo: pastebin.com/dJ0DmMYJ | 15:22 |
| screen-x | !info mesa-utils | 15:22 |
| lubotu3 | mesa-utils (source: mesa-demos): Miscellaneous Mesa GL utilities. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.0.1-0ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 26 kB, installed size 132 kB | 15:22 |
| dogmatic69 | brobostigon: E: unable to locate package glxinfo | 15:22 |
| screen-x | dogmatic69: its in mesa-utils | 15:22 |
| brobostigon | dogmatic69: doas screen-x said, replace glxinfo with mesa-utils | 15:23 |
| dogmatic69 | glxinfo: pastebin.com/E1TVSQUC | 15:24 |
| === fabien is now known as Guest30999 | ||
| * screen-x enjoyed living in guidlford. | 15:55 | |
| screen-x | err that'd be wrong window... | 15:55 |
| === monsterkiller is now known as MonsterKiller | ||
| danfish | screen-x: giudlford - is that the town where everyone is known by their own unique number rather than name :P | 15:57 |
| danfish | hah - s/giud/guid :D | 15:57 |
| brobostigon | lol | 15:57 |
| brobostigon | "i am not a number, i am a man!!" quote, number 6. | 15:59 |
| screen-x | danfish: see what you did there ;-) | 15:59 |
| screen-x | . /nick 2e1384e1-099c-8daa-e368-bf24bd0fce41 | 15:59 |
| dutchie | making absolutely really sure you didn't accidentally run that one :P | 15:59 |
| DJones | screen-x: Is that an IPV6 nick? | 16:00 |
| danfish | 2e1384e1-099c-8daa-e368-bf24bd0fce41 <-- rolls off the tongue well doesn't it - can we just call you 2e for short? | 16:00 |
| MartijnVdS | danfish: "e41" | 16:00 |
| brobostigon | DJones: lol, :) | 16:01 |
| andylockran | hey guys | 16:06 |
| andylockran | I'm trying to get a mail alias to run a script for me | 16:06 |
| brobostigon | shwmae andylockran | 16:06 |
| andylockran | at the moment it does it fine | 16:07 |
| andylockran | however, I want the bash script to run ssh $remote -x /path/to/command/ | 16:07 |
| andylockran | I've setup ssh keys, but how do I run that command so that it picks up the ssh key for the right user? | 16:07 |
| dutchie | andylockran: -i /path/to/ssh/key | 16:10 |
| dutchie | or use .ssh/config | 16:10 |
| andylockran | dutchie: ta | 16:10 |
| andylockran | :) | 16:10 |
| andylockran | second question.. | 16:10 |
| andylockran | how can I parse the contents of the email using that script? | 16:10 |
| andylockran | i.e. aliases says 247support: |/bin/support.sh | 16:10 |
| Azelphur | Haha, android is about to become the #1 gaming portable | 16:15 |
| Azelphur | HTC Just chucked 40 mill at OnLive | 16:15 |
| screen-x | andylockran: I guess there are the two standard answers, use a library that does it properly, or just extract what you need with a bunch of regexes | 16:16 |
| bigcalm | Any Brummies about atm? | 16:22 |
| bigcalm | We're seeing Punt & Dennis at Birmingham Town Hall tonight. Which would be the best car park to use? | 16:22 |
| cps | hello | 16:28 |
| brobostigon | afternoonings cps :) | 16:29 |
| cps | hey brobostigon, how's you? :) | 16:29 |
| brobostigon | cps: tired, and worn out. how about you? | 16:30 |
| cps | brobostigon, tired as well | 16:30 |
| cps | couldn't sleep last night, which was a bit of a bother | 16:30 |
| * brobostigon hugs cps | 16:30 | |
| * cps hugs brobostigon back :) | 16:30 | |
| brobostigon | :) | 16:31 |
| brobostigon | cps: i havent been sleeping too well recently either, | 16:31 |
| cps | brobostigon, yeah. I think the trip I went on 2 weeks ago would have something to do with it | 16:32 |
| cps | went down to preston with my mates | 16:32 |
| cps | had to get up at half four in the morning | 16:32 |
| cps | I was tired when I got home but for some reason I couldn't sleep | 16:32 |
| brobostigon | cps: yes, i think that migh have thrown your sleeping patterns out. | 16:33 |
| cps | I often end up sleeping during the day | 16:34 |
| brobostigon | makes sense, your body is still trying to keep up, when it cant. you need to straighten your sleep patterns out again. | 16:36 |
| * brobostigon scp's cps a fresh pot of coffee. | 16:47 | |
| cps | thanks brobostigon :) | 16:48 |
| brobostigon | you're welcome :) | 16:48 |
| shauno | I wonder if it's sensible to be disappointed that my employer have changed my email address from a TLA, to something long and ugly :( | 16:59 |
