[00:07] <DBO> RAOF, nah compiz already informs you of this shit
[00:07] <DBO> you just need to relayout this stuff
[00:07] <DBO> no X required
[00:07] <RAOF> Oh, that's less insane.
[00:50] <Omega> Under which package should I file a bug from the indicator panel?
[00:51] <jono> Omega, which panel?
[00:57] <Omega> jono: Top right, all my indicators are frozen
[00:58] <Omega> (time, everything)
[00:58] <jono> Omega, natty?
[00:58] <Omega> Mhm
[01:08] <jono> Omega, can you right click the desktop and then does it work?
[01:12] <Omega> jono: I can rightclieck the desktop but it does not fix it
[01:12] <Omega> Also, there's a desktop icon that keeps flashing on my desktop
[01:13] <rbnswartz> I'm having a problem grabbing the unity and nux code from launchpad. Any help?
[01:19] <jono> Omega, strange - it sounds like the focus bug
[01:19] <jono> Omega, I think a fix might be ready for it
[01:19] <Omega> Hmm
[01:20] <Omega> My time still says 7:11, it's 9:20
[01:21] <jono> Omega, ahhh it is definitely that bug
[01:21] <jono> because it crashes the date/time indicator
[01:21] <jono> did you upgrade today Omega?
[01:21] <Omega> I did
[01:21] <jono> strange
[01:21] <Omega> Didn't reboot yet though
[01:21] <jono> ahhhh reboot
[01:21] <jono> I didnt notice it today
[01:21] <jono> so it might be fixed
[01:22] <Omega> (All my indicators are frozen)
[01:22] <Omega> And I can't launch apps with unity launcher
[01:23] <jono> Omega, yeah, reboot
[01:23] <jono> I think you will be good
[01:23] <jono> Ctrl-Alt-F2 and run 'sudo reboot now' in a terminal
[01:24] <Omega> Or I can ctrl-alt-del
[01:24] <Omega> But I'm working on something
[01:24] <Omega> I'll do that when I'm finished
[01:25] <jono> cool
[01:33] <rbnswartz> I can't use bzr to download the unity or nux source does anyone know of another way to get it?
[01:34] <rbnswartz> I get an error about Permission denied (publickey)
[04:05] <kenvandine> DBO, ping
[04:05] <DBO> pong
[04:05] <DBO> whats up
[04:06] <kenvandine> hey dude
[04:06] <kenvandine> unity.h doesn't have unity_launcher_entry_new
[04:06] <kenvandine> can i just use unity_launcher_entry_get_for_desktop_id
[04:07] <kenvandine> unity_launcher_entry_get_for_desktop_id ("xchat-gnome.desktop")
[04:07] <kenvandine> ?
[04:07] <DBO> yes
[04:07] <DBO> sorry I suppose the wiki is wrong...
[04:07] <kenvandine> thought so.. not working those :)
[04:08] <DBO> i dont know what I was thinking
[04:08] <DBO> can you update the wiki too
[04:08] <kenvandine> i will
[04:08] <DBO> im really sorry
[04:08] <kenvandine> not working, not sure why
[04:08] <DBO> whats not?
[04:08] <kenvandine> no errors... and no count displayed
[04:08] <DBO> did you run a main loop?
[04:08] <kenvandine> humm... not myself
[04:09] <kenvandine> it is a plugin for xchat-gnome
[04:09] <DBO> can I see the code you made?
[04:09] <kenvandine> sure
[04:10] <kenvandine> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/565242/
[04:10] <kenvandine> and launcher is created with
[04:10] <kenvandine> launcher = unity_launcher_entry_get_for_desktop_id ("xchat-indicator.desktop");
[04:11]  * kenvandine just pushes the code
[04:11] <DBO> xchat-gnome.desktop
[04:11] <DBO> not xchat-indicator.desktop
[04:12] <kenvandine> oh!
[04:12] <kenvandine> damn :)
[04:12] <kenvandine> silly me
[04:13] <DBO> its okay
[04:13] <DBO> I understand :)
[04:14]  * kenvandine tests
[04:16] <kenvandine> shit... still no luck
[04:18] <kenvandine> DBO, could these critical's be a sign of a problem?
[04:18] <kenvandine> (xchat-gnome:22105): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_dbus_method_invocation_return_dbus_error: assertion `error_name != NULL && g_dbus_is_name (error_name)' failed
[04:18] <kenvandine> i get 3 of those right after it sets the count
[04:19] <kenvandine> but i am not sure it is from the call to set the count or something else in xchat-gnome
[04:19] <DBO> no idea
[04:19] <DBO>  sounds like it
[04:19]  * kenvandine tests without the launcher
[04:19] <DBO> kenvandine, are you running unity trunk?
[04:19] <kenvandine> yes
[04:20] <DBO> does the test app work?
[04:20] <kenvandine> i didn't try
[04:20] <kenvandine> let me do that
[04:21] <kenvandine> where is the test app?
[04:22] <DBO> wiki page
[04:22] <kenvandine> oh
[04:22] <kenvandine> the vala sample code :)
[04:22] <kenvandine> i was thinking there was something in the unity tree :)
[04:23] <DBO> OH YEAH, MY CRACK IS SO GOOD
[04:23]  * DBO dances
[04:25] <DBO> I just got the drag behavior working for dropping below the launcher
[04:25] <kenvandine> woot
[04:25] <DBO> which is kind of odd because I dont yet have the launcher popping up on random drags
[04:25] <DBO> but wtf
[04:25] <DBO> its good shit
[04:25] <kenvandine> something's not right here, the sample isn't even building
[04:25] <DBO> okay
[04:26] <kenvandine> must be pkgconfig nonsense
[04:26] <DBO> yeah I blame you
[04:26] <kenvandine> :)
[04:26] <kenvandine> i have it all installed in /opt/unity
[04:26]  * kenvandine fiddles shit
[04:27] <kenvandine> ok, i blame DBO for this failure
[04:27] <kenvandine> launcherexample.vala:7.13-7.57: error: `Unity.LauncherEntry' does not have a default constructor
[04:27] <kenvandine> :-D
[04:28] <DBO> shut your pie hole
[04:28] <DBO> that example code is from kamstrup
[04:28] <kenvandine> haha
[04:28]  * kenvandine looks at the vapi
[04:28] <DBO> further, kamstrup doesn't have bugs
[04:28] <kenvandine> so i hear
[04:28] <kenvandine> must be nice
[04:28] <DBO> its true
[04:29] <DBO> okay, any theories on how to get xwininfo of the xdnd window?
