[01:07] <Adys> my cursor seems to be disappearing regularly since a couple of days, any idea why? (using kdm+nouveau)
[01:08] <Adys> it still works, its just invisible
[02:06] <FloridaGuy> trying to go from 10.10 to 11.04....update-manager -d is screwed up are something.....type in my root password..keeps saying..invaild password
[02:07] <tzanger> ubuntu doesn't have a root password
[02:07] <FloridaGuy> root...sudo password..samething
[02:08] <FloridaGuy> root access
[02:08] <FloridaGuy> type in my password...update-manager -d...says invaild password
[02:08] <tzanger> hmm
[02:08] <tzanger> that is definitely unusual
[02:09] <FloridaGuy> i know..everything eles takes it
[02:10] <FloridaGuy> wasent there another way from cli that upgrades
[02:11] <FloridaGuy> i know there is update-manager -d...and something eles
[02:12] <rww> do-release-upgrade -d
[02:17] <FloridaGuy> do-release-upgrade -d works....update-manager-d dont...
[06:45] <alkisg> Hi, I tried dual booting Natty (with Evolution 2.32.2) and Lucid (with Evolution 2.28) with using my existing /home/alkisg
[06:45] <alkisg> Now I can see my emails on Natty, but not on Lucid.
[06:45] <alkisg> Has there been any file format change to Evolution? If so, how can I revert it?
[06:51] <susundberg> You might want to look at evolution changelog
[06:52] <susundberg> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+changelog
[06:54] <alkisg> Hmm that's the Ubuntu package changelog, maybe I should be looking the Evolution source changelog instead
[06:55] <alkisg> But if there's been such an incompatible format change, a warning (like it happended in 2.24) would be required...
[06:55] <susundberg> That shounds fair..
[06:56] <susundberg> Have you checked if console or .xsession-errors gets any funny prints?
[06:56] <alkisg> Yup, and no, nothing in console
[06:56] <susundberg> (and i assume you can access the mails with say 'cat' -- that is permissions are ok)
[06:56] <susundberg> check
[06:57] <alkisg> I'm using the same UID/GID and /home/alkisg in both Natty and Lucid
[06:57] <alkisg> So apart from the permissions, evolution even uses the same settings...
[06:59] <susundberg> Mayby you could install backport (testing version) to Lucid ?
[06:59] <susundberg> (Or yes, downgrade natty might be better idea)
[06:59] <alkisg> Is evolution 2.32 available in lucid-backports?
[07:00] <alkisg> I'd downgrade if I could see my mails... :D
[07:00] <alkisg> But I can't, with evolution 2.28...
[07:00] <susundberg> Ah yeah
[07:00] <susundberg> since that didnt see the mails
[07:00] <susundberg> sorry :)
[07:00] <susundberg> did you find anything from the changelog?
[07:00] <alkisg> Nah np. /me looks for the changelog...
[07:14] <alkisg> Ah. Running evolution 2.32 from the console, I do see some attempts to "migrate config data"
[07:15] <alkisg> Now if I could find how to undo that silent, world-breaking migration...
[07:19] <susundberg> ;)
[08:10] <zniavre_> good morning
[08:11] <zniavre_> does unity-2d is the "same" than unity (regular) ?
[08:21] <delt> uh... hello
[08:23] <delt> was pointed here by #ubuntu about this live-disc image ....... http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/natty-desktop-i386.iso
[08:23] <delt> 03:25 < ubottu> Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011 - Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1 - Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems.
[08:23] <delt> 03:26 < delt> oh thanks, NOW i know that.
[08:23] <delt> nm *sigh*
[08:28] <alkisg> Can I somehow prevent evolution from trying to move my ~/.evolution to ~/.config/evolution and to ~/.local/share/evolution?
[08:28] <alkisg> It breaks my Lucid / Natty dual boot...
[09:17] <twager> !nvidea
[09:19] <susundberg> !nvidia
[09:19] <susundberg> ?
[09:20] <twager> susundberg, Thanks...Poor spelling :-(
[09:20] <susundberg> ;)
[14:02] <manlymatt83> Hi folks.  While I realize 11.04 is unstable, what are people's experiences with it lately regarding stability?
