[10:02] <NCommander> does anyone know where the flash-kernel bzr branch vanished to ?
[10:03] <NCommander> oh, nm, found it
[14:04] <CIA-4> grub-installer: cjwatson * r1197 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog grub-installer): Canonicalise device names printed by 'mdadm --detail' (LP: #695842).
[14:16] <CIA-4> grub-installer: cjwatson * r1198 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.60ubuntu1
[14:31] <annunaki2k2> cjwatson: here
[14:32] <cjwatson> annunaki2k2: ok, so given that sudo is in the base system, you can't easily insert before it, which is what I was hoping
[14:32] <cjwatson> annunaki2k2: so I think the most straightforward approach would be to not use pkgsel/include for this package, and instead do it by hand slightly afterwards
[14:33] <cjwatson> annunaki2k2: something like this should work:  d-i preseed/late_command string SUDO_FORCE_REMOVE=1 apt-install sudo-ldap
[14:34] <annunaki2k2> cjwatson: ahh, brilliant idea!
[14:34] <annunaki2k2> cjwatson: think I'll give that a try right now - again (sadly) it takes a long time to get to that point in the installation, but it'll be worth the wait
[14:35] <annunaki2k2> cjwatson: is it worth me filing a bug on this one as well?
[14:38] <cjwatson> as on #debian-boot, I think there should be a bug that this behaviour of sudo is only controllable in the environment and not by debconf preseeding, yes
[14:39] <annunaki2k2> thanks - I'll file one shortly
[14:58] <CIA-4> grub-installer: cjwatson * r1173 lucid-proposed/ (debian/changelog grub-installer): Canonicalise device names printed by 'mdadm --detail' (LP: #695842).
[15:18] <annunaki2k2> cjwatson: unfortunately that didn't work.
[15:18] <annunaki2k2> cjwatson: There is a different error this time: "Packages need to be removed but remove is disabled."
[15:18] <cjwatson> oh, drat, sorry
[15:19] <annunaki2k2> no problems - I appreciate any help, even if it doesn't work :-)
[15:19] <cjwatson> in that case
[15:19] <cjwatson> firstly, don't reboot yet
[15:20] <annunaki2k2> haven't - but have grabbed syslog in case you'd like it again
[15:20] <cjwatson> it's OK, I know what the problem is
[15:21] <cjwatson> d-i preseed/late_command string SUDO_FORCE_REMOVE=1 debconf-apt-progress --no-progress --logstderr -- apt-get -q -y install sudo-ldap
[15:21] <cjwatson> tedious :-/
[15:21] <cjwatson> er, blast, still wrong
[15:22] <cjwatson> d-i preseed/late_command string in-target sh -c 'SUDO_FORCE_REMOVE=1 debconf-apt-progress --no-progress --logstderr -- apt-get -q -y install sudo-ldap'
[15:22] <cjwatson> I think I'm going to change apt-install to have an --allow-remove option so that  SUDO_FORCE_REMOVE=1 apt-install --allow-remove sudo-ldap  would be sufficient - that incantation is fairly ridiculous
[15:23] <annunaki2k2> ok, I can add that to the preseed, but you said do not reboot. Can I assume there is a way to implement that straight away?
[15:23] <annunaki2k2> that's a fair point, but then again, it's great to know there is a work around all the same
[15:24] <cjwatson> if you hadn't rebooted then you could have tested it out from the shell on alt-f2, which would be quicker
[15:24] <cjwatson> easier to iterate that way
[15:25] <annunaki2k2> so you mean just run the command in shell command? I have not rebooted it yet
[15:25] <cjwatson> ah, I misread
[15:25] <cjwatson> yeah, just type everything from "in-target" onwards into the shell
[15:28] <annunaki2k2> unfortunately: "sh: debconf-apt-progress: not found"
[15:28] <annunaki2k2> I have tried /usr/bin/debconf-apt-progress too, but it does the same
[15:29] <cjwatson> uh, that's fairly odd
[15:29] <cjwatson> you've definitely got all the quotes right and included the in-target bit?
