[02:02] <nigelb> morning
[07:53] <dpm> good morning all
[08:04] <dholbach> good morning
[08:12] <kim0> Morning o/
[08:15] <dholbach> hey kim0
[08:16] <kim0> dholbach: hey man
[08:28] <nigelb> Morning kim0, dholbach, dpm :)
[08:29] <dholbach> hi nigelb, hi dpm
[08:29] <kim0> nigelb: hey dpm
[08:35] <nigelb> dholbach: \o/ 4 more slots to go.  I think I can get someone from IS to fill one slot.  \o/
[08:35] <dholbach> oh wow
[08:35] <dholbach> I have to talk to the Debian-Ubuntu mafia again
[08:35] <dholbach> I'd really love for us to have that session there
[08:36] <dholbach> but in general it looks great already
[08:36] <nigelb> There is one ubuntu-debian session that came up
[08:36] <nigelb> I'd like to have one more
[08:36] <nigelb> 'mafia' HAHAHA
[08:36] <dholbach> where is that ubuntu-debian session?
[08:36] <nigelb> tumbleweed
[08:36] <nigelb> wait, no
[08:37] <nigelb> that's a different one
[08:37] <nigelb> so that means yeah, we need 2 from the ubuntu-debian mafia
[08:37] <dholbach> that'd be nice
[08:37] <dholbach> there's a lot of things that are hard to understand when you're new and you want to do everything right
[08:37] <dholbach> like cooperating with upstreams and debian in particular
[08:37] <nigelb> I agree.
[08:39] <nigelb> Hrm, Emmet should be a good person to ask about upstreams ;)
[08:39]  * nigelb tries
[08:39] <dholbach> it might be a very bad time for hime
[08:40] <dpm> hi dholbach, kim0, nigelb
[08:40] <nigelb> I thought it would be morning-ish time for him
[08:40]  * nigelb checks
[08:52] <jono> night all
[08:52] <jono> bed for me
[08:54] <dholbach> nigelb, Debian session booked
[08:54] <duanedesign> morning all
[08:56] <nigelb> dholbach: I saw! Rhonda told me yesterday/day before that she would be moving and she wasn't sure of time.  I'm glad it all worked out :)
[08:56] <nigelb> morning duanedesign
[08:56] <dholbach> hi duanedesign
[08:56] <kim0> duanedesign: morning
[09:30] <nigelb> dholbach: w00t 2 more to go! So close :)
[09:31] <dholbach> nice work
[09:31] <dholbach> let's see if we can get some more packaging stuff in
[09:32] <nigelb> dholbach: any idea of seb or pitti would want to do a session?
[09:32] <nigelb> its a release week, so I'm not very sure
[09:32] <dholbach> I'll try to ask bdrung
[09:32] <nigelb> I did ask him, he wasn't very enthusiastic
[09:44] <dholbach> nigelb, 1 left
[09:48]  * nigelb hugs dholbach 
[09:48]  * dholbach hugs nigelb back
[09:49] <nigelb> dholbach: trying to get cdbs to do a session, let me see if I can manage that
[09:50] <dholbach> he has exams in the following week
[09:50] <dholbach> I asked him already
[09:50] <nigelb> Ah, skipping that then
[09:51] <nigelb> dholbach: hey, we're missing kernel-ish stuff this time ;)
[09:52] <dholbach> JFo, ^ what do you think about a kernel-ish session at UDW this time?
[09:52] <nigelb> :D
[09:52] <dholbach> maybe some kind Q&A? or howto get involved session?
[09:53] <dholbach> I'm sure that in the huge kernel team, there's a couple of folks who could be part of that Q&A?
[09:54] <dholbach> or helping out with kernel bugs?
[11:09] <nigelb> dholbach: I'm linking the time on the schedule to timeanddate.com
[11:10] <nigelb> wait, that's going to be tough :\
[11:18] <dholbach> yeah :)
[11:19] <dholbach> nigelb, we can do it in the sessions page
[11:19] <dholbach> and I'll do it in the blog announces that go out each day
[11:19] <nigelb> \o/
[11:21] <dholbach> nigelb, are you going to do it on the sessions page?