[04:29]  * spikeb has his netbook running natty. unity works far better than it sounds like it should from here
[04:30] <DBO> spikeb, if you are referencing the crap coming out of my mouth
[04:30] <DBO> you sir know nothing of my work
[04:31] <kenvandine> DBO, ok, so with this example, i should see the count on the evo launcher right?
[04:31] <spikeb> heh
[04:31] <DBO> kenvandine, indeed
[04:31] <kenvandine> ok... not working :/
[04:31] <DBO> I swear to god some day I will reach that balmer peak
[04:31] <DBO> kenvandine, errors?
[04:31] <kenvandine> nope
[04:31] <kenvandine> none
[04:32] <DBO> have you tried blaming someone else?
[04:32] <DBO> you starting it after unity was running right?
[04:32] <kenvandine> how can i confirm i am running the right version the launcher?
[04:32] <kenvandine> yes
[04:32] <kenvandine>  opt/unity/bin/unity --replace
[04:32] <kenvandine>  /opt/unity/bin/unity --replace
[04:33] <DBO> kenvandine, open ccsm
[04:33] <kenvandine> done
[04:33] <DBO> kenvandine, if you go into the experimental tab and you see 3 drop downs
[04:33] <DBO> you are good to go
[04:33] <kenvandine> ok, i don't
[04:33] <DBO> what do you see
[04:33] <kenvandine> that explains stuff
[04:33] <DBO> 2 drop downs and a checkbox?
[04:33] <kenvandine> yes
[04:33] <DBO> yeah get a better unity
[04:33] <DBO> skank
[04:34] <kenvandine> so how do i do that?
[04:34] <DBO> i could not tell you
[04:34] <kenvandine> /opt/unity/bin/unity --replace
[04:34] <kenvandine> i would think that should run the version in /opt!
[04:34] <DBO> I dont do it that way when developing
[04:34] <DBO> well dont look at me!
[04:34] <DBO> I just code!
[04:34] <kenvandine> hehe
[04:34] <DBO> I dont understand packaging
[04:34] <DBO> its a dark voodoo art
[04:34] <kenvandine> this isn't packaing
[04:34] <kenvandine> i did a make install :)
[04:34] <kenvandine> so it looks like compiz is loading the wrong plugin
[04:35] <DBO> yeah but you didn't install it how *I* install it
[04:35] <kenvandine> which i know squat about how it finds the plugins
[04:35] <kenvandine> i just followed the directions on the wiki, so i blame jcastro
[04:35] <DBO> actually I wrote those instructions
[04:35] <DBO> so
[04:35] <kenvandine> haha
[04:35] <kenvandine> :)
[04:35] <DBO> you can blame me
[04:35] <DBO> but when you figure it out
[04:35] <kenvandine> awesome
[04:35] <DBO> fix that wiki page too
[04:35] <kenvandine> hehe
[04:35] <kenvandine> knew that was coming
[04:36] <DBO> well look
[04:36] <DBO> I clearly have shown to be greatly incompetent on wiki pages
[04:36] <DBO> so you cant ask me to do it
[04:36] <kenvandine> nice excuse
[04:36] <kenvandine> :)
[04:36] <DBO> thanks
[04:36]  * kenvandine tries to figure out why compiz doesn't like this 
[04:38] <DBO> I have no idea what unity is
[04:38] <DBO> as a binary
[04:38] <DBO> that is
[04:38] <DBO> is it a shell script?
[04:43] <kenvandine> python
[04:46] <kenvandine> damn this is crazy... 10m to add launcher support to xchat-indicator, an hour to figure out how to make compiz load the right plugin
[04:47] <DBO> kenvandine, its called "becoming compiz's bitch"
[04:47] <DBO> it does it to us all sooner or later
[04:47] <DBO> eventually you'll start to like it
[05:00] <kenvandine> yay
[05:00] <kenvandine> i didn't really figure it out, but i copied files around and now can see my count :)
[05:09] <DBO> kenvandine, happy for you buddy
[05:09] <DBO> have a cookie
[05:09] <DBO> kenvandine, you know what I just made work?
[05:09] <DBO> always unhide when dnd is active
[05:09] <DBO> thats right biotch
[05:10] <kenvandine> DBO, http://ubuntuone.com/p/cVu/
[05:11] <kenvandine> DBO, nice :)
[05:15] <DBO> kenvandine, you are a gentleman and a scholar
[05:15] <DBO> your xchat has 1 thing to tell you
[05:17] <DBO> kenvandine, wanna be my guinea pig?
[05:17] <kenvandine> sure
[05:18] <DBO> kenvandine, well no, lets be more clear. want to be my *direct* guinea pig (you are already my guinea pig after all)
[05:18] <kenvandine> just call me your biotch!
[05:18] <kenvandine> unity_launcher_entry_set_count_visible (launcher, FALSE);
[05:18] <kenvandine> doesn't hide my count
[05:20] <DBO> kenvandine, lp:~unity-team/unity/unity.dnd-elsewhere
[05:20] <DBO> try that branch out for me
[05:20] <DBO> kenvandine, really?
