[00:20] can someone confirm this for me? [00:20] to change your wireless mode to "monitor" mode [00:20] you type iwconfig [card] mode monitor === collin is now known as collinp [02:00] does anyone here use guake? [02:03] when i open terminal [02:03] madsailor: hey there [02:03] the transparency effect doesn't work [02:03] anyone knows how to fix that? [02:07] terminal's transparent background doesn't work anymore anyone knows how to fix that? [02:07] halpbatman: try `compiz --replace' [02:07] halpbatman: using alt + f2 [02:08] !transparent [02:08] Factoid 'transparent' not found [02:08] !compiz [02:08] Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz [02:08] seidos: dude, I've got a nasty sickness / back issue. Mind helping halpbatman? [02:08] seidos: I'll owe you one! [02:08] paultag: thx it worked! [02:08] Oh, well shit [02:08] paultag: i'll try [02:08] all good then [02:08] hey gunndawg. How's the site going? [02:08] halpbatman: rock on, thanks for using ubuntu :) [02:09] madsailor: good I'll show ya a screenshot [02:09] paultag: :DDD [02:09] one more lol [02:09] guake won't work [02:09] has it happened to anyone? [02:09] madsailor: http://min.us/mveQzlc [02:09] madsailor: I wanted to keep it clean, simple and basic [02:10] halpbatman: try starting it again. my guess is it needed compiz to be running [02:10] madsailor: I might change it up some, not sure [02:10] paultag: i did after i rand compiz --replace [02:10] ah, interesting [02:10] paultag: but no dice [02:10] halpbatman: I'm not sure. Might want to ask in #ubuntu, I've never used guake [02:11] just tilde :) [02:11] !info guake [02:11] * paultag pokes ubot2 [02:11] !info [02:11] damn bot takes his damn time [02:11] * paultag pokes ubot2 [02:11] lazy bum [02:11] gunndawg, I like the font you used. and I wonder if 'blog' is a package...would be funny if it is [02:12] !info guake natty [02:12] frig'n [02:12] madsailor: lol I thought it was clever to use sudo apt-get then the name of whatever section they are viewing on the page show up [02:13] Hey paultag! Last version is 0.4.2-4ubuntu1, released nine weeks ago [02:13] Thanks, paultag! You sure are useful! [02:13] * paultag kicks ubot2 [02:13] halpbatman: not sure, man. Might ask in #ubuntu [02:13] *yawn* [02:13] Never sleep directly coming home after school. [02:13] JackyAlcine: bullshit, best naps ever [02:13] JackyAlcine: I did that today -- twice [02:14] Lol but the scrollbacks are sooo long! [02:14] I don't even wanna read them! [02:14] JackyAlcine: just store pings :) [02:14] paultag: k thx [02:14] JackyAlcine: or grep for JackyAlcine in your logs, there's no reason to look through it all [02:14] halpbatman: np, cheerio! [02:14] Hm, what about context? [02:15] gunndawg, yeah, I like the Idea. [02:15] JackyAlcine: you can pull line numbers with grep, you can look at lines around your pngs [02:15] JackyAlcine: there's a lot of static [02:15] Grep's God's golden token! [02:16] I'd have to look it up but I think G/re/p is a bum syntax [02:16] madsailor: thx [02:16] ah, no [02:16] it's from ed [02:16] * paultag mans ed [02:17] oh damn my leg [02:17] BRB [02:18] grep just allows you to return data matching a regex pattern... right? [02:21] How to solve "BOOTMGR missing" problem using Live CD? [02:23] ubuntuser: do you get a prompt? [02:23] * seidos puts a splint on paultag's leg [02:23] paultag = batman [02:24] seidos: no. jsut that and "press clt+alt+del" to restart [02:24] paultag: so hey.. i restarted the comp. and the same thing happened so i had to restard compliz again [02:24] ubuntuser: hmmm [02:24] halpbatman_: compiz? [02:24] seidos: yeah [02:25] seidos: so, how to fix it using livecd? [02:25] why do i have to keep restarting compiz? [02:25] halpbatman_: we need to figure out how to make compiz --replace execute automatically on start up === halpbatman_ is now known as halpbatman [02:26] seidos: but it was working fine before [02:26] ubuntuser: ah, you are trying to use a livecd to repair an installation. try a web search "repair BOOTMGR missing ubuntu" on yahoo.com [02:26] halpbatman: what changed? [02:26] seidos: trying to figure out what happened so that I can reverse it [02:26] seidos: lol [02:27] seidos: i was playing around with network configuration [02:27] seidos: when it stopped working [02:27] halpbatman: network configuration shouldn't affect compiz. you could try purging the compiz package, and reinstalling