[11:21] <dholbach> no worries, I'll do it
[11:21] <dholbach> but we need to round up a few more lightning talkers
[11:22] <dholbach> jcastro, ^ do you have an idea who else we could ask for the last UDW session (Project introductions as lightning talks?)
[11:22] <nigelb> I was planning on doing it later today
[11:22] <nigelb> dholbach: I have a project which I may showcase, the time isn't very favorible for me, so I'm holding back for now.
[11:23] <nigelb> jcastro: can we have some example work of the places api by then? because it would be cool to show case one app/place built and then show the potential ;)
[11:25] <nigelb> ok, one more person hooked for project lightning talk
[11:28] <nigelb> gah, someone had this idea about a bikeshed(?) package for all those handy scripts... was that dustin?
[11:44] <dholbach> ok /Sessions sorted out
[11:52]  * nigelb hugs dholbach 
[11:53] <nigelb> dholbach: how many lightning talks are we having?
[11:53] <nigelb> 11?
[11:53] <dholbach> as much as we can get lined up :)
[11:53] <nigelb> :)
[11:56] <nigelb> dholbach: wanna tweet about the lightning talks?
[11:56] <nigelb> I can RT :)
[12:00] <dholbach> http://twitter.com/#!/dholbach/status/35669417459331072
[12:00] <dholbach> http://identi.ca/notice/64124532
[12:01] <nigelb> Rt'd
[12:02] <dholbach> http://www.facebook.com/dholbach/posts/128889760513694
[12:03] <nigelb> Shared too :)
[12:10] <dholbach> thanks
[12:11] <dholbach> restarting my session brb
[12:33] <doctormo> Wow, that PCPro experiment is mental!
[12:33] <popey> hmm?
[12:45] <doctormo> popey: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2011/02/10/live-blog-running-pc-pro-on-ubuntu/
[12:51] <popey> blimey that's brave/stupid/misguided/misguiding
[12:55] <AlanBell> it is a bit unconventional, however they do seem to want to make it work
[13:00] <doctormo> popey: As I said, mental.
[13:31] <mhall119> misguiding I'd say
[13:31] <mhall119> switching totally to a new OS without any preperation or planning?
[13:31] <mhall119> that'll be bad no matter the OS
[13:34] <jcastro> omg how's pcpro coming along?
[13:35] <jcastro> oh good, a live blog
[13:36] <mhall119> yeah
[13:36] <mhall119> my favorite is Mike Jennings' "Ubuntu is awesome, now let's see if I can load it up with my Windows apps"
[13:37] <jcastro> hah
[13:37] <jcastro> I see ATI drivers are once again totally "awesome"
[13:38] <jcastro> wow that's not so bad
[13:38] <jcastro> we failed at things we normally fail at so no surprises
[13:39] <mhall119> once again Exchange is the bane of work-place Linux
[13:41] <mhall119> damn, they're using wubi?
[13:41] <jcastro> <3 wubi
[13:41] <doctormo> mhall119: Yea, it's a pain to migrate... but they do have a Canonical bod to hand.
[13:41] <mhall119> yeah, but wubi, in my experience, introduces weird hardware quirks that don't exist in a normal install
[13:42] <mhall119> doctormo: I saw that, good idea on Canonical's part
[13:42] <doctormo> Besides are jcastro emoted, wubi is fantastic for uptake... it's just sucky for migration and vulnerable to windows death.
[13:42] <doctormo> as*
[13:42] <jcastro> I'm glad we sent someone
[13:43] <jcastro> it could have been much worse
[13:43] <doctormo> mhall119: We need to get to a point where all the hardware failures are because of hardware failure ;-)
[13:45] <mhall119> why do people even use MSN anymore?
[13:47]  * mhall119 wonders if #ubuntu is full of pcpro folks
[13:47] <jcastro> oh god, we didn't send them to IRC did we?