[05:20] <DBO> okay I will look into it
[05:20] <DBO> please try my branch
[05:21] <kenvandine> works in the vala example
[05:21] <kenvandine> and i confirmed my code is getting called
[05:21] <kenvandine> just not hiding
[05:21] <kenvandine> anyway
[05:21]  * kenvandine grabs
[05:21] <DBO> well then I blame you!
[05:25] <kenvandine> DBO, unity_launcher_entry_get_count_visible is returning FALSE, but it is still displayed
[05:26] <kenvandine> building your branch now
[05:26] <kenvandine> DBO, must be some rendering issue of some sort, changing the count doesn't change it either
[05:26] <kenvandine> but get_count returns the count i am setting
[05:27] <DBO> kenvandine, its lost its reference on the launcher side
[05:29] <DBO> kenvandine, we'll have to blame kamstrup
[05:32] <kenvandine> ok, running your branch
[05:32] <kenvandine> what do you want me to do?
[05:33] <DBO> kenvandine, position a window so the launcher hides
[05:33] <DBO> then start a drag from nautilus
[05:33] <DBO> that launcher should unhide
[05:34] <kenvandine> nice!
[05:34] <kenvandine> works
[05:34] <DBO> kenvandine, okay now the next one is more shakey
[05:34] <DBO> first click on a menu at the top (this is a priming action)
[05:34] <DBO> just open a menu
[05:34] <DBO> then close
[05:34] <DBO> then start a drag
[05:34] <DBO> and press your mouse against the far left of the launcher
[05:35] <DBO> it should eventually hide itself
[05:35] <DBO> so you can access whats below it
[05:36] <kenvandine> i don't understand
[05:36] <DBO> if you take a drag
[05:36] <DBO> and push against the left side of the screen
[05:36] <DBO> so your cusor is at (0, y)
[05:36] <kenvandine> i see
[05:36] <DBO> assuming compiz didn't steal the drag from you
[05:36] <DBO> the launcher will hdie itself
[05:37] <kenvandine> it did
[05:37] <DBO> sweet
[05:37] <kenvandine> but was a little chunky feeling
[05:37] <kenvandine> but worked :)
[05:37] <kenvandine> nice!
[05:37] <DBO> yeah its got a "drag" to it
[05:37] <DBO> basically you get 500ms to go "oops I dont want it to go away"
[05:37] <DBO> and pull away for (0, y)
[05:38] <DBO> is that what you were seeing?
[05:39] <DBO> kenvandine?
[05:39] <kenvandine> i think so
[05:39] <kenvandine> it dims first
[05:40] <kenvandine> then it hides
[05:41] <DBO> the dimming is actually it hinting where you can drop
[05:41] <DBO> so like if you drag a text file over it
[05:41] <DBO> everything but gedit should dim
[05:41] <DBO> it does a mime check
[05:42] <kenvandine> right
[05:42] <DBO> kenvandine, its my bed time :)
[05:42] <DBO> goodnight :)
[05:42] <kenvandine> good night!
[05:43] <kenvandine> thx dude
[05:43] <DBO> thank you for testing
[05:43] <kenvandine> anytime
[05:45] <DBO> I'll hold you to that
[06:48] <kvalo> morning
[07:38] <didrocks> good morning
[07:56] <RAOF> It is to the credit of compiz that it's still nice and responsive as my machine slowly dies under the 2GiB of swap usage...
[07:56] <didrocks> hehe :)
[07:56] <didrocks> hey RAOF!
[07:56] <didrocks> RAOF: do you think that the nvidia driver will come soon?
[07:56] <RAOF> Hey didrocks!
[07:57] <RAOF> Probably.
[07:57] <RAOF> I suspect they'll wait for 1.10 RC2 to be released, as that will (should!) have the final ABI.
[07:57] <RAOF> The beta driver they have available for 1.10 is built against RC1, and that has a different ABI to us.  Joy!
[07:58] <RAOF> (Just in case you were thinking of installing the beta driver behind dpkg's back!)
[07:59] <didrocks> RAOF: urgh, ok ;)
[07:59] <didrocks> RAOF: still on the old Xorg then :)
[08:00] <RAOF> Yup.  *I'd* like 1.10RC2 to be released, too, so we have a nice milestone for incorporating the Xi2 multitouch work and some Debian packaging changes.
[08:01] <oSoMoN> good morning
[08:01] <RAOF> Also, I'd like a pony and an awesome 13" tablet laptop with 1080p display and multitouch screen.
[08:09] <MacSlow> greetings
[08:10] <RAOF> Morning MacSlow
[08:10] <MacSlow> hey RAOF
[10:03] <DJKorbit> good morning
[12:37] <didrocks> kamstrup: libunity is still Monday's tarball, nothing new, right?
[12:52] <smspillaz> RAOF: I also want what you want
[12:53] <smspillaz> (the pony that is, screw the laptop)
[12:55] <kamstrup> didrocks: right
[12:56] <didrocks> kamstrup: excellent, just to sum up, places aren't using libunity, isn't it? directly dee? (not sure with the refactoring)
[12:59] <Kaleo> I have the alpha 2 version of Unity and it's working great
[13:00] <Kaleo> is it more or less safe to use the Unity daily ppa?
[13:37] <didrocks> Kaleo: not right now ;)
[13:40] <Kaleo> didrocks: ok :)
[13:47] <didrocks> kamstrup: ^^ (in case you didn't see my question :))
[13:56] <ronoc> kenvandine,
[13:56] <ronoc> should I roll a tarball ?
