/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/02/10/#ubuntu-my.txt

=== ApOgEE__ is now known as ApOgEE
=== KatieKitty is now known as Katie-Offline
ApOgEEselamat petang08:30
sweemenghttp://openfarmtech.org/wiki/Global_Village_Construction_Set08:38
ApOgEEsalam mnajem09:36
mnajemsalaam09:37
ApOgEEeheh09:42
ApOgEEsepi je IRC ni...09:43
ApOgEEtak semeriah dulu09:43
ApOgEEsemuanya sibuk bekerja demi menyara anak isteri09:44
sweemengbiasala09:44
sweemenglagi pun berapa yang masih guna irc09:44
ApOgEEtu la sweemeng ... ko keje kat mana sekarang?09:44
ApOgEEatau bisnes kenchang?09:44
sweemengPJ09:44
sweemengprogrammer09:44
sweemenglepas lama jadi programmer09:44
sweemengrasa nak jadi tauke kedai komputer pulak09:45
ApOgEEsweemeng: keje ngan orang ke masih berdikari (keje sendiri)?09:45
sweemengtak09:45
sweemengcentury software09:45
sweemengyang selalu di conference too09:45
ApOgEEapa yg tak?... tak keje ngan orang?09:46
ApOgEEooo.. kampeni sendiri nama century software ka?09:46
sweemengkerje kat kompeni orang lain la09:47
* sweemeng is now a programmer with a real boss on top09:47
ApOgEEoooo... aku ingatkan ko boss sendiri09:48
ApOgEEitu hari bukanke ko dah jadi boss sendiri?09:48
ApOgEEapa yang berlaku?09:48
sweemengmereka mcm tak ada tujuan yang confirm la09:50
sweemengeverything look like a moving target09:50
* sweemeng sekarang, kerja dulu, simpan duit, then tgk cam ne09:51
ApOgEEooo...09:52
ApOgEEko buat program apa?09:52
sweemengbut duit semua masuk gadget lol09:52
sweemengpython09:52
sweemengfinancial app09:53
ApOgEEpython?... running kat gadget gak ke?09:56
sweemengtak de09:56
sweemengnevermind that09:56
sweemengApOgEE, sekarang belajar python di android saya09:57
sweemenghttp://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/09:57
ApOgEEapa yg boleh dihasilkan dgn scripting kat android tu?09:58
sweemengbanyak juga09:59
ApOgEEboleh buat apps?...09:59
ApOgEEsocket app?... irc?09:59
sweemengyeah09:59
sweemenghttp://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/wiki/ApiReference09:59
sweemengcontoh yang mereka bagi guna module python seperti biasa10:00
ApOgEEok, aku tunggu sweemengIRC utk android... ;)10:00
ApOgEEkalo release nanti jgn lupa kasitau aku10:00
sweemengdan mereka guna module Android10:00
sweemenglol10:00
sweemenguntuk gps10:00
sweemengblue tooth dan sebagai nya10:00
ApOgEEmenarik10:01
ApOgEEsayangnya, aku belum ada android... kumpul duit nak buat bisnes... takleh beli gadget10:02
sweemenggood for you10:02
ApOgEEsweemeng, scripting tu boleh play around dengan calls?10:02
sweemengtak try lagi10:03
sweemengsaya sedang belajar10:03
ApOgEEkalau orang call, boleh buat answering machine ke...10:03
sweemengsaya pun tak tau boleh ke tak10:03
ApOgEEhuhuhu... kalo aku ada gadget tu, aku nak cubalah... buat answering machine10:03
ApOgEEtekan satu untuk merepek, tekan dua untuk membeli kerepek10:04
sweemenglol10:04
sweemengbaik guna asterisk10:04
ApOgEEkalo aku enable apps tu, mesti orang tanak call aku dah...10:04
ApOgEEasterisk tak best... hari2 aku dah main10:04
ApOgEEada asterisk utk android?10:05
sweemengtak de10:05
ApOgEEhuhu10:05
sweemengsaya rasa pun tak boleh call orang or terima call10:05
ApOgEEeh?10:06
ApOgEEkenapa?10:06
sweemengbaru saya baca api nya10:06
sweemenghttp://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/wiki/ApiReferencehttp://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/wiki/ApiReference#phoneCall10:06
sweemenghttp://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/wiki/ApiReference#phoneCall10:06
* sweemeng meanwhile, brb10:06
ApOgEEooo10:08
mnajemw00t w00t10:20
* mnajem waiting to pick up wife at LRT10:20
mnajemand reheat last nite frozen soto soup10:20
mnajemforgot to eat this morning10:20
kaeruApOgEE: self-funded business is tough. 10:23
* kaeru should share our experience sometime10:23
sweemengafter the foss distro workshop10:27
sweemengwe should have foss business workshop10:27
kaeruthough our model is not easy to replicate10:27
kaerubuilding human/org capacity10:28
kaeruis really hard10:28
sweemenghere is some interesting possibly related topic10:28
sweemengso the company is introducing hudson to the team10:28
sweemengother team anyway10:29
sweemengit took them time to learn it, because, they are not ready10:29
sweemengand my australian boss is like wondering why the dev is not happy10:29
sweemengagain, the business is not ready10:29
kaeruyes10:30
sweemengkaeru, it possibly that, malaysian generally not quite ready for the models10:30
sweemengthe hacker business model10:30
* kaeru disagree10:30
sweemengpossibly due to who i dealt with in the project10:30
kaerubecause of brain drain10:30
sweemengso i might be biased10:30
sweemengkaeru, that too10:31
kaeru.my is not ready for human capital intensive work10:31
kaeruyou just can't do stuff10:31
kaeruie. say you need networking10:31
kaeruyou're a software dev/sysadmin what have you10:31
kaeruin .my10:31
kaeruyou can't depend on contractor to do wiring properly10:31
sweemengyeah10:31
kaeruso you'll have to waste time10:31
kaeruwiring guy can't depend on suppliers 10:32
kaeruand so on..10:32
* sweemeng can feel ya10:32
* sweemeng looking at the company sysadmin.......10:32
kaeruit's not that we don't have really smart people10:32
kaeruwe do10:32
kaerusmart and creative10:32
sweemengbut they're gone10:32
sweemengthanks to a variety of reason10:33
kaerujust that the brain drain causes everyone to be sucked down10:33
kaerueg. ApOgEE here probably knows more about color printing processes than 95% of "professional" print shops in Malaysia10:34
sweemengtrue10:34
* sweemeng sometime thinks what left of the geeks is really the foss guys10:35
sweemengthough really i know it is not true10:35
sweemengeither way10:35
sweemengbrb10:35
* kaeru heading home10:35
kaeruheh.. walks home 10:35
kaeruI can see the poor suckers wasting time on federal highway jam out the window10:36
kaeruagain.. bad public transport -> people wasting lives in highway jams10:36
yuskhanzabsalam..11:46
sweemeng__http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog15:53
sweemeng__ubuntu hardware component catalog16:00
=== Katie-Offline is now known as KatieKitty

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