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| === smspillaz|asleep is now known as smspillaz | ||
| pitti | Good morning | 04:53 |
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| pitti | chrisccoulson: indeed, hasn't crashed once yesterday; I'd say you fixed it, great work! | 04:54 |
| kenvandine | good morning pitti | 05:27 |
| kenvandine | pitti, i just added libunity launcher integration to xchat-indicator http://ubuntuone.com/p/cVu/ | 05:28 |
| kenvandine | :) | 05:28 |
| pitti | hey kenvandine | 05:29 |
| pitti | kenvandine: oh, cool! | 05:29 |
| kenvandine | i'll do empathy this week too | 05:29 |
| Sweetshark | Morning! | 07:00 |
| pitti | hey Sweetshark | 07:00 |
| * Sweetshark starts to try his luck on libreoffice-3.3.1.1 | 07:17 | |
| === oubiwann_ is now known as oubiwann | ||
| Sweetshark | pitti: Any idea when I can get a hold on doko? LO-3.3.1.1 has been released and I am currently merging in changes from debian ... | 07:25 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: may the source be with you! | 07:25 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: hm, no idea I'm afraid; ask robbiew? (foundations team lead) | 07:25 |
| pitti | he's in the US, so is probably asleep now | 07:25 |
| * Sweetshark is reconsidering thorsten wasnt joking back then with OOo on hg, LO on git, ppas on bzr and lots of diffs flying around in the build repo: http://blog.thebehrens.net/2009/04/01/how-openofficeorg-will-switch-to-a-dscm/ | 07:30 | |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:38 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks | 07:45 |
| didrocks | Guten Morgen pitti, how are you? | 07:45 |
| pitti | didrocks: I'm great! just woke up a little early (5:30) | 07:46 |
| didrocks | urgh, why? | 07:47 |
| didrocks | couldn't sleep more? | 07:47 |
| pitti | was awake enough | 07:48 |
| mvo | woah, I would need lots of tea to keep me going at that time of the night^Wmorning :) | 07:52 |
| dpm | morning all | 07:53 |
| pitti | hey dpm | 07:58 |
| pitti | mvo: cold shower did the job, too :) | 07:58 |
| dpm | heya pitti | 07:58 |
| Sweetshark | meh, i guess the driver is called nouveau because it like a nouveau boot ... | 08:02 |
| RAOF | It also likes to be given regular walks, and to have a stick thrown to it every now and then. | 08:06 |
| pitti | didrocks: just to avoid double work, I'm reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/gdm/language-menu/+merge/45681 now | 08:28 |
| pitti | didrocks: (in case you stumble over it in sponsoring) | 08:28 |
| didrocks | pitti: ok, I'm more doing the sync review right now :) | 08:29 |
| didrocks | pitti: in any case gdm | grep language -> pitti :) | 08:29 |
| rodrigo_ | morning | 08:33 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, hey, do you think bug 284443 is worth fixing? | 08:38 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 284443 in gdm "gdmsetup: Don't offer autologin for ecryptfs users" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/284443 | 08:38 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: I think so, as if you set autologin, you'll just run into a totally broken desktop session, which makes it difficult to clean up again | 08:39 |
| robert_ancell | I thought initially that the issue was the filesystems were being decrypted without a password (i.e. a security problem), but the only issue appears to be that your ~/Private directory doesn't work | 08:40 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, is the encryption on the whole of ~ or just ~/Private? | 08:40 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: no, it's not about ~/Private, we encrypt the entire home by default now | 08:40 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: I mean if you select "encrypted" in the installer | 08:40 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, is that decrypted in the pam conversation? | 08:40 |
| pitti | you'll just get a 20 second timeout, then a nasty error message, and then the session crashes | 08:40 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: yes | 08:41 |
| robert_ancell | it seems to me (not tested) that /etc/pam.d/gdm-autologin should force the password, and GDM should launch the greeter to request this | 08:41 |
| robert_ancell | does this make sense? | 08:42 |
| pitti | if that works, sure; I'm not that familiar with how autologin works in gdm | 08:42 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: I liked your suggestion of just pre-selecting the user and asking the password | 08:42 |
| robert_ancell | because you also have the fun situation that you might not even have a home directory until PAM completes, so GDM/gdmsetup can't guarantee that it can tell if the filesystem will be encrypted | 08:42 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: i. e. not trying to fix it in gdmsetup | 08:42 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: you mean for cases where pam mounts your encrypted home dir over the net? | 08:43 |
| pitti | yeah | 08:43 |
| robert_ancell | yes | 08:43 |
| robert_ancell | ok, I think I know the path forward then | 08:44 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: nice! | 08:44 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, so, being marked as low priority we could defer this to 11.10 right? ahem *lightdm* *lightdm* | 08:46 |
| robert_ancell | ;) | 08:46 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: you mean this bug? | 08:47 |
| robert_ancell | yup | 08:47 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: as I said, if you don't have time to work on it, I'll find someone else (or me) | 08:47 |
| pitti | as it's a "shoot yourself into the foot" option, I'd rather have it fixed earlier | 08:47 |
| robert_ancell | I'm working on the webkit one first. Having trouble reproducing it, you didn't reproduce either right? | 08:48 |
| didrocks | hey rodrigo_, robert_ancell | 08:48 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: I did | 08:48 |
| robert_ancell | didrocks, het | 08:48 |
| robert_ancell | hey | 08:48 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: but only in the installer with the slideshow, on amd64 | 08:48 |
| rodrigo_ | hi didrocks | 08:48 |
| rodrigo_ | hey robert_ancell | 08:48 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: happens reliably every time there, including kvm | 08:48 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, could you reproduce from your desktop install? | 08:48 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: I haven't found a way yet to reproduce in a running system; perhaps one can start the ubiquity slideshow standalone somehow | 08:48 |
| robert_ancell | ubiquity crashes when I try and run it, I have the A2 image, but haven't tried it yet | 08:49 |
| * pitti plays around with this | 08:49 | |
| pitti | hm, so how would I open a HTML page with webkit.. | 08:50 |
| robert_ancell | /usr/lib/webkitgtk-1.0-0/libexec/GtkLauncher doesn't do it for me (doesn't show any of the images, just the navigation buttons). Firefox renders it fine | 08:50 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, ^^ | 08:50 |
| pitti | oh, cool | 08:50 |
| robert_ancell | but not seeing the crash or any errors in valgrind/gdb | 08:50 |
| pitti | $ for f in *.html; do echo $f; /usr/lib/webkitgtk-1.0-0/libexec/GtkLauncher $f; done | 08:52 |
| pitti | hm, they all work | 08:52 |
| pitti | apparently ubiquity launches that differently | 08:52 |
| robert_ancell | no-one recorded what version of webkit it was, do you happen to know? | 08:52 |
| seb128 | hey | 08:52 |
| geser | robert_ancell: Hi, are you aware that your totem-pl-parser upload is in DEPWAIT on libquvi-dev which needs a MIR? | 08:52 |
| seb128 | hey pitti robert_ancell | 08:52 |
| robert_ancell | geser, no, I didn't notice that, thansk | 08:52 |
