[00:07] <itnet7> mhall119 I am kind of stuck at our home owners association meeting. I am not sure I will make it out of here in time to attend tonights meeting
[00:21] <itnet7> if we don't have one tonight, then I would like to get together with you to find the best way to handle mwetings with the LD integration
[00:21] <itnet7> ttyiab
[00:22] <mhall119> itnet7: I'll be happy to chair tonight's meeting
[00:23] <mhall119> though the only agenda item is about the new meeting feature
[00:23] <mhall119> doh, and I fail at UTC time
[00:24] <MichelleQ> I think everyone fails at UTC.
[00:24] <mhall119> yeah, we already have a bug report to do something about that
[00:32] <mhall119> if anyone has anything to dicuss in tonight's meeting, go ahead and add it to http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/1/detail/
[00:33] <mhall119> cjohnston crashsystems dantalizing himuraken jamalta jtatum mianosm1 munz rmcbride RoAkSoAx ShawnR statik zbrown zoopster 30 minutes until the team meeting
[00:58] <MichelleQ> what time is the meeting?  UTC requires I math.
[00:58] <mhall119> in about 5 minutes
[01:02] <mhall119> cjohnston crashsystems dantalizing himuraken jamalta jtatum mianosm1 munz rmcbride RoAkSoAx ShawnR statik zbrown zoopster Meeting time
[01:03] <mhall119> #startmeeting
[01:03] <mhall119> hey, where's mootbot?
[01:03] <zoopster> o/ from sunny california
[01:04] <mhall119> whatcha doing in cali?
[01:04] <zoopster> workin'
[01:04] <zoopster> meetings with Canonical partners
[01:04] <mhall119> ah, gotta make money for the man
[01:04] <zoopster> yea
[01:05] <mhall119> okay, well it seems we're going bot-less tonight
[01:05] <zoopster> can't get mootbot to join again?
[01:05] <mhall119> how do you get it to join?
[01:05] <akgraner> OMG you killed mootbot...
[01:05] <MichelleQ> mootbot's probably in cali with zoopster
[01:05] <mhall119> akgraner: it was an accident, i swear!
[01:06]  * akgraner apologizes for the random outburst there and slinks back to the NC channel :-)
[01:06] <mhall119> you know we're always happy to see you
[01:06] <mhall119> okay, meeting agenda is at http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/1/detail/
[01:07] <mhall119> unlike previous meetings, our agenda is no longer in the wiki, it's now on the LoCo Directory
[01:07] <mhall119> which brings us to our first topic
[01:07] <mhall119> [TOPIC] Discuss new LoCo Directory features
[01:08]  * mhall119 pretends mootbot is still here doing' it's job
[01:08] <zoopster> hopefully akgraner will help mootbot find it's way back
[01:08] <mhall119> so cjohnston and I, along with the other loco-directory developers, have added Meeting tracking to http://loco.ubuntu.com to go along with the Event tracking we've been using it for
[01:09] <mhall119> any team member can create/edit meetings for the team
[01:09] <mhall119> they can also add/edit agenda items for any of our team's meetings
[01:10] <zoopster> woop! great job! \o/
[01:10] <mhall119> from now on we should use this for planning our IRC meetings
[01:10] <rmcbride> indeed Great job!
[01:10] <mhall119> because it's much easier to extract useful data from LD than the wiki
[01:11] <mhall119> and eventually this will automatically feed our montly team reports
[01:11] <mhall119> so please use it, report any bugs you encounter of features you wish it had
[01:11] <mhall119> it's a new feature, and we're looking for ways to improve it
[01:12] <mhall119> our next meeting is already up there: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/14/detail/ so you can add agenda items to it at any time
[01:13] <mhall119> any questions about LD or the meeting feature before I move on?
[01:13] <cjohnston> o/
[01:13] <mhall119> you have a question?
[01:13] <mhall119> or just signaling that you're here?