[14:37] <kenvandine> ronoc, yes please
[15:33] <didrocks> hum, no kamstrup :/
[15:40] <kenvandine> didrocks, i've been waiting for him too :)
[15:40] <didrocks> kenvandine: well, I asked some question for libunity when he was still there :/
[15:40] <kenvandine> ah... ignored, that is worse :)
[15:41] <didrocks> kenvandine: let's say the hackfest side-tracked him
[15:41] <kenvandine> :)
[15:53] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine, http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2011/02/10/live-blog-running-pc-pro-on-ubuntu/ 3:35PM is their "rant" on gwibber.  figured you may be interested in reading
[15:53] <kenvandine> bcurtiswx, definately, thx
[15:53] <bcurtiswx> 3:25PM
[15:53] <bcurtiswx> i meant
[15:55] <kenvandine> bcurtiswx, i guess it isn't obvious that it shortens urls automatically :)
[15:55] <kenvandine> we do need the twitter realtime stuff though
[15:56] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine, that would be nice, since they don't have any issues like facebook :-X
[16:07] <nmarques> hello
[16:47] <ronoc> kenvandine, any luck with that release
[16:48] <kenvandine> ronoc, oh... i must have missed that you had created one
[16:48] <kenvandine> ronoc, sorry
[16:48] <ronoc> kenvandine, https://launchpad.net/indicator-sound/third/0.5.9
[16:48] <ronoc> kenvandine, no worries
[16:48] <kenvandine> cool, i'll grab it
[16:48] <ronoc> sound
[16:51] <DBO> didrocks, if you want to claim this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/706146
[16:52] <DBO> just a suggestion :P
[16:53] <didrocks> DBO: yeah, claiming ;)
[17:19] <ronoc> kenvandine, distcheck should be fine :)
[17:22] <kenvandine> ronoc, cool :)
[17:22] <ronoc> made sure to check
[17:27] <bcurtiswx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/565470/ building libunity failed.. i have installed the girepository1.0-dev
[17:33] <didrocks> bcurtiswx: wait for my package to be published :)
[17:33] <bcurtiswx> didrocks, rgr that
[17:33]  * bcurtiswx waits
[17:35] <achiang> hello, how does indicator-me's package get created? indicator-datetime has a packaging recipe, but i don't see one for indicator-me
[17:37] <ronoc> bcurtiswx, have you installed gobject-introspection  from apt
[17:38] <bcurtiswx> ronoc, nope , thx.. lol
[17:38] <ronoc> bcurtiswx, :)
[17:45] <ronoc> kenvandine, I need to finish on time today, release any good ?
[17:45] <kenvandine> i think it is good
[17:45] <kenvandine> can't logout and back in to test yet though
[17:45] <kenvandine> but i restarted the service and it seems good
[17:46] <kenvandine> should get it uploaded as soon as something else finishes building
[17:50] <ronoc> kenvandine, oh cool, I'll keep an eye out. thx
[17:55] <nmarques> kenvandine, gj on indicator date-time and indicator-sound ;)
[18:04] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine, functions in empathy-indicator-manager with _cb .. cb = callback?
[18:04] <kenvandine> yup
[18:04] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine, what exactly does a callback do?
[18:08] <kenvandine> bcurtiswx, a function called when a signal is received
[18:08] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine, OK thx
[18:08]  * bcurtiswx is trying to add the new unity stuff to empathy
[18:09] <bcurtiswx> im going based partly on your branch for xchat
[18:14] <DJKorbit> hi
[18:14] <DJKorbit> i think i've found a solution to bug 710809
[18:15] <DJKorbit> i'm compiling my code now
[18:17] <bcurtiswx> unity just went kaploooey on me :(
[18:23] <DJKorbit> unity is using icons of which dimensions?
[18:28] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/xchat-indicator/add_unity_launcher_support/revision/25  can I basically copy that into empathy as is?
[18:29] <kenvandine> bcurtiswx, somewhat
[18:29] <kenvandine> places where the indicator gets added and removed
[18:29] <kenvandine> to manage the count
[18:29] <kenvandine> empathy will be a bit more complez
[18:29] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine, sorry i wasn't specific enough.. the configure.ac part
[18:29] <kenvandine> complex even
[18:29] <kenvandine> sure
[18:29] <kenvandine> yeah
[18:30] <bcurtiswx> i'm going to play around with the emapthy-indicator-manager.c and empathy-indicator.c part to find those areas where counts are manipulated
[18:51] <lamalex> hey DBO what's the word on this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/716204
[18:53] <DBO> lamalex, nothing yet
[18:54] <lamalex> :\ ugh ok
[18:55] <nmarques> anyone knows where to grab the changelog of the latest nux and unity ?
[18:55] <DJKorbit> DBO, i can't seem to fix the question mark icon bug :(
[18:55] <DBO> what bug?
[18:55] <DJKorbit> bug 710809
[18:56] <lamalex> we're not supposed to show them anyway
[18:56] <lamalex> so I wouldn't spend too much time on it :P
[18:56] <DJKorbit> lamalex, i'm spending time on it because, when they do show up (after being mounted) it also shows up with a question mark
[18:56] <DBO> DJKorbit, i'll look at it in a bit
[18:57] <DJKorbit> i'm working on DeviceLauncherSection.cpp
[18:57] <lamalex> DJKorbit, but time should be spent making it now show icons for unmounted drives- as I understand it, it's only supposed to show mounted
[18:57] <lamalex> DBO, is there a spec from design on that?
[18:57] <lamalex> I thought I asked njpatel that question earlier today
[18:57] <DBO> not really
[18:58] <DJKorbit> the problem is that SetIconName method is trying to set the first name returned by g_themed_icon_get_names ()
[18:58] <DJKorbit> which returns "drive-harddisk-ata"
[18:59] <DJKorbit> which is an icon that is not present
[18:59] <DJKorbit> i tried hard-coding SetIconName to DEFAULT_ICON, which is an icon of a usb pen drive but it continues to show the question mark
[19:01] <DJKorbit> i also tried doing some printf's in the code but i don't get any output
[19:03] <DJKorbit> i guess this is not a trivial bug to fix after all :(
[19:04] <DJKorbit> DBO, any ideas?