| pitti | libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 1.3.10-1ubuntu1 | 08:53 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: according to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/alpha-2/natty-desktop-amd64.manifest | 08:53 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, you reproduced with that, or that is what you have now? | 08:53 |
| seb128 | got hit 3 times in a row by that compiz crashing in sn_... today, it's fun things start but you just see you background and have no way to fix it out of restarting the session | 08:53 |
| pitti | hey seb128 | 08:53 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: that was on the alpha-2 CDs, and reproduced | 08:53 |
| robert_ancell | ok | 08:53 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 08:53 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: but it's still current | 08:53 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, I gtg, thanks for the infor | 08:53 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: sleep well! | 08:54 |
| pitti | didrocks: do you know if there's already a compiz bug to bring back proper "snap to screen edge" for window movement? | 09:01 |
| pitti | if you don't know off-hand, I'll search/create one | 09:01 |
| didrocks | pitti: there is a bug about it, but only for nvidia driver | 09:01 |
| didrocks | as smspillaz was telling it was because of the nvidia one | 09:01 |
| pitti | these "windows stick into the next screen by 2 pixels" is really annoying | 09:01 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, for the additional pixels, it's fixed and will be uploaded next week | 09:02 |
| pitti | awesome | 09:02 |
| didrocks | but the resitance on edge isn't working for me | 09:02 |
| didrocks | do you have it working, | 09:02 |
| seb128 | doesn't work for me either | 09:03 |
| seb128 | didrocks, oh, compiz update will only be next week? | 09:03 |
| pitti | didrocks: no, it doesn't; even worse, it seems to actively move the windows so that they don't fit on the scren any more | 09:04 |
| didrocks | seb128: sam has to make dist, he doesn't want to do it because fixing the invisible window bug and he didn't focus on fixing it yet | 09:04 |
| didrocks | smspillaz: see, I'm not the only one not having the edge resistance working ^^ | 09:04 |
| pitti | my gsession script (which does all the geometry arrangement) hasn't changed in ages, and I even modified it to put the terminals 10 pixels to the left; but it still moves them around | 09:04 |
| didrocks | so no a twinview only issue | 09:04 |
| didrocks | and yes, the option is still activated by ccsm :) | 09:05 |
| * didrocks really wonders if grid can be the cause of that not working | 09:05 | |
| smspillaz | didrocks: likely not | 09:06 |
| smspillaz | didrocks: edge resistance worksfinehere[tm] | 09:06 |
| smspillaz | didrocks: its only enabled for screen edges by default though | 09:07 |
| didrocks | smspillaz: I know it's only enblaed for screen edge, I did it :) | 09:07 |
| smspillaz | ok | 09:07 |
| smspillaz | so what doesn't work then? | 09:07 |
| pitti | it seems to work for the left side | 09:08 |
| pitti | except that it stops ~ 10 pixels before | 09:08 |
| didrocks | smspillaz: screen edge, as told yesterday :) | 09:08 |
| pitti | but not for the right side | 09:08 |
| smspillaz | pitti: that's a problem with the new decorator | 09:08 |
| smspillaz | pitti: works fine here on the right size | 09:08 |
| pitti | ah, "screen" != "virtual desktop" | 09:08 |
| smspillaz | *right side | 09:08 |
| didrocks | pitti: oh, so it's working for you? | 09:08 |
| pitti | didrocks: on the left side (badly), but not on the right or bottom | 09:08 |
| smspillaz | it works fine here | 09:08 |
| didrocks | seb128: do you have the same? (take into account the new decoration side) | 09:08 |
| smspillaz | pitti: the offset by 10px will be fixed in the next update | 09:09 |
| didrocks | smspillaz: it doesn't work, even taking into account the decoration side | 09:09 |
| smspillaz | pitti: its because the new decoration frame window is that much bigger | 09:09 |
| smspillaz | didrocks: sure its enabled ? | 09:09 |
| pitti | ah | 09:09 |
| pitti | I think I was confused by the large gap | 09:09 |
| smspillaz | pitti: yeah | 09:09 |
| pitti | it actually does seem to work on the right side, too | 09:09 |
| didrocks | smspillaz: I didn't change from yesterday when I told you I checked it's enabled :) | 09:09 |
| smspillaz | pitti: that also affected placement as well | 09:09 |
| pitti | smspillaz: perhaps that's what keeps making my windows spill over into the next screen then | 09:10 |
| smspillaz | pitti: it is | 09:10 |
| pitti | coolio then | 09:10 |
| seb128 | didrocks, no, doesn't work here | 09:10 |
| pitti | smspillaz: thanks for the heads-up! nice to see things getting fixed so quickly | 09:10 |
| didrocks | smspillaz: so, doesn't work either for seb128 and me | 09:10 |
| seb128 | but again my system seems to trigger bugs | 09:10 |
| seb128 | like the click-alt-dnd still doesn't work on focussed dialogs | 09:11 |
| smspillaz | seb128: yeah I hit that one | 09:11 |
| smspillaz | seb128: I'm going to fix it after I do the invisible window one | 09:11 |
| smspillaz | seb128: I know what it is, its that we had to add this stupid workaround to make GTK correctly and that is hard to implement properly | 09:12 |
| seb128 | k | 09:12 |
| smspillaz | *make GTK work correclty | 09:12 |
| seb128 | smspillaz, well, one thing at the time, get the invisible one fixed and roll a tarball | 09:12 |
| seb128 | then we can talk about the next round ;-) | 09:12 |
| smspillaz | invisible - > alt -> tar | 09:12 |
| smspillaz | also I have a fix to make the switcher faster | 09:12 |
| glatzor | hello mvo and pitti | 09:23 |
| seb128 | hey glatzor | 09:24 |
| seb128 | smspillaz, you can always make another fix before rolling a tarball | 09:24 |
| seb128 | smspillaz, I would say fix the invisible dialogs one and roll a tarball | 09:24 |
| smspillaz | yeah | 09:25 |
| seb128 | smspillaz, we need that one out to users, the alt-click and switcher issues can wait next roll | 09:25 |
| smspillaz | ok | 09:25 |
| seb128 | smspillaz, thanks! | 09:25 |
| glatzor | hi seb128 ! | 09:25 |
| chrisccoulson | hi pitti - you were up early today weren't you? | 09:26 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: yeah, couldn't sleep any more | 09:26 |
| pitti | hey glatzor | 09:26 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, it's a german thing I guess, not sleeping, he learnt that from asac | 09:29 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey btw, how are you? | 09:29 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128, yeah, i'm good thanks | 09:31 |
| chrisccoulson | a little tired though | 09:31 |
| chrisccoulson | how are you? | 09:31 |
| mvo | hey glatzor | 09:32 |
| seb128 | did your daughter woke you up early again? | 09:32 |
| seb128 | I'm fine thanks | 09:32 |
| mvo | chrisccoulson: its the normal state of a parent, no? being tired? at least in the first years ;) | 09:32 |
| chrisccoulson | mvo - yeah, i always seem to be tired at the moment ;) | 09:33 |
| chrisccoulson | i guess i should get an early night! | 09:33 |
| seb128 | I can see the gdm update next cycle being fun | 09:36 |
| seb128 | they dropped most of the language and keyboard selection from it, it seems | 09:37 |
| seb128 | they use the user account new things instead or something | 09:37 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - we'll be using lightdm won't we? ;) | 09:38 |
| seb128 | if it works ;- | 09:38 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 09:38 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 09:38 |
| chrisccoulson | will we upgrade to the new control-center too? | 09:39 |
| seb128 | next cycle? yes | 09:39 |
| seb128 | lot of fun ;-) | 09:39 |
| chrisccoulson | indeed! | 09:40 |
| chrisccoulson | and there will probably be 2 firefox transitions too ;) | 09:40 |
| chrisccoulson | if mozilla stick to schedule | 09:40 |
| seb128 | or you mean we will switch to chromium? ;-) | 09:40 |
| chrisccoulson | heh ;) | 09:40 |
| chrisccoulson | nobody has had problems upgrading firefox this morning? | 09:45 |
