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pedahzurHave a weird problem here. KDE 4.6 on Kubuntu 10.10. My user can log in just fine via KDM, but another user gets the "red field." Using the same password, I can su to that user at the prompt, but that user cannot log in via KDM. I had this problem with KDE 4.5 as well, but it went away (until now) when I upgraded to 4.6. Ideas? And to add to the wierdness: it started working on its own.  STRANGE.00:18
chris_sfPlease help , I can't load KDE after KDE update from the backport repo !00:27
james147chris_sf: make sure kubuntu-desktop is intalled and run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"00:29
chris_sfbut I don't want to upgrade my distibution . I want the keep the LTS 10.04 version. What I did was to install kdevelop  from the backport repo and than when doing a regular update, it update KDE !! now the screen is black, how can I revert it to the original KDE (the one on Lucid) or install the new one properly but keeping the 10.04 LTS version. Thx so much for any help00:33
james147chris_sf: dist-upgrade only upgrades packages00:34
james147chris_sf: it wont upgrade you to 10.10 unless you enable the 10.10 repors in /etc/apt/sources.list00:35
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chris_sfThx so much james, it works , now I think it is scary because all what I wanted was to install kdevelop and tutorial showed it using the backport repo. Correct me if I am wrong but since the new KDE was also in the backport , it tried to update itself !? actually each I'll do a apt-get upgrade he will try to replace the lucid package whith the one in the backup repo ! Is that correct. how  can I select the backport to only install a package (ie00:55
chris_sf kedevelop) . what is the best practice of using the backpot repo if you don't want to install what's in there ?   Also what happened in my case  ! sorry for all those questions !! ;-)00:55
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gancienthi all, are people still facing problems while upgrading to kde 4.6 in kubuntu ?02:42
gancienti was planning to upgrade but found this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/70815102:42
ubottuUbuntu bug 708151 in Kubuntu PPA "can't log in to KDE after upgrading to 4.6" [Undecided,Incomplete]02:42
gancientthis made me reconsider :( my upgrade plans02:42
rosco_yI'm trying to learn how to read RSS feeds.  I added the "RSSNOW" desktop widget, and I've subscribed to a feed, and I can see it is populated -- how do I actually read the feeds?03:05
gancientrosco_y: the feeds will show up on the widget. what is the refresh time you have set in the settings of the widget ?03:10
ravelim trying to figure out what program i need to install to get the application hardware drivers03:37
Mase_wkrosco_y: akregator is also a really good feed reader03:46
Mase_wkravel: application ? which device is it ?03:46
Mase_wkusually drivers are bundled with the kernel03:46
raveli figured it out mase_wk its jockey-gtk03:47
ravel:)03:47
Mase_wkah you mean for binary drivers...jockey-kde will give the kde version03:48
ravelawe sweet ass03:49
ravelthanks mase_wk03:49
FloridaGuydoes kubuntu have a gui to kill system process other then system monitor04:00
ZenGuycan dolphin show gif animations in preview mode?04:00
FloridaGuyput a gif in preview mode and find out04:01
ZenGuycan you try for me please.. i'm curremtly using a openbox and gnome desktop?04:02
FloridaGuyif i had a gif i would04:03
FloridaGuypoint me to one04:03
ZenGuywget http://www.gifbin.com/bin/022011/1297259678_escalator-hanging-fail.gif04:04
ZenGuyif the thumbnail shows animation that would be awesome04:05
FloridaGuyZenGuy: shows in preview...butt no animation04:09
ZenGuyok04:10
ZenGuyi'll submit a brainstorm feature request tommorow04:10
ravelhey its me again i installed jockey-kde and it finds my ati/amd driver but when i goto activate it, the program jockey downloads the driver but doesnt activate my ati/amd driver? just goes grey04:27
ravelany ideas on how to fix this04:27
CorinIs there any way to set it so all windows sizes are forced and unchangeable?05:14
CorinI mean, other than manually forcing all windows sizes.05:14
weecolhello05:28
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skidzoHi there, I tried to install a proprietary software (bitrock install binary) on kubuntu10.1008:47
skidzonow the problem is, that the /usr/lib/gio is found08:49