[13:48] <mhall119> lol
[13:49] <mhall119> i think AlanBell did
[13:49] <Pici> Great. :|
[13:50] <mhall119> one of the biggest problems I see new Ubuntu/Linux users facing is assuming that there's nothing useful installed by default
 where is the IM
[13:50] <mhall119> how many people asked what IM client to get?  Use the one that's already there!
 YOU SUCK!
[13:51] <jcastro> look how many of them installed tweetdeck too
[13:51] <jcastro> I bet they don't know it comes with twitter too
[13:51] <Pici> I thought that Empathy and its settings was a bit hidden away myself. /me shrugs
[13:53] <jcastro> everything in the messaging menu unfortunately
[13:53] <jcastro> I am glad they are live blogging, an office full of feedback of new users is <3
[13:53] <jcastro> though hopefully they also sent charlene or someone from design to watch how people use their PCs
[13:53] <mhall119> Applications->Internet->Empathy Internet Messaging
[14:05] <mhall119> oh, nvidia xrandr fail :(
[14:09] <jcastro> http://ubuntuone.com/p/cVu/
[14:09] <jcastro> woo hoo!
[14:09] <mhall119> jcastro: sweet!
[14:10] <jcastro> ok so this uses libunity like Places
[14:10] <jcastro> so when we get GI Python support in Places we get it here too
[14:10] <mhall119> cool
[14:12] <nigelb> jcastro: neat
[14:15] <nigelb> where's JFo when you want him :p
[14:18] <AlanBell> jcastro: mhall119 I was sending them to #ubuntu-uk not #ubuntu
[14:18] <jcastro> ah
[14:18] <jcastro> AlanBell: you know what would be cool
[14:19] <jcastro> ask them to come to a loco event post-facto
[14:19] <nigelb> or ask them to *host* a loco event
[14:19] <dpm> kim0, do you know anything about RTL support in MoinMoin? Someone tells me that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArabicTranslationTeam/NewTranslator does not look right (text badly aligned) and I'm not sure if it's incomplete support in MoinMoin or a bug in the new Ubuntu wiki theme
[14:19] <kim0> checking
[14:20] <nigelb> the css seems broken for sure
[14:21] <kim0> dpm: text (at least the arabic part) looks good to me and correctly aligned .. can't see what's wrong with it
[14:21] <nigelb> kim0: firefox?
[14:21] <kim0> chrome
[14:21] <kim0> trying ff
[14:21] <nigelb> its broken slightly for me in chromium
[14:22] <AlanBell> jcastro: yeah that would be good
[14:22] <kim0> wth
[14:22] <kim0> I'm getting a completely different theme now
[14:22] <popey> 13:51:15 < jcastro> I bet they don't know it comes with twitter too
[14:22] <nigelb> kim0: are you seeing the new theme?
[14:22] <popey> BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!
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[14:23] <kim0> hmm .. when logged in .. I get the old theme which is ok .. when not logged in .. new theme and indeed wrong aligning
[14:23] <kim0> dpm: ^
[14:23] <dpm> kim0, ah, it has to do with the new theme then...
[14:23]  * kim0 nods
[14:24] <kim0> dpm: I can take a snapshot for you for how it's supposed to look, useful ?
[14:24] <kim0> from the old theme
[14:24] <dpm> kim0, would you mind sending me a couple of screenshots and I'll file a bug? I cannot point the issues
[14:24] <kim0> :)
[14:24] <nigelb> I have a shot of the new one if that helps :)
[14:24] <dpm> ok, I'm a slow typer....
[14:25] <nigelb> dpm: http://imgur.com/XD77U
[14:26] <nigelb> the breakage in chromimum
[14:26] <nigelb> kim0: might want to change your settings and chnage to new theme :)
[14:28] <kim0> dpm: just emailed you the snapshots
[14:29] <dpm> kim0, got them, thanks
[14:30] <dpm> now... does anyone know where to best file Ubuntu Wiki theme bugs?
