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DBORAOF, nah compiz already informs you of this shit00:07
DBOyou just need to relayout this stuff00:07
DBOno X required00:07
RAOFOh, that's less insane.00:07
OmegaUnder which package should I file a bug from the indicator panel?00:50
jonoOmega, which panel?00:51
Omegajono: Top right, all my indicators are frozen00:57
Omega(time, everything)00:58
jonoOmega, natty?00:58
OmegaMhm00:58
jonoOmega, can you right click the desktop and then does it work?01:08
Omegajono: I can rightclieck the desktop but it does not fix it01:12
OmegaAlso, there's a desktop icon that keeps flashing on my desktop01:12
rbnswartzI'm having a problem grabbing the unity and nux code from launchpad. Any help?01:13
jonoOmega, strange - it sounds like the focus bug01:19
jonoOmega, I think a fix might be ready for it01:19
OmegaHmm01:19
OmegaMy time still says 7:11, it's 9:2001:20
jonoOmega, ahhh it is definitely that bug01:21
jonobecause it crashes the date/time indicator01:21
jonodid you upgrade today Omega?01:21
OmegaI did01:21
jonostrange01:21
OmegaDidn't reboot yet though01:21
jonoahhhh reboot01:21
jonoI didnt notice it today01:21
jonoso it might be fixed01:21
Omega(All my indicators are frozen)01:22
OmegaAnd I can't launch apps with unity launcher01:22
jonoOmega, yeah, reboot01:23
jonoI think you will be good01:23
jonoCtrl-Alt-F2 and run 'sudo reboot now' in a terminal01:23
OmegaOr I can ctrl-alt-del01:24
OmegaBut I'm working on something01:24
OmegaI'll do that when I'm finished01:24
jonocool01:25
rbnswartzI can't use bzr to download the unity or nux source does anyone know of another way to get it?01:33
rbnswartzI get an error about Permission denied (publickey)01:34
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kenvandineDBO, ping04:05
DBOpong04:05
DBOwhats up04:05
kenvandinehey dude04:06
kenvandineunity.h doesn't have unity_launcher_entry_new04:06
kenvandinecan i just use unity_launcher_entry_get_for_desktop_id04:06
kenvandineunity_launcher_entry_get_for_desktop_id ("xchat-gnome.desktop")04:07
kenvandine?04:07
DBOyes04:07
DBOsorry I suppose the wiki is wrong...04:07
kenvandinethought so.. not working those :)04:07
DBOi dont know what I was thinking04:08
DBOcan you update the wiki too04:08
kenvandinei will04:08
DBOim really sorry04:08
kenvandinenot working, not sure why04:08
DBOwhats not?04:08
kenvandineno errors... and no count displayed04:08
DBOdid you run a main loop?04:08
kenvandinehumm... not myself04:08
kenvandineit is a plugin for xchat-gnome04:09
DBOcan I see the code you made?04:09
kenvandinesure04:09
kenvandinehttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/565242/04:10
kenvandineand launcher is created with04:10
kenvandinelauncher = unity_launcher_entry_get_for_desktop_id ("xchat-indicator.desktop");04:10
* kenvandine just pushes the code04:11
DBOxchat-gnome.desktop04:11
DBOnot xchat-indicator.desktop04:11
kenvandineoh!04:12
kenvandinedamn :)04:12
kenvandinesilly me04:12
DBOits okay04:13
DBOI understand :)04:13
* kenvandine tests04:14
kenvandineshit... still no luck04:16
kenvandineDBO, could these critical's be a sign of a problem?04:18
kenvandine(xchat-gnome:22105): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_dbus_method_invocation_return_dbus_error: assertion `error_name != NULL && g_dbus_is_name (error_name)' failed04:18
kenvandinei get 3 of those right after it sets the count04:18
kenvandinebut i am not sure it is from the call to set the count or something else in xchat-gnome04:19
DBOno idea04:19
DBO sounds like it04:19
* kenvandine tests without the launcher04:19
DBOkenvandine, are you running unity trunk?04:19
kenvandineyes04:19
DBOdoes the test app work?04:20
kenvandinei didn't try04:20
kenvandinelet me do that04:20
kenvandinewhere is the test app?04:21
DBOwiki page04:22
kenvandineoh04:22
kenvandinethe vala sample code :)04:22
kenvandinei was thinking there was something in the unity tree :)04:22
DBOOH YEAH, MY CRACK IS SO GOOD04:23
* DBO dances04:23
DBOI just got the drag behavior working for dropping below the launcher04:25
kenvandinewoot04:25
DBOwhich is kind of odd because I dont yet have the launcher popping up on random drags04:25
DBObut wtf04:25
DBOits good shit04:25
kenvandinesomething's not right here, the sample isn't even building04:25
DBOokay04:25
kenvandinemust be pkgconfig nonsense04:26
DBOyeah I blame you04:26
kenvandine:)04:26
kenvandinei have it all installed in /opt/unity04:26
* kenvandine fiddles shit04:26
kenvandineok, i blame DBO for this failure04:27
kenvandinelauncherexample.vala:7.13-7.57: error: `Unity.LauncherEntry' does not have a default constructor04:27
kenvandine:-D04:27
DBOshut your pie hole04:28
DBOthat example code is from kamstrup04:28
