[04:29] <andrew> http://downloadsquad.switched.com/2011/02/07/firefox-4-5-6-and-7-to-be-released-before-the-end-of-2011/
[04:29] <PennBot> Title: Firefox 4, 5, 6 and 7 to be released before the end of 2011 (at downloadsquad.switched.com)
[04:30] <andrew> so, it took over 6 years to go from 1.0 to 4.0 (which we aren't quite at yet), but the next 4 will be out this year?
[13:15] <SamuraiAlba> Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Bacon R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn! IÄ! IÄ! Bacon Ftaghn!
[13:29] <InHisName> good bacon to you too! SamuraiAlba
[13:32] <SamuraiAlba> The one 160 is still viable and available :)
[13:33] <SamuraiAlba> Sold the switch, finally
[13:33] <SamuraiAlba> Guy then texted me since it wasnt giving him an IP from his comcast modem.
[13:33] <SamuraiAlba> I explained he needed a ROUTER to do that.
[13:33] <SamuraiAlba> He realized that and then forgot to plug the router in...
[13:33]  * SamuraiAlba facepalms
[13:34] <SamuraiAlba> funny thing.  He forgot to run a cable from the router, and to the switch... after plugging the router in
[13:36] <InHisName> Ha ha
[13:37] <InHisName> I am about to head out to class, but could pass by on to your place before I start, SamuraiAlba
[17:18] <ChinnoDog> hi PhilliePhresh
[17:18] <andrew> hrm, PhilliePhresh is from NJ
[17:29] <PhilliePhresh> srry afk
[17:30] <PhilliePhresh> yeah just over bridge
[17:30] <PhilliePhresh> us-nj team is mostly north jersey
[17:30] <andrew> true
[17:30] <andrew> Anyways, we have a lot of cross river membership as it is
[17:34] <PhilliePhresh> im looking for a Tutorial on how to set up a pure-ftpd server with a Postgresql backend for autentication.
[17:34] <PhilliePhresh> i can only find ones for Mysql Backend though
[17:34] <PhilliePhresh> any suggestions
[17:35] <ChinnoDog> pure-ftpd... oh hey I am running that. I forgot!
[17:37] <PhilliePhresh> i would go with a mysql backend but i heard its going to no longer be open-source soon
[17:37] <PhilliePhresh> and since im just starting to learn php and sql anyway i thought i would start on postgres instead
[17:38] <ChinnoDog> I'm using unix and PAM auth, not SQL. MySQL auth won't be open source? hrm
[17:39] <PhilliePhresh> Thats what someone said the other day in the bookstore
[17:39] <ChinnoDog> pure-ftp is BSD license without any proprietary components or support that I can see
[17:40] <ChinnoDog> It seems highly unlikely that the mySQL auth would become proprietary, and even more so that the existing code would become unavailable
[17:41] <PhilliePhresh> thats good to hear
[17:42] <ChinnoDog> I've read lots of good things about Postgres but most open source apps are built against MySQL
[17:43] <ChinnoDog> Postgres pops up in special use cases and custom apps where capacity and features are a must but I haven't found a good excuse to install it let alone an opportunity to take advantage of it.
[17:43] <PhilliePhresh> so maybe it would be better to start on mysql anyway?
[17:44] <ChinnoDog> If you are learning it for general usefulness, yes. The skills you learn will be transferrable.
[17:44] <pleia2> people are really paranoid about the future of mysql, but all the Oracle people I've spoken with claim they are still committed to keeping an open source license
[17:44] <pleia2> and even if they don't, a forked free version will always be available
[17:44] <pleia2> it's used it too many places by too many huge companies for it to fall out of open source land
[17:44] <PhilliePhresh> like the "community-edition"
[17:45] <ChinnoDog> A "community edition" is usually the open source version of a proprietary product, but you wouldn't see that unless Oracle closed parts of the source and continued to offer an open source version.
[17:45] <ChinnoDog> If someone forks it then it becomes a new product.
[17:45] <PhilliePhresh> o
[17:45] <ChinnoDog> like LibreOffice
[17:46] <pleia2> if you're on ubuntu just "apt-get install mysql-server"
[17:46] <pleia2> ChinnoDog: the mysql that everyone uses (and ships with ubuntu) is the "community server"
[17:46] <PhilliePhresh> oh ok
[17:46] <PhilliePhresh> ty for clearing that up
[17:47] <ChinnoDog> Oh. I see. I didn't realize ther was an Enterprise edition. (I just looked.) I thought their revenue came from support exclusively.
[17:48] <PhilliePhresh> yeah its around $2k if im not mistaken
[17:48] <ChinnoDog> Seems to me I would have to have a pretty good reason to go with an enterprise edition of MySQL. If I were starting a new project I'd rather start with Postgres if I needed the high end features.
[17:49] <PhilliePhresh> http://www.mysql.com/products/
[17:49] <PennBot> Title: MySQL :: MySQL Editions (at www.mysql.com)
[17:50] <PhilliePhresh> correction its $5k
[17:50] <PhilliePhresh> a year
[17:50] <PhilliePhresh> wow
[17:52] <PhilliePhresh> Does anyone from us-pa team set up events near philly , actively
[17:52] <PhilliePhresh> i would like to attend if so
[17:52] <pleia2> the last one was a geeknic in september up near king of prussia
[17:53] <pleia2> I think jedijf is looking into doing some ubuntu hours
[17:55] <JonathanD> Hi.
[17:56] <PhilliePhresh> hi
[18:34] <ChinnoDog> Anyone here use CrashPlan?
[18:36] <ChinnoDog> Unlimited backup for $4.17/mo for one PC and ~$10/mo for 2-10 pcs?
[18:36] <ChinnoDog> with Linux support
[18:37] <Traveler> Que Pasa ?
[18:40] <ChinnoDog> And if your workstation goes boom they will optionally ship you a hard drive with your backup on it
[18:40] <ChinnoDog> And if you have a massive amount of data to back up they can optionally ship you a hard disk to make your first backup set onto
[18:41] <ChinnoDog> Unlimited backup plan for up to 10 PCs is only $6/mo if you pay for 4 years of service.
=== lynx_ is now known as PhilliePhresh
[18:49] <Dev_N00b> good bacon to all!
[23:31] <Traveler> all quiet this evening