[01:16] <mhall119> okay, moving along
[01:16] <mhall119> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Developer Week
[01:16] <cjohnston> saying hi
[01:16] <mhall119> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek
[01:16] <mhall119> Starting Feb. 28th is the next developer week
[01:17] <mhall119> for anybody who doesn't know what that is, it's a week long series of online (over IRC) classes about developing for and on Ubuntu
[01:18] <mhall119> on Mar. 2nd at 1700 UTC cjohnston and I will be teaching a class on how to get started hacking on the LoCo Directory
[01:19] <mhall119> if anybody is interested in getting involved in this project with us, that'll be a good way to get started
[01:20] <mhall119> any questions?
[01:21] <mhall119> okay, gonna be a short meeting
[01:21] <mhall119> last one
[01:21] <mhall119> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Global Jam
[01:21] <mhall119> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/567/detail/
[01:21] <mhall119> The next Global Jam is scheduled for April 1st (not my idea)
[01:22] <mhall119> for those who don't know what a Global Jam is, it's an excuses to get together with other people in the loco team or other groups and work on something Ubuntu related
[01:22] <mhall119> people hold bug jams where they triage and/or fix bugs
[01:22] <mhall119> documentation jams where they write/edit documentation
[01:23] <mhall119> packaing, translations, testing and all kinds of other jams
[01:23] <MichelleQ> I've failed to be paying attention.  Anything I need to be doing?
[01:23] <mhall119> all you need is a small space for people to gather and something you want to do
[01:24] <mhall119> if you want to hold a jam near you, just add it to the link above and let the rest of us know so we can attend if possible
[01:25] <mhall119> [TOPC] Open...
[01:25] <mhall119> anybody have anything else they want to talk about before we end the meeting?
[01:26] <MichelleQ> ... nope.  Nothing that I can think of
[01:26] <mhall119> akgraner: how was FUDcon?
[01:26] <akgraner> very interesting
[01:27]  * itnet7 is here, sorry I'm late
[01:27] <akgraner> I didn't realize how many people I knew there
[01:27] <akgraner> but it is very different from UDS 
[01:27] <mhall119> I think you know 50% of the FLOSS community by now
[01:27] <akgraner> nah - I wish I did
[01:28] <mhall119> oh, word on the street is that UDS is coming back to Orlando this fall!
[01:28] <rmcbride> It is
[01:28] <rmcbride> YAY
[01:28] <akgraner> sweet...
[01:29] <itnet7> That's going to rock!
[01:29] <rmcbride> I think it was pretty much a done deal before the last one was over. Everyone was very happy with the venue, from what I was told
[01:31] <mhall119> itnet7: did you have anything you wanted to talk about before I end the meeting?
[01:31] <itnet7> Not really, but thanks so much for holding it!
[01:31] <mhall119> no problem
[01:31] <mhall119> #endmeeting
[01:31]  * mhall119 continues to pretend Mootbot is here
[01:32] <itnet7> awsomeness
[01:32] <itnet7> akgraner: you seriouls made the plunge? Are you vegan? or just vegetarian
[01:33] <itnet7> s/seriouls/seriously/
[01:33] <akgraner> just vegetarian
[01:33] <akgraner> I know right...it's hard for me to believe
[01:33] <itnet7> That rocks, good for you!
[01:33] <mhall119> aw, I was going to make BBQ for the next UDS
[01:34] <itnet7> Well if you're doing it to help you feel better
[01:34] <itnet7> then kudos
[01:34] <itnet7> +1 mhall119 !
[01:34] <akgraner> itnet7, yeah needed to make some changes...
[01:35] <itnet7> I have been trying to get more exercise myself... need to work on the diet too, but not sure what will work for me
[01:35] <itnet7> I need some serious help :-P
[01:35] <mhall119> akgraner: I'll smoke some veggies for you then
[01:35] <akgraner> mhall119, awww thanks!
[01:36] <itnet7> Smoked veggies rock too!
[01:36] <mhall119> speaking of, has anyone heard from pak33m lately?
[01:37] <itnet7> I talked to him last week for a bit, he was doing well
[01:37] <mhall119> okay, good
[01:39] <itnet7> I was gonna try to see if everyone might want to meet up soon in either Orlando or Lakeland geocache
[01:39] <mhall119> oh, geocaching
[01:40] <itnet7> s/geocache/and geocache/ 
[01:40] <itnet7> Yeah, I thought we could do it as a family fun event
[01:40] <MichelleQ> sure
[01:41]  * MichelleQ resumes paying attention again.