kenvandinehaha04:28
* kenvandine looks at the vapi04:28
DBOfurther, kamstrup doesn't have bugs04:28
kenvandineso i hear04:28
kenvandinemust be nice04:28
DBOits true04:28
DBOokay, any theories on how to get xwininfo of the xdnd window?04:29
* spikeb has his netbook running natty. unity works far better than it sounds like it should from here04:29
DBOspikeb, if you are referencing the crap coming out of my mouth04:30
DBOyou sir know nothing of my work04:30
kenvandineDBO, ok, so with this example, i should see the count on the evo launcher right?04:31
spikebheh04:31
DBOkenvandine, indeed04:31
kenvandineok... not working :/04:31
DBOI swear to god some day I will reach that balmer peak04:31
DBOkenvandine, errors?04:31
kenvandinenope04:31
kenvandinenone04:31
DBOhave you tried blaming someone else?04:32
DBOyou starting it after unity was running right?04:32
kenvandinehow can i confirm i am running the right version the launcher?04:32
kenvandineyes04:32
kenvandine opt/unity/bin/unity --replace04:32
kenvandine /opt/unity/bin/unity --replace04:32
DBOkenvandine, open ccsm04:33
kenvandinedone04:33
DBOkenvandine, if you go into the experimental tab and you see 3 drop downs04:33
DBOyou are good to go04:33
kenvandineok, i don't04:33
DBOwhat do you see04:33
kenvandinethat explains stuff04:33
DBO2 drop downs and a checkbox?04:33
kenvandineyes04:33
DBOyeah get a better unity04:33
DBOskank04:33
kenvandineso how do i do that?04:34
DBOi could not tell you04:34
kenvandine/opt/unity/bin/unity --replace04:34
kenvandinei would think that should run the version in /opt!04:34
DBOI dont do it that way when developing04:34
DBOwell dont look at me!04:34
DBOI just code!04:34
kenvandinehehe04:34
DBOI dont understand packaging04:34
DBOits a dark voodoo art04:34
kenvandinethis isn't packaing04:34
kenvandinei did a make install :)04:34
kenvandineso it looks like compiz is loading the wrong plugin04:34
DBOyeah but you didn't install it how *I* install it04:35
kenvandinewhich i know squat about how it finds the plugins04:35
kenvandinei just followed the directions on the wiki, so i blame jcastro04:35
DBOactually I wrote those instructions04:35
DBOso04:35
kenvandinehaha04:35
kenvandine:)04:35
DBOyou can blame me04:35
DBObut when you figure it out04:35
kenvandineawesome04:35
DBOfix that wiki page too04:35
kenvandinehehe04:35
kenvandineknew that was coming04:35
DBOwell look04:36
DBOI clearly have shown to be greatly incompetent on wiki pages04:36
DBOso you cant ask me to do it04:36
kenvandinenice excuse04:36
kenvandine:)04:36
DBOthanks04:36
* kenvandine tries to figure out why compiz doesn't like this 04:36
DBOI have no idea what unity is04:38
DBOas a binary04:38
DBOthat is04:38
DBOis it a shell script?04:38
kenvandinepython04:43
kenvandinedamn this is crazy... 10m to add launcher support to xchat-indicator, an hour to figure out how to make compiz load the right plugin04:46
DBOkenvandine, its called "becoming compiz's bitch"04:47
DBOit does it to us all sooner or later04:47
DBOeventually you'll start to like it04:47
kenvandineyay05:00
kenvandinei didn't really figure it out, but i copied files around and now can see my count :)05:00
DBOkenvandine, happy for you buddy05:09
DBOhave a cookie05:09
DBOkenvandine, you know what I just made work?05:09
DBOalways unhide when dnd is active05:09
DBOthats right biotch05:09
kenvandineDBO, http://ubuntuone.com/p/cVu/05:10
kenvandineDBO, nice :)05:11
DBOkenvandine, you are a gentleman and a scholar05:15
DBOyour xchat has 1 thing to tell you05:15
DBOkenvandine, wanna be my guinea pig?05:17
kenvandinesure05:17
DBOkenvandine, well no, lets be more clear. want to be my *direct* guinea pig (you are already my guinea pig after all)05:18
kenvandinejust call me your biotch!05:18
kenvandineunity_launcher_entry_set_count_visible (launcher, FALSE);05:18
kenvandinedoesn't hide my count05:18
DBOkenvandine, lp:~unity-team/unity/unity.dnd-elsewhere05:20
DBOtry that branch out for me05:20
DBOkenvandine, really?05:20
DBOokay I will look into it05:20
DBOplease try my branch05:20
kenvandineworks in the vala example05:21
kenvandineand i confirmed my code is getting called05:21
kenvandinejust not hiding05:21
kenvandineanyway05:21
* kenvandine grabs05:21
DBOwell then I blame you!05:21
kenvandineDBO, unity_launcher_entry_get_count_visible is returning FALSE, but it is still displayed05:25
kenvandinebuilding your branch now05:26
kenvandineDBO, must be some rendering issue of some sort, changing the count doesn't change it either05:26
kenvandinebut get_count returns the count i am setting05:26
DBOkenvandine, its lost its reference on the launcher side05:27
DBOkenvandine, we'll have to blame kamstrup05:29
kenvandineok, running your branch05:32
