[00:11] <nuboon2age> hey jtatum are you going to SF for Ubuntu Hour tonight?
[00:15] <nuboon2age> i'm over at the Self Help Center now and trying to decide whether to go to SF or do something else tonight. jtatum, jledbetter, pleia2
[00:21] <nuboon2age> pleia2: did you decide whether to go to dinner afterwords?
[00:23] <pleia2> nuboon2age: no dinner for me, but others may be interested (jamie is coming down for it - and bringing some shirts!)
[00:23] <jtatum> nuboon2age: it's not on my calendar but i could be talked into it
[00:23] <pleia2> jamie == jamiedmattingly
[00:24] <jtatum> some coffee would be nice on a cold day like today. hopefully the shop is open :)
[00:24] <nuboon2age> okay well i'm not really 100% jtatum so i guess rather than try to talk you into it i'll hope to see you tomorrow in SJ jtatum??? pleia2
[00:24] <pleia2> backup plan is starbucks a block away, I put it in the announcment and on the loco directory page :)
[00:25] <jtatum> definitely be in sj tomorrow
[00:25] <nuboon2age> oh that rocks jtatum
[00:26] <nuboon2age> and i'm REALLY hoping a bunch of y'all will come down for Mountain View next Thursday PM. pleia2, jtatum, akk, aaditya. outofjungle, Yasumoto, crashsystems, crashsystems1
[00:26] <nuboon2age> okay see y'all tomorrow, have fun tonight pleia2
[00:26] <pleia2> thanks :)
[00:26] <jtatum> getting back into the rhythm of hours after being sick for so long. that sucked
[00:27] <nuboon2age> definitely sucks (still does for me too) jtatum
[00:27] <outofjungle> nuboon2age: where is ubuntu hour tomorrow?
[00:27] <nuboon2age> its again at the coffee shop we met at before outofjungle
[00:27] <jtatum> philz coffee across 4th from sjsu, outofjungle
[00:28] <nuboon2age> yes, thank you jtatum, outofjungle, aaditya, akk
[00:28] <nuboon2age> gotta run, adios y'all.
[00:28] <jtatum> fare thee well
[00:28] <pleia2> later nuboon2age
[00:28] <nuboon2age> luego jtatum, pleia2
[00:28] <outofjungle> awesome, i'll try to make it tomorrow
[00:28] <outofjungle> MarkDude: ping
[00:28] <nuboon2age> awesome outofjungle
[00:30] <jtatum> i saw akk at baypiggies, but in that context i wasn't sure it was her. and perhaps the same in reverse because neither of us said hi to each other. but she asked a good question and then i was like, aha
[00:33] <akk> I was indeed there, didn't realize you were.
[00:34] <jtatum> yes, we walked in at the same time
[00:34] <akk> Darn, I didn't realize! (I wasn't entirely with it, was getting over a cold and pretty muddle-headed)
[00:37] <jtatum> the same. i sat way in the back to avoid spreading anything. really enjoyed that speaker.
[00:51] <MarkDude> outofjungle, pong
[01:51]  * pleia2 arrives, gets coffee
[01:58] <pleia2> w00t, jamiedmattingly just arrived
[01:58] <pleia2> and he brought 3 large logo on white tshirts :D
[02:01] <pleia2> yay grantbow!
[02:04] <jtatum> nice!
[02:04] <jtatum> regards to san francisco
[02:11] <pleia2> thanks jtatum :) 4 of us here now!
[02:11] <jtatum> i will probably be at the next one
[02:13] <pleia2> now 5!
[02:14] <pleia2> someone from the NC loco!
[03:11] <pleia2> ended up having 7 people come out, was fun :)
[03:11] <MarkDude> Good deal
[04:30] <Eureka> wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x edited
[04:45] <iheartubuntu> hiya all. my sis is trying to upgrade but she is getting a "held packages" error message. is there any way to onhold these so she can continue the upgrade?