skidzoand as I installed 64 bit version, and the proprietary software uses 32 bit i get errors saying that tehere is a wrong ELF CLASS 6408:50
skidzonow i looked in a centOS 5.2 and there is no such library as /usr/lib/gio/modules/08:51
skidzoand even in a debian there is no such directory08:52
skidzoand the fact is the proprietary software installs just fine on CentOS an Debian08:52
skidzoso what package needs that /usr/lib/gio/modules and why is there a problem when installing a 32bit binary which actually just should copy some binarys...08:55
skidzoi am totally clueless about this08:55
valorie!find  /usr/lib/gio/modules08:59
ubottuFile /usr/lib/gio/modules found in bamf-dbg, bamfdaemon, gvfs, ia32-libs, libdconf-dbg, libdconf0, libfm0, libfm0-dbg, libgio-fam, libzeitgeist-1.0-0-dbg (and 2 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=/usr/lib/gio/modules&mode=&suite=maverick&arch=any08:59
valoriedoes that help at all, skidzo?09:00
skidzoa little09:03
skidzois this installed by default09:05
skidzo?09:05
valoriehmmm, I don't know how to check that09:05
skidzoi get an error about libgiofam.so and libdconf.so09:06
skidzosaying that they are of the wrong elf CLASS 6409:06
valorieand did google give you anything useful about that error message?09:07
skidzoia32-libs is also installed09:07
skidzono09:07
skidzoit was mainly other people also installing proprietary software09:07
valorieyou need someone much more clueful than me, I'm afraid09:08
skidzoi know the gio is the gnome io09:08
skidzono it's okay, help actually a lot09:08
skidzothanks so far!!09:09
franzmaximilianHello. I am facing a severe problem with my Kubuntu 10.10 (running since months without problems)  Today it boots into an installation procedure that hangs at the choice of language09:13
franzmaximilianI am now running Kubuntu from CD09:14
franzmaximilian but i desperately need to be back to my normal HD boot09:14
franzmaximilian  I don-t know what and where to check:  grub?  boot scripts?     Please help!!!09:16
franzmaximilian 238 users on this channel and none can help in any way?09:18
valoriedid you do some recent updates?09:18
valorienew software?09:18
valoriesorry, not many people awake at this point of the day09:18
franzmaximilianno new softare, just the regular updates from official repositories09:18
amichairfranzmaximilian: can you get a screenshot, photo, or good description of the screen you arrive at?09:19
franzmaximilianwhich i do more or less daily09:19
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franzmaximilianamichair boot seems to start normally, then for a couple of seconds i see a login screen09:20
franzmaximiliani mean command lina with black bacground09:20
franzmaximilian then it turns into a text based installation09:21
franzmaximiliannot graphic09:21
amichairfranzmaximilian: the kubuntu installation? the boot menu like in the liveCD?09:21
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franzmaximilianyes, but not a graphic install, just an old fashioned text input menu in a few colors09:22
franzmaximilianthis is the language choice menu09:22
franzmaximilianpreset choice is english, but if try to move around it goes to albanese09:23
franzmaximilian and doesnt let me move but between alabnese and bulgarian09:24
franzmaximilian it does not accept an ENTER command09:24
franzmaximilian it does nothing there09:24
franzmaximilian only choice is  CTRL ALT CANC   or hard switch off09:25
mokushyou guys, how can I get flash into 10.10 64? do I need to run the flashplugin-installer?09:25
franzmaximilianI checked that there are no forgotten usb pens on the computer or anything else09:25
amichairmokush: install flashplugin-installer09:25
franzmaximilian it boots as expected from a live CD and i can access the HD09:26
franzmaximilianthis is all I can say09:26
amichairfranzmaximilian: strange, I never encountered anything like this09:26
mokushamichair: I've installed the package, but the actual plugin didn't install09:26
franzmaximilianme neither... i-m just a user amichair, but since mamy years   first time i see anything like this09:27
amichairmokush: installing the package is all that should be necessary, at least for FireFox and Chrome (but probably others too)09:27
franzmaximilianand of course it happens the day i have urgent tasks to do....  according to Murphy-s law09:27
amichairfranzmaximilian: do you have any choice in the grub menu, older kernels and such?09:28