[14:04] <rork> I'm using the kubuntu version with an ATI card, recently installed the alpha2. Couldn't install ATI drivers. I updated the day before yesterday and X broke, haven't looked into it yet.
[14:11] <bcurtiswx> im moving my .ssh and .gnupg folders to my natty partition and now when I try to bzr get it gives me a publickey error.. what am i doing wrong?
[15:15] <wmcinnis> hi
[15:51] <Pici> The problem with gnome-terminal being unresponsive that I talked about here the other day seems to be unrelated to g-t.  So, feel free to forget I mentioned it.
[16:28] <mphill> is anyone having issues with natty/compiz crashing, focus issues, unable to left click, etc?
[18:32] <zzillezz> hmm, i'm trying to install alpha2 from live session and I get an error from the installer telling my i don't have enough free space on my hard drive ...
[18:33] <zzillezz> when i do have enough space
[18:34] <charlie-tca> you need 4-6 GB
[18:34] <zzillezz> i have 190+ gb free on one partition (ext4) and 800+ gb free on another one
[18:35] <zzillezz> it's the second time i'm installing kubuntu 11.04 alpha2, on the same pc, and the first time went ok
[18:35] <charlie-tca> reboot and start over. Sometimes the thing mounts the drives and then won't use them
[18:36] <zzillezz> well, it went ok until i started messing with the graphics drivers :-)
[18:36] <charlie-tca> why would you mess with them on the live cd?
[18:37] <charlie-tca> it don't really like that... :-)
[18:37] <zzillezz> i didn't mess with them on the live cd, but when i first installed alpha2
[18:37] <zzillezz> alright, rebooting now, thanks for your help charlie-tca
[19:00] <zzillezz> alright, install worked :-)
[20:07] <Louis-DK_> Hi. I'm trying to upgrade an Ubuntu 11.04 using "sudo apt-get upgrade" Do you want to continue [Y/n]?  Extracting templates from packages: 100% Preconfiguring packages ... warning, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 15183 package 'ibus-pinyin-db-open-phrase':  error in Version string '1/lib/modules/2.6.38-2-generic/kernel/drivers/scsi/scsi_transport_fc.ko': invalid character in version number warning, in file '/var/lib/d
[20:19] <Pici> Louis-DK_: This is an existing 11.04 install, or are you upgrading to 11.04 from a prior release?
[20:23] <Louis-DK_> Pici: It is an existing 11.04 install, but it's fixed. Renamed /var/lib/dpkg/available-old to available
[21:48] <zonkers> when 11.04 is released, do you think there will be a gnome shell 2.3 for it?
[22:04] <carl0s-> Right, I know this new X.org stack is the cause of some issues, but is that the cause of the weird stuff that's been going on with my x64 igfx based thing for a few weeks now? It's pretty much unusable. It's like a window that should appear doesn't actually appear, but the window that I *can* see, which is usually my browser, or Ooo, well that's unresponsive to my mouse input in the top left quarter of the screen, and I t
[22:04] <carl0s-> hink it's because of this 'ghost' window that hasn't actually visibly appeared. Is this known? I'm about to give up and load up x86 10.10 (I've had enough of npviewer.bin crashes so x86 will do I think).
[22:20] <carl0s-> nice one, cheers
[22:25] <Adys> got some issue here since today's upgrade on kubuntu. Desktop is completely empty - I can't see open apps / windows / panels or anything, even if they're active. I killed kwin and now i can, but even using other window managers i get the same issue
[22:25] <m3ga> i'm running natty in a chroot under debian and i getting upgrade failures due to upstart. if i'm installing in a chroot, why do i need upstart? also can't remove upstart because that removes just about everything.
[22:38] <Adys> okay, rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasm* fixed it
[23:10] <lamalex> does anyone know where I can find previous version of debs?
[23:10] <lamalex> i need to downgrade X
[23:11] <lamalex> (i know a huge pita)
[23:22] <gpc> lamalex: you may still have them in /cache/apt/archives
[23:22] <lamalex> gpc, i do not :(
[23:23] <lamalex> i dont know where they went
[23:23] <lamalex> but they're not there