kenvandinewhat do you want me to do?05:32
DBOkenvandine, position a window so the launcher hides05:33
DBOthen start a drag from nautilus05:33
DBOthat launcher should unhide05:33
kenvandinenice!05:34
kenvandineworks05:34
DBOkenvandine, okay now the next one is more shakey05:34
DBOfirst click on a menu at the top (this is a priming action)05:34
DBOjust open a menu05:34
DBOthen close05:34
DBOthen start a drag05:34
DBOand press your mouse against the far left of the launcher05:34
DBOit should eventually hide itself05:35
DBOso you can access whats below it05:35
kenvandinei don't understand05:36
DBOif you take a drag05:36
DBOand push against the left side of the screen05:36
DBOso your cusor is at (0, y)05:36
kenvandinei see05:36
DBOassuming compiz didn't steal the drag from you05:36
DBOthe launcher will hdie itself05:36
kenvandineit did05:37
DBOsweet05:37
kenvandinebut was a little chunky feeling05:37
kenvandinebut worked :)05:37
kenvandinenice!05:37
DBOyeah its got a "drag" to it05:37
DBObasically you get 500ms to go "oops I dont want it to go away"05:37
DBOand pull away for (0, y)05:37
DBOis that what you were seeing?05:38
DBOkenvandine?05:39
kenvandinei think so05:39
kenvandineit dims first05:39
kenvandinethen it hides05:40
DBOthe dimming is actually it hinting where you can drop05:41
DBOso like if you drag a text file over it05:41
DBOeverything but gedit should dim05:41
DBOit does a mime check05:41
kenvandineright05:42
DBOkenvandine, its my bed time :)05:42
DBOgoodnight :)05:42
kenvandinegood night!05:42
kenvandinethx dude05:43
DBOthank you for testing05:43
kenvandineanytime05:43
DBOI'll hold you to that05:45
kvalomorning06:48
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didrocksgood morning07:38
RAOFIt is to the credit of compiz that it's still nice and responsive as my machine slowly dies under the 2GiB of swap usage...07:56
didrockshehe :)07:56
didrockshey RAOF!07:56
didrocksRAOF: do you think that the nvidia driver will come soon?07:56
RAOFHey didrocks!07:56
RAOFProbably.07:57
RAOFI suspect they'll wait for 1.10 RC2 to be released, as that will (should!) have the final ABI.07:57
RAOFThe beta driver they have available for 1.10 is built against RC1, and that has a different ABI to us.  Joy!07:57
RAOF(Just in case you were thinking of installing the beta driver behind dpkg's back!)07:58
didrocksRAOF: urgh, ok ;)07:59
didrocksRAOF: still on the old Xorg then :)07:59
RAOFYup.  *I'd* like 1.10RC2 to be released, too, so we have a nice milestone for incorporating the Xi2 multitouch work and some Debian packaging changes.08:00
oSoMoNgood morning08:01
RAOFAlso, I'd like a pony and an awesome 13" tablet laptop with 1080p display and multitouch screen.08:01
MacSlowgreetings08:09
RAOFMorning MacSlow08:10
MacSlowhey RAOF08:10
DJKorbitgood morning10:03
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didrockskamstrup: libunity is still Monday's tarball, nothing new, right?12:37
smspillazRAOF: I also want what you want12:52
smspillaz(the pony that is, screw the laptop)12:53
kamstrupdidrocks: right12:55
didrockskamstrup: excellent, just to sum up, places aren't using libunity, isn't it? directly dee? (not sure with the refactoring)12:56
KaleoI have the alpha 2 version of Unity and it's working great12:59
Kaleois it more or less safe to use the Unity daily ppa?13:00
didrocksKaleo: not right now ;)13:37
Kaleodidrocks: ok :)13:40
didrockskamstrup: ^^ (in case you didn't see my question :))13:47
ronockenvandine,13:56
ronocshould I roll a tarball ?13:56
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kenvandineronoc, yes please14:37
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didrockshum, no kamstrup :/15:33
kenvandinedidrocks, i've been waiting for him too :)15:40
didrockskenvandine: well, I asked some question for libunity when he was still there :/15:40
kenvandineah... ignored, that is worse :)15:40
didrockskenvandine: let's say the hackfest side-tracked him15:41
kenvandine:)15:41
bcurtiswxkenvandine, http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2011/02/10/live-blog-running-pc-pro-on-ubuntu/ 3:35PM is their "rant" on gwibber.  figured you may be interested in reading15:53
kenvandinebcurtiswx, definately, thx15:53
bcurtiswx3:25PM15:53
bcurtiswxi meant15:53
kenvandinebcurtiswx, i guess it isn't obvious that it shortens urls automatically :)15:55
kenvandinewe do need the twitter realtime stuff though15:55
bcurtiswxkenvandine, that would be nice, since they don't have any issues like facebook :-X15:56
nmarqueshello16:07
ronockenvandine, any luck with that release16:47
kenvandineronoc, oh... i must have missed that you had created one16:48
kenvandineronoc, sorry16:48