it. [02:27] seidos: currently i am booting from live cd.. i had ubuntu 10.10 on sda5 and vista on sda1. after installing 7 on sda1 my ubuntu was corrupted and showing unallocated. so using testdisk i recovered ubuntu partition. now none is booting and the error. [02:28] seidos: so the cmd would be "sudo apt-get purge compiz" and then "sudo apt-get install compiz"? [02:28] halpbatman: how'd you know? :) [02:29] ubuntuser: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows [02:29] seidos: grasshopper lrnz [02:29] halpbatman: ^ 5 [02:30] seidos: is there any other pkg that is an alternative to compiz? [02:30] ubuntuser: you may want win 7 installed before installing ubuntu. i think that is preferred [02:31] seidos: how dare you recommend having windows installed! [02:31] halpbatman: not sure. why would you want another package? [02:31] seidos: yeah.. i figured that out after 7 did the mess.. with vista the grub recovery was simple.. [02:31] gunndawg: it's far from a recommendation ;) [02:31] seidos: dunno it keeps needing restart so i was wondering if i use a different pkg it might fix it [02:31] seidos: anyway, i can do it... i am ready to install 7 again ..no issue.. i want to save my ubuntu partition as it is.. [02:32] ubuntuser: try uninstalling windows and leaving it uninstalled, see if ur computer runs better [02:32] ;) [02:32] halpbatman: i wouldn't do that. just file a bug against the compiz package if we don't get it working [02:33] seidos: k gonna restart brb [02:33] gunndawg: supposed to be funny? [02:33] ubuntuser: yes [02:33] ubuntuser: what do you need windows for? [02:33] ubuntuser: it is funny [02:34] seidos: i need for work and besides i am not well versed with linux. i am a new bie..trying to switch after my friends introduced me to linux. [02:34] ubuntuser: ah. for work. [02:34] gunndawg: it wasn't for me seeing the data and files and work trapped there..anyway leave it.. [02:34] ubuntuser: no worries. hope you get your dual boot working [02:35] ubuntuser: it's actually a good way to test for hardware problems. [02:35] seidos: reinstalling didn't fix the problem === ApOgEE__ is now known as ApOgEE [02:35] when I start up terminal [02:35] halpbatman: and compiz --replace fixes it? [02:35] the transparency effect doesn't work [02:35] yeah [02:36] ubuntuser, windows is like a bull in a china shop....it will overwrite everything when you re-install it. [02:36] seidos: hmm..yes.. i can try booting with 7 dvd and doing the fixmbr thing but wouldn't it do the same it did with the ubuntu partition? making it unallocated/corrupted? [02:36] halpbatman: what about preferences > appearance > desktop effects? [02:36] madsailor: maybe..but when i tried with vista, it didn't happeb [02:36] seidos: it's set at normal [02:37] ubuntuser: yeah, it probably would remove the formatted partitions. [02:37] ubuntu, so what do you have on your drive now, and what is the ultimate goal? [02:37] *sorry,* ubuntuser [02:37] ubuntuser: just install win 7, then reinstall ubuntu, we recommend 10.04, the LTS [02:38] I recommend 10.10 [02:38] gunndawg: why? [02:38] seidos: why not ? [02:38] seidos: it works perfectly fine [02:38] seidos: and the current ubuntu partition? isn't there anyway i can save it? otherwise i would have done that by now and will do if there's no way. [02:38] gunndawg: are you a beginner? [02:39] seidos: depends on what you consider a beginner, I am quite happy with 10.10, and recommend it to anyone wanting to switch to ubuntu [02:39] seidos: are you a beginner ? [02:39] gunndawg: it depends what you consider a beginner [02:39] gunndawg: yes [02:40] ubuntuser, to save the Ubuntu you already installed you would have to get windows booting (through win RE), then reinstall grub2 . it is probably faster and easier to start from scratch [02:40] ubuntuser: there may be a way, but if there is, i'm not sure how to find out. what data are you trying to save? [02:41] seidos: photos, projects(mid way)..etc.. [02:41] !grub2 [02:41] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [02:42] ubuntuser, if you just want to save data from your ubuntu install you can use the live cd and DD it to another drive / cd/ whatever media you want [02:42] ubuntuser: you can try the "RestoreGrub" link [02:42] seidos: ok, i tried "partimage" but it threw an error [02:44] ubuntuser: if you followed all the instructions on RestoreGrub, there isn't much