[19:05] <DBO> hmmm
[19:05] <DBO> not right now
[19:05] <DBO> I will have to have a chance to sit down adn look at that code
[19:05] <DJKorbit> ok
[19:05] <DJKorbit> i'm just doing make, sudo make install and running unity again
[19:06] <DJKorbit> i'm doing it as i should right?
[19:06] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine, you said you were having problems with the indicator not updating properly with your xchat unity changes ?
[19:06] <kenvandine> yeah
[19:06] <kenvandine> well, not the indicator
[19:07] <kenvandine> the launcher
[19:07] <bcurtiswx> the launcher doesn't change the number once you click the icon ?
[19:07] <kenvandine> it doesn't change it even if it needs to increment
[19:07] <kenvandine> and it doesn't hide when i hide it
[19:08] <kenvandine> seems like something is broken on the launcher side
[19:08] <bcurtiswx> well anyways could it be that you need code in the update_indicator section of indicator.c
[19:08] <kenvandine> nah
[19:08] <kenvandine> that only updates the timestamp on an existing one
[19:08] <kenvandine> in this case i only care about the number changing
[19:09] <DJKorbit> i'm going now
[19:09] <DJKorbit> bye
[19:14] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine, your addition to the xchat_plugin_init.. what would be the equivalent in empathy do you think?
[19:24] <kenvandine> bcurtiswx, not sure, i would need to look at the code
[19:25] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine, ok i'll look at the code.  to test it out do I need to reset unity at all after i make changes to the empathy code?
[19:26] <kenvandine> nope
[19:26] <bcurtiswx> cool, now all i need is for the new libunity to get published
[19:26] <kenvandine> and new unity so you can actually see it
[19:26] <bcurtiswx> correct
[19:36] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine, sorry to bother you again.. the indicator_manager_event_[added|removed|updated]_cb i believe I should be focused on.. does that seem right to you.
[19:37] <bcurtiswx> i guess this is the "fun" of playing around with the code
[19:37] <bcurtiswx> hehe
[19:38] <nhaines> Does anyone here work with the Ubuntu Font Family project or do they hide somewhere else?  :)
[19:43] <bcurtiswx> didrocks, is unity 3.4.2 going to make it today with libunity that's already here?
[19:44] <didrocks> bcurtiswx: yeah, I'm just pushing it
[19:44] <bcurtiswx> didrocks, ah great. :)
[19:45] <didrocks> bcurtiswx: will take one hour as nux should be published first
[19:45] <bcurtiswx> didrocks, nbd.  I am getting empathy ready for the new libunity  :)
[19:46] <didrocks> hehe, nice!
[19:46] <didrocks> nux and unity uploaded
[19:46] <DBO> didrocks, does unity proper depend on it?
[19:47] <didrocks> DBO: of course :)
[19:47] <DBO> libunity that is
[19:47] <didrocks> oh no
[19:47] <DBO> i have no idea
[19:47] <didrocks> I checked
[19:47] <didrocks> so libunity doesn't depend on it
[19:47] <didrocks> DBO: but the first application which will be linked with libunity will bring it
[19:47] <DBO> I cant seem to code right now
[19:47] <DBO> its not coming
[19:47] <DBO> I dont know why
[19:47] <didrocks> so ideally, libunity should recommend unity :)
[19:48] <didrocks> DBO: well, you worked a lot yesterday
[19:48] <DBO> and the day before
[19:48] <DBO> landed two major branches in two days
[19:48] <bcurtiswx> didrocks, \o/
[19:48] <DBO> im trying to land the rest of the DND features for the launcher
[19:48] <didrocks> DBO: excellent :)
[19:49] <didrocks> waow, it seems weird now that there is not the "Open New window"
[19:49] <didrocks> the quicklist seems so small :)
[19:49] <DBO> yeah dont we have support for that in .desktop files?
[19:49] <bcurtiswx> ooh, what happened to that?
[19:49] <didrocks> DBO: we will have to patch the entire weird
[19:49] <bcurtiswx> i use it alot for terminal
[19:49] <didrocks> world!
[19:49] <didrocks> bcurtiswx: middle click
[19:49] <DBO> didrocks, i know
[19:49] <DBO> but that shit happens
[19:49] <bcurtiswx> shweeet!
[19:50] <didrocks> DBO: maximize is taking 4 seconds here
[19:50] <didrocks> I think that my system is that slow…
[19:50] <didrocks> (just a terminator window with nothing in it…)
[19:52] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/xchat-indicator/add_unity_launcher_support/revision/25#configure.ac line 302 and 303.. seems to be an extra NULL in there
[19:53] <didrocks> kenvandine: you are dropping the indicator support and replace by a quicklist?
[19:53] <kenvandine> didrocks, no... adding a count for unseen messages
[19:54] <kenvandine> in addition to the indicator :)
[19:54]  * spikeb sighs
[19:54] <spikeb> i knew this would happen.
[19:54] <didrocks> kenvandine: oh ok :)
[19:54] <kenvandine> bcurtiswx, i forget what the 3rd arg is for  g_strconcat, but NULL is fine :)
[19:54]  * kenvandine goes to get some food, bbiab
[19:54] <didrocks> DBO: I think that the launcher shouldn't reveil though when we have new count
[19:54] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine, OK thx :)
[19:54] <DBO> didrocks, what?