mokushamichair: I've just removed and reinstalled the plugin, and it got it's act toghether. thanks09:29
amichairmokush: you might need to restart the browser though09:29
amichairmokush: oh great :-)09:29
franzmaximiliani do not see a grub menu at start amichair. i have only kubunto, no Windows or other OS09:29
amichairfranzmaximilian: no previous kubuntu kernel versions? (there's some key u can press to get the grub menu, not sure if nowadays it's escape or left shift or something else)09:30
franzmaximilianyes, i must have some older kernels09:30
franzmaximilianso let-s ask if anyone knows which is the key to press to get the grub menu09:31
franzmaximiliananyone knows_09:31
franzmaximilian?09:31
franzmaximiliansorry... wrong keyb layout... i forgot to set it when booting from CD09:32
amichairfranzmaximilian: I think in grub2 you hold down the shift key while booting to get to the menu09:32
franzmaximilianok, i will have a try09:33
franzmaximilian thank you for suggestion09:33
franzmaximiliani will come back if it does not work09:33
franzmaximilianpray for me........09:34
skidzofingers crossed09:34
franzmaximilian:)   bye09:34
skidzohi again09:43
skidzoso anyone knows if the /usr/lib/gio/ is in kubuntu10.10 by default09:44
skidzoor does it only exist because some packages where installed afterwards?09:44
skidzoi figured out already that in debian an in RHEL there is no such directory09:45
apokorwnashello anyone from greece?09:48
apokorwnasanyone who watch the chat?09:50
iulian_skidzo: try sudo dpkg -i - -force-architecture yourpackagename09:52
skidzosorry forgot to say it's proprietary09:52
skidzotried the linux32 command an tried installing 32 bit libs09:53
skidzobut the issue is that some process running at installtime might mess up the installation09:54
skidzoit did an strace of the install process but i only got some information which is worthless09:57
skidzoi do know that I need some opengl library's09:58
skidzolike libXm.so libGL.so libGLU.so09:58
skidzoall in 32 bit09:59
skidzoi know that one of the packages is libmotif310:01
franzmaximilianhello amichair    My computer booted normally at the end.... but i don't know how!  and i simply hate this10:18
amichairfranzmaximilian: I suppose you can hate it less than when it doesn't work and you don't know why ;-)10:18
franzmaximilianlol   true10:19
franzmaximiliananyway... i wonder why i cannot find a /boot/grub/menu.lst file in my installation10:19
amichairfranzmaximilian: just as an off-thought, perhaps you can run an fsck and/or memtest at some conveient time in the near future... just to rule out random hardware errors. It never hurts.10:20
franzmaximilianyes, good Idea amichair .  do I run fsck from a cd?  I f i remember well it cannot be run on an active hd10:21
amichairfranzmaximilian: I think menu.lst no longer exists in grub2, at least by default. now there's a grub.conf somewhere, and a utility to apply it... don't remember the details10:21
franzmaximilianamichair, I will check for this10:23
rajvii have a problemhelpthis newbie10:23
rajvikubntu 10.10 on a dell mini10 netbook10:24
rajvican i get some gidance10:25
rajvii m from a place where nobody has about open source10:25
amichair!ask | rajvi10:26
ubotturajvi: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)10:26
rajvithank u  ubottu10:26
rajvimy power devil is messed up on AC but my visual effects disabled10:27
amichairfranzmaximilian: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 looks like it might be useful10:28
amichairrajvi: you can configure these in System Settings -> Power Management -> Edit Profiles10:29
rajviyes u r right10:30
rajvibut i disable d power devil n i checked all settings still its the same10:30
rajvii have checked some logs power devil is not recognising thet it turned off n i m on AC!!10:31
rajvii m 100% sure my power devil died10:32
amichairrajvi: sorry, I don't know much more about power devil... maybe someone else here will be able to help. Also, you should check that there's no known issues with your particular hardware (in launchpad bug reports, that is)10:33
rajviok thanks can i give u somemore input10:34
rajvithanks amichair10:34
rajvipower devil messed up  help10:39
rajviplease help10:40
mtui've upgraded from lucid to maverick and now my widget dashboard is empty. the "add widget..." dialog still shows my applets as active, though. where are they?10:40
mokushwhoever recompiled them intel gma drivers deserves a grand prize.10:41
rajvii don't think  anybody can help me10:46
