andrew | http://downloadsquad.switched.com/2011/02/07/firefox-4-5-6-and-7-to-be-released-before-the-end-of-2011/ | 04:29 |
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PennBot | Title: Firefox 4, 5, 6 and 7 to be released before the end of 2011 (at downloadsquad.switched.com) | 04:29 |
andrew | so, it took over 6 years to go from 1.0 to 4.0 (which we aren't quite at yet), but the next 4 will be out this year? | 04:30 |
SamuraiAlba | Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Bacon R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn! IÄ! IÄ! Bacon Ftaghn! | 13:15 |
InHisName | good bacon to you too! SamuraiAlba | 13:29 |
SamuraiAlba | The one 160 is still viable and available :) | 13:32 |
SamuraiAlba | Sold the switch, finally | 13:33 |
SamuraiAlba | Guy then texted me since it wasnt giving him an IP from his comcast modem. | 13:33 |
SamuraiAlba | I explained he needed a ROUTER to do that. | 13:33 |
SamuraiAlba | He realized that and then forgot to plug the router in... | 13:33 |
* SamuraiAlba facepalms | 13:33 | |
SamuraiAlba | funny thing. He forgot to run a cable from the router, and to the switch... after plugging the router in | 13:34 |
InHisName | Ha ha | 13:36 |
InHisName | I am about to head out to class, but could pass by on to your place before I start, SamuraiAlba | 13:37 |
ChinnoDog | hi PhilliePhresh | 17:18 |
andrew | hrm, PhilliePhresh is from NJ | 17:18 |
PhilliePhresh | srry afk | 17:29 |
PhilliePhresh | yeah just over bridge | 17:30 |
PhilliePhresh | us-nj team is mostly north jersey | 17:30 |
andrew | true | 17:30 |
andrew | Anyways, we have a lot of cross river membership as it is | 17:30 |
PhilliePhresh | im looking for a Tutorial on how to set up a pure-ftpd server with a Postgresql backend for autentication. | 17:34 |
PhilliePhresh | i can only find ones for Mysql Backend though | 17:34 |
PhilliePhresh | any suggestions | 17:34 |
ChinnoDog | pure-ftpd... oh hey I am running that. I forgot! | 17:35 |
PhilliePhresh | i would go with a mysql backend but i heard its going to no longer be open-source soon | 17:37 |
PhilliePhresh | and since im just starting to learn php and sql anyway i thought i would start on postgres instead | 17:37 |
ChinnoDog | I'm using unix and PAM auth, not SQL. MySQL auth won't be open source? hrm | 17:38 |
PhilliePhresh | Thats what someone said the other day in the bookstore | 17:39 |
ChinnoDog | pure-ftp is BSD license without any proprietary components or support that I can see | 17:39 |
ChinnoDog | It seems highly unlikely that the mySQL auth would become proprietary, and even more so that the existing code would become unavailable | 17:40 |
PhilliePhresh | thats good to hear | 17:41 |
ChinnoDog | I've read lots of good things about Postgres but most open source apps are built against MySQL | 17:42 |
ChinnoDog | Postgres pops up in special use cases and custom apps where capacity and features are a must but I haven't found a good excuse to install it let alone an opportunity to take advantage of it. | 17:43 |
PhilliePhresh | so maybe it would be better to start on mysql anyway? | 17:43 |
ChinnoDog | If you are learning it for general usefulness, yes. The skills you learn will be transferrable. | 17:44 |
pleia2 | people are really paranoid about the future of mysql, but all the Oracle people I've spoken with claim they are still committed to keeping an open source license | 17:44 |
pleia2 | and even if they don't, a forked free version will always be available | 17:44 |
pleia2 | it's used it too many places by too many huge companies for it to fall out of open source land | 17:44 |
PhilliePhresh | like the "community-edition" | 17:44 |
ChinnoDog | A "community edition" is usually the open source version of a proprietary product, but you wouldn't see that unless Oracle closed parts of the source and continued to offer an open source version. | 17:45 |
ChinnoDog | If someone forks it then it becomes a new product. | 17:45 |
PhilliePhresh | o | 17:45 |
ChinnoDog | like LibreOffice | 17:45 |
pleia2 | if you're on ubuntu just "apt-get install mysql-server" | 17:46 |
pleia2 | ChinnoDog: the mysql that everyone uses (and ships with ubuntu) is the "community server" | 17:46 |
PhilliePhresh | oh ok | 17:46 |
PhilliePhresh | ty for clearing that up | 17:46 |
ChinnoDog | Oh. I see. I didn't realize ther was an Enterprise edition. (I just looked.) I thought their revenue came from support exclusively. | 17:47 |
PhilliePhresh | yeah its around $2k if im not mistaken | 17:48 |
ChinnoDog | Seems to me I would have to have a pretty good reason to go with an enterprise edition of MySQL. If I were starting a new project I'd rather start with Postgres if I needed the high end features. | 17:48 |
PhilliePhresh | http://www.mysql.com/products/ | 17:49 |
PennBot | Title: MySQL :: MySQL Editions (at www.mysql.com) | 17:49 |
PhilliePhresh | correction its $5k | 17:50 |
PhilliePhresh | a year | 17:50 |
PhilliePhresh | wow | 17:50 |
PhilliePhresh | Does anyone from us-pa team set up events near philly , actively | 17:52 |
PhilliePhresh | i would like to attend if so | 17:52 |
pleia2 | the last one was a geeknic in september up near king of prussia | 17:52 |
pleia2 | I think jedijf is looking into doing some ubuntu hours | 17:53 |
JonathanD | Hi. | 17:55 |
PhilliePhresh | hi | 17:56 |
ChinnoDog | Anyone here use CrashPlan? | 18:34 |
ChinnoDog | Unlimited backup for $4.17/mo for one PC and ~$10/mo for 2-10 pcs? | 18:36 |
ChinnoDog | with Linux support | 18:36 |
Traveler | Que Pasa ? | 18:37 |
ChinnoDog | And if your workstation goes boom they will optionally ship you a hard drive with your backup on it | 18:40 |
ChinnoDog | And if you have a massive amount of data to back up they can optionally ship you a hard disk to make your first backup set onto | 18:40 |
ChinnoDog | Unlimited backup plan for up to 10 PCs is only $6/mo if you pay for 4 years of service. | 18:41 |
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Dev_N00b | good bacon to all! | 18:49 |
Traveler | all quiet this evening | 23:31 |
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