else i can recommend, aside from reinstall. [02:44] windows 1st, then ubuntu [02:44] seidos: OK. [02:45] ubuntuser: not sure why windows does that, but not much can be done about it, since it's closed source [02:45] seidos: thanks. let me see. [02:45] seidos: yes. [02:45] assuming one has the development skill [02:45] seidos: oh yeah a question on grub [02:45] seidos: I have two images of linux [02:45] seidos: one is from before update [02:46] seidos: for some reason it persists on the grub menu [02:46] halpbatman: what version of ubuntu? [02:46] seidos: i have 10.10 [02:46] halpbatman: have you checked out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [02:47] halpbatman: i'm actually trying to *add* kernels now, not remove them, as one of my projects [02:47] halpbatman: but i'm sure it shouldn't be that difficult to do with grub2 [02:47] seidos: k ty [02:50] halpbatman: i just had an idea. you might be able to uninstall the linux-images from synaptic that you don't want anymore [02:51] seidos: synaptic? [02:51] halpbatman: do a search for linux-image in synaptic, just don't remove the wrong one. [02:51] seidos: wehre's synaptic? [02:51] halpbatman: synaptic package manager. but, i wouldn't worry about that. it really shouldn't matter. do you reboot a lot? [02:52] seidos: found it [02:52] halpbatman: system -> administration > synaptic pckg mgr [02:52] seidos: i switch back and forth b/w windows and linux [02:52] seidos: certain windows prgs i need for school work [02:53] halpbatman: there may be an open alternative to what you use...and wine *may* be an option [02:53] halpbatman: also virtualization maybe an option for you [02:53] *may be [02:54] seidos: i'm on netbook so virtualization would be too slow i think [02:55] halpbatman: ah, dang it. wine might be fast enough. [02:55] seidos: brb reboot hopefully this problem is fixed [02:56] * seidos hands halpbatman a batarang === halpbatman_ is now known as halpbatman === satamusic___ is now known as satamusic [03:59] test [04:00] hi all [04:00] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1684962 [04:00] thats where i posted my question [04:00] kinda confused on how to get all pcs to work together... all help is appreciated! [04:03] ok, gotta hit the sack, if anyone has a suggestion please send it to yoursurrogategod in ubuntu forums [04:05] is there any labsimulations for net+ for linux? [04:08] any one? [04:10] maybe an online option? [04:12] oh ok [04:12] i have one for the pc but cant get it to run on wine [04:14] you looked at wineHQ ? [04:15] no i didnt [04:16] whats the differance [04:16] http://appdb.winehq.org/ [04:16] whats the software called? [04:17] oh i see thanks [04:17] * seidos clicks the forums link [04:17] seidos: from ysg? [04:17] im not sure what thats about [04:18] comptia labsim [04:19] holstein: yeah [04:19] tool88: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1559498 [04:20] :/ [04:20] seidos: vnc right? [04:20] i really like remmina [04:21] dude awsome [04:21] sucks i cant install it [04:22] tool88: you got a windows disc? [04:22] holstein: that's a good guess. but i wouldn't have inferred that. [04:22] thats one of those things you might just have to run Vbox for tool88 [04:22] yeah looks like im gonna have to [04:22] the seamless mode is... well, seamless [04:22] kinda nice [04:23] seidos: unless the cat is going to buy a KVM [04:40] holstein: isn't kvm also an option? the software? [04:41] something like that [04:41] VNC is arguably easier i think [04:41] i guess it depends on the useage [04:41] im not sure we have the entire story on what is needed there === jesus is now known as Guest75860 [06:04] heya, is there any way to execute the free the fish gnome thing on a remote computer via ssh? [06:05] i tried export DISPLAY=:0; "free the fish" but the lack of reaction from across the rooms seems to indicate failure [06:25] nevermind got it, thanks though [06:29] Hey all - have a generic linux question (not sstrictly restricted to ubuntu) [06:30] Lets say I'm connected to a remote server (at a particular port). Is there a command to know the ip-address of the server i'm connected to (and perharps the port num too??) [08:23] Pr0jectRec0n: netstat -np --inet perhaps [08:23] geirha, omg - you do realize I asked that question 3 hrs back, right? [08:24] Yes [08:25] Pr0jectRec0n: Sorry about our times. =/ [08:40] how do i get the battery status to