rajvican anybody answer my questions10:50
mokushrajvi: what's the qustion?10:50
BajKwhere do I get "qmake" ?10:50
BajKcmake .. fails and says it cannot find "qt qmake"10:51
rajvipower devil not working10:51
rajvion ac but no visual effects10:51
mokushrajvi: did you enable them? did they work before?10:51
rajvipower devil has disabled my effects10:51
rajviyup10:52
rajvibut only if ilogg out i get my effects10:52
rajvinow powerbdevil off10:52
rajvibut same issue checked all settings10:52
rajvichecked logg power devil on regonising dat i m on ac10:53
rajvii know power devil is  the culprit10:54
mokushyou guys know a way to install thunderbird 3.3alpha in kubuntu?11:45
LogicallyDashingCtrl+Alt+V opens Klipper's menu of previous clipboards. I don't want it to do that. I went into Global Keyboard Shortcuts and selected Klipper, expecting I should be able to change the shortcut there, but this shortcut is not there. Where do I change it?12:10
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Noobhi12:20
Noobwhat is the name of your graphic package manager?12:20
Noobi'm on debian testing KDE4 and i don't know what graphic package manager can i use12:21
b_gholamaliIn kubuntu I use "Software Management" in System setting12:26
Noobi'm on Debian testing KDE412:28
yofelNoob: I'm not sure, but testing should use kpackagekit too12:28
yofelyou should rather ask in a debian channel..12:28
Noobok thanks yofel12:29
b_gholamalianyway your package manager should be in system setting12:29
yofelthat's true too12:30
rohdefdo I need to make some specific setups to be able to send files from my phone to my computer using bluetooth?13:02
BluesKajHey all13:20
phoenix_firebrdhello everyone13:47
phoenix_firebrdi have installed adobe flash player 10.2 , now chromium browser is getting crashed . how can i fix it?13:48
phoenix_firebrdsmall correction13:49
phoenix_firebrdflash plugin crashes in chromium browser13:49
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, have you updated/upgraded lately13:52
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: ya13:53
BluesKajthere was an upgrade to flashplugin installer a day or 2 ago13:55
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: this is the error message i am getting "[14020:14020:89764634949:FATAL:base/process_util_linux.cc(594)] Out of memory"13:55
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, which graphics card ?13:57
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: nvidia 9400gt13:57
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, dunno what that is unless you ram is somehow corrupted or broken14:02
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, run glxgears full screen , see if it crashes14:05
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: i checked with rekonq, it can play the youtube videos. when i rightclick on the video. rekonq crashes14:05
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: i check my memory. 70% of my memory is free14:06
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: 70% free in total14:07
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: 12 % free in physical14:07
BluesKajtry removong flashplugin installer , rebot and try the youtube without reinstalling14:10
danifunkerhi everyone, i'm having a problem with KDM and XDMCP on Ubuntu 10.10, I can't seem to connect to it, I have already adjusted my Xauthority (added * to add all hosts to connect) and kdmrc (enable XDMCP). What am I missing?14:11
BluesKajdanifunker, but maybe xdm might help as a Xserver manager14:19
danifunkerhmm I guess I'll go ahead and install that then.14:19
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alvindanifunker: Probably DNS stuff. Can you give us more information? What do you expect to work that doesn't?14:41
k0sHi!14:49
k0sHi14:50
k0sHI14:50
genii-around!hi14:50
k0sPlease help me!14:51
Riddell!ask14:51
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)14:51
k0sI just started using linux and I need to reinstall Virtualbox. I do not know how to do it. (((14:53
k0sAnd another question - does anyone speak Russian?14:54
BluesKaj!ru | k0s14:54
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falangaHelllo peoplee15:31
falanga:D15:31
danifunkeralvin: sorry, i lost connectivity, I don't think it's DNS, since I'm not using DNS to connect to the server.15:35
alvindanifunker: np. Let me see what I can dig up about my own XDMCP experience.15:36
alvinYou changed /et/kde4/kdm/kdmrc and /etc/kde4/kdm/Xaccess?15:37