| cps | that'll be my thinkpad running out of battery power then | 16:59 |
| * cps can't be bothered recharging it at the moment | 16:59 | |
| === MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller | ||
| Azelphur | hmm, I think nautilus is leaking memory o.O | 17:22 |
| Azelphur | It's using 1.7GB right now | 17:22 |
| brobostigon | :( | 17:22 |
| rowinggolfer_ | Azelphur, that always happens to me when I browse .hidden in my Videos folder ;) | 17:24 |
| Azelphur | haha | 17:24 |
| rowinggolfer_ | actually I'm loving F3 in nautilus | 17:29 |
| BigRedS | F3? | 17:33 |
| pr0ph3t | hi all | 17:40 |
| dutchie | BigRedS: splits the window | 17:40 |
| brobostigon | afternoonings pr0ph3t | 17:40 |
| pr0ph3t | how do I add a kernel command asus_laptop.wwan_status=1 (asus_laptop is a module)? | 17:42 |
| directhex | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line in /etc/default/grub | 17:43 |
| directhex | then update-grub | 17:43 |
| AlanBell | directhex: what is your new ERP direction? | 17:43 |
| pr0ph3t | thanks | 17:43 |
| BigRedS | dutchie: ahhh | 17:43 |
| directhex | AlanBell, project open. it's in tcl! need to trial it | 17:44 |
| AlanBell | tcl, what fun | 17:45 |
| * AlanBell tickles tcl | 17:45 | |
| === dave is now known as Guest38650 | ||
| czajkowski | tcl is not nice | 17:47 |
| HazRPG | hey all :) \o | 17:53 |
| brobostigon | afternoonings HazRPG :) | 17:53 |
| HazRPG | brobostigon: afternoon :) | 17:54 |
| HazRPG | brobostigon: Apparently my extension on google's site has "73" weekly users :) | 17:55 |
| brobostigon | HazRPG: cool, :) | 17:55 |
| brobostigon | welldone. | 17:56 |
| dogmatic69 | HazRPG: what extention is that? | 17:56 |
| HazRPG | dogmatic69: its basically an updated version of the Google RSS Subscribe extension to allow for programs you may have installed on your PC | 17:57 |
| dogmatic69 | ah ok | 17:58 |
| HazRPG | so instead of just being able to subscribe to online RSS readers, you can pick say Juice for your podcasts | 17:58 |
| HazRPG | main reason was because I was upset that there wasn't an extension to load up my RSS feeds into Juice | 17:59 |
| HazRPG | https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/gmkbolemmamlpfbnieckhgaghdccmkhe?hl=en <== | 17:59 |
| rowinggolfer_ | BigRedS, F3 is the split pane view. | 18:02 |
| pr0ph3t | hey all, do I close a bug report myself if I opened it or should I let someone else decide? | 18:10 |
| pr0ph3t | bug #700627 | 18:12 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 700627 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Huawei E620/EM770 not working: Network Manager switches 3G modem radio off at boot" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/700627 | 18:12 |
| shauno | I think I'd be tempted to leave that one open for, so they can track whether that requires a fix that needs to be integrated (assuming you're not the only person in the world with that ubuntu on an asus laptop, using that modem) | 18:14 |
| AlanBell | looks like more of a workarround has been discovered rather than a fix | 18:14 |
| AlanBell | ask in #ubuntu-bugs about it | 18:14 |
| pr0ph3t | thanks will do | 18:16 |
| * cps retreats to his bed | 18:17 | |
| cps | absolutely tired | 18:17 |
| cps | o/ | 18:17 |
| brobostigon | good night cps :) | 18:17 |
| davmor2 | has everyone seen this http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2011/02/09/can-we-run-pc-pro-on-ubuntu/ | 18:29 |
| BigRedS | well of course they can | 18:31 |
| davmor2 | BigRedS: We know that :) be interesting to follow and chip in with any help they may need though :) | 18:32 |
| BigRedS | haha, I can't help but think the "can we 'really' run our PCs on Ubuntu" kinda keeps up this idea that you can't | 18:32 |
| BigRedS | but I'm exposed less and less to people who don't already, I suppose | 18:33 |
| daubers | Evening | 18:35 |
| czajkowski | Myrtti: http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/inspect-a-gadget/2011/02/breaking-nokia-hardware-to-adopt-windows-phone-7-instead-of-symbian-and-meego.html | 18:41 |