show in the indicator applet [08:41] Ah add it to panel i think [08:41] One sec [08:42] i didnt see in there, and i thought it was built in in the indicator applet [08:42] terry: Open System -> Power Management -> General [08:42] terry: and then fill 'Always display an icon'. [08:42] aaah thanks [08:43] terry: np. [08:43] cool well im off to bed now....thanks [08:43] JackyAlcine: Dangit you stole my helping status! [08:43] :D [08:44] Nice one man good on ya [08:44] :P [08:44] thanks [10:15] Hello. [10:16] hi [10:17] Hello. [10:17] Hello JoeMaverickSett and bioterror [10:17] How are you both? [10:20] s-fox: i'm very much fine. thank you for asking. how about yourself? :) [10:20] I know he's fine as always ;) [10:21] :D [10:30] I am fine thank you JoeMaverickSett . [10:30] s-fox: great to hear. :) [10:31] JoeMaverickSett, you see! I could be the future man! ;) [10:31] bioterror: haha, you're a psychic :D === MrChrisDruif1 is now known as MrChrisDruif === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:26] Hello my first question here is can I ask about how to go about upgrading packages on my jaunty webserver here? [15:27] or should I find a different channel? I'm a n00b :) [15:27] No, you're in the right place. [15:27] Thanks Jacky [15:27] richardcurran: And upgrading in the sense of upgrade to a new release? [15:28] Well I'm going to try and upgrade my ProFTPD [15:28] to 1.3.3d [15:28] from 1.3.1 [15:28] Isn't that a downgrade? [15:29] haha don't start! [15:29] I 1.3.1 is older than 1.3.3d [15:29] the reason I need to do this is to become compliant for PCI DSS [15:30] Normally I'd have asked my web developer to do this sort of thing, but I've run out of money and now I'm my own webdeveloper [15:30] :( [15:30] Well, usually projects like these have source code that you can compile and utilize. [15:30] I thought that before I do anything I'd find where I can go for help if (/when) it all goes wrong [15:31] If you installed 1.3.3d from your repos, then you should uninstall from there first. [15:31] Otherwise, you could find the 1.3.3d's source and run a sudo make uninstall to remove it. [15:31] Then you can download 1.3.1 and compile it back into your system. [15:32] Just requires a bit of terminal knowledge. [15:32] Hi thanks sorry I think I mistyped earlier on, I am actually upgrading from 1.3.1 TO 1.3.3d [15:32] Lol, ah! [15:32] and from the documentation it appears that I need to go ahead and compile a new version, rather than "update" [15:32] Then just do the reverse. [15:33] ^ yes I thought i might have to [15:33] No, [15:33] wait, if the documentation said to do otherwise, then do so, it might not only preserve your settings, but that means less configuration for you. [15:35] this is when you use a file on your local machine, the make file, to install the package? is that right? [15:35] likewise for uninstalling? [15:35] unfortunately I don't have the original set of files on my local machine [15:49] Anyone have experience of upgrading PROftpd here? [15:53] richardcurran: it is in the repository [15:55] i guess the package is proftpd-basic [15:56] the command - apt-cache search proftpd - can show you the available packages [15:58] if you are interested in installing an application not in the repos (compiling) there is a nice doc on the wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo [16:02] oh and if you compile a package be sure to read the ReadMe.txt [16:04] PROftpd, does it use encryption? [16:14] haha [16:14] ftp doesnt encrypt [16:15] sftp does [16:15] lftp for client and sshd for server [16:16] 0 [16:16] From the looks of the site, it uses SSL, I guess, seidos. [16:17] JackyAlcine: merci [16:17] no problem, l:D [16:17] i just asked because RedSingularity and i were talking about it yesterday [16:17] i don't really use ftp anymore [16:17] SSH? [16:18] torrents, ssh, apache2, mysql [16:18] AH! MySQL! lol. [16:18] it's a love hate relationship [16:18] postresql is teh future! [16:19] * seidos kicks bioterror in the shin weeeee [16:19] I remember when I worked with sun and the guys were like wtf, why we did purchase that [16:20] Lol! [16:48] Why does it take so much work to keep my copy of Ubuntu up to date on my cheap used notebook? I love the concept of Ubuntu. But Windows XP seems much more reliable. I'm sorry to say this. [16:48] I wish I coul find an easier way to keep Ubuntu up to date. [16:48] what? [16:49] whats