[14:30] <jcastro> the same place we file all wiki bugs that get ignored. :p
[14:30] <jcastro> ubuntu-website
[14:31] <nigelb> hehe
[14:38] <AlanBell> actually a bunch of them got moved to https://launchpad.net/canonical-isd-web
[14:38] <AlanBell> so they can be ignored from a canonical perspective
[14:38] <AlanBell> some were in danger of being fixed when they were in ubuntu-website
[14:40] <jcastro> come on, let's not get too crazy
[14:42] <AlanBell> https://code.launchpad.net/~alanbell/ubuntu-website/light-moin-fixes/+merge/40794
[14:42] <AlanBell> approved merge request not applied
[14:42] <AlanBell> bits cherry picked from it and put into production without going through trunk
[14:43] <AlanBell> I have given up
[14:58] <dpm> ok, thanks AlanBell and jcastro. I think I'll report it anyway, just for the fun of it
[14:58] <jcastro> :D
[15:18] <doctormo> jcastro: It was jpds this whole time helping pcpro
[15:18] <Pici> Neat!
[15:19] <jcastro> yeah, makes me feel better
[15:21] <doctormo> Especially as he was a community guy and has a little field experience before Canonical :-D
[15:22] <Pici> And an op, so he knows where and where not to send them, if anywhere on IRC.
[15:23] <AlanBell> we haven't seen them turn up in -uk
[15:24] <doctormo> TBH, if this was a ubuntu event, we'd have put them through some kind of training. Many mistakes are rookie.
[15:24] <AlanBell> it is not the regular corporate migration procedure, certainly
[15:29] <popey> good publicity for us tho
[15:29] <AlanBell> yes
[15:29] <nigelb> publicity for us
[15:29] <AlanBell> broadly speaking it seems to have gone OK
[15:29] <nigelb> I reserve judgement on good or bad :p
[15:29] <popey> i didn't know anything about it till part way through the day
[15:29] <AlanBell> me too
[15:29] <nigelb> I heard about it last night
[15:30] <nigelb> (my time)
[15:31] <mhall119> nigelb: no publicity is bad publicity
[15:32] <mhall119> I'm glad they're at least doing this publically and in real-time
[15:34] <nigelb> mhall119: yeah, that bit I'm very glad.
[15:34] <nigelb> My colleagues were talking of stoning me when we switched to Ubuntu.
[15:34] <AlanBell> and good that they were close enough for Gerry to find out in time and dispatch jdps
[15:34] <nigelb> Now though most are hesitant to work on windows systems ;)
[15:35] <AlanBell> the Top Gear stig of Ubuntu support
[15:35] <nigelb> hehe
[15:41] <mhall119> jpds needs to get some kind of metal or something for this
[15:41] <dholbach> nigelb, last slot filled
[15:41] <mhall119> \o/
[15:42] <mhall119> oh, thought you meant the lighting talks
[15:42] <dholbach> no, unfortunately not - we might need a bit more propaganda there
[15:42] <dholbach> but we can already announce UDW
[15:43] <dholbach> I'll start writing an announcement, etc tomorrow
[15:48] <nigelb> dholbach: rocking
[15:48] <nigelb> Ah, I was waiting for the IS guys to come up with a session
[15:49] <jcastro> sigh, what's the page for developer week?
[15:49] <jcastro> google fail
[15:49] <nigelb> jcastro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable
[15:50] <nigelb> jcastro: check your session description here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Sessions
[15:52] <doctormo> mhall119: Maybe lead, or mercury?
[16:00] <nigelb> dholbach: yay, one more for lightning talk :D
[16:00] <dholbach> woohoo
[16:17]  * dholbach summons jono
[16:21] <nigelb> that sounds like summoning a djinn;)
[16:33]  * popey gets a chicken (hello AlanBell), some candles and some chalk and starts drawing a pentagram on the floor.
[16:34]  * AlanBell locks up the chickens securely
[16:35] <popey> I see my spell is working on maco
[16:35] <dholbach> popey, is there no vegetarian way to summon people?
[16:35] <dholbach> but thanks for helping
[16:36] <nigelb> popey: lol
[16:37]  * nigelb gives popey 'accio' for homework.