[01:41] <itnet7> At some park, unless you guys feel like traveling and camping out at Jonathan Dickinson State Park
[01:41] <cjohnston> lets meet up next week in vegas
[01:41] <itnet7> cjohnston: bet!
[01:41] <itnet7> yeah right
[01:41] <cjohnston> I'll be there
[01:41] <mhall119> lol
[01:41] <mhall119> cjohnston: if you're paying, we'll be there
[01:41] <cjohnston> im not paying
[01:41] <itnet7> :-)
[01:41] <MichelleQ> sign me up
[01:41] <MichelleQ> oh dammit
[01:42] <cjohnston> leaving friday headed to NC, then end of next week is vegas
[01:42] <itnet7> Nice!
[01:42] <MichelleQ> itnet7: if you decide to geocache this direction, let us know.
[01:43] <MichelleQ> We'll fire up the smoker for dinner.
[01:43] <itnet7> :-)
[01:43] <itnet7> I will check and see how many caches are near you guys!
[01:43] <MichelleQ> sounds good
[01:43] <itnet7> I just finished a 5 stage cache that required close to 20 miles of hiking
[01:43] <MichelleQ> holy mackerel
[01:44] <itnet7> but that was a personal goal/challenge
[01:44] <MichelleQ> we'd have to do a kid-friendly one.
[01:44]  * itnet7 is trying to get back in shape
[01:44] <itnet7> Sure!
[01:44] <MichelleQ> a particular kid-with-muscle-fatigue-issues one.
[01:44] <itnet7> I will check online and see if any of the parks near you have any
[01:44] <itnet7> most of them are stroller accessible
[01:44] <MichelleQ> he's got a wheel chair, so distance isn't an issue, as long as it's accessible
[01:45] <itnet7> that will work
[01:46] <itnet7> are there any nature preserves or county parks near you that you guys really enjoy visiting?
[01:46] <itnet7> I will check there first
[01:46] <MichelleQ> hhm.  Lake Parker Park's really kid-friendly and accessible, but not big
[01:47] <MichelleQ> there's the Van Fleet trail - that might have something interesting. http://www.bikingflorida.com/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=21
[01:49] <itnet7> Wow, at Lake Parker Park there are 227 hidden caches within a 5 mile radius
[01:49] <mhall119> they have a nice playground too
[01:50] <MichelleQ> nice
[01:50] <MichelleQ> it's a really nice plave
[01:50] <MichelleQ> place,even
[01:51] <itnet7> :-)
[01:57] <MichelleQ> itnet7: signing up for geocaching.com - :-)
[01:59] <MichelleQ> We're TheSuperHalls
[02:01] <mhall119> lol
[02:01] <itnet7> MichelleQ: sweet!
[02:02] <itnet7> It's definitely fun, and good exercise
[02:02] <MichelleQ> Figured I'd remember that
[02:02] <itnet7> Nice!
[02:03] <itnet7> Just send you a friend request through there
[02:03] <MichelleQ> so, there are, supposedly, 25k caches within 10 miles of us.
[02:05] <itnet7> 25k??
[02:05] <itnet7> wow!
[02:05] <itnet7> 2500?
[02:05] <mhall119> yeah, but probably 10k of them are all one one guy's yard
[02:05] <itnet7> There is like 4000 in brevard
[02:05] <MichelleQ> no.  25k
[02:05] <itnet7> WOw!
[02:05] <MichelleQ> it returned 25543 results for a search for our zip within 10 miles
[02:06] <itnet7> Ah!
[02:06] <MichelleQ> I did a double take
[02:06] <itnet7> that includes all cache types though
[02:06] <MichelleQ> dunno - no clue
[02:06] <itnet7> Yeah, When I visit by then I'll learn to filter and will let you guys know what I learn
[02:07] <itnet7> You have an android phone right?
