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dpmgood morning all07:53
gtriderxchi07:54
gtriderxcI have a question. I'm translating GRUB and have some problems with HASH. 4 example "Specify hash to use." does this hash have anything in common with encryption or is it any other kind of #?08:21
gtriderxcanyway is the GRUB the best choice? does anybody see something more important here: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+lang/pl08:27
gtriderxcfor I have no more ideas08:28
dpmlet me have a look...08:40
dpmgtriderxc, that looks great, it seems the Polish team is rocking it! You'll soon have more strings to translate in that first page, since unity will get some new strings soon. As per what to translate next, here are two suggestions: complete the 2nd page -> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+lang/pl/+index?start=75&batch=75 especially gnome-session-2.0, which has got several Ubuntu-specific strings, and gbrainy. Also, you can start t08:43
dpmranslating the Ubuntu docs08:43
gtriderxcok, thanks for tips:)08:44
damasceneHi,08:49
damascenehttps://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/108979 "All done now. Please set your guidelines and enjoy translating in Launchpad!"08:49
damasceneHow to set the guidelines08:49
damascenedone08:52
damasceneWe need to make the direction RTL in our guide pages08:53
gtriderxcwhat is "Fallback Message "08:53
gtriderxc"Force Fallback Message to show"08:54
gtriderxcGNOME-session08:55
gtriderxcalso "[...]Installing new driver can maybe be a help.\nYou should try the Ubuntu classic [...]" what is "/n"?08:58
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BarzoghHello10:50
andrejzhello11:06
dpmhi damascene, here are some links that should help you getting started with creating translation guidelines:11:21
dpmhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/TranslationGuidelines11:21
dpmhttps://help.launchpad.net/Translations/Guide11:22
dpmdamascene, in the meantime, may I ask you to add some welcome text to https://launchpad.net/~lp-l10n-ar ? An empty page is not very welcoming for new translators landing there, and does not encourage communication. A brief note in Arabic saying welcome, what the team is about and where and how the team communicates would be extremely useful, and should not take more than a few minutes to write11:24
damascenedpm: ok. but could you please tell me how to make the text RTL?14:12
dpmdamascene, where do you want to make text RTL?14:13
dpmis that not supported in LP already? E.g. as in https://launchpad.net/~lp-l10n-ara14:14
damascenehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArabicTranslationTeam/NewTranslator14:14
damasceneno it is not14:14
dpmit is in Launchpad, but you're asking about the wiki14:15
damasceneyou see the text aligned to the left while it should be aligned to the right14:15
damasceneactually both14:15
dpmdamascene, so this can be one of these, I think: either RTL is not well supported in MoinMoin, or the new Ubuntu wiki theme has a bug14:17
damasceneand what about launchpad team description? it has the same problem.14:18
damascenethis is about the wiki http://moinmo.in/HebrewSupport/Planning14:20
damasceneArabic is close to Hebrew14:20
dpmre: the Launchpad page, Launchpad is developed with Zope templates, which generate the HTML. So this is either a problem with LP generating them or with Zope's RTL support14:21
dpmdamascene, which browser are you using? Another Arab speaker using Chrome tells me right now, referring to the wiki page "text (at least the arabic part) looks good to me and correctly aligned .. can't see what's wrong with it"14:22
damascenedpm: firefox14:24
damasceneWho is that person? may I talk to him?14:24
dpmdamascene, ok, I think we've figured it out: it's an issue with the new Ubuntu wiki theme. It looks ok with the old theme. You can talk to kim0 or nigelb in the #ubuntu-community-team channel14:25
damasceneArabic starts from the right like in here http://wiki.linuxac.org/doku.php14:25
dpmso I'll file a bug14:25
damascenedpm: are you sure the MoinMoin supports RTL first?14:26
damasceneit is not a common feature14:26
dpmdamascene, I'm not sure it does fully support it, that's what I meant earlier14:27
damascenebrb14:27
damascenelooks like Moin has good Arabic support http://moinmo.in/WikiSandBox/RtlTest15:13
damascenedpm: if I login RTL support works16:03
damasceneit is the template16:03
dpmwhat template?16:04
dpmoh, I see16:04
dpmyeah, as I said, it seems like a bug in the Ubuntu wiki theme16:05
dpmthe old theme supported RTL16:05
dpmbut the new one seems to break it16:05
dpmI was going to report this, but if you want to do it in the meantime, that would be great. Here's the project:16:05
dpmhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+filebug16:08
damasceneOk16:10
damascenehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/71651316:16
ubot4Launchpad bug 716513 in ubuntu-website "Wiki RTL support is broken in the new template (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]16:16
dpmdamascene, great, thanks a lot. I've made a few adjustments and I've added a couple of screenshots to illustrate the problem16:27
damascenethank you16:28
dpmMirv, does the Lucid Finnish langpack (esp. Firefox) look ok to you now?16:56
dpmI'll remove it from the list now, since new packages were generated, but if you could update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LanguagePackUpdatesQA that'd be great16:57
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Mirvdpm: now seems to work, although I'm not on the same machine. updating the list.20:08

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