[15:29] <cjwatson> 15:28 <CIA-3> cjwatson * r230f451 debian-installer-utils/ (README apt-install debian/changelog): Add an --allow-remove option to apt-install, which inhibits passing --no-remove to apt-get.
[15:30] <annunaki2k2> and if i run only whats in the quotes I get the same
[15:31] <annunaki2k2> yes, fairly sure I have it all correctly typed
[15:32] <annunaki2k2> This is the netboot installer - does that make a difference? Where in the busybox shell should debconf-..... be located?
[15:33] <annunaki2k2> is it okay to call the one inside "/target"?
[15:36] <annunaki2k2> scratch that - just explicitly specified /target/usr/bin/debconf-apt-progress and that didn't help
[15:36] <annunaki2k2> same error
[15:37] <annunaki2k2> In fact, when I run /target/usr/bin/debconf-apt-progress with no parameters, it still says "not found"
[15:38] <cjwatson> that would not work at all
[15:38] <cjwatson> in-target is a wrapper for chroot /target so you should not have /target in the path
[15:38] <annunaki2k2> ok - just trying anyway
[15:39] <cjwatson> what does 'echo $PATH' say at the busybox shell?
[15:39] <cjwatson> running only what is in the quotes would fail miserably, fwiw
[15:39] <cjwatson> and it doesn't make a difference that this is the netboot installer
[15:40] <cjwatson> can you confirm (with ls) that /target/usr/bin/debconf-apt-progress exists?
[15:40] <CIA-4> usb-creator: evand * r336 usb-creator/ (7 files in 7 dirs): Add the ability to test freshly written disks in KVM.
[15:40] <annunaki2k2> right, having said that in-target was a wrapper to chroot makes some sense now. When you said 'from "in-target" onwards' I ran the "sh -c ....." bit only. Prefixing in-target works....
[15:40] <annunaki2k2> ...sorry for that
[15:42] <cjwatson> ah, yes, I meant inclusive
[15:43] <cjwatson> ok, so if that works and results in sudo-ldap being installed in /target, you should be able to add that to your preseed and test from scratch
[15:46] <annunaki2k2> yes, well it hasn't come back with any errors expect ones that I think are only relating to having to run in "noninteractive mode". Adding to the preseed file and trying anyway...
[16:37] <annunaki2k2> cjwatson: it has worked perfectly - thank you so much for your help
[16:48] <cjwatson> oh good, you're welcome
[17:30] <ev> hm, is it just me or do our instructions for writing Ubuntu to a USB disk on Mac not work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/565473/
[17:31] <ev> looking at http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man1/hdiutil.1.html I don't see how hdiutil would actually write boot code to the MBR, and even then, Mac wouldn't boot it as it doesn't support anything but EFI from USB devices.
[19:40] <gswallow> Hello, all.
[19:42] <gswallow> I would like to exclude deb-src lines in my /etc/apt/sources.list file when I automatically install ubuntu.  Is this possible without having to resort to preseed/late?  Is there an apt-setup quesiton that I'm not aware of (and is there an easy way to figure out where these apt-setup options are?)
[19:42] <gswallow> Thanks.
[19:44] <cjwatson> there is no way to preseed that away other than preseed/late_command, sorry
[19:44] <gswallow> fair enough.
[19:44] <gswallow> thanks again!
[19:52] <CIA-4> grub-installer: cjwatson * r1174 lucid-proposed/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.49ubuntu11.2
[19:52] <CIA-4> grub-installer: cjwatson * r1187 maverick-proposed/ (debian/changelog grub-installer): Canonicalise device names printed by 'mdadm --detail' (LP: #695842).
[19:53] <CIA-4> grub-installer: cjwatson * r1188 maverick-proposed/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.55ubuntu4.1
[20:13] <CIA-4> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1410 ubuntu/ (5 files in 2 dirs): merge lp:~apw/debian-installer/kernel-update
[21:42] <CIA-4> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1411 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20101020ubuntu15