ronockenvandine, https://launchpad.net/indicator-sound/third/0.5.916:48
ronockenvandine, no worries16:48
kenvandinecool, i'll grab it16:48
ronocsound16:48
DBOdidrocks, if you want to claim this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/70614616:51
DBOjust a suggestion :P16:52
didrocksDBO: yeah, claiming ;)16:53
ronockenvandine, distcheck should be fine :)17:19
kenvandineronoc, cool :)17:22
ronocmade sure to check17:22
bcurtiswxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/565470/ building libunity failed.. i have installed the girepository1.0-dev17:27
didrocksbcurtiswx: wait for my package to be published :)17:33
bcurtiswxdidrocks, rgr that17:33
* bcurtiswx waits17:33
achianghello, how does indicator-me's package get created? indicator-datetime has a packaging recipe, but i don't see one for indicator-me17:35
ronocbcurtiswx, have you installed gobject-introspection  from apt17:37
bcurtiswxronoc, nope , thx.. lol17:38
ronocbcurtiswx, :)17:38
ronockenvandine, I need to finish on time today, release any good ?17:45
kenvandinei think it is good17:45
kenvandinecan't logout and back in to test yet though17:45
kenvandinebut i restarted the service and it seems good17:45
kenvandineshould get it uploaded as soon as something else finishes building17:46
ronockenvandine, oh cool, I'll keep an eye out. thx17:50
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nmarqueskenvandine, gj on indicator date-time and indicator-sound ;)17:55
bcurtiswxkenvandine, functions in empathy-indicator-manager with _cb .. cb = callback?18:04
kenvandineyup18:04
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bcurtiswxkenvandine, what exactly does a callback do?18:04
kenvandinebcurtiswx, a function called when a signal is received18:08
bcurtiswxkenvandine, OK thx18:08
* bcurtiswx is trying to add the new unity stuff to empathy18:08
bcurtiswxim going based partly on your branch for xchat18:09
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DJKorbithi18:14
DJKorbiti think i've found a solution to bug 71080918:14
ubot5Launchpad bug 710809 in Unity "not mounted partitions appear with questionmark icon" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71080918:15
DJKorbiti'm compiling my code now18:15
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bcurtiswxunity just went kaploooey on me :(18:17
DJKorbitunity is using icons of which dimensions?18:23
bcurtiswxkenvandine, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/xchat-indicator/add_unity_launcher_support/revision/25  can I basically copy that into empathy as is?18:28
kenvandinebcurtiswx, somewhat18:29
kenvandineplaces where the indicator gets added and removed18:29
kenvandineto manage the count18:29
kenvandineempathy will be a bit more complez18:29
bcurtiswxkenvandine, sorry i wasn't specific enough.. the configure.ac part18:29
kenvandinecomplex even18:29
kenvandinesure18:29
kenvandineyeah18:29
bcurtiswxi'm going to play around with the emapthy-indicator-manager.c and empathy-indicator.c part to find those areas where counts are manipulated18:30
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lamalexhey DBO what's the word on this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/71620418:51
DBOlamalex, nothing yet18:53
lamalex:\ ugh ok18:54
nmarquesanyone knows where to grab the changelog of the latest nux and unity ?18:55
DJKorbitDBO, i can't seem to fix the question mark icon bug :(18:55
DBOwhat bug?18:55
DJKorbitbug 71080918:55
ubot5Launchpad bug 710809 in Unity "not mounted partitions appear with questionmark icon" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71080918:55
lamalexwe're not supposed to show them anyway18:56
lamalexso I wouldn't spend too much time on it :P18:56
DJKorbitlamalex, i'm spending time on it because, when they do show up (after being mounted) it also shows up with a question mark18:56
DBODJKorbit, i'll look at it in a bit18:56
DJKorbiti'm working on DeviceLauncherSection.cpp18:57
lamalexDJKorbit, but time should be spent making it now show icons for unmounted drives- as I understand it, it's only supposed to show mounted18:57
lamalexDBO, is there a spec from design on that?18:57
lamalexI thought I asked njpatel that question earlier today18:57
DBOnot really18:57
DJKorbitthe problem is that SetIconName method is trying to set the first name returned by g_themed_icon_get_names ()18:58
DJKorbitwhich returns "drive-harddisk-ata"18:58
DJKorbitwhich is an icon that is not present18:59
DJKorbiti tried hard-coding SetIconName to DEFAULT_ICON, which is an icon of a usb pen drive but it continues to show the question mark18:59
DJKorbiti also tried doing some printf's in the code but i don't get any output19:01
DJKorbiti guess this is not a trivial bug to fix after all :(19:03