[04:45] <iheartubuntu> im wondering if its some icedtea packages i locked in synaptic a while back
[04:46] <pleia2> sounds likely
[04:47] <pleia2> if you set the hold in synaptic there is probably a way to unlock them there too (I'm not all that familiar with the synaptic interface though)
[04:48] <iheartubuntu> if i run aptitude full-upgrade would it cuase any upgrade problems? or would it force upgrade all those locked ones?
[04:54] <pleia2> if locked means "pinned" it won't upgrade those locked ones, but if there are packages which depend on them being upgraded it will cause an upgrade problem
[04:55] <rww> full-upgrade will break holds to upgrade if necessary, won't it?
[04:55] <iheartubuntu> crap
[04:55] <rww> hrm, maybe not. I thought I read that in the manpage, but it isn't in there
[04:56] <iheartubuntu> is there any way to see which packages i might have locked in synaptic?
[04:56] <pleia2> I thought it just ignored the warnings
[04:56] <pleia2> and would do the upgrade anyway, regardless of dependency issues
[04:56] <pleia2> (I've never actually done it, too paranoid)
[04:57] <iheartubuntu> itsn ot my computer so im not too nervous :) :)
[04:57] <pleia2> lol
[04:57] <iheartubuntu> haha
[04:59] <iheartubuntu> anyone come across this error before on an upgrade? "could not calculate the upgrade"
[05:03] <iheartubuntu> my prob is it doesnt tell me which package is the problem
[05:03] <iheartubuntu> can i use apt-get to find package problems?
[05:05] <akk> It might give you a better error message than that, anyway.
[05:09] <iheartubuntu> will have to investigate. im surprised a google search doesnt pull up more details on my error message
[05:09] <iheartubuntu> its usually how i solve problems quick
[09:41] <jedahan> YARRRRR in LA for a few days
[09:45] <jedahan> santa monica, venice beach, art walk, anything else I should make sure to see?
[09:45] <frewsxcv> there is nothing interesting to see in southern california
[09:46] <frewsxcv> :-P
[09:57] <jedahan> heh ok gnight then
[19:28] <jamiedmattingly> wow nobody is saying much today
[19:28] <MarkDude> Hello people
[19:29] <jamiedmattingly> hi MarkDude
[19:31] <nhaines> akk: hey, your article on unbricking Linux plug computers just got Slashdotted.  :)
[19:31] <akk> whoa, cool!
[19:32] <akk> or maybe not so cool, guess now I'll have to read a bunch of comments on what an idiot I am :)
[19:32] <iheartubuntu> yo mark. hope to meet you at scale
[19:33] <DarkwingDuck> Hey MarkDude
[19:33] <iheartubuntu> my machine at work is down so im busy the next few weeks fixing it :|
[19:37] <nhaines> My crowning moment of awesome at Slashdot was getting first post on this story.  http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/07/19/1948208/How-IT-Pros-Can-Avoid-Legal-Trouble
[19:38] <iheartubuntu> nahines > "i'm liable for first posts" haha
[19:43] <MarkDude> All DarkwingDuck jamiedmattingly  everyone else
[19:43] <MarkDude> iheartubuntu, no doubt, lets at least have coffee
[19:43] <jamiedmattingly> huh i see my name lit up what did i miss?
[19:44] <DarkwingDuck> Same here jamiedmattingly
[19:44] <DarkwingDuck> lol
[19:45] <MarkDude> We need to plan a getogether- at least for coffee or drinks in the bar
[19:45] <MarkDude> last year that sort of fizzled
[19:47] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah... It was a bit split last year.
[19:48] <DarkwingDuck> I'm having dinner with a close friend on sat night though... But, I was thinking we could do something on friday night.
[19:48] <MarkDude> DarkwingDuck, geeknic ideas? as far as mailing list or how to organoze it for SoCal?
[19:49] <MarkDude> Geeknic-SMOGbelt or sumthin'?
[19:49] <DarkwingDuck> Smogbelt LOL
[19:49] <DarkwingDuck> If we are going to do it right, we would do it in San Diego the day before ComiCon
[19:49] <MarkDude> Either that