[19:54] <didrocks> DBO: otherwise, the launchers item will keep coming in hidden mode
[19:55] <didrocks> DBO: like, if you have another "message" in evolution or in xchat, don't show the launcher item as in the urgent mode
[19:56] <didrocks> DBO: otherwise with all the app that would be opened, I'm afraid to see launcher items keeps coming and hiding
[19:57] <DBO> didrocks, i dont set the urgent mode
[19:57] <DBO> the application does
[19:59] <didrocks> DBO: ok, I was wondering if you had a plan to "show" when a count change or whatever… that would have been a bad idea IMHO :)
[19:59] <DBO> no
[19:59] <DBO> but since applications often set urgent on times when they would update their count
[19:59] <DBO> I think that the emblems should be on the right
[19:59] <didrocks> yeah :/
[19:59] <DBO> not th eleft
[19:59] <DBO> well keep in mind you can only set urgent once
[20:00] <DBO> so if you switch away from irc
[20:00] <DBO> the client can pop out at you once
[20:06] <didrocks> DBO: right, so should be manageable
[20:06] <didrocks> in any case, it's the application side which set it
[20:06] <didrocks> so… not the launcher issue
[20:21]  * achiang is trying to find the packaging branch for indicator-sound, but in vain. anyone have any hints?
[20:28] <achiang> ah, found it under ~ubuntu-desktop
[20:29] <bcurtiswx> alrightie, empathy done, just need to test
[20:57] <jcastro> cando_: around?
[20:57] <cando_> sure
[20:57] <cando_> :)
[20:57] <cando_> jcastro, shoot
[20:57] <jcastro> do you know the latest on support for the messaging menu in emesene?
[20:58] <cando_> emesene 1 or emesene 2?
[20:58] <cando_> i personally worked on the emesene2's version
[20:58] <jcastro> oh, is 1 still around?
[20:59] <cando_> and it worked..some month ago..
[20:59] <cando_> jcastro, emesene 2 is still alpha alpha
[20:59] <cando_> :)
[20:59] <cando_> and it's not really usable
[20:59] <cando_> you're using it?
[20:59] <jcastro> no I was just wondering
[21:02] <jcastro> tedg: is there an API for apps to use the me menu
[21:02] <jcastro> so like say, an IM client can toggle the status bubble thing in the me menu
[21:02] <jcastro> kenvandine: you might know too ^
[21:03] <tedg> jcastro, not really, but they can just use telepathy.
[21:03] <tedg> jcastro, it should really be the hub for that stuff.
[21:04] <cando_> tedg, so there is no project for "adding" an API to the MeMenu???
[21:06] <tedg> cando_, Well, not really.  It has a plugin architecture, but it's built into the code.  It seems that telepathy is basically that plugin, no?
[21:06] <jcastro> emesene doesn't use telepathy afaik
[21:06] <cando_> tedg, yeah..:)
[21:06] <cando_> jcastro, emesene use python-papyon...
[21:06] <jcastro> oh really?
[21:07] <jcastro> O_O that's awesome
[21:07] <cando_> yeah
[21:07] <cando_> tedg, thanks anyway
[21:07] <tedg> The emesene guys should totally fix that :)
[21:07] <jcastro> well, he's an emesene guy
[21:07] <tedg> cando_, I'd be happy to accept a patch for emesene -- it's just an object to implement.  But it'd have to be compiled in.
[21:07] <cando_> jcastro, well...i were...:):)
[21:07] <cando_> c10ud, ^^
[21:07] <tedg> Well, not me.  I'll speak for kenvandine as he's the maintainer :)
[21:08] <cando_> tedg, cool...thanks!
[21:08]  * kenvandine sponsors tedg's packages instead of listening to him
[21:08] <jcastro> a wise plan
[21:08] <cando_> actually c10ud is the emesene's man..
[21:09] <c10ud> lol crazy emesene users?
[21:09] <tedg> Uhg, brown paper bagged libappindicator :(
[21:09]  * c10ud reading backlog
[21:09] <kenvandine> DBO, i am going to consider you  kamstrup for now, since he isn't here atm :)
[21:10] <DBO> okay, how can I help you, please phrase all questions in one word or less :)
[21:10] <kenvandine> DBO, why would the launcher refuse to display a count on the xchat-gnome launcher but it would on any other?
[21:10] <kenvandine> ha!
[21:10] <kenvandine> DBO, even the vala example won't display a count on that one
[21:10] <kenvandine> i printed out app_uri and it was right
[21:11] <DBO> kenvandine, are you sure the desktop file name is correct
[21:11] <kenvandine> according to gsettings
[21:11] <kenvandine> and it worked last night!
[21:11] <kenvandine> briefly :)
[21:11] <DBO> kenvandine, thats what she said
[21:11] <kenvandine> i couldn't change the count
[21:11] <kenvandine> hehe
[21:11] <kenvandine> yes
[21:11] <kenvandine> i am sure
[21:12] <DBO> lets look at this together
[21:12] <DBO> can I have your code
[21:12] <kenvandine> sure
[21:12] <DJKorbit> hi again
[21:12] <DJKorbit> i'm working on bug 715711 now
[21:12] <DBO> DJKorbit, awesome
[21:13] <kenvandine> DBO, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/565559/
[21:13] <DJKorbit> DBO, lets see if i can get this fixed
[21:13] <bcurtiswx> DJKorbit, if it isn't noted or known, upon a unity --reset the unmounted volumes do not show
[21:14] <c10ud> [21:57] <jcastro> do you know the latest on support for the messaging menu in emesene? >>> emesene1 nope, emesene2 has it but random segfaults made me disable the code by default
[21:14] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine, let me know of your fixes so i can implement them into my changes for empathy
[21:14] <DBO> kenvandine, that doesn't work at all for you?
[21:14] <kenvandine> no
[21:14] <DBO> kenvandine, i call shinanigans
[21:14] <kenvandine> if i change the desktop_id to gedit.desktop it works
[21:14] <kenvandine> but not for xchat-gnome.desktop
[21:14] <c10ud> lastly.. MeMenu: unknown
[21:14] <DBO> DJKorbit, I thought about how to implement your pinning thing too
[21:14]  * bcurtiswx wonders why shinanigans never answers their phone :-\
[21:14] <kenvandine> DBO, it is bazaar!