[02:07] <itnet7> you can install c:geo
[02:07] <itnet7> and add your geocaching.com account
[02:07] <MichelleQ> yeah, I've got an android
[02:07] <MichelleQ> ok, will do
[12:30] <mhall119> anyone got an interesting little FLOSS project they'd like to talk about during UDW? http://justanothertriager.wordpress.com/2011/02/09/have-an-interesting-project-you-want-to-talk-about/
[12:57] <mhall119> woohoo Mootbot-UK is back@
[12:57] <mhall119> !
[13:33] <amouge> hey just in case anyones interested, I have an entry level php position full time in tampa
[13:54] <amouge> hey tiemonster
[14:15] <akgraner> itnet7, mhall119 and zoopster - see mootbot-uk :-)  it's in your channel now..let me know if you need to know anything about this one there is really on one difference in the -uk and the old one
[14:28] <reya276> Morning Everyone
[14:57] <tiemonster> amouge: hi. sorry. I was at class.
[15:16] <itnet7> akgraner: ?
[15:16] <itnet7> Alan added some stuff?
[15:17] <akgraner> itnet7, yep I'll get you the how to I wrote for it
[15:17] <itnet7> Sweet thanks!
[15:21] <amouge> all good
[15:51] <mhall119> akgraner: I think we'd been using mootbot-uk
[15:51] <mhall119> it's just that something happened to it
[18:41] <reya276> does anyone know when we will get the flash update http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/flash-player-10-2-released-with-stage-video-hardware-acceleration/
[18:52] <DammitJim> is there a google chrome channel?
[18:52] <DammitJim> someone at work got his CR-48
[18:52] <DammitJim> I want mine, dammit!!!
[19:02] <reya276> yeah I too applied for one, but I have not gotten a response from google or the device either
[19:06] <dantalizing> morning
[19:10] <DammitJim> afternoon, dantalizing 
[19:10] <DammitJim> reya276, they don't tell you anything! they just show up!
[19:11] <DammitJim> I want one!!! someone here at work just bought an acer one for 199 with a free cover at target or something
[19:14] <reya276> hey Dan
[19:14] <reya276> DammitJim, oh that is cool
[19:14] <reya276> DammitJim, so for $200 bucks they got one at Target?
[19:16] <mhall119> not the CR-48
[19:16] <mhall119> you can probably get a $200 Atom CPU netbook for $200 at target
[19:16] <DammitJim> yeah, talking about the acerone
[19:17] <mhall119> ah, ok
[19:21] <crashsystems> The CR-48 is nice.
[19:25] <DammitJim> do you have one, crashsystems ?
[19:25] <crashsystems> no, but a few coworkers were hunting security vulns on one, and I got to hold it for a few minutes.
[19:26] <jck77> hello everyone
[19:26] <jck77> I heard that to that the CR-48 is a nice netbook
[19:27] <crashsystems> it is. ubuntu would be great on it
[19:28] <jck77> are they still sending it with the pilot program? I applied but never received a message back :(
[19:31] <DammitJim> crashsystems, ubuntu flies on it
[19:31] <DammitJim> jck77, I heard the 3rd batch is on its way
[19:31] <zillar> it's a beautiful notebook
[19:31] <DammitJim> a co-worker just got it 4 days ago
[19:32] <DammitJim> and I've seen some posts of people getting them today
[19:32] <jck77> DammitJim: great, but do they let you know before via email that you were selected?
[19:33] <DammitJim> nope, I heard that they are just showing up at doorsteps
[19:33] <jck77> ohh
[19:33] <jck77> great to know then
[19:34] <DammitJim> good luck to us all
[19:37] <zillar> oddly, that's contrary to the sign-up form
[19:37] <zillar> "We'll review the requests that come in and contact you if you've been selected. "
[19:38] <jck77> thats why I asked
[19:39] <jck77> we really need luck I guess there is a lot of people applying
[19:40] <jck77> what makes me mad is that there is people that received and they are selling it. so they dont care about improving neither giving feedback about the netbook
[19:41] <DammitJim> selling it?