DJKorbitDBO, any ideas?19:04
DBOhmmm19:05
DBOnot right now19:05
DBOI will have to have a chance to sit down adn look at that code19:05
DJKorbitok19:05
DJKorbiti'm just doing make, sudo make install and running unity again19:05
DJKorbiti'm doing it as i should right?19:06
bcurtiswxkenvandine, you said you were having problems with the indicator not updating properly with your xchat unity changes ?19:06
kenvandineyeah19:06
kenvandinewell, not the indicator19:06
kenvandinethe launcher19:07
bcurtiswxthe launcher doesn't change the number once you click the icon ?19:07
kenvandineit doesn't change it even if it needs to increment19:07
kenvandineand it doesn't hide when i hide it19:07
kenvandineseems like something is broken on the launcher side19:08
bcurtiswxwell anyways could it be that you need code in the update_indicator section of indicator.c19:08
kenvandinenah19:08
kenvandinethat only updates the timestamp on an existing one19:08
kenvandinein this case i only care about the number changing19:08
DJKorbiti'm going now19:09
DJKorbitbye19:09
bcurtiswxkenvandine, your addition to the xchat_plugin_init.. what would be the equivalent in empathy do you think?19:14
kenvandinebcurtiswx, not sure, i would need to look at the code19:24
bcurtiswxkenvandine, ok i'll look at the code.  to test it out do I need to reset unity at all after i make changes to the empathy code?19:25
kenvandinenope19:26
bcurtiswxcool, now all i need is for the new libunity to get published19:26
kenvandineand new unity so you can actually see it19:26
bcurtiswxcorrect19:26
bcurtiswxkenvandine, sorry to bother you again.. the indicator_manager_event_[added|removed|updated]_cb i believe I should be focused on.. does that seem right to you.19:36
bcurtiswxi guess this is the "fun" of playing around with the code19:37
bcurtiswxhehe19:37
nhainesDoes anyone here work with the Ubuntu Font Family project or do they hide somewhere else?  :)19:38
bcurtiswxdidrocks, is unity 3.4.2 going to make it today with libunity that's already here?19:43
didrocksbcurtiswx: yeah, I'm just pushing it19:44
bcurtiswxdidrocks, ah great. :)19:44
didrocksbcurtiswx: will take one hour as nux should be published first19:45
bcurtiswxdidrocks, nbd.  I am getting empathy ready for the new libunity  :)19:45
didrockshehe, nice!19:46
didrocksnux and unity uploaded19:46
DBOdidrocks, does unity proper depend on it?19:46
didrocksDBO: of course :)19:47
DBOlibunity that is19:47
didrocksoh no19:47
DBOi have no idea19:47
didrocksI checked19:47
didrocksso libunity doesn't depend on it19:47
didrocksDBO: but the first application which will be linked with libunity will bring it19:47
DBOI cant seem to code right now19:47
DBOits not coming19:47
DBOI dont know why19:47
didrocksso ideally, libunity should recommend unity :)19:47
didrocksDBO: well, you worked a lot yesterday19:48
DBOand the day before19:48
DBOlanded two major branches in two days19:48
bcurtiswxdidrocks, \o/19:48
DBOim trying to land the rest of the DND features for the launcher19:48
didrocksDBO: excellent :)19:48
didrockswaow, it seems weird now that there is not the "Open New window"19:49
didrocksthe quicklist seems so small :)19:49
DBOyeah dont we have support for that in .desktop files?19:49
bcurtiswxooh, what happened to that?19:49
didrocksDBO: we will have to patch the entire weird19:49
bcurtiswxi use it alot for terminal19:49
didrocksworld!19:49
didrocksbcurtiswx: middle click19:49
DBOdidrocks, i know19:49
DBObut that shit happens19:49
bcurtiswxshweeet!19:49
didrocksDBO: maximize is taking 4 seconds here19:50
didrocksI think that my system is that slow…19:50
didrocks(just a terminator window with nothing in it…)19:50
bcurtiswxkenvandine, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/xchat-indicator/add_unity_launcher_support/revision/25#configure.ac line 302 and 303.. seems to be an extra NULL in there19:52
didrockskenvandine: you are dropping the indicator support and replace by a quicklist?19:53
kenvandinedidrocks, no... adding a count for unseen messages19:53
kenvandinein addition to the indicator :)19:54
* spikeb sighs19:54
spikebi knew this would happen.19:54
didrockskenvandine: oh ok :)19:54
kenvandinebcurtiswx, i forget what the 3rd arg is for  g_strconcat, but NULL is fine :)19:54
* kenvandine goes to get some food, bbiab19:54
didrocksDBO: I think that the launcher shouldn't reveil though when we have new count19:54
bcurtiswxkenvandine, OK thx :)19:54
DBOdidrocks, what?19:54
didrocksDBO: otherwise, the launchers item will keep coming in hidden mode19:54
didrocksDBO: like, if you have another "message" in evolution or in xchat, don't show the launcher item as in the urgent mode19:55