so hard in it? [16:49] notifies you in the same way as windows, that theres new updates [16:49] Elise001: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. [16:49] Done. [16:49] My old notebook seems to disconnect from my home DSL during the night when I leave my notebook running to complete downloading and installing updates. Takes so long. [16:49] few clicks and youre updating your system [16:50] i upgraded from maverick to natty under 20mins today [16:50] But it seems to die in middle all too often. It's like a sports car. Sigh. [16:50] didnt take that long [16:51] elise, problem is that you get disconnected? [16:51] Yes. [16:51] and why you do it during night? [16:52] It takes hours. [16:52] seems like problem is the NIC [16:52] possible drivers has something [16:53] hey folks [16:53] elise, would you like to tell us the download speed of your upgradings [16:58] I'm not sure what the speed is. I use AT&T 2wire. I,m using that right now for dsl for this netbook running windows xp and getting good response time. I will be away from computer for a few minutes. sorry. [17:00] so much for the helping then [17:01] Elise001: There's reports from HeliOS that AT&T does have a fit with Linux systems. [17:01] is that somekind of usb modems or what [17:02] No, it's an organization that refurbishes and gives back computers using Linux, and I remember reading that AT&T's known for giving Linux users problem with connection related to drivers or something alongst that line. [17:03] what kind of problems could be with adsl then [17:04] plug-in the twistedpair cabled with rj45 and connect to intahnet! [17:04] Not sure. Got to shower. Tonight I'll come back on this netbook, and try to upgrade ubuntu on my old notebook. Then I can give you more accurate info. Say hi to Seidos for me. Bye for now and thanks. [17:04] I'll just leave this up 4 a few minutes. [17:04] i bet seidos will gladly help you P) [17:04] ;) [17:05] What happened? === udienz is now known as afghanux === afghanux is now known as udienz [18:18] Hello. How do I remove 'Open With' entries from the Nautilus context menu? [18:20] Fanshawe: right-click, properties, then there should be a tab like "associated applications" or something like that. go there and you can remove them [18:21] you can also change which application is used by default by doing that [18:22] Right click on any folder? [18:22] Fanshawe: On the file that you want to change the default application for. [18:22] right [18:23] whatever filetype [18:23] so if you want to remove openoffice as the default and/or one of the "open with" applications of .doc files, you can right-click any .doc file and change it [18:24] There is no tab for the properties of folders. [18:25] you're trying to change the "open with" for folders? [18:25] Fanshawe: You can't change what folders are opened with... [18:25] Yes, for Nautilus, or whatever Ubuntus file browser is called. [18:25] Fanshawe: Files are "opened". "folders" (properly called "directories") are browsed. [18:26] right, folders will always open within nautilus [18:26] or dolphin. [18:26] JackyAlcine: if you use kubuntu :) [18:26] or PCManFM [18:26] Yes. But at one time I used an 'open with' function on a folder, I think I was opening an album in a media player. [18:27] I'm trying to remove that option from the context menu now. [18:27] Fanshawe: That's a function of the menu itself, not the "open with" submenu. [18:28] Fanshawe: This should help you out http://techthrob.com/2009/03/02/howto-add-items-to-the-right-click-menu-in-nautilus/ [18:28] Fanshawe: I know it says "add" but I assume the same utility can be used to remove items as well. [18:29] Goodbye. [18:29] A screen shot does show a 'delete' function. I'll try it out. [18:29] ...was that silverfox? [18:30] Or, someone else has recommended I navigate to '~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list'. [18:34] I've got it. Thank you all. === szczur_ is now known as szczur [21:18] can i dual boot ubuntu with ubuntu? [21:18] tool88: yes. [21:18] tool88: surely can, just make sure you adjust the grub entries so you don't get them confused :D [21:18] will ubuntu do the partion like windows [21:19] not sure how to do that [21:19] tool88: depends on what you mean by "like windows" [21:19] iso it runs side by side i mean [21:20] ofcourse [21:20] so how would i adjust the grub then? [21:20] it should ajust itself