| chrisccoulson | the packaging layout changed a fair bit yesterday | 09:45 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I didn't try yet, you failed to build on armel btw | 09:49 |
| chrisccoulson | still? | 09:49 |
| chrisccoulson | i thought i worked around it ;) | 09:49 |
| seb128 | http://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/versions.html says so | 09:49 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i just looked too | 09:50 |
| chrisccoulson | failed quite late in the build | 09:50 |
| chrisccoulson | 13 hours! | 09:50 |
| seb128 | "cp: cannot stat `./debian/tmp/usr/include/firefox-4.0b11/vorbis': No such file or directory" | 09:50 |
| seb128 | it failed after the build | 09:50 |
| seb128 | in the dh_install | 09:50 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmmm :/ | 09:50 |
| ochosi | bratsche: ping | 10:22 |
| Laney | http://mkestner.blogspot.com/2011/02/signs-of-life.html might interest some of you ;-) | 10:52 |
| Laney | seb128: ^ | 10:52 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks | 10:52 |
| Laney | good to have news! | 10:53 |
| didrocks | session restart, brb | 10:55 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| didrocks | pitti: did you forget to bzr push your dch -r "" on gtk? | 11:03 |
| pitti | checking, hang on | 11:03 |
| pitti | oops, apparently so; done | 11:03 |
| didrocks | pitti: thanks :) | 11:03 |
| pitti | sorry about that | 11:03 |
| pitti | I keep forgetting to push the dch -r | 11:03 |
| pitti | usually I bzr bd -S, upload, and then push | 11:03 |
| pitti | I should probably do that the other way round | 11:04 |
| didrocks | pitti: no worry :) yeah, we should have a wrapper maybe | 11:04 |
| seb128 | bah, firefox crashes on http://sourceforge.net/projects/flac/files/ | 11:06 |
| seb128 | well b10 does, I need to upgrade and test with b11 | 11:06 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - doesn't crash here ;) | 11:07 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - did you submit the crash report? | 11:07 |
| pitti | heh, crashes here, too | 11:07 |
| pitti | Version: 4.0~b11+build3+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 | 11:07 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, no, I don't like much sending browser crashes | 11:08 |
| seb128 | since the browser tend to have sensible infos, password, etc | 11:08 |
| * pitti submits | 11:08 | |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - could you send me the crash ID once you're done? | 11:08 |
| seb128 | I'm also using an outdated version | 11:08 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: how do I know when it's done? | 11:08 |
| seb128 | speaking of which is there an url to watch current beta tarballs? | 11:08 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: the "restart" thing has never ever worked for me | 11:09 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - you don't get a confirmation when it's done, but you can look in about:crashes | 11:09 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-4780dc92-9a7e-4e55-af0b-b335a2110210 | 11:09 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - there's an ftp server | 11:10 |
| chrisccoulson | (and also mercurial) | 11:10 |
| pitti | wow, this thing is clever | 11:10 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/ | 11:10 |
| pitti | it refers to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=632867 | 11:10 |
| ubot2 | Mozilla bug 632867 in General "Firefox Beta 11 crash [@ libc-2.12.2.so@0x33b45]" [Critical,New] | 11:11 |
| seb128 | thanks | 11:11 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, it's good there's a bug already | 11:11 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, not sure why the traces are like that :/ | 11:12 |
| * chrisccoulson checks our symbols are on the server | 11:12 | |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, they're all there | 11:14 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - mind getting a GDB backtrace with --sync? | 11:15 |
| chrisccoulson | it looks like it's an X error | 11:15 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: gdb --args firefox --sync ? | 11:16 |
| pitti | hm, apparently not | 11:16 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - firefox -g --sync should do it | 11:16 |
| chrisccoulson | we have some logic in the shell script to set up the right environment ;) | 11:17 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/565324/ | 11:18 |
| pitti | not too helful, I guess -- do I need more -dbg packages? | 11:18 |
| pitti | ###!!! ABORT: X_GLXVendorPrivateWithReply: BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib length error): file /build/buildd/firefox-4.0~b11+build3+nobinonly/build-tree/mozilla/toolkit/xre/nsX11ErrorHandler.cpp, line 190 | 11:18 |
| pitti | _XError+0x000000F7 [/usr/lib/libX11.so.6 +0x00040F97] | 11:19 |
| pitti | this probably? | 11:19 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, it looks like firefox-dbg, and whatever you need for mesa and libx11 too | 11:19 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, the abort message is on your crash report too | 11:19 |
| pitti | singe it's sigabort, it sounds like an assertion failure | 11:19 |
| pitti | firefox-dbg> ugh, 109 MB | 11:20 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: hm, some trouble with the mesa dbg ones | 11:21 |
| pitti | apparently I'm still newer than natty, I have glx from xorg-edgers | 11:21 |
| * pitti tries to sort that out first | 11:21 | |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - are you on nvidia btw? | 11:22 |
| pitti | intel | 11:22 |
| chrisccoulson | oh | 11:22 |
| chrisccoulson | now that's weird | 11:22 |
| chrisccoulson | it should be impossible to create GL context on != nvidia, as other drivers were blacklisted in firefox | 11:23 |
| chrisccoulson | (for this reason) | 11:23 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmmm :/ | 11:23 |
| pitti | I downgraded a lot of mesa stuff now, but libdrm-nouveau1a is still uninstallable | 11:23 |
| pitti | oh, libdrm perhaps | 11:23 |
| pitti | ah, there | 11:24 |
| seb128 | pitti, chrisccoulson: I'm on intel as well | 11:30 |
| seb128 | but stock natty, no xorg-edger or anything like that | 11:30 |
| * Sweetshark is on nouveau. | 11:30 | |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, is http://sourceforge.net/projects/flac/files/ crashing your firefox? | 11:30 |
| Sweetshark | Are you guzs offering an opportunity to crash my desktop? | 11:31 |
| * Sweetshark tries | 11:31 | |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - if you run firefox from a console, do you see "[GLX] currently only allowing the NVIDIA proprietary driver, as other drivers are giving too many crashes. To bypass this, define the MOZ_GLX_IGNORE_BLACKLIST environment variable." when you access the website that crashes it? | 11:31 |
| chrisccoulson | (you should do) | 11:31 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: no | 11:31 |
| chrisccoulson | i see it here, which is why i don't see the crash :/ | 11:31 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/565327/ | 11:31 |
| chrisccoulson | but it seems that firefox thinks you're on nvidia ;) | 11:31 |
| * Sweetshark starts ff from term | 11:31 | |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - excellent, thanks | 11:32 |
| chrisccoulson | will attach to the bug report | 11:32 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, no, just the abort lines | 11:32 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: every crash opportunity is good to take :) | 11:32 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - oh, that's the problem then :) | 11:32 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, did you try on your latitude? | 11:32 |
| * Sweetshark is GLX blacklisted | 11:32 | |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah. i get the console message here about being blacklisted | 11:32 |
| seb128 | weird | 11:32 |