[16:40] <czajkowski> dholbach: monkey nuts but that leads to all sorts of crazyness
[16:40] <dholbach> monkey nuts? I said vegetarian!
[16:40] <czajkowski> dholbach: mind out of the gutter young lad
[16:41] <nigelb> lol
[16:41] <czajkowski> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut
[16:42] <dholbach> it can't have been my mind in the gutter, that's just my person-specific context
[16:42] <nigelb> hehe
[16:42] <mhall119> lol, ew
[16:42] <nigelb> I see what you did there dholbach ;)
[17:14] <hggdh> Proposal: we should require people subscribing to moderated Ubntu MLs to abide by the CoC. Comments?
[17:15] <popey> that is already a requirement
[17:15] <popey> uhhhh
[17:16] <popey> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists  (when the site comes back)
[17:16] <hggdh> popey: then, I guess, the ubuntu-users needs pruning
[17:18] <doctormo> hggdh: People's membership would need to expire.
[17:19] <jcastro> I still say shut that list down. :)
[17:19] <jcastro> and sounder
[17:19] <AlanBell> there are various techincal measures that are available, but it isn't a technical problem
[17:20] <jcastro> well, so much for that, they're trying to install Outlook on ubuntu now on pcpro
[17:20] <doctormo> jcastro: So, we'll shut down the wiki, the mailing lists and for good measure irc ;-)
[17:21] <jcastro> that sounds amazing!
[17:21] <doctormo> Yes, outlook... man that's harsh
[17:21] <dholbach> alrightie - I'll call it a day - see you all tomorrow - HUGS
[17:22] <popey> hggdh: specifically?
[17:22] <doctormo> jono: Hey, where are you?
[17:26] <hggdh> popey: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2011-February/239734.html
[17:26] <hggdh> popey: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2011-February/239865.html
[17:26] <mhall119> installing outlook on Ubuntu? :(
[17:26] <hggdh> and I am out of there
[17:28] <jcastro> wow
[17:28] <jcastro> why don't we just ban these people?
[17:29] <hggdh> jcastro: this seems to be not that rare in the list. It pains me because it goes against the image we try to show
[17:30] <jcastro> technoviking and I once had an idea of rewriting that stupid ESR document to be not so dumb
[17:31] <hggdh> I do not think it is needed -- but, again, this is where we strive to be different
[17:31] <hggdh> one can be a hacker, and still polite
[17:31] <maco> oh hey this reminds me
[17:31] <maco> http://blog.melchua.com/2011/02/08/most-fun-ive-ever-had-submitting-a-talk-proposal/
[17:32] <hggdh> heh
[17:33] <popey> that whole thread should have died days ago
[17:33] <popey> like, when I mailed!
[17:34] <hggdh> popey: indeed, and I am very sorry (now) that I entered it
[17:34] <jcastro> let me ban people!
[17:35] <hggdh> although, to be frank, it bothers me when one poster states it is a question of style -- not of politeness
[17:35] <popey> he has a point, however badly made
[17:36] <jcastro> RTFM is a troll answer
[17:36] <jcastro> that's the equivalent of lmgtfy.com links
[17:39] <dpm> ok, calling it a day here...
[17:39] <dpm> see you all tomorrow!
[17:40] <nigelb> I don't know who else
[17:40] <nigelb> I don't know who else
[17:40] <gpc> jcastro: I have to disagree, lmgtfy is rude, rtfm is vulgar.
[17:41] <gpc> neither should be acceptable
[17:41] <jcastro> right, troll answers
[17:41] <gpc> yup
[17:46] <jcastro> hey Technoviking
[17:46] <jcastro> remember when I was talking about a new version of ESR's rage inducing crap document?