rorkHello falanga15:37
danifunkeralvin: yessir, I did that a while ago15:38
alvindanifunker: Checked bug 8602115:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 86021 in libxdmcp (Ubuntu) "XDMCP does not work without reverse dns" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8602115:38
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alvinSo, change 127.0.1.1 localhost to '127.0.0.1 <hostname-of-xdmcp-server>'15:40
danifunkermy client is Windows, not ubuntu15:40
danifunkerI'm using Xming to connect.15:40
alvindanifunker: No problem. I meant the /etc/hosts file of your Kubuntu15:40
danifunkerinteresting, it's already in there15:41
alvinGood. 127.0.1.1 should not be localhost when in a network15:41
danifunkerso just remove it?15:41
alvinWait15:41
falangahow are you15:41
alvinI'm checking for it15:41
danifunkerokay. thanks15:41
danifunkerI've never heard of 127.0.1.1 before15:42
alvindanifunker: Comment it out, and add your real IP there with the hostname (e.g. 10.0.0.50 xdmcpserver)15:42
falangawhere are you from15:42
danifunkerok i made the changes, restartign now15:43
alvingood luck15:43
danifunkerthanks, well I'll stay on here, again windows is my client ;)15:43
alvinI have never used Xming, but it should work. Be glad you're not using Ubuntu as a client.15:44
danifunkershould I create reverse dns entries on my DNS servers?15:44
danifunkerI'm just trying to set this thing up as a test box15:44
alvinYou can't always do that. (I can't here). It's not necessary15:45
danifunkerokay cool. Fortunately I am a master of my own domain15:45
danifunkerwoot I even have a fancy whois name on my ipv6 network ;)15:45
alvinputting the ip in /etc/hosts should help.15:45
danifunkerok it looks started15:45
danifunkeralvin: trying to connect now one second15:46
danifunkerhmm, so far I'm getting the same results.15:46
falangafellas15:47
falangawhere are you from15:47
alvinbah. I thought it would be enough. It worksforme. Let's see..15:47
alvinfalanga: the internet15:47
danifunkeri'm from Canada, where are you from falanga?15:47
falanga:D15:47
falangahaha15:47
falangaMacedonia15:47
alvindanifunker: What version of Kubuntu? There's bug 40841715:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 408417 in gdm "XDMCP server not working in Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40841715:48
danifunkerI'm using the most current version15:48
danifunkerof everything15:48
danifunkerI just installed on monday, and did an update before installing kde15:48
alvinI haven't tried XDMCP on Maverick yet15:48
danifunkerthat looked like a gdm bug, not kdm bug15:48
alvinCanonical doesn't really care about XDMCP. It wouldn't suprise me if they broke it. Kubuntu has the possibility in kdm, but gdm losst it years ago.15:49
alvinYes, that bug was originally about the missing option in gdm, but people added more problems over the years15:49
lithprhi all.  I heard a podcast where they talked about kde 4.6, and i was intrigued.  I downloaded kubuntu-desktop from the backports.  The problem i have now is that in either session, i have all the apps from gnome/kde on both menus.  Is there a way i can isolate the two environments short of dual-booting?15:50
lithprI can't be the first person who has wanted to do this :)15:51
alvinlithpr: I do not know of such a method15:51
danifunkerhmm, I wanted to try switching to a different xdmcp manager. How do I switch it?15:52
alvinnot kdm?15:52
danifunkeryeah like xdm15:52
danifunkerproblem is, i already installed xdm and don't have an option to switch15:52
alvinOh, but there is. I forgot the command... Shouldn't it be $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm ?15:53
danifunkersweet! thanks15:55
alvindanifunker: hmm. Maybe we're using ipv6 only without really knowing it... On your server, what is the output of: $ sudo netstat -atnup | grep 17715:55
danifunkerI checked that already15:55
danifunkerI ended up changing it15:56
alvinHere it's ipv6 only... Must have been that way for the past year15:56
alvinAnd I never knew15:56
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danifunkeryeah, I had to put in LISTEN 0.0.0.0 in one of my files15:57
danifunkerbut odddly, I do have ipv6 configured on my network ;)15:57
danifunkerxming doesn't support ipv6 addresses though, at least not the version I'm running15:58
danifunkermy output from that command: udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:177             0.0.0.0:*15:58