| brobostigon | you can run android on an n900. | 18:42 |
| * brobostigon thinks a chilli is in order. | 18:43 | |
| Myrtti | czajkowski: bft. | 18:53 |
| Myrtti | czajkowski: I wonder why they are still hiring MeeGo engineers to Helsinki if they're dropping it | 18:54 |
| czajkowski | aye | 18:54 |
| czajkowski | :( | 18:54 |
| Myrtti | so, I doubt they are | 18:54 |
| Myrtti | dropping it, I mean | 18:54 |
| daubers | cor blimey, pre3 has a 1.4GHz processor in it | 18:58 |
| MartijnVdS | pre3? | 18:59 |
| daubers | Palm/HP Phone :) | 18:59 |
| MartijnVdS | Ah, not a beta release :) | 18:59 |
| daubers | Heh, that was the Pre 2 | 18:59 |
| dutchie | my last laptop was only 1.6GHz | 18:59 |
| daubers | The WebOS tablet looks quite nice too | 19:01 |
| === risc is now known as eurisko | ||
| daubers | http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/09/live-from-hp-palms-think-beyond-webos-event/?sort=newest&refresh=60 If you're interested | 19:01 |
| Azelphur | Daviey: what happened? | 19:15 |
| Azelphur | explosions D: | 19:18 |
| Azelphur | Daviey: explosions? D: | 19:18 |
| Azelphur | popey: care to send an SMS davieys way telling him katana.vpserve.com has 50% packet loss? | 19:18 |
| Daviey | Azelphur, "Fun | 19:19 |
| popey | i am not his secretary | 19:19 |
| Azelphur | ah here he is anyway :P | 19:19 |
| Daviey | popey, I wish you were.... :) | 19:19 |
| popey | only on tuesdays | 19:19 |
| popey | oh | 19:19 |
| popey | i read that as "you wish you were" | 19:19 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 19:19 |
| mfraz74 | popey: what's the release schedule for UUPC? | 19:19 |
| popey | "soon" | 19:20 |
| mfraz74 | :) | 19:20 |
| popey | :) | 19:20 |
| popey | we're working on stuff at the moment | 19:20 |
| popey | new website etc | 19:20 |
| MartijnVdS | *\o/* UUPC people *\o/* | 19:20 |
| popey | heh | 19:21 |
| popey | we also have new segments planned :) | 19:21 |
| popey | which should be fun | 19:21 |
| czajkowski | ohh | 19:33 |
| czajkowski | :D | 19:33 |
| czajkowski | sounds fun | 19:34 |
| smittix | Evening all | 19:38 |
| === cbx333 is now known as cbx33 | ||
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Matthew Garrett] LCA 2011 - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/133979.html | 20:02 |
| Laney | the PS3 ITV player is So Bad™ | 20:17 |
| duvelhedz | I am glad it was hacked to run Linux again though | 20:18 |
| domjohnson | duvelhedz - it was? | 20:51 |
| domjohnson | Thats cool :) | 20:51 |
| duvelhedz | Look up fail0verflow, geohot went and published the root key, cats out of the bag now for Sony. | 20:55 |
| duvelhedz | No firmware updates will fix it now | 20:55 |
| duvelhedz | Linux has been successfully run on a ps3 slim which never had the other OS to begin with | 20:56 |
| domjohnson | lol | 20:59 |
| domjohnson | Thats why Sony shouldn't p*ss off the Linux community :P | 21:00 |
| duvelhedz | I agree, I wonder would one of the old PPC builds of ubuntu run on it | 21:01 |
| duvelhedz | 7.04 was the last I think | 21:02 |
| brobostigon | iwould go with debian, its much newer and uptodate powerpc build, and more mature, | 21:02 |
| duvelhedz | It would be very powerful bit of hardware especially if graphics drivers can be written. | 21:08 |
| duvelhedz | Sony never officially allowed access to the GPU of the console | 21:09 |
| === monsterkiller is now known as MonsterKiller | ||
| TheOpenSourcerer | Update on my Chilli growing: https://twitter.com/#!/opensourcerer/statuses/35449670033620992 :-D | 21:27 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Time for a bit of TV and a G&T I think. | 21:28 |
| === Craig_Dem_ is now known as Craig_Dem | ||
| brobostigon | nos da, sleep well everyone, | 22:34 |
| andy-f | quit | 22:56 |
| * hamitron sighs | 23:22 | |
| dogmatic69 | anyone know where mysql stores the raw db files? | 23:25 |
| popey | /var/lib/mysql isnt it? | 23:26 |
| SuperMatt | why have I never seen this before? http://www.gotsars.com/view.php?id=5127 | 23:26 |
| dogmatic69 | yes | 23:26 |
| SuperMatt | sfw | 23:26 |
| dogmatic69 | thanks popey | 23:26 |
| popey | np | 23:27 |
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