[17:47] <jcastro> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2011-February/239865.html
[17:47] <Technoviking> yeah
[17:48] <jcastro> ok so there's this googler who has this: http://msmvps.com/blogs/jon_skeet/archive/2010/08/29/writing-the-perfect-question.aspx
[17:48] <jcastro> which is basically a nice version
[17:48] <jcastro> so I just mailed him asking him if he can CC it
[17:50] <Technoviking> that looks like a great blog entry for asking question
[17:50] <jcastro> right
[17:51] <jcastro> so I mean, take the text, creative commons
[17:51] <jcastro> and come up with "Asking Questions the Collaboraitve Way" or whatever
[17:52] <Technoviking> need to remove the Matthew 7:12 quote and tweak more for Ubuntu, would work well indeed
[17:52] <jcastro> right right
[17:52] <jcastro> this would be a starting point
[17:52] <Technoviking> also less coded specfic and be more Ubuntu general
[17:52] <jcastro> and also, not ubuntu specific
[17:52] <hggdh> yes. I guess the Matthew part is religion, right?
[17:52] <jcastro> I mean, more general specific
[17:53] <jcastro> oh awesome, john's agreed to CC-BY
[17:53] <Technoviking> hggdh: some link to a New Testament
[17:53] <Technoviking> coolness
[17:53] <jcastro> oh man
[17:53] <jcastro> openrespect.org/questions
[17:53] <jcastro> there it is
[17:54] <maco> um, what about the thing doctormo made?
[17:54] <JanC> it's unlikely most users will read any document before asking their first questions, but something to point them to might be useful indeed...  ;)
[17:55] <jcastro> right
[17:55] <jcastro> but that's not the point
[17:55] <jcastro> the point is to give people something better than the esr document
[17:55] <jcastro> so that when someone is lost, confused, they get pointed to something useful
[17:55] <jcastro> instead of a document that says "be an asshole"
[17:56] <jcastro> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/questions
[18:27] <doctormo> jono: Do you know that's you've made more join/disconnect lines this week than messages?
[18:27] <jono> doctormo, yeah, I am having some networking issues :-/
[18:28] <doctormo> jono: Damn, what's going on with work? why are you not here, talking to us? :-)
[18:29] <jono> doctormo, lol, I am slammed with work, that's the problem :-)
[18:29] <jono> sorry I have not been around as much, doctormo
[18:30] <doctormo> jono: It's ok, I'm just sad that I don't get to have your encouragements and general chat.
[18:30] <jono> doctormo, yeah, I want to reseat the balance a bit better
[18:30] <jono> I have not been on IRC as much recently
[18:30] <doctormo> Keep up the good work though, :-)
[18:54] <jono> thanks doctormo!
[18:55] <jono> you too :-)
[19:28]  * popey cuddles jono
[19:28]  * jono cuddles popey
[19:28] <JFo> :-/
[19:29] <doctormo> Hey JFo, what are you up to?
[19:30] <JFo> bugs
[19:30] <JFo> making me crazy
[19:30] <JFo> how about you doctormo?
[19:53] <doctormo> JFo: Keeping myself busy with stuff. Bugs, I almost finished a project to report lesser issues, got bored and put it down.
[20:00] <JFo> I can understand that
[20:02] <jono> jcastro, ping?
[20:09] <jcastro> jono: on the phone, one sec
[20:42] <jcastro> jono: ok back
[21:23] <jono> jcastro sorry for the delay, been in calls all day
[21:23] <jono> can you update the front page images of uds.ubuntu.com with some images from https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-women/2011-February/003142.html
[21:24] <jcastro> sure
[21:24] <jcastro> where can we host these?
[21:25] <jcastro> also do you know if the CSS does something magical or did you copy/crop them each?
[21:26] <jono> jcastro maybe hotlink them?
[21:26] <jono> or put them on flickr?
[21:26] <jono> jcastro I cropped each
[21:26] <jcastro> k, I'll use picasaweb, someone pointed out that the flickr thing was against their ToS
[21:28] <jcastro> http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Natty/14450330_Xqidv#1072131262_xN8P2
[21:28] <jcastro> hahaha
[21:36] <jcastro> oh man
[21:36] <jcastro> jono: let's use this for something in the future: http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Natty/14450330_Xqidv#1072552440_99kAA
[21:36] <jcastro> I don't know what
[21:36] <jcastro> but ....