alvinIt might explain some stuff here... In what file did you have to change that?15:58
danifunkerXaccess15:59
alvinbtw, in /etc/kde4/kdm/Xaccess I have 2 lines (* ; * CHOOSER BROADCAST)15:59
danifunkeri have *, * CHOOSER BROADCAST and listen 0.0.0.0 that's what forces ipv416:00
danifunkeri don't need to do anything with xhost do I?16:00
alvinI don't think so16:00
alvinI'll change to ipv4 too, but not now. There's too many people logged on.16:01
danifunkerahh okay16:01
danifunkerI'd rather use ipv6, but xming :(16:01
danifunkereverything I have is on ipv6 now, even my site and email.16:01
alvinYes, you might want to try with a Kubuntu client. Just to know where to look16:02
alvincool, I still have to learn about that16:02
alvinISP's don't give addresses yet here16:02
danifunkeryeah, I have a tunneled route, where are you from?16:02
alvinBelgium (Flanders)16:02
falangahey foes16:04
falangacan you tell me16:04
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danifunkerI don't have a kubuntu client installed anywhere.16:04
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danifunkerI did see a whole bunch of "nolisten" in some parameters somewhere.16:05
alvindanifunker: Yes, that's for when you want to use X forwarding. (setenv DISPLAY etc,....) It's not needed to remove -nolisten tcp for XDMCP servers16:06
alvinBut you can try16:06
danifunkeralvin: it probably won't then. I never had this much problems XDMCP before...16:07
danifunkeris there a way to test udp connectivity16:07
alvinHmm, I have it removed apparently16:07
alvindanifunker: $ sudo nmap -sU -p177 <your-xdmcp-server>16:09
m_tadeuhi....after upgrading today the new flash player package, I'm unable to watch videos in youtube16:09
alvinnmap exists for Windows too16:09
alvinIt should say: 177/udp open  xdmcp16:10
falangaplease give me other Konversation channels16:17
falangaa?16:17
Pici!ot | falanga16:18
ubottufalanga: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!16:18
falanga#kubuntu-offtopic16:19
falangawhere can i find a list of channels?16:20
Peace-hi there16:30
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falangahi peace16:39
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danifunkeralvin: ok nmap reports the port as being open on both windows and linux16:41
danifunkerthis is so strange, what could be wrong?16:45
moshofoshoi left ubuntu about 2 years ago after using it quite a bit for about 4 years primarily because i was dissatisfied with how kde was handled (really buggy, prone to crashing) and how long it took to bootup (about 1 minute on a, at the time, brand-new laptop)16:48
moshofoshohave those things changed?16:49
falangayou are so bad16:49
falangadef16:49
moshofoshois kde stable to use? how long does bootup take?16:49
moshofoshoi am so bad?16:49
genii-arounddanifunker: gdm or kdm greeter? gdm has this bug... https://bugs.launchpad.net/gdm/+bug/40841716:50
ubottuUbuntu bug 408417 in gdm "XDMCP server not working in Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick)" [Medium,Confirmed]16:50
moshofoshoi'm asking because my current setup with archlinux may take up more time than i have to debug stuff, mostly due to nvidia's graphics drivers not working right on my system, and strangely enough, random filesystem attributes being set by packages16:50
danifunkergenii-around: I'm using kdm greeter.16:50
moshofoshoso i'm thinking if i am to transition to something else, might as well be something i was comfortable with for a while16:50
moshofoshoi know the developers of ubuntu are beyond willing to help. i once hogged up colin wilson's entire work day on just one bug of mine. he seemed really set on fixing it and it was sort of obscure... at least at the time16:51
moshofoshohow to get a custom ubuntu image setup using clonezilla on identical machines in a computer lab16:51
BluesKajmoshofosho, depends on your hardware but kde 5.1 is very stable and my pc boots in about 20 secs nowadays..there are some nvidia issues haowever they are mostly with the new 200 and 300 series16:53
moshofosho5.1? that's a typo right?16:53
BluesKajer kde 4.5.116:53
moshofoshookay16:53
moshofoshoyeah, that's what i have on my machine too right now. my desktop's graphics card is an nvidia 8300 gs... so not so cutting edge16:53
moshofoshobut not too old16:54
moshofoshoand it used to work fine with the 1xx series drivers (not hardware models!), but after 256 it seems like it's really unstable16:54