didrocksDBO: otherwise with all the app that would be opened, I'm afraid to see launcher items keeps coming and hiding19:56
DBOdidrocks, i dont set the urgent mode19:57
DBOthe application does19:57
didrocksDBO: ok, I was wondering if you had a plan to "show" when a count change or whatever… that would have been a bad idea IMHO :)19:59
DBOno19:59
DBObut since applications often set urgent on times when they would update their count19:59
DBOI think that the emblems should be on the right19:59
didrocksyeah :/19:59
DBOnot th eleft19:59
DBOwell keep in mind you can only set urgent once19:59
DBOso if you switch away from irc20:00
DBOthe client can pop out at you once20:00
didrocksDBO: right, so should be manageable20:06
didrocksin any case, it's the application side which set it20:06
didrocksso… not the launcher issue20:06
* achiang is trying to find the packaging branch for indicator-sound, but in vain. anyone have any hints?20:21
achiangah, found it under ~ubuntu-desktop20:28
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bcurtiswxalrightie, empathy done, just need to test20:29
jcastrocando_: around?20:57
cando_sure20:57
cando_:)20:57
cando_jcastro, shoot20:57
jcastrodo you know the latest on support for the messaging menu in emesene?20:57
cando_emesene 1 or emesene 2?20:58
cando_i personally worked on the emesene2's version20:58
jcastrooh, is 1 still around?20:58
cando_and it worked..some month ago..20:59
cando_jcastro, emesene 2 is still alpha alpha20:59
cando_:)20:59
cando_and it's not really usable20:59
cando_you're using it?20:59
jcastrono I was just wondering20:59
jcastrotedg: is there an API for apps to use the me menu21:02
jcastroso like say, an IM client can toggle the status bubble thing in the me menu21:02
jcastrokenvandine: you might know too ^21:02
tedgjcastro, not really, but they can just use telepathy.21:03
tedgjcastro, it should really be the hub for that stuff.21:03
cando_tedg, so there is no project for "adding" an API to the MeMenu???21:04
tedgcando_, Well, not really.  It has a plugin architecture, but it's built into the code.  It seems that telepathy is basically that plugin, no?21:06
jcastroemesene doesn't use telepathy afaik21:06
cando_tedg, yeah..:)21:06
cando_jcastro, emesene use python-papyon...21:06
jcastrooh really?21:06
jcastroO_O that's awesome21:07
cando_yeah21:07
cando_tedg, thanks anyway21:07
tedgThe emesene guys should totally fix that :)21:07
jcastrowell, he's an emesene guy21:07
tedgcando_, I'd be happy to accept a patch for emesene -- it's just an object to implement.  But it'd have to be compiled in.21:07
cando_jcastro, well...i were...:):)21:07
cando_c10ud, ^^21:07
tedgWell, not me.  I'll speak for kenvandine as he's the maintainer :)21:07
cando_tedg, cool...thanks!21:08
* kenvandine sponsors tedg's packages instead of listening to him21:08
jcastroa wise plan21:08
cando_actually c10ud is the emesene's man..21:08
c10udlol crazy emesene users?21:09
tedgUhg, brown paper bagged libappindicator :(21:09
* c10ud reading backlog21:09
kenvandineDBO, i am going to consider you  kamstrup for now, since he isn't here atm :)21:09
DBOokay, how can I help you, please phrase all questions in one word or less :)21:10
kenvandineDBO, why would the launcher refuse to display a count on the xchat-gnome launcher but it would on any other?21:10
kenvandineha!21:10
kenvandineDBO, even the vala example won't display a count on that one21:10
kenvandinei printed out app_uri and it was right21:10
DBOkenvandine, are you sure the desktop file name is correct21:11
kenvandineaccording to gsettings21:11
kenvandineand it worked last night!21:11
kenvandinebriefly :)21:11
DBOkenvandine, thats what she said21:11
kenvandinei couldn't change the count21:11
kenvandinehehe21:11
kenvandineyes21:11
kenvandinei am sure21:11
DBOlets look at this together21:12
DBOcan I have your code21:12
kenvandinesure21:12
DJKorbithi again21:12
DJKorbiti'm working on bug 715711 now21:12
ubot5Launchpad bug 715711 in Unity "Unity shows unmounted volumes in the dock." [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71571121:12
DBODJKorbit, awesome21:12
kenvandineDBO, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/565559/21:13
DJKorbitDBO, lets see if i can get this fixed21:13
bcurtiswxDJKorbit, if it isn't noted or known, upon a unity --reset the unmounted volumes do not show21:13
c10ud[21:57] <jcastro> do you know the latest on support for the messaging menu in emesene? >>> emesene1 nope, emesene2 has it but random segfaults made me disable the code by default21:14
bcurtiswxkenvandine, let me know of your fixes so i can implement them into my changes for empathy21:14
DBOkenvandine, that doesn't work at all for you?21:14
kenvandineno21:14