[21:36] <jono> jcastrohaha
[21:37] <maco> what a dork :P
[21:38] <jcastro> :-/ Not so many pics of sessions
[21:39] <jcastro> czajkowski: what could we possible be doing here? http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Natty/14450330_Xqidv#1072191959_BNfQD-A-LB
[21:39] <JFo> jono, I'm fond of this one: http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Natty/14450330_Xqidv#1072548845_JjvuK
[21:41] <JFo> oh man, there is some blackmail material in there
[21:57] <doctormo> popey: Do you have access to a vmware box?
[21:57] <jcastro> jono: ok, check it: http://uds.ubuntu.com/
[21:57] <popey> doctormo: no, but i have virtualbox
[21:58] <doctormo> popey: I have vbose too, know anyone with vmware?
[21:58] <jcastro> JFo: yours shockingly didn't make it
[21:58] <popey> doctormo: yes, probably
[21:59] <JFo> jcastro, what do you mean?
[21:59] <jcastro> I didn't put you in the banner unfortunately
[21:59] <JFo> ah
[21:59] <JFo> no sweat
[22:00] <jcastro> wanna see something awesome?
[22:00] <jcastro> ok if you insist
[22:00] <JFo> sure
[22:00] <JFo> :)
[22:00] <jcastro> here's me saving Daniel's session in summit: http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Natty/14450330_Xqidv#1072209328_XmkLE
[22:00] <jcastro> he was like "hey man, launchpad swallowed up my thing"
[22:00] <jcastro> then I got all ninja
[22:00] <JFo> you rock dude
[22:01] <jcastro> this is the quintessential end-of-UDS pic
[22:01] <jcastro> http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Natty/14450330_Xqidv#1072183021_f5nrG-A-LB
[22:01] <jcastro> right there.
[22:04] <maco> jcastro: i think you're doing air guitar
[22:05] <maco> (in the one with you and cztab)
[22:05] <jcastro> or maybe it's mid headbang?
[22:05] <maco> both?
[22:05] <maco> your hands look air-guitaring, and headbang is a common accompaniment...
[22:07] <JFo> I'm glad the party went as well as it did
[22:13] <jono> thanks jcastro, looks great!
[22:13] <jono> JFo, lol!
[22:13] <JFo> :)
[22:13] <JFo> rawr
[22:15] <maco> i see a bug
[22:15] <maco> the left arrow is fully visible
[22:15] <maco> right one is cut off
[22:15] <jcastro> file it on ubuntu-website please
[22:18] <maco> done
[22:18] <jcastro> link so I can confirm pls?
[22:18] <jono> czajkowski, around?
[22:21] <jcastro> jono: what's the diff between https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviews and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostReleaseApps/Process
[22:22] <jono> jcastro the later is where I developed the process, the former is the final proces
[22:22] <jono> s
[22:22] <jono> could you add a redirect?
[22:22] <jono> for the latter to go to the former
[22:22] <jcastro> sure
[22:23] <jono> thanks!
[22:27] <JanC> I wonder if Canonical would be interested in selling cheap promo materials like the table cloths, banners, rollups, etc. to locoteams?  (cheap as in "cheaper than we can have them made ourselves")
[22:31] <cjohnston> jcastro: who is responsible for the design/maintenance of uds.u.c? (more than just the text content)
[22:31] <vish> JanC: have you seen the prices in the canonical store? the branded items are not 'cheaper' there ;)
[22:32] <JanC> vish: they sell those with a profit
[22:33] <JanC> they don't need to sell everything for a profit  ;)
[22:33] <jcastro> cjohnston: web team guess?
[22:33] <vish> JanC: oh! you were wondering for something like loco stuff?
[22:33] <vish> LoCo*
[22:33] <JanC> yes, I sauid for selling to locoteams
[22:33] <cjohnston> jcastro: I know it isnt newz2000... I don't believe ubuntu-website is the correct project to file the bugs against.. so im trying to figure out what is
[22:34] <JanC> like the banner & table cloth we got for free
[22:34] <vish> JanC: oops! i missed that last word :)
[22:34] <jcastro> cjohnston: hmm, not sure
[22:34] <doctormo> JanC: you got a table cloth too?