BluesKajmoshofosho, then you should be ok , mine's a 8400gs16:54
moshofoshosomeone online pointed out very insightfully that there seem to be two groups of people who use linux. 1 ) young people with time to spare in fiddling and tinkering with stuff and 2) older people who have to get work done and don't have the luxury of such time16:55
moshofoshoi'm slowly transitioning from 1) to 2) and though i'd love to tinker, i just don't have the time16:55
moshofoshoi used to have to fight with ubuntu to get stuff to work, but your experiences tell me i should give it a test run soon16:55
BluesKajmoshofosho, well, I'm retired , so I have lots of time in winter ;)16:57
moshofoshoi see16:57
BluesKajI installed 10.10 in 40 mins the other day , clean16:57
moshofoshoi never had a problem with installation. ubuntu seems to have that nailed down16:57
moshofoshoi hated how many useless services used to run and just waste precious resources... back then16:58
moshofoshonow i guess it wouldn't be as bad. computers are faster, though mine have been stuck in 2007-age technology for a while16:58
moshofoshoanyway, for someone who has a lot of work to do, i sure sound like a hypocrite16:58
moshofoshoback to work16:58
BluesKajand used the text-based alternate install on my 6 yr old pc , which took about an hr16:58
moshofoshothanks for your input BluesKaj16:58
BluesKajmoshofosho, np :)16:58
Peace-BluesKaj: :P17:00
SirgadoI'm about to upgrade KDE 4.4.5 to 4.5.3 using kubuntu backports repository... does anyone discourage that?17:49
remur_030Hi, we are trying to pin down an nvidia related bug on opensuse, is there a kde4.5 or higher user with nvidia driver 260.x and a 32bit system here by chance?17:56
Peace-Sirgado: mah...17:59
Peace-Sirgado: upgrading a stable distro it's always a roulette17:59
Peace-Sirgado: the most of times 99%18:00
Peace-you will get no problem18:00
Sirgado:D yeah18:00
Peace-but... i guess people upgrade system because they are annoyed18:00
Peace-Sirgado: wanna try another kde?18:00
Peace-try kubuntu natty alpha2 live cd18:00
Sirgadook, I know there're some risks, I just want to know if there's a big issue everybodoy knows except me :D18:00
Peace-Sirgado: big issue no18:01
Peace-if you have...18:01
Peace-Sirgado: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/10/31/try-to-fix-your-kubuntu-box-with-kernel-recovery/18:01
SirgadoI'll check that18:01
BluesKajX is abig issue on natty for some ppl , Peace-18:01
Peace-BluesKaj: well :9 infact live cd :)18:01
SirgadoI really want to use new activities systems (I've alreaduy tested kde 4.5)18:01
Peace-Sirgado: bah... activities..18:02
Peace-never used xD18:02
Sirgadowell', until 4 .5 I think they were not enoguht mature to be used18:02
Sirgadoenought18:02
* BluesKaj waits for official release18:02
Peace-BluesKaj: +118:03
Peace-BluesKaj: but i am crazy tester xD18:03
BluesKajkde 4.6 is fine so far tho18:03
SirgadoBluesKaj: nut I'm stuck in 10.04 (because php 5.3) and i think 4.5 will never get to 10.0418:03
BluesKajSirgado, running a server ?18:04
Sirgadoand plasma seems to be very polished in 4.518:04
SirgadoBluesKaj: just for developping in my desktop, server is a LTS18:04
Sirgadodrupal based developping18:04
BluesKajSirgado, IC18:05
Sirgadoa LTS server i mean, and don't wanna to install testing software ther ;-)18:05
BluesKajyup, understood :)18:05
Sirgadothanks for your comments folks!18:05
Peace-Sirgado: look this too18:08
Peace-Sirgado: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/reinstall-kde/18:08
Peace-if something goes bad18:08
Peace-xD18:09
Peace-99.99% nope18:09
Peace-but..18:09
Sirgadohey, that's a very good bonus !18:09
Sirgadothanks18:09
princedoes any one help me to install video chat on ubuntu18:18
Peace-prince: video chat?18:19
Peace-prince: on kubuntu you could install google talks on firefox18:20
Peace-or chromium ...18:20
Peace-prince: http://www.google.com/chat/video18:20
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princehiiiiiiii18:54
princeany one please tell me the process of installing compiz fusion on gnom18:55
Peace-prince: compiz on gnome?18:56
BluesKajprince, ask in #ubuntu18:56
Peace-prince: here is kubuntu18:56
princeok18:57
DarthFrogWe are KDE folks, not GNOME.18:57
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DarthFrogHmm, I just installed cairo-dock to have a look at it.  I like it. :-)  Does anyone know if there is a KDE version of something similar?19:00
DarthFrogNever mind, I figured it out. :-)   RTFM rules again.19:06