| chrisccoulson | but the fact that you don't seems to be the real bug ;) | 11:33 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, how is firefox detecting the video card and driver in use? | 11:34 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/afb62e95311a/gfx/thebes/GLContextProviderGLX.cpp#l228 | 11:35 |
| chrisccoulson | not sure how it gets that information yet | 11:35 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti / seb128 - i guess that neither of you are setting MOZ_GLX_IGNORE_BLACKLIST in the environment are you? ;) | 11:41 |
| seb128 | no | 11:41 |
| seb128 | env | grep MOZ gives nothing | 11:41 |
| chrisccoulson | that's good. i had to ask ;) | 11:41 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 11:41 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: right | 11:42 |
| chrisccoulson | the correllations stuff on crash-stats is quite nice: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/9ba1f89e-55db-4cdb-a270-e84cc2110208 | 11:45 |
| chrisccoulson | 71% of people with that crash also have ubufox ;) | 11:45 |
| chrisccoulson | not that that is of any use | 11:45 |
| chrisccoulson | and 71% are on an amd64 with 2 cores ;) | 11:45 |
| seb128 | do you stats on those who are on intel? ;-) | 11:47 |
| seb128 | video driver speaking | 11:47 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - no, i don't think that information is submitted. i'll talk to the guy working on breakpad and ask him if he wants a patch to submit that | 11:47 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti / seb128 - OOI, what does glxinfo say for "server glx vendor string"? | 12:13 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm, switch user is broken, it seems | 12:14 |
| rodrigo_ | or I'm missing some update | 12:14 |
| chrisccoulson | firefox is using the same string there | 12:14 |
| seb128 | $ glxinfo | grep -i vendor | 12:14 |
| seb128 | server glx vendor string: SGI | 12:14 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ^ | 12:14 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - oh, that's the same as me then | 12:15 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm :/ | 12:15 |
| rodrigo_ | also, gdm doesn't start when rebooting | 12:15 |
| rodrigo_ | well, it starts, but doesn't show up the login screen, anybody's seen that? | 12:15 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, is that new? when did you upgrade? do you get any error? | 12:15 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, I'm not full up-to-date, just rebooted an hour ago or so | 12:16 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, no but i didn't upgrade or restart yet today | 12:16 |
| seb128 | what video card and driver? | 12:16 |
| rodrigo_ | nvidia | 12:16 |
| seb128 | k, so might be it | 12:16 |
| rodrigo_ | wqith startx it works, running an X session now | 12:16 |
| seb128 | well the binary drivers are not available for the new xserver abi | 12:16 |
| seb128 | hum, dunno about this issue | 12:16 |
| rodrigo_ | I haven't upgraded any of the xserver* pacvkages | 12:17 |
| seb128 | did you try restarting? | 12:17 |
| seb128 | i.e is that a one time thing? | 12:17 |
| rodrigo_ | yes, that¡s why I was 1 hour offline :) | 12:17 |
| rodrigo_ | I guess my system doesn't like being half-upgraded | 12:17 |
| * rodrigo_ looks at upgradable packages | 12:18 | |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, apart from the gdm issue at restart, does user switching work for you? | 12:18 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128 or anyone else? | 12:18 |
| seb128 | will it screw my current session if I try? ;-) | 12:19 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, well it relies on gdm so if you used startx it will not work | 12:19 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, maybe, it just does nothing for me, so try later if you can't afford losing your current session :) | 12:19 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, right, I mean before restarting, it didn't work, that's why I restarted after upgrading some packages | 12:19 |
| rodrigo_ | now, with startx, of course it doesn't work | 12:20 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, well I just tried a guest session, that worked | 12:20 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 12:20 |
| rodrigo_ | so, it's me | 12:20 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, are you fully up-to-date? | 12:20 |
| seb128 | no, I didn't dist-upgrade since monday | 12:21 |
| seb128 | I did pick some selected upgrades though | 12:21 |
| rodrigo_ | yes, that's what I do | 12:21 |
| seb128 | but I guess most people here are uptodate | 12:21 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, I'll sacrifice a goat and then dist-upgrade | 12:22 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, did you restart only once? | 12:22 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, several times | 12:22 |
| seb128 | ok | 12:22 |
| seb128 | what did you upgrade before getting the issue? | 12:22 |
| rodrigo_ | gnome stuff mainly, from the gnome3 ppa | 12:22 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, well don't dist-upgrade if you are on nvidia and need unity | 12:22 |
| rodrigo_ | and some other packages | 12:22 |
| rodrigo_ | ah, right | 12:22 |
| seb128 | try doing a sudo gdm in your session maybe and see if it complains about something | 12:23 |
| rodrigo_ | yes, also, I see I've got a gdm update | 12:23 |
| seb128 | or look at the /var/log/gdm logs | 12:23 |
| rodrigo_ | trying both | 12:23 |
| seb128 | you can try downgrading gdm... | 12:24 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, brb | 12:25 |
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| rodrigo_ | ok, found it | 12:34 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, oh, what was it? | 12:35 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, the gdm logs show a "GTK3 symbols found on GTK2 process" error, so my gdm is loading some GTK3 stuff, not sure what | 12:35 |
| seb128 | weird | 12:36 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm, 1st thought was g-screensaver, which I upgraded yesterday with a new version I uploaded to the gnome3 ppa | 12:36 |
| rodrigo_ | but seems that's not the issue | 12:36 |
| aquarius | hm. AttributeError: 'gi.repository.Gtk' object has no attribute 'FILE_CHOOSER_ACTION_OPEN'. How can I find out what it's called in the New World Order of g-i? | 12:42 |
| mterry | seb128, btw, I'll be gone for an extended time during my midday today, if you try to ping me and I don't answer | 13:14 |
| seb128 | hey mterry | 13:14 |
| seb128 | mterry, ok, no worry | 13:14 |
| seb128 | mterry, I've another bug for you if you run out of things to do ;-) | 13:14 |
| mterry | seb128, dammit :) | 13:15 |
| seb128 | lol | 13:15 |
| seb128 | well appmenu is solid so great work on that ;-) | 13:15 |
| seb128 | mterry, the g-s-d keyboard layout indicator is buggy, the label doesn't update when the layout is changed | 13:15 |
| seb128 | not sure if that's the g-s-d patch or an indicator issue | 13:16 |
| seb128 | well I think I already assigned it to you on launchpad, not sure if you noticed | 13:16 |
| mterry | seb128, yeah I did, but kenvandine said people were investigating, so I held off | 13:18 |
| mterry | seb128, seems like there's more agreement now about the issue | 13:18 |
| seb128 | mterry, well that bug is a mix | 13:21 |
| seb128 | there is 3 issues | 13:23 |
| seb128 | 1- the indicator label doesn't update | 13:23 |
| seb128 | like if you pick an another layout in the menu or use the keyboard to switch | 13:23 |
| seb128 | 2- if you start with 1 layout, add another and delete it the menu stays instead of hidding | 13:24 |
| seb128 | but it's in broken state, i.e it stops working | 13:24 |
| seb128 | 3- if you stop the indicator-application service when being in 2- gsd crashes | 13:24 |