[21:15] <DBO> kenvandine, I doubt bzr has anything to do with it
[21:15] <DJKorbit> DBO, what's your idea?
[21:15] <kenvandine> haha
[21:15] <DBO> DJKorbit, basically we section up the favorites store
[21:15] <kenvandine> it's like the launcher is pissed at xchat-gnome and refuses to deal with it
[21:15] <DBO> so it has an apps list, and a volumes list
[21:15] <DBO> and then we can store volumes by UUID
[21:17] <DBO> kenvandine, you code works fine here
[21:17] <kenvandine> bah!
[21:17] <kenvandine> so my unity hates me
[21:17] <kenvandine> how can i debug it?
[21:17] <kenvandine> unity likes gedit.desktop, but not xchat-gnome.desktop
[21:18] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine, DBO, once unity gets built (its in depwait) i have this to build and test  http://paste.ubuntu.com/565562/
[21:19] <DBO> kenvandine, if you can figure out a test case
[21:19] <DBO> kenvandine, have you tried restarting unity
[21:19] <DBO> does that cause it to work?
[21:19] <kenvandine> restarting didn't seem to help
[21:20] <kenvandine> well, i might have started xchat-gnome before testing it with this example
[21:20] <kenvandine> i am wondering if that is messing up the launcher
[21:21] <DBO> i doubt it
[21:21] <kenvandine> ha!
[21:21] <kenvandine> yes... it must be
[21:21] <kenvandine> if i restart unity and don't start xchat-gnome that test works
[21:22] <kenvandine> there is something in my plugin for xchat-gnome that is pissing off the launcher
[21:22] <DBO> wait how do I reproduce the problem?
[21:24] <DJKorbit> DBO, i'm thinking that in order to fix the bug of the unmounted volumes showing up, i'll have to change the usage of GVolume to GMount
[21:24] <kenvandine> so i guess my testing of the indicator plugin for xchat had gotten the launcher in a bad state
[21:24] <DJKorbit> to be able to check if it's mounted before adding it to the launcher
[21:24] <DBO> DJKorbit, why?
[21:24] <DBO> cant you check if a GVolume is mounted?
[21:25] <kenvandine> the vala example does work if i run it before i start messing with xchat-gnome-indicator
[21:25] <DBO> kenvandine, there is no state...
[21:25] <DBO> let me double check
[21:25] <DJKorbit> DBO, i've just double checked, i have to use the get_mount function on the GVolume, to get a GMount and check if it's mounted
[21:25] <DJKorbit> i'll try that now to see if it works
[21:26] <kenvandine> DBO, how does it handle multiple references to the LauncherEntry?
[21:26] <DBO> last person to tell it what to do gets it
[21:27] <DBO> its kinda nasty like that
[21:27] <DBO> because in his wisdom
[21:27] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine, do you have to close your xchat-gnome for the launcher to start behaving incorrectly?
[21:27] <DBO> kamstrup gave me no way to track if a remote person falls of the bus
[21:29] <kenvandine> so if i get the LauncherEntry then quit, start again and get the LauncherEntry
[21:29] <kenvandine> what happens?
[21:30] <DBO> kenvandine, the local state and remote state dont stay synced
[21:30] <DBO> again... this is why I am slightly annoyed with kamstrup
[21:30] <kenvandine> ok, so if those get out of whack i am kind of hosed right?
[21:30] <DBO> no just set it and you are on your merry way
[21:30] <DBO> unless he rate limited it
[21:30] <DBO> erm
[21:31] <DBO> you know what I mean
[21:31] <kenvandine> ok
[21:34] <DJKorbit> DBO, just compiled and installed my new code
[21:34] <DBO> DJKorbit, yeah?
[21:34] <DJKorbit> DBO, going to restart unity, cross your fingers
[21:34] <DBO> crossed
[21:35] <DJKorbit> damn, icons still there
[21:35] <DBO> :P
[21:35] <DBO> kenvandine, DJKorbit, brb
[21:35] <DBO> kenvandine, get me a well defined test case if you can
[21:35] <DJKorbit> which means that something is not right because the code should not be running
[21:35] <DBO> kenvandine, and I will try my best to solve it
[21:36] <DBO> DJKorbit, probably running the wrong Unity plugin
[21:36] <DBO> poke kenvandine about that, hes an expert on solving those problems
[21:36] <DJKorbit> DBO, ok
[21:36] <DJKorbit> kenvandine, can you save me?
[21:38] <DBO> kenvandine, I have a theory
[21:38] <DBO> maybe it works on initial export but not something in a callback
[21:38] <DBO> we can easily test that
[21:38] <DBO> kenvandine, can you make the example code first create the object, but not set any properties for 5 seconds
[21:38] <DBO> then see if it still works right
[21:39] <DBO> kenvandine, I am going to step out really quick for a shower
[21:39] <DBO> I'll be right back
[21:58] <DBO> ping kenvandine?
[22:01] <DJKorbit> DBO, i'll try to follow the INSTALL instructions because i'm sure that something is wrong
[22:02] <DJKorbit> i change the code but nothing happens
[22:02] <DBO> okay
[22:03] <DJKorbit> DBO, i'm cloning compiz-with-glib-mainloop and i'll compile/install it now
[22:03] <DBO> DJKorbit, okay
[22:03] <DBO> Im sorry this is a bit of a pain to make work
[22:03] <DJKorbit> indeed!
[22:03] <DJKorbit> but i'll survive
[22:05] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine could have left for today
[22:06] <DBO> bcurtiswx, its not like him to leave without mentioning it...
