[07:53] <dpm> good morning all
[07:54] <gtriderxc> hi
[08:21] <gtriderxc> I have a question. I'm translating GRUB and have some problems with HASH. 4 example "Specify hash to use." does this hash have anything in common with encryption or is it any other kind of #?
[08:27] <gtriderxc> anyway is the GRUB the best choice? does anybody see something more important here: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+lang/pl
[08:28] <gtriderxc> for I have no more ideas
[08:40] <dpm> let me have a look...
[08:43] <dpm> gtriderxc, that looks great, it seems the Polish team is rocking it! You'll soon have more strings to translate in that first page, since unity will get some new strings soon. As per what to translate next, here are two suggestions: complete the 2nd page -> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+lang/pl/+index?start=75&batch=75 especially gnome-session-2.0, which has got several Ubuntu-specific strings, and gbrainy. Also, you can start t
[08:43] <dpm> ranslating the Ubuntu docs
[08:44] <gtriderxc> ok, thanks for tips:)
[08:49] <damascene> Hi,
[08:49] <damascene> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/108979 "All done now. Please set your guidelines and enjoy translating in Launchpad!"
[08:49] <damascene> How to set the guidelines
[08:52] <damascene> done
[08:53] <damascene> We need to make the direction RTL in our guide pages
[08:53] <gtriderxc> what is "Fallback Message "
[08:54] <gtriderxc> "Force Fallback Message to show"
[08:55] <gtriderxc> GNOME-session
[08:58] <gtriderxc> also "[...]Installing new driver can maybe be a help.\nYou should try the Ubuntu classic [...]" what is "/n"?
[10:50] <Barzogh> Hello
[11:06] <andrejz> hello
[11:21] <dpm> hi damascene, here are some links that should help you getting started with creating translation guidelines:
[11:21] <dpm> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/TranslationGuidelines
[11:22] <dpm> https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/Guide
[11:24] <dpm> damascene, in the meantime, may I ask you to add some welcome text to https://launchpad.net/~lp-l10n-ar ? An empty page is not very welcoming for new translators landing there, and does not encourage communication. A brief note in Arabic saying welcome, what the team is about and where and how the team communicates would be extremely useful, and should not take more than a few minutes to write
[14:12] <damascene> dpm: ok. but could you please tell me how to make the text RTL?
[14:13] <dpm> damascene, where do you want to make text RTL?
[14:14] <dpm> is that not supported in LP already? E.g. as in https://launchpad.net/~lp-l10n-ara
[14:14] <damascene> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArabicTranslationTeam/NewTranslator
[14:14] <damascene> no it is not
[14:15] <dpm> it is in Launchpad, but you're asking about the wiki
[14:15] <damascene> you see the text aligned to the left while it should be aligned to the right
[14:15] <damascene> actually both
[14:17] <dpm> damascene, so this can be one of these, I think: either RTL is not well supported in MoinMoin, or the new Ubuntu wiki theme has a bug
[14:18] <damascene> and what about launchpad team description? it has the same problem.
[14:20] <damascene> this is about the wiki http://moinmo.in/HebrewSupport/Planning
[14:20] <damascene> Arabic is close to Hebrew
[14:21] <dpm> re: the Launchpad page, Launchpad is developed with Zope templates, which generate the HTML. So this is either a problem with LP generating them or with Zope's RTL support
[14:22] <dpm> damascene, which browser are you using? Another Arab speaker using Chrome tells me right now, referring to the wiki page "text (at least the arabic part) looks good to me and correctly aligned .. can't see what's wrong with it"
[14:24] <damascene> dpm: firefox
[14:24] <damascene> Who is that person? may I talk to him?
[14:25] <dpm> damascene, ok, I think we've figured it out: it's an issue with the new Ubuntu wiki theme. It looks ok with the old theme. You can talk to kim0 or nigelb in the #ubuntu-community-team channel
[14:25] <damascene> Arabic starts from the right like in here http://wiki.linuxac.org/doku.php
[14:25] <dpm> so I'll file a bug
[14:26] <damascene> dpm: are you sure the MoinMoin supports RTL first?
[14:26] <damascene> it is not a common feature
[14:27] <dpm> damascene, I'm not sure it does fully support it, that's what I meant earlier
[14:27] <damascene> brb
[15:13] <damascene> looks like Moin has good Arabic support http://moinmo.in/WikiSandBox/RtlTest
[16:03] <damascene> dpm: if I login RTL support works
[16:03] <damascene> it is the template
[16:04] <dpm> what template?
[16:04] <dpm> oh, I see
[16:05] <dpm> yeah, as I said, it seems like a bug in the Ubuntu wiki theme
[16:05] <dpm> the old theme supported RTL
[16:05] <dpm> but the new one seems to break it
[16:05] <dpm> I was going to report this, but if you want to do it in the meantime, that would be great. Here's the project:
[16:08] <dpm> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+filebug
[16:10] <damascene> Ok
[16:16] <damascene> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/716513
[16:16] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 716513 in ubuntu-website "Wiki RTL support is broken in the new template (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[16:27] <dpm> damascene, great, thanks a lot. I've made a few adjustments and I've added a couple of screenshots to illustrate the problem
[16:28] <damascene> thank you
[16:56] <dpm> Mirv, does the Lucid Finnish langpack (esp. Firefox) look ok to you now?
[16:57] <dpm> I'll remove it from the list now, since new packages were generated, but if you could update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LanguagePackUpdatesQA that'd be great
[20:08] <Mirv> dpm: now seems to work, although I'm not on the same machine. updating the list.