| seb128 | mterry, bug #711749 | 13:26 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 711749 in indicator-application "layout indicator items are not being updated and not working" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711749 | 13:26 |
| seb128 | mterry, bug #712635 is the crash | 13:27 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 712635 in libappindicator "gnome-settings-daemon crashes with SIGSEGV in watcher_owner_changed()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712635 | 13:27 |
| seb128 | bug #712581 | 13:27 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 712581 in indicator-application "keyboard layout label is not updated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712581 | 13:27 |
| seb128 | mterry, check with kenvandine if he's working on those maybe | 13:27 |
| seb128 | but ted seems busy with features until feature freeze so I doubt he will | 13:27 |
| seb128 | ken seemed to be busy with other things | 13:27 |
| seb128 | so it's probably ok for you to grab those 2 | 13:28 |
| pitti | didrocks, Sweetshark: do you know if bug 705461 is actually a problem in LibO? it starts just fine in classic gnome, so it doesn't sound like a problem with the desktop files | 13:54 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 705461 in unity "LibreOffice won't launch from Unity Launcher" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/705461 | 13:54 |
| pitti | and we should certainly avoid having to patch apps to work with the launcher, as this woudl break an unknown number of third party apps | 13:55 |
| didrocks | pitti: it's starting from me there | 13:56 |
| pitti | not here | 13:56 |
| pitti | is there a log file to look into? | 13:56 |
| didrocks | pitti: maybe ~/.xsession-errors as it's where unity is pushing them | 13:56 |
| didrocks | (sorry, on the phone) | 13:56 |
| pitti | nothing at all in ~/.xsession when I try to start the writer | 13:57 |
| pitti | are the custom launchers (with "keep in launcher") accessible somewhere? like .desktop files in a dot-dir? | 13:58 |
| pitti | (not in ~/.local/share/unity) | 13:58 |
| didrocks | pitti: no, it's in the code | 14:00 |
| pitti | didrocks: I mean, where/how does it store the custom launchers? | 14:01 |
| didrocks | pitti: oh, it's a gsettings key, one sec | 14:03 |
| pitti | aah | 14:04 |
| pitti | $ gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites | 14:05 |
| pitti | ['nautilus.desktop', 'gtimelog.desktop', 'devhelp.desktop', 'mumble.desktop', 'shotwell.desktop', 'firefox.desktop', 'evolution.desktop'] | 14:05 |
| didrocks | right :) | 14:05 |
| pitti | hm, no writer.desktop.. | 14:05 |
| seb128 | pitti, how did you add to it? | 14:06 |
| seb128 | works fine for me as well | 14:06 |
| pitti | start writer, tick "keep in launcher", close writer, try to restart it again | 14:06 |
| pitti | seb128: do you have a writer.desktop in gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites ? | 14:06 |
| * bcurtiswx waves to room | 14:07 | |
| pitti | but I don't have a gtimelog.desktop anywhere in my ~ eitehr | 14:07 |
| pitti | so I take it it's using the one from /usr/share/applications/ | 14:07 |
| seb128 | pitti, libreoffice-writer.desktop | 14:08 |
| seb128 | in my gsettings | 14:08 |
| seb128 | I tried the same way as you | 14:08 |
| pitti | ok, so that looks like the problem | 14:08 |
| pitti | I tried twice | 14:08 |
| * pitti updates bug | 14:08 | |
| seb128 | pitti, how do you run the writer? | 14:09 |
| pitti | seb128: I used "open with..." on a .txt file | 14:09 |
| pitti | as there is no libreoffice-writer program or so which I could start from a terminal | 14:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, that doesn't work here either | 14:10 |
| seb128 | it doesn't get the right icon | 14:10 |
| pitti | that too | 14:10 |
| pitti | seb128: you previously tried with launching from your gnome-panel? | 14:10 |
| seb128 | yes | 14:10 |
| didrocks | sorry, back from a call | 14:11 |
| seb128 | so it works due to the gio integration | 14:11 |
| * didrocks backlogs | 14:11 | |
| seb128 | running "libreoffice -writer" manually doesn't work | 14:11 |
| seb128 | it's not even listed in the launcher | 14:11 |
| didrocks | yeah, bamf hasn't been update for libreoffice I think | 14:12 |
| didrocks | hence the wrong match | 14:12 |
| didrocks | and so not adding the right file | 14:12 |
| pitti | ah | 14:12 |
| pitti | seb128, didrocks: thanks, I updated the bug accordingly | 14:12 |
| seb128 | pitti, yw | 14:12 |
| didrocks | (there were some magic for OOo. I think it's still needed for libreO) | 14:12 |
| didrocks | yw | 14:13 |
| pitti | ah, presumably | 14:13 |
| pitti | didrocks: is that already in progress, or want me to look into this? | 14:13 |
| didrocks | pitti: it's not in progress for sure, if you want to look at it :) | 14:13 |
| didrocks | pitti: lp:bamf | 14:13 |
| pitti | and Vcs-Bzr: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/bamf/ubuntu, I take it | 14:14 |
| seb128 | pitti, does it work if you click on an odt? | 14:14 |
| pitti | seb128: still the same broken icon | 14:15 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, but better to fix it upstream and then bzr merge :) | 14:15 |
| pitti | nope | 14:15 |
| pitti | didrocks: sure | 14:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, so at least it's consistent | 14:16 |
| seb128 | it only works when ran from gnome-panel | 14:16 |
| seb128 | I'm wondering why the gio thing doesn't work from nautilus | 14:16 |
| didrocks | that's weird, right. Maybe it's not triggered by this g_app_info… | 14:17 |
| Amaranth | silly libreoffice still thinking it's an OS | 14:17 |
| didrocks | as there is the file one and the uri one | 14:17 |
| pitti | Amaranth: it can compete in size, anyway | 14:18 |
| Amaranth | pitti: It has its own everything and presents a windows 3.1-like interface to you if you don't start one of the specific sub-apps | 14:19 |
| pitti | I like how it still calls itself "soffice.bin" :) | 14:20 |
| Amaranth | hehe | 14:20 |
| Amaranth | hrm, I think unity just died | 14:20 |
| Amaranth | my launcher looks to be not doing the accordion thing and I can't click on anything | 14:21 |
| Amaranth | I blame libreoffice | 14:21 |
| pitti | I'm off for an hour | 14:23 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ^ see other people get "libreoffice screws unity" | 14:24 |
| didrocks | seb128: I totally trust you when you tell me you get a bug :) | 14:25 |
| seb128 | bug #709138 | 14:25 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 709138 in unity "unity gets really confused by office dialogs" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709138 | 14:25 |
| didrocks | just that I tried hard on the alt + click and the libreoffice one, but my machine wasn't cooperative ^^ | 14:25 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 14:25 |
| didrocks | seb128: time to use LaTeX? ;) | 14:26 |
| seb128 | oh, I don't use libreoffice don't worry | 14:26 |
| bratsche | ochosi: pong | 14:30 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, have you been able to test your xchat patch yet ? | 14:31 |
| bcurtiswx | im building both unity/libunity now and i can if you haven't yet | 14:31 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx, i did last night | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | there seems to be a launcher bug though | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx, http://ubuntuone.com/p/cVu/ | 14:33 |
| kenvandine | it works sometimes :) | 14:33 |
| kenvandine | DBO was thinks the launcher is losing its reference | 14:33 |
| kenvandine | so i can't clear it or change it after i set the count | 14:34 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, ah i was going to ask you like three questions, but you keep answering them before i finish typing them.. | 14:34 |
| bcurtiswx | so now i have none.. lol | 14:34 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, anything need to be done diff in your patch to xchat? | 14:35 |
| kenvandine | different than what i pasted to you yesterday? | 14:36 |