DBOkenvandine, i call shinanigans21:14
kenvandineif i change the desktop_id to gedit.desktop it works21:14
kenvandinebut not for xchat-gnome.desktop21:14
c10udlastly.. MeMenu: unknown21:14
DBODJKorbit, I thought about how to implement your pinning thing too21:14
* bcurtiswx wonders why shinanigans never answers their phone :-\21:14
kenvandineDBO, it is bazaar!21:14
DBOkenvandine, I doubt bzr has anything to do with it21:15
DJKorbitDBO, what's your idea?21:15
kenvandinehaha21:15
DBODJKorbit, basically we section up the favorites store21:15
kenvandineit's like the launcher is pissed at xchat-gnome and refuses to deal with it21:15
DBOso it has an apps list, and a volumes list21:15
DBOand then we can store volumes by UUID21:15
DBOkenvandine, you code works fine here21:17
kenvandinebah!21:17
kenvandineso my unity hates me21:17
kenvandinehow can i debug it?21:17
kenvandineunity likes gedit.desktop, but not xchat-gnome.desktop21:17
bcurtiswxkenvandine, DBO, once unity gets built (its in depwait) i have this to build and test  http://paste.ubuntu.com/565562/21:18
DBOkenvandine, if you can figure out a test case21:19
DBOkenvandine, have you tried restarting unity21:19
DBOdoes that cause it to work?21:19
kenvandinerestarting didn't seem to help21:19
kenvandinewell, i might have started xchat-gnome before testing it with this example21:20
kenvandinei am wondering if that is messing up the launcher21:20
DBOi doubt it21:21
kenvandineha!21:21
kenvandineyes... it must be21:21
kenvandineif i restart unity and don't start xchat-gnome that test works21:21
kenvandinethere is something in my plugin for xchat-gnome that is pissing off the launcher21:22
DBOwait how do I reproduce the problem?21:22
DJKorbitDBO, i'm thinking that in order to fix the bug of the unmounted volumes showing up, i'll have to change the usage of GVolume to GMount21:24
kenvandineso i guess my testing of the indicator plugin for xchat had gotten the launcher in a bad state21:24
DJKorbitto be able to check if it's mounted before adding it to the launcher21:24
DBODJKorbit, why?21:24
DBOcant you check if a GVolume is mounted?21:24
kenvandinethe vala example does work if i run it before i start messing with xchat-gnome-indicator21:25
DBOkenvandine, there is no state...21:25
DBOlet me double check21:25
DJKorbitDBO, i've just double checked, i have to use the get_mount function on the GVolume, to get a GMount and check if it's mounted21:25
DJKorbiti'll try that now to see if it works21:25
kenvandineDBO, how does it handle multiple references to the LauncherEntry?21:26
DBOlast person to tell it what to do gets it21:26
DBOits kinda nasty like that21:27
DBObecause in his wisdom21:27
bcurtiswxkenvandine, do you have to close your xchat-gnome for the launcher to start behaving incorrectly?21:27
DBOkamstrup gave me no way to track if a remote person falls of the bus21:27
kenvandineso if i get the LauncherEntry then quit, start again and get the LauncherEntry21:29
kenvandinewhat happens?21:29
DBOkenvandine, the local state and remote state dont stay synced21:30
DBOagain... this is why I am slightly annoyed with kamstrup21:30
kenvandineok, so if those get out of whack i am kind of hosed right?21:30
DBOno just set it and you are on your merry way21:30
DBOunless he rate limited it21:30
DBOerm21:30
DBOyou know what I mean21:31
kenvandineok21:31
DJKorbitDBO, just compiled and installed my new code21:34
DBODJKorbit, yeah?21:34
DJKorbitDBO, going to restart unity, cross your fingers21:34
DBOcrossed21:34
DJKorbitdamn, icons still there21:35
DBO:P21:35
DBOkenvandine, DJKorbit, brb21:35
DBOkenvandine, get me a well defined test case if you can21:35
DJKorbitwhich means that something is not right because the code should not be running21:35
DBOkenvandine, and I will try my best to solve it21:35
DBODJKorbit, probably running the wrong Unity plugin21:36
DBOpoke kenvandine about that, hes an expert on solving those problems21:36
DJKorbitDBO, ok21:36
DJKorbitkenvandine, can you save me?21:36
DBOkenvandine, I have a theory21:38
DBOmaybe it works on initial export but not something in a callback21:38
DBOwe can easily test that21:38
DBOkenvandine, can you make the example code first create the object, but not set any properties for 5 seconds21:38
DBOthen see if it still works right21:38
DBOkenvandine, I am going to step out really quick for a shower21:39
DBOI'll be right back21:39
DBOping kenvandine?21:58
DJKorbitDBO, i'll try to follow the INSTALL instructions because i'm sure that something is wrong22:01
DJKorbiti change the code but nothing happens22:02
DBOokay22:02
DJKorbitDBO, i'm cloning compiz-with-glib-mainloop and i'll compile/install it now22:03
DBODJKorbit, okay22:03
DBOIm sorry this is a bit of a pain to make work22:03