Peace-DarthFrog: daisy?19:07
Peace-kooldock doesn't get the kde4 version19:08
Peace-:(19:08
Peace-only kde3 version19:08
Carnage\Hey guys. I want to run an application in a separate Xorg-Server using a separate config and I want to do this as user (non-root). I had to configure /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config to allow this. If I now run `xinit <programm> -- :1 -config myxorg.conf` a separate XServer starts but just displays rubbish. The log says (among others) "(EE) Unable to locate/open config file: "myxorg.conf", however the file is located in the current working19:19
Carnage\directory.19:19
Carnage\If I give an absolute path, I get "19:19
Carnage\Invalid argument for -config19:19
Carnage\        For non-root users, the file specified with -config must be19:19
Carnage\        a relative path and must not contain any ".." elements.19:19
Carnage\        Using default xorg.conf search path.19:19
FloodBotK1Carnage\: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:19
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genii-aroundCarnage\: Is the myxorg.conf set +r ?19:21
Carnage\Yep19:22
Carnage\a+rw19:22
Carnage\a+rwx doesn't change anything either...19:24
genii-aroundCarnage\: In same error message set, do you see: (EE) Problem parsing the config file          ?19:26
genii-aroundApologies in advance for my lag, I am back and forth bewtween working19:27
Carnage\genii-around: No need to be sorry. :) No, there is no such error. There are a few more errors later than the one I mentioned, but they are based on the fact that the config is not found.19:30
Carnage\I solved it, the xorg.conf has to be located relative to the search path and not to the pwd...19:34
DarthFrogUrk!  Installing daisy will destroy my KDE desktop:19:34
DarthFrogThe following packages will be REMOVED:19:34
DarthFrog  kde-window-manager kdebase-workspace kdebase-workspace-bin kubuntu-desktop libkephal4a libplasmaclock4b libplasmagenericshell4 libtaskmanager4b plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop19:35
DarthFrog  plasma-netbook plasma-widgets-addons plasma-widgets-workspace19:35
FloodBotK1DarthFrog: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:35
genii-aroundCarnage\: Ah, good!19:37
BluesKajDarthFrog, UGH!19:43
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jackalope4863anyone here familiar with cpufrequtils?20:47
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jackalope4863i have two processors i dont know how to target the second one20:48
Peace-jackalope4863: mm20:55
barrapontois someone using vpn on kde 4.6?20:58
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blackmoon-105hi, my /usr/bin/X use a 80% of cpu  and slow all..21:22
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duaneanyone with kubuntu 10.10  kde 4.6  having troubles with kdm themes, getting a new theme does not work.21:28
duanetheme installs but not present in theme list to apply theme21:28
duanekde 4.5 had the same affects and would like to know if others experienced the same.21:30
ravelhello all: Im having a problem with my desktop pretty much is as follows, There is suppose to be a translucent widget that shows your home folders icons. I on the other hand do not have that widget can you please help me solve this problem? (Thank You in advanced)21:33
duaneravel, the widget is called "folder view"21:38
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ravelawesome thanks duane21:39
duanewelcome21:40
ravelyep thats what i was looking for your the new hero in my life :), just kidding but your help is appreciative. Have a nice day/night21:41
duane10/4 you to ravel21:41
Bauldricki've managed to remove firefox icon from kickoff application, and no matter if I 'purge' firefox and reinstall the icon doesn't return. I have to start via konsole, any ideas?22:16
sithlord48Bauldrick:  unlock widgets, and right click on the firefox entry and select "add to panel"22:17
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Bauldrickthere is no firefox entry sithlord48?22:19
sithlord48im you menu ?22:19
sithlord48have you installed firefox again?22:19
sithlord48(sorry i read that wrong you did say kickoff)22:19
Bauldrickyes, but can only start it via konsole22:19
sithlord48you can add it again using the menu editor...22:20
sithlord48do you know how to do that ?22:20
Bauldricknope, run me through?22:20
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