| kenvandine | lp:~ken-vandine/xchat-indicator/add_unity_launcher_support | 14:36 |
| bcurtiswx | thx | 14:36 |
| kenvandine | i think all i did since then was clean it up to make it optional | 14:36 |
| kenvandine | so you can build it with --disable-unity | 14:36 |
| bcurtiswx | lots of if #HAVEDEF | 14:37 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, i thought the stacking bug was fixed? | 14:40 |
| chrisccoulson | i just got it again | 14:40 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: not entirely | 14:40 |
| chrisccoulson | clicking on some windows and it was raising the ones behind it | 14:40 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: right | 14:40 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, nice. now the panel shadow appears on top of the panel | 14:41 |
| tjaalton | how do I force gnome-panel instead of unity? I've disabled the unity-plugin from ccsm, but I need to start gnome-panel after every login | 14:42 |
| chrisccoulson | tjaalton, select the classic desktop at GDM | 14:42 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, use classic desktop in the gdm sessions | 14:42 |
| tjaalton | chrisccoulson: ah, hrm, stupid me :P | 14:42 |
| tjaalton | "who would have guessed.." | 14:42 |
| tjaalton | thanks | 14:42 |
| chrisccoulson | maaaan, this is totally broken now | 14:43 |
| chrisccoulson | i can't click on the launcher or panel, because it just raises the shadow | 14:43 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: logout and login again :) | 14:43 |
| chrisccoulson | and i'm right in the middle of several big uploads | 14:43 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks ^^ | 14:43 |
| chrisccoulson | ;) | 14:43 |
| chrisccoulson | i need to wait for my uploads to finish | 14:43 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: restart "unity" | 14:43 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, that made it worse | 14:43 |
| didrocks | weird, metacity --replace then :) | 14:44 |
| chrisccoulson | that's how i got the shadows on top of the launcher in the first place ;) | 14:44 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'll try starting metacity and gnome-panel | 14:44 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, i would start metacity if i could focus my terminal | 14:45 |
| * chrisccoulson throws laptop out of the window | 14:45 | |
| chrisccoulson | oh, i started metacity from a console | 14:46 |
| chrisccoulson | now i just have a load of corruption where the launcher and panel shadows were | 14:46 |
| chrisccoulson | it's totally broken now | 14:46 |
| * chrisccoulson waits for uploads to finish | 14:47 | |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: kill the unity-window-decorator | 14:47 |
| alecu | chrisccoulson, if you can't focus on X, then try switching to a vt with Ctrl-Alt-F1 | 14:47 |
| didrocks | and run the gtk-window-decorator | 14:47 |
| alecu | chrisccoulson, then log in, and run "DISPLAY:0 metacity --replace & gnome-panel &" | 14:48 |
| chrisccoulson | alecu, that's what i did, but it's just left me with a load of corruption | 14:48 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, that didn't work :( | 14:48 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, this is what i have now: http://people.canonical.com/~chrisccoulson/baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.png | 14:50 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: sorry, I'm in a middle of updating part of unity… | 14:50 |
| alecu | chrisccoulson, are you using the ati open source driver? | 14:51 |
| chrisccoulson | alecu, intel | 14:51 |
| alecu | chrisccoulson, oh, right. Well, I had similar launcher drawing issues with the ati driver, but they seem fixed right now. | 14:53 |
| * bcurtiswx didn't realize how long nux takes to make | 14:55 | |
| rodrigo_ | ugh, almost 2 hours pushing a branch (branched from lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-icon-theme/ubuntu) to a ~gnome3-team branch | 14:58 |
| rodrigo_ | something's wrong it seems | 14:59 |
| chrisccoulson | that's better, i have my screen back | 15:01 |
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| seb128 | kenvandine, hey | 15:41 |
| kenvandine | hey seb128 | 15:41 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, so new indicator-datetime tarball? | 15:42 |
| kenvandine | yes | 15:42 |
| seb128 | it's showing on version since yesterday | 15:42 |
| kenvandine | about to upload | 15:42 |
| seb128 | when is it coming to distro? ;-) | 15:42 |
| seb128 | great! | 15:42 |
| kenvandine | can't do an install test until textlive finishes downloading :/ | 15:42 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, btw I reassigned this libappindicator g-s-d icon updating issue to mterry | 15:42 |
| kenvandine | huge! | 15:42 |
| kenvandine | thx | 15:43 |
| seb128 | seems you have enough other things to do | 15:43 |
| seb128 | yw | 15:43 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, why do you need tex to build it? | 15:43 |
| kenvandine | not for it | 15:43 |
| kenvandine | patch pilot | 15:43 |
| seb128 | oh ok | 15:43 |
| kenvandine | sponsoring | 15:43 |
| kenvandine | so for something else :) | 15:43 |
| seb128 | k, makes sense | 15:44 |
| ochosi | bratsche: sorry, was away before | 15:45 |
| ochosi | bratsche: i wanted to ask you something about the resize-grips in natty | 15:45 |
| bratsche | ochosi: Sure. | 15:46 |
| ochosi | bratsche: to be more concrete: (why can't i/how) can i deactivate the resize-grip with "GtkWindow ::has-resize-grip=0" in my gtkrc and apply that to a GtkWindow | 15:47 |
| ochosi | (i also tried "GtkWidget ::has...") | 15:47 |
| bratsche | ochosi: Because has-resize-grip is a property on GtkWindow, not a style property. | 15:48 |
| seb128 | re, urg crashed my session | 15:48 |
| ochosi | bratsche: so that means it can only be fixed in the sources of the programmes that have problems? | 15:49 |
| bratsche | ochosi: I've never tried doing this so I don't know if it will work. But try setting resize-grip-width and resize-grip-height to 0. | 15:49 |
| ochosi | bratsche: but would that affect the resize-grip area as well? | 15:50 |
| ochosi | bratsche: because i was also considering setting the resize-grip to a 1px empty pixmap | 15:50 |
| bratsche | You'll just have to experiment and see if it does anything. I've never tried messing with those. | 15:51 |
| ochosi | okeydokey | 15:51 |
| bratsche | Otherwise if you want to disable it, you'd have to do it per-application. | 15:51 |
| ochosi | okay, well mr_pouit was kind enough to do that for xfdesktop (which really shouldn't have a resize grip) | 15:52 |
| ochosi | do you generally take care of resize-grip bugreports like that, meaning: does it even make sense to report such issues? | 15:52 |
| bratsche | Sure, it's nice to get bug reports. | 15:53 |
| bratsche | In most cases it's a 1-line patch to fix it. It just takes a little time to track down where to put that 1 line. :) | 15:53 |
| ochosi | yeah, well, that depends. if a close button is hidden by the resize-grip it might not be as trivial as a "set-has-resize-grip=0" | 15:54 |
| ochosi | e.g. with firefox in natty the lower scrollbar-arrow is hidden if there is only a vertical scrollbar | 15:55 |
| ochosi | with both scrollbars you seem to have fixed it already | 15:55 |
| bratsche | Right, that's why I say "in most cases". :) | 15:55 |
| ochosi | i also wanted to mention one more thing, even though it's a bit trivial: | 15:55 |
| ochosi | if you use a new theme, all open windows that have close-buttons have the grip overlaying them, this fixes itself only on application restart | 15:56 |
| ochosi | s/use a new theme/switch theme | 15:57 |
| bcurtiswx | rodrigo_, i gor the same error in G-Icon-Theme and gave up.. | 16:15 |
| bcurtiswx | got* | 16:15 |
| rodrigo_ | bcurtiswx, hmm, when pushing the branch? | 16:17 |
| chrisccoulson | my daughter is obsessed with putting random objects in to mugs of tea | 16:17 |
| davmor2 | chrisccoulson: hide the lead soldiers | 16:18 |