[19:41] <jck77> yeap
[19:41] <jck77> look on ebay
[19:42] <jck77> google should track those mf and blacklist them from any google service
[19:44] <DammitJim> http://ocala.craigslist.org/sys/2198349263.html
[19:47] <jck77> thats what pissed me offff
[19:47] <dantalizing> same with google io ... people just wanting to sell free stuff from the goog
[19:52] <DammitJim> dammit...
[19:57] <mhall119> jim
[20:27] <MichelleQ> bob?
[20:53] <DammitJim> do you guys know of a fax machine that you can check remotely to see if it has received a fax?
[20:56] <dfused> make the secretary do it
[21:37] <reya276> so what is the deal on the USB hack
[21:42] <dantalizing> theres a usb hack?
[21:43] <maxolasersquad> dantalizing: Did you get a chance to look at the osmand code?
[21:43] <dantalizing> maxolasersquad: downloaded it and tried to build, but kept getting errors and didnt have time to dive too deep ... at a high level, the code looks fine
[21:44] <dantalizing> maxolasersquad: do you have logcat output?
[21:45] <maxolasersquad> I don't know.
[21:46] <maxolasersquad> Would that be on my phone, or in Eclipse?
[21:46] <dantalizing> hmm... i alway use the command line
[21:46] <dantalizing> start up the app in an emulator or phone ...
[21:46] <dantalizing> then "adb logcat"
[21:47] <dantalizing> you'll at least get the java exception
[21:47] <reya276> before I rudely got kickout the channel, check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovfYBa1EHm4
[21:47] <reya276> what is up with that, security risk on Linux
[21:48] <dantalizing> reya276: i need at least 51:07 to understand
[21:48] <reya276> huh?
[21:48] <dantalizing> well just opening the video doesnt really give anyone a chance to understand the issue
[21:48] <dantalizing> first i heard of it
[21:50] <dantalizing> reya276: is it really a usb exploit or just using autorun to exploit apps?
[21:51] <reya276> bah, nevermind this is all BS, the guy is talking about an Ubuntu OS that has not been patched and running without no security, he also does not show how you can compromise the system
[21:51] <reya276> so it seems like an FUD video
[21:52] <reya276> ok here is the writen version http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/09/linux_autorun_problems/
[21:52] <dantalizing> i would doubt that its total fud if he's standing up at shmoocon to demo it
[21:55] <dantalizing> so this is not a usb hack, this is configuration and app hacking
[21:56] <reya276> ok, great so this is legit which is exactly what I wanted to know
[21:56] <reya276> so this guy is actually talking about something that can be done
[21:56] <reya276> specially to Ubuntu system
[21:56] <reya276> I say not good
[21:57] <dantalizing> The demo relied on taking advantage of a flaw in GNOME Evince document viewer that was patched in January
[21:57] <dantalizing> even so, was kind of "weak" because it was shown on a machine with in-built exploit mitigation disabled, as Larimer himself clearly explains.
[21:57] <reya276> ah ok so this was patched
[21:58] <maxolasersquad> Last month I saw two different people complain about having their Linux box hijacked.  One guy took no security precautions because he just assumed he was invinsible running Linux.
[21:58] <reya276> ok so Linux/Ubuntu is still secure, so why bother even showing this
[21:58] <dantalizing> AppArmor  might be defeated
[21:58] <dantalizing> ubuntu uses apparmor
[21:59] <reya276> ok so then anyone can Hijack Ubuntu
[21:59] <reya276> sorry just trying to understand, as right now all of our servers are running Ubuntu
[21:59] <dantalizing> reya276: i dont think its an all or nothing game .. no OS is totally secure
[21:59] <mhall119> reya276: make sure you have all available updates
[22:00] <reya276> right I understand that, but I'm thinking is safer than Windows, which is the reason I moved away from it
[22:00] <dantalizing> i dont think that has changed in the past 10 yrs :)
[22:00] <reya276> ok all the servers are always updated
[22:01] <mhall119> then you have very little chance of problems
[22:01] <reya276> ok so I should not be too worried about this
[22:01] <dantalizing> restrict physical access to all servers
[22:01] <dantalizing> rule #1
[22:03] <mhall119> Disney is hiring Java devs, anyone want the info?
[22:13] <zillar> i would
[22:13] <zillar> i am interested*