[22:07] <bcurtiswx> DBO, :( he does that to me all the time.... :P
[22:20] <DBO> kenvandine, I think I found your bug
[22:20] <DBO> working it out
[22:37] <DBO> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH FOUND IT
[22:38] <DJKorbit> DBO, what bug?
[22:38] <DBO> libunity not sending updates
[22:38] <DJKorbit> i'm not familiar with that bug
[22:39] <DBO> kenvandine, i fixed it
[22:39] <DBO> it was mikkels bug
[22:39] <DBO> hell yeah
[22:39] <DBO> I fixed a mikkel bug
[22:39] <DBO> thats like a once in a lifetime thing
[22:39] <DJKorbit> LOL
[22:39] <DBO> do not think I am joking
[22:40] <DJKorbit> i don't know who mikkel is
[22:43] <DBO> mikkel is a man who codes no bugs
[22:43] <DBO> I think hes a robot
[22:44] <DBO> the myth might be bigger than the man
[22:44] <DBO> but to be honest
[22:44] <DBO> he is an excellent coder
[22:44] <DBO> very rarely do you catch him make a mistake
[22:48] <cando_> DJKorbit, if you want to meet the myth...kamstrup is the name you're searching for..
[22:48] <DJKorbit> :)
[22:59] <bcurtiswx> is main slow or what today
[22:59] <DBO> what now?
[22:59] <bcurtiswx> haha, nothing.. unity's been published for 2 hours now.. still can't apt-get it and im using Main Server
[23:00] <DBO> ah
[23:00] <DBO> main server
[23:00] <DBO> got it
[23:01] <bcurtiswx> oh, what else would main be?
[23:02] <DBO> some people refer to that as trunk
[23:02] <bcurtiswx> hmm, learned something new :)
[23:03] <DBO> erm
[23:03] <bcurtiswx> place-applications and place-files.. do we need that anymore?
[23:03] <DBO> sorry I meant that the other way around
[23:03] <DBO> some people refer to trunk as "main"
[23:03] <DBO> yes
[23:03] <bcurtiswx> well, either way.. i've still learned something new :)
[23:04] <bcurtiswx> hmm, i have all updates now, but it wants to remove those
[23:21] <DJKorbit> DBO, i've compiled everything, going to test my code again
[23:21] <DBO> DJKorbit, sounds good
[23:22] <DJKorbit> i'll do a printf if a volume is skipped for not being mounted, just for debug purposes
[23:22] <DBO> DJKorbit, sounds smart :)
[23:22] <bcurtiswx> DBO, does unity provide unity-places-applications/files ?
[23:22] <DBO> we do a lot of printf debugging on compiz
[23:23] <DBO> bcurtiswx, not if you dont have the daemons running
[23:23] <DBO> bcurtiswx, places are external daemons that talk to the window manager via dbus
[23:23] <bcurtiswx> DBO, so apt wanting to remove unity-places-* is correct? sorry im confused
[23:24] <DBO> uhm
[23:24] <DBO> probably not
[23:24] <DBO> why does it want to remove them?
[23:25] <bcurtiswx> DBO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/565606/
[23:26] <bcurtiswx> bcurtis@wx:~$ aptitude why-not unity-place-files   Unable to find a reason to remove unity-place-files.
[23:26] <DBO> bcurtiswx, do the keep-all thing
[23:26] <DJKorbit> DBO, nothing is working now
[23:26] <DJKorbit> i can't even run unity
[23:26] <bcurtiswx> keep-all?
[23:26] <DBO> sudo aptitude keepall
[23:27] <DBO> or keep-all
[23:27] <DBO> something like that
[23:27] <DJKorbit> i did a compiz --replace &
[23:27] <DBO> DJKorbit, :/
[23:27] <DJKorbit> follows by a ccsm to enable unity
[23:27] <DJKorbit> unity was already enabled, i tried disabling it and enabling it again but nothing happens
[23:27] <bcurtiswx> DBO: keep-all did nothing
[23:27] <DBO> bcurtiswx, let it remove them then reinstall them
[23:28] <bcurtiswx> OK
[23:28] <DJKorbit> why is it so difficult to test one line of code?
[23:29] <DBO> DJKorbit, erm :)
[23:29] <DJKorbit> i'm sad, i want to code, but i can't
[23:29] <DBO> DJKorbit, I understand
[23:30] <DBO> I'll see if I cant come up with a standard script for doing this kind of testing
[23:30] <bcurtiswx> DBO: unity-place-files : Depends: libunity3 (< 3.2.16) but 3.4.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[23:30] <bcurtiswx> when trying to reinstall
[23:30] <DJKorbit> i'm getting a "unity-panel-service: no process found" error
[23:31] <DJKorbit> what might have gone wrong?
[23:31] <DBO> DJKorbit, the plugin is trying to find unity-panel-service, which is a binary to display menus for unity
[23:31] <DBO> DJKorbit, it cant find it
[23:32] <DBO> DJKorbit, it would be looking where you set the install prefix to be
[23:32] <DJKorbit> i installed everything to /opt/unity
[23:33] <DJKorbit> i'm going to bed, another day without being able to test just a printf inside unity's code :(
[23:33] <DBO> :(
[23:35] <DJKorbit> i'll unassign myself from the bugs because i can't produce a single line of code
[23:35] <DJKorbit> i can produce it, but i can't test it
[23:36] <DBO> DJKorbit, thats reasonable
[23:41] <DJKorbit> DBO, tomorrow i'll try again to work on the code
[23:41] <DJKorbit> i mean, trying to start my compiled version of unity
[23:42] <DBO> I'll see if I cant get someone to help you figure out how to install your local copy
[23:42] <DJKorbit> thanks very much
[23:42] <DJKorbit> see you tomorrow, time to sleep
[23:42] <DBO> cheers