| ricotz | rodrigo_, hi :), why arent you using the current debian packaging as base | 16:18 |
| rodrigo_ | ricotz, hmm, I am just updating the gnome3 branches | 16:19 |
| ricotz | rodrigo_, ok, i mean gnome-icon-theme | 16:19 |
| pitti | didrocks, seb128: \o/ LibO tamed | 16:19 |
| pitti | took a bit longer than expected, though | 16:20 |
| didrocks | pitti: already? | 16:20 |
| didrocks | well, nice! | 16:20 |
| rodrigo_ | ricotz, oh, yes I guess I should get the debian package | 16:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, bamf code to updated to special case as it did for openoffice? | 16:20 |
| ricotz | rodrigo_, would be better ;) | 16:20 |
| pitti | seb128: right; it just needed some small adaptions to actually work | 16:20 |
| seb128 | ok, great | 16:21 |
| seb128 | you might be able to get it merged in today's release | 16:21 |
| seb128 | check with Jason or didrocks | 16:21 |
| didrocks | right, it's still time for today :) | 16:22 |
| didrocks | pitti: just point it to DBO :) | 16:22 |
| pitti | pushing, pushing | 16:22 |
| bcurtiswx | rodrigo_, no this FTBFS error it has | 16:24 |
| pitti | DBO: https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/bamf/libreoffice-705461/+merge/49245 for your reviewing pleasure :) | 16:25 |
| DBO | pitti, you fixed bamf for libreoffice? | 16:25 |
| pitti | DBO: right | 16:25 |
| pitti | it's one of our alpha-3 bugs | 16:26 |
| DBO | pitti, you sir are my favorite person in the world | 16:26 |
| pitti | DBO: that would still be didrocks, I guess | 16:26 |
| didrocks | DBO: what??? | 16:26 |
| DBO | no didrocks had his time | 16:26 |
| * didrocks is disappointed ;) | 16:26 | |
| pitti | but as a heavy Office user *cough* *cough* it was my pleasure | 16:26 |
| didrocks | pitti: ahah, as if we could believe you :) | 16:27 |
| pitti | hey, I started it at least three times last year for testing, plus perhaps two times when people send me funny presentations :) | 16:27 |
| DBO | pitti, approved :) | 16:27 |
| pitti | DBO: yay; do you merge this as well, or do you have a four-eyes review process? | 16:28 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I guess if you merge it for pitti you can maybe be pitti's favourite person in the world ;-) | 16:28 |
| pitti | so I can scratch off one more bug from our desktop RC bugs for tomorrow's meeting | 16:28 |
| DBO | pitti, you dont have commit rights? | 16:28 |
| pitti | DBO: dunno, let me check | 16:28 |
| DBO | if you dont you should | 16:28 |
| didrocks | seb128: quick quick, merging :) | 16:29 |
| seb128 | DBO, not likely, it's restricted to the unity team no? | 16:29 |
| pitti | I fixed something in the past | 16:29 |
| pitti | but that was in the old world | 16:29 |
| pitti | didrocks: nope | 16:29 |
| pitti | I mean: DBO: nope | 16:29 |
| DBO | seb128, yeah but he does enough crap with it he really should | 16:29 |
| didrocks | DBO: do you me to handle the release? I think njpatel is already busy | 16:29 |
| pitti | argh tab damage, fixing | 16:29 |
| DBO | pitti, merged | 16:29 |
| didrocks | want* | 16:30 |
| DBO | didrocks, yes please new favorite person again | 16:30 |
| pitti | DBO: please merge again to fix tab->space | 16:30 |
| didrocks | DBO is versatile :) | 16:30 |
| * ricotz thinks he should have looked into this libreoffice thing ;) | 16:30 | |
| DBO | pitti, merged again | 16:31 |
| pitti | DBO: cheers! | 16:31 |
| DBO | hey ricotz | 16:31 |
| DBO | ricotz, I cant reproduce your crash yet | 16:31 |
| DBO | I am trying to | 16:31 |
| didrocks | ok, pushing libunity and releasing bamf | 16:31 |
| DBO | sweet | 16:31 |
| ricotz | DBO, yeah, done this half a year ago for docky ;) | 16:31 |
| ricotz | DBO, i think the new glib,dbus versions might solved it | 16:32 |
| DBO | ah | 16:32 |
| mvo | hey DBO - so tremolux implemented the launcher integration in s-c its IMO ready to upload. would that help you ? or should we wait until you get a chnace to actually implement your bits (i.e. to you want to work against our branch) | 16:33 |
| ricotz | DBO, havent ran it very constantly in the last time | 16:33 |
| DBO | mvo, let me implement my bits first :) | 16:34 |
| mvo | DBO: ok | 16:34 |
| DBO | mvo, I am doing it today since my other major work item is being handled well | 16:35 |
| didrocks | seb128: pitti: what the policy regarding new binary package? should we let other make the review? (I mean, don't hack our own new bin pakage?) | 16:35 |
| didrocks | ack* | 16:35 |
| mvo | DBO: ok, just shout when we shall enable it in s-c | 16:36 |
| pitti | didrocks: for the sake of peer review, yes; want me to review one? | 16:36 |
| DBO | mvo, can I have the branch link again? | 16:36 |
| didrocks | pitti: will ping you once it's built | 16:36 |
| seb128 | didrocks, no strong policy but we tend to let someone else do the review just for safety | 16:36 |
| didrocks | sure, I prefer to check :) | 16:36 |
| tremolux | DBO: it's this guy: lp:~gary-lasker/software-center/launcher-integration | 16:36 |
| DBO | tremolux, thanks | 16:36 |
| seb128 | didrocks, but I usually consider binaries obvious enough to NEW that I do it for my own uploads if nobody is around | 16:37 |
| tremolux | DBO: sure thing :) | 16:37 |
| didrocks | ok, let's see when it's buillt :) | 16:37 |
| didrocks | built* | 16:38 |
| pitti | now we just need a pygobject upstream release, and the world will be good again | 16:38 |
| didrocks | o O (nvidia driver… nvidia driver…) | 16:39 |
| DBO | something must be giving them problems | 16:39 |
| seb128 | pitti, btw debian updated gobject-introspection, do we have any diff worth keeping? | 16:40 |
| pitti | seb128: nope, all patches are upstream | 16:40 |
| DBO | I wonder if it has anything to do with the new position nvidia is advertising | 16:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, should I just sync it then? | 16:40 |
| zyga | mvo, ping | 16:40 |
| pitti | seb128: I also sorted out the pygobject mess with upstream; next upstream release and we are free of patches again, too | 16:40 |
| pitti | seb128: sync away; thanks! | 16:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks | 16:40 |
| mvo | hey zyga | 16:41 |
| pitti | seb128: we found a solution to fix the ref leaks for GI and not break pygtk at the same time | 16:41 |
| zyga | mvo, I have a quick question if you can answer, in the piston mini client there are a few nice decorators for validating arguments and return types, is this part of the client or is there some nice library I can use to get that? | 16:41 |
| seb128 | pitti, nice! | 16:41 |
| zyga | mvo, I saw that during the tech talk about piston a few days ago | 16:41 |
| seb128 | pitti, seems gi is in a solid state now ;-) | 16:41 |
| pitti | seb128: it's a bloody hack, it "emulates" the bug that pygtk was relying on now, but only in the stable branch | 16:41 |
| pitti | seb128: yeah; GTK git head has zero introspection errors/warnings from g-ir-scanner now \o/ | 16:42 |
| pitti | (i. e. 3.0 final will) | 16:42 |
| mvo | zyga: its part of the client, what you can use it from there | 16:42 |
| pitti | 2.0 is of course still buggy, but works enough for our purposes | 16:42 |
| pitti | speaking of mvo, I need to get back to software-properties-gtk pygi | 16:43 |
| zyga | mvo, is it bound to the client or will it just work even without using any of the piston-related parts? | 16:43 |
| mvo | zyga: you could use them standalone I image, its just kwargs based, check the bzr tree and "validators.py" there | 16:44 |
| zyga | mvo, thanks | 16:44 |
| mvo | yw | 16:44 |
| dpm | hi pitti, so here's the feedback on the Lucid langpack testing, these can be uploaded to -updates: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LanguagePackUpdatesQA - unfortunately the teams for the langauges on the CD haven't provided feedback yet | 16:54 |
| pitti | dpm: thanks! I'll test en and de tomorrow | 16:54 |
| pitti | dpm: can you reset the Finnish one? or is the updated package still broken? | 16:54 |
| * pitti -> dinner, bll | 16:54 | |