automatically ;) [21:21] ok thats what i was hoping [21:21] mmm [21:21] not it wont, I think :D [21:21] Yeah, I was just saying if you have the same kernels and the same everything else you might want to adjust them manually so you can tell them apart easily [21:22] well the one i was going to mess with the nvidia driver [21:22] after i install the driver i lose my gui [21:22] so i wanted to mess with the one till i got it right [21:23] you dont need another installation for that [21:23] you can always remove xorg.conf and remove certain packages and start from the beginning [21:23] after i lose my gui i cant get to the recovery screen [21:23] it dosnt show [21:24] problem is i have a lap top with a broken screen and for some reason when i install the driver the crt i use is just black [21:25] like it only default the video to the laptop moniter [21:27] you can get to TTY? [21:27] ctrl+alt+f1? [21:28] yeah i do that but i cant get the failsafe-x to work [21:29] and hitting esc is eigther hit or miss [21:38] hi people [21:39] i have a problem [21:39] is there any way to recover deleted and empty trashed files from an EXT4 external 500GB hard drive? [21:40] check out http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec asterismo [21:40] i use it from http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ [21:40] might be an easier way though [21:41] i already tried scalpel, but it extracted several 47 MB avi files... i want to recover a bunch of avi files from 700 MB to 2 GB in size [21:42] but the drive is ok [21:42] * holstein never used scalpel [21:43] photorec shouldnt care what size or filetype [21:43] is just that i deleted some large files and empty trash, and then realized that i had no backuo [21:43] backup, so i should try to recover, like undelete [21:43] but scalpel did not worked at all [21:43] sure [21:43] or try using photorec [21:44] literally cant hurt [21:44] but does PhotoRec support AVI files? [21:44] photorec just grabs [21:44] it dont care what its grabbing [21:44] it doesnt 'support' anything really [21:44] or not support anything that is* [21:45] i bet it works great on drives that are still working properly [21:45] im usually using it on failing hardware [21:45] with surprising results [21:47] i see that it is somehow related to testdisk [21:47] i tried testdisk but did not figure out how it works [21:47] thats why i use it from http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ [21:47] its in the menu [21:48] in partedmagic or whatever [21:48] do what you want, but i think its safe to say [21:48] if photorec dont get em [21:48] you can give up [21:53] holstein, trinity rescue kit is also good tool [22:43] Is there any issue with leaving directories mounted (Windows shares and FTPs)? Are they alway connected or do the timeout after awhile like a normal FTP client? [22:44] I've never had one time out [22:44] I meant more disconnect wen idle [22:44] I've had samba shares mounted for weeks on end without a hitch. I'd say it's something you could set up to time out though [22:45] Ah well the folder sits on my desktop for weeks on end even when not in use, might not have a connection open permanently though if that's what you mean. [22:46] I'm more concerned about the FTP.... I leave the computer on 24/7 and don't want to be connected to the ftp that long. [22:46] so if it's mounted... it's connected? [22:47] I was hoping I didn't need to mount and unmount... I guess I was hoping ubunut would automount on demand or something [22:48] It's able to be used, it might not actually have data travelling over the network 24/7. I'm sure you could set the server up to drop connections after they have been idle for x amount of time. [22:48] heh, I think I've been connected to my ftp for a week [22:49] or at least it's been mounted for a week [22:49] Yeah sorry I'm not technical enough to differentiate between "connected" and "mounted" sorry :/ I would have to go do some googling to be sure === markus is now known as newlad [23:52] good evenbing [23:52] anyone here [23:52] ? [23:54] hello newlad [23:54] hye...i have a weird problem! [23:54] facebook wont work on my laptop [23:54] netbook actually [23:55] its working from the other guys system but its no coming up on mine...other pages work find, just FB doesnt [23:55] i also cant send emails [23:55] does that make any sense? [23:57] i tried dooble and frirefox...