[22:34] <JanC> doctormo: yes
[22:34] <cjohnston> jcastro: checking.. ill get back to you..
[22:34] <doctormo> Damn, MA had to buy it's own banners and table cloths.
[22:35] <JanC> doctormo: approved team?
[22:35] <doctormo> JanC: We used to be.
[22:35] <JanC> not so long ago, all approved teams got a table cloth & banner for free
[22:35] <JanC> thanks to the loco council & canonical  ;)
[22:36] <doctormo> JanC: yes, but we already had two banners and 3 table cloths by the time that came in. :-P
[22:36] <doctormo> And then I think two months later we were demoted.
[22:37] <JanC> as we have events all over the country, it might be cheaper in the long run to buy more of these than to send them around  ;)
[22:42] <head_victim> So the tablecloths and banners can be purchased?
[22:46] <doctormo> head_victim: From your local retailers.
[22:46] <head_victim> Ah ok I thought you meant the ones distributed to official locos.
[22:47] <doctormo> head_victim: No, I mean the ones well before there was such things.
[22:48] <head_victim> Ah now I'm getting you.
[22:50] <cjohnston> jcastro: It will be tomorrow before i get an answer.. ill let you know though
[22:50] <jcastro> fo sho
[22:52] <cjohnston> I say we assign them all to akgraner
[22:52] <cjohnston> Are you responsible for the picture jcastro ?
[22:53] <jcastro> I CERTAINLY AM CHRIS.
[22:53] <jcastro> Why do you ask?
[22:53] <akgraner> assigning what to me? normally I would say yes without asking - but I have learned..:-P
[22:53]  * jcastro makes evil gestures
[22:53] <cjohnston> bugs against uds.u.c akgraner
[22:53] <cjohnston> akgraner: did you see what mr. castro did?
[22:53] <akgraner> hahah - I'd just forward them to JFo
[22:53] <cjohnston> lol
[22:54] <jcastro> wait JFo is real?
[22:54] <jcastro> I thought that was a kernel bug closing bot!
[22:54] <akgraner> jcastro, shhhhh it's a well kept secret
[22:56] <akgraner> bbiab
[23:07] <maco> jcastro: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/716726
[23:07] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 716726 in ubuntu-website "right navigation arrow on uds.ubuntu.com slideshow cut off" [Undecided,New]
[23:10]  * JFo is a myth
[23:11] <Pendulum> JFo: are you a myth or a lie? and if you're a lie does that mean you're cake?
[23:11] <maco> oh cake?
[23:11]  * JFo is cake
[23:11] <JFo> EAT ME ;-P
[23:11] <JFo> j/k
[23:11]  * JFo is actually a legend
[23:11] <maco> http://yfrog.com/gzmqxybj one of my friends had minecraft cake for her birthday
[23:11] <maco> complete with cube strawberries
[23:12] <JFo> nice
[23:29] <JanC> head_victim: it was my question whether it is possible to buy these tablecloths and similar stuff (for a reasonable price) or we better make them ourselves...  ;)
[23:29] <jcastro> maco: did you watch modern family yet?
[23:30] <maco> jcastro: no i dont have real internet yet
[23:30] <maco> i get my first paycheque next week, so...i should have internet around the 20th
[23:35] <jcastro> maco: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5720/maco.jpg
[23:36] <paultag> jcastro: holy shit
[23:36] <paultag> is that actually maco?! That's a clone!
[23:42] <doctormo> paultag: It's somewhat like maco, but nothing like mako.
[23:43] <paultag> doctormo: who said mako? ;)
[23:49] <maco> mako sushes me if we are being introduced simultaneously
[23:49] <maco> "hi im mako" "i'm--" "DONT LISTEN TO HER! SHE'S MACKENZIE!"
[23:49] <maco> s/sushes/shushes/