| pitti | bbl | 16:55 |
| dpm | pitti, I'll remove it from there for now, as there hasn't been new feedback, but I'll ask the Finnish translators to have another look | 16:56 |
| ari-tczew | didrocks: around? | 16:56 |
| didrocks | ari-tczew: right, but quite busy with unity release | 16:57 |
| ari-tczew | didrocks: have you got installed glew? | 16:57 |
| didrocks | ari-tczew: yeah | 16:58 |
| ari-tczew | didrocks: Debian has packaged new upstream release 1.5.8, could you try to install it? | 16:58 |
| didrocks | ari-tczew: not now, why? | 16:58 |
| didrocks | ari-tczew: I really can't, in the middle of tons of things | 16:58 |
| ari-tczew | didrocks: there was regression and bryceh has downgraded glew to 1.5.2 due to unity | 16:59 |
| didrocks | ari-tczew: right, but the regression was for intel card | 16:59 |
| didrocks | I'm on nvidia | 16:59 |
| ari-tczew | didrocks: I too | 17:01 |
| didrocks | ari-tczew: I don't follow you, what do you try to achieve? | 17:01 |
| ari-tczew | didrocks: btw. I'm not happy due to ignoring my sync requests (not grievances to you) bug 715519 | 17:02 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 715519 in libnice "Sync libnice 0.1.0-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/715519 | 17:02 |
| didrocks | why can't you try to install it on your bug? | 17:02 |
| didrocks | ari-tczew: did you read my comment? | 17:02 |
| didrocks | ari-tczew: I haven't done the upload | 17:02 |
| ari-tczew | didrocks: I know robert ancell has uploaded it without looking on bugs | 17:02 |
| seb128 | I did sync it | 17:03 |
| seb128 | he dropped me an email with half a dozen sources to sync | 17:03 |
| seb128 | or rather 5 of those | 17:03 |
| ari-tczew | didrocks: maybe glew 1.5.8 regression with intel has gone | 17:03 |
| didrocks | ari-tczew: maybe, I think it's better to see with #ubuntu-x guys | 17:04 |
| ari-tczew | seb128: so many thanks for making community as second queue | 17:04 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks - the glew regression affected everybody not using nvidia i think (including ati users) | 17:04 |
| seb128 | ari-tczew, ? | 17:05 |
| ricotz | didrocks, hi, perhaps you can look into this vapi thing for bamf when doing a new release | 17:05 |
| seb128 | ari-tczew, not sure what your issue is | 17:05 |
| dpm | pitti, (when you're back or tomorrow). Looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/language-pack-en/+changelog it seems that the language pack uploads were not reenabled after the A2 freeze. Do you think you could reenable them? Thanks! | 17:05 |
| didrocks | ricotz: too late, release is done | 17:05 |
| seb128 | ari-tczew, we do syncs and upload daily, he requested that sync before you | 17:05 |
| ari-tczew | seb128: nope | 17:05 |
| ari-tczew | seb128: requestsync finds already reported bugs for sync | 17:05 |
| ricotz | didrocks, ok :/ | 17:06 |
| didrocks | ricotz: still introspection issue with bamf last time I checked, but I'll look for next release, is there a bug report? | 17:06 |
| seb128 | ari-tczew, there was no bug, he gave me a list to sync | 17:06 |
| ari-tczew | seb128: this is long way discussion about relation canonical - community | 17:06 |
| seb128 | ari-tczew, we tend to do that since it spares paper work and time | 17:06 |
| seb128 | ari-tczew, it has nothing to do with canonical | 17:07 |
| ricotz | didrocks, i think there isnt a bug -- but if there is no introspection it could be disabled for real in the packaging | 17:07 |
| seb128 | ari-tczew, you would have synced community requests the same way | 17:07 |
| ari-tczew | seb128: I would don't wasting my time | 17:08 |
| didrocks | ricotz: just report a bug, we should fix it | 17:08 |
| seb128 | ari-tczew, well maybe check what would be usefult do rather than trying to get every debian update synced or merged without a solid reason | 17:09 |
| ari-tczew | seb128: weak point, because the same from robert | 17:10 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: that's what DIF is for, to stop random syncs and only sync stuff with a good reason, otherwise there wouldn't be a DIF | 17:11 |
| ari-tczew | aaaaaaha, and now I'm this bad | 17:12 |
| ari-tczew | very nice | 17:12 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: not at all, just giving you a more detailed explanation to your question | 17:13 |
| ari-tczew | this is called "be appreciated" by ubuntu | 17:13 |
| seb128 | ari-tczew, well maybe you could check what work would be useful before starting on something? | 17:13 |
| ari-tczew | seb128: why do you doubt, if you did this one for robert? | 17:13 |
| seb128 | doubt of what? | 17:14 |
| seb128 | it's rather checking that things you start on are not already being worked by someone else | 17:15 |
| ari-tczew | of useful | 17:15 |
| bcurtiswx | hmm ubuntu.com down | 17:16 |
| ari-tczew | maybe this is my fault, as everything ^^ | 17:17 |
| bcurtiswx | back up | 17:22 |
| bcurtiswx | they chaged it to the welcoming version of the chinese version of Ubuntu | 17:22 |
| didrocks | seb128: around for acking libunity new binary package? | 17:31 |
| rodrigo_ | time for a break, later all | 17:35 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yeah, can do | 17:37 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks :) | 17:37 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yw | 17:44 |
| Sweetshark | Riddell: they caught us talking around 3:20 if I am not mistaken ... http://cubestuff.wordpress.com/2011/02/09/fosdem-2k11-a-film-about-fosdem-the-free-and-open-source-developers-european-meeting/ | 17:45 |
| Riddell | see that everyone, Sweetshark really exists! :) | 17:47 |
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| pitti | tremolux: there's a new tzdata 2011b, FYI | 18:04 |
| pitti | tremolux: just heared yesterday in the news that Russia will abandon the DST switch, maybe that was the reason :) | 18:04 |
| tremolux | pitti: yep, I saw it :) | 18:05 |
| pitti | mvo: got a minute to discuss software-properties? | 18:06 |
| tremolux | pitti: I was going to process it once it had been packaged in debian, but I don't need to wait | 18:06 |
| pitti | tremolux: it just landed in sid | 18:06 |
| pitti | unfortunately slangasek now modified it in natty, so it needs a merge | 18:07 |
| tremolux | pitti: ah! ok, thx! | 18:07 |
| tremolux | pitti: yes, I noticed that too | 18:07 |
| pitti | haven't asked him about submitting this to debian | 18:07 |
| seb128 | pitti, hey | 18:10 |
| seb128 | pitti, have you time to review libunity in NEW? | 18:10 |
| pitti | sure | 18:11 |
| seb128 | pitti, I've to run for sport in 10 minutes and I'm trying to finish 2 discussion and something else I'm still working on | 18:11 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks | 18:11 |
| pitti | I'll be off in 15 mins, too | 18:12 |
| pitti | didrocks: NEWed the gir to main for i386/amd64; feel free to NEW the armel/powerpc ones when they land | 18:13 |
| didrocks | pitti: thanks :) | 18:14 |
| pitti | didrocks: and yes, that was a trivial one, doesn't need peer review really | 18:14 |
| pitti | sometimes they are more complex, and peer review is good for checking conflicts: fields, etc. | 18:14 |
| didrocks | pitti: ok, will know for future :) | 18:14 |
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| pitti | mvo: asked my question in https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/software-properties/pygi/+merge/47463 now | 18:20 |
| pitti | tremolux: nice, Debian just got a tzdata -2 with our recent change, so we can sync again | 18:24 |
| tremolux | pitti: woo! | 18:24 |
| pitti | good night everyone! | 18:25 |
| bcurtiswx | nite pitti | 18:26 |
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| === smspillaz|sleepi is now known as smspillaz|asleep | ||
| mvo | pitti: sorry, was at dinner, I will look into the merge proposal | 20:26 |
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| cyphermox | kenvandine, ping | 23:23 |
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