DJKorbitindeed!22:03
DJKorbitbut i'll survive22:03
bcurtiswxkenvandine could have left for today22:05
DBObcurtiswx, its not like him to leave without mentioning it...22:06
bcurtiswxDBO, :( he does that to me all the time.... :P22:07
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DBOkenvandine, I think I found your bug22:20
DBOworking it out22:20
DBOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH FOUND IT22:37
DJKorbitDBO, what bug?22:38
DBOlibunity not sending updates22:38
DJKorbiti'm not familiar with that bug22:38
DBOkenvandine, i fixed it22:39
DBOit was mikkels bug22:39
DBOhell yeah22:39
DBOI fixed a mikkel bug22:39
DBOthats like a once in a lifetime thing22:39
DJKorbitLOL22:39
DBOdo not think I am joking22:39
DJKorbiti don't know who mikkel is22:40
DBOmikkel is a man who codes no bugs22:43
DBOI think hes a robot22:43
DBOthe myth might be bigger than the man22:44
DBObut to be honest22:44
DBOhe is an excellent coder22:44
DBOvery rarely do you catch him make a mistake22:44
cando_DJKorbit, if you want to meet the myth...kamstrup is the name you're searching for..22:48
DJKorbit:)22:48
bcurtiswxis main slow or what today22:59
DBOwhat now?22:59
bcurtiswxhaha, nothing.. unity's been published for 2 hours now.. still can't apt-get it and im using Main Server22:59
DBOah23:00
DBOmain server23:00
DBOgot it23:00
bcurtiswxoh, what else would main be?23:01
DBOsome people refer to that as trunk23:02
bcurtiswxhmm, learned something new :)23:02
DBOerm23:03
bcurtiswxplace-applications and place-files.. do we need that anymore?23:03
DBOsorry I meant that the other way around23:03
DBOsome people refer to trunk as "main"23:03
DBOyes23:03
bcurtiswxwell, either way.. i've still learned something new :)23:03
bcurtiswxhmm, i have all updates now, but it wants to remove those23:04
DJKorbitDBO, i've compiled everything, going to test my code again23:21
DBODJKorbit, sounds good23:21
DJKorbiti'll do a printf if a volume is skipped for not being mounted, just for debug purposes23:22
DBODJKorbit, sounds smart :)23:22
bcurtiswxDBO, does unity provide unity-places-applications/files ?23:22
DBOwe do a lot of printf debugging on compiz23:22
DBObcurtiswx, not if you dont have the daemons running23:23
DBObcurtiswx, places are external daemons that talk to the window manager via dbus23:23
bcurtiswxDBO, so apt wanting to remove unity-places-* is correct? sorry im confused23:23
DBOuhm23:24
DBOprobably not23:24
DBOwhy does it want to remove them?23:24
bcurtiswxDBO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/565606/23:25
bcurtiswxbcurtis@wx:~$ aptitude why-not unity-place-files   Unable to find a reason to remove unity-place-files.23:26
DBObcurtiswx, do the keep-all thing23:26
DJKorbitDBO, nothing is working now23:26
DJKorbiti can't even run unity23:26
bcurtiswxkeep-all?23:26
DBOsudo aptitude keepall23:26
DBOor keep-all23:27
DBOsomething like that23:27
DJKorbiti did a compiz --replace &23:27
DBODJKorbit, :/23:27
DJKorbitfollows by a ccsm to enable unity23:27
DJKorbitunity was already enabled, i tried disabling it and enabling it again but nothing happens23:27
bcurtiswxDBO: keep-all did nothing23:27
DBObcurtiswx, let it remove them then reinstall them23:27
bcurtiswxOK23:28
DJKorbitwhy is it so difficult to test one line of code?23:28
DBODJKorbit, erm :)23:29
DJKorbiti'm sad, i want to code, but i can't23:29
DBODJKorbit, I understand23:29
DBOI'll see if I cant come up with a standard script for doing this kind of testing23:30
bcurtiswxDBO: unity-place-files : Depends: libunity3 (< 3.2.16) but 3.4.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed23:30
bcurtiswxwhen trying to reinstall23:30
DJKorbiti'm getting a "unity-panel-service: no process found" error23:30
DJKorbitwhat might have gone wrong?23:31
DBODJKorbit, the plugin is trying to find unity-panel-service, which is a binary to display menus for unity23:31
DBODJKorbit, it cant find it23:31
DBODJKorbit, it would be looking where you set the install prefix to be23:32
DJKorbiti installed everything to /opt/unity23:32
DJKorbiti'm going to bed, another day without being able to test just a printf inside unity's code :(23:33
DBO:(23:33
DJKorbiti'll unassign myself from the bugs because i can't produce a single line of code23:35
DJKorbiti can produce it, but i can't test it23:35
DBODJKorbit, thats reasonable23:36
DJKorbitDBO, tomorrow i'll try again to work on the code23:41
DJKorbiti mean, trying to start my compiled version of unity23:41
DBOI'll see if I cant get someone to help you figure out how to install your local copy23:42
DJKorbitthanks very much23:42
DJKorbitsee you tomorrow, time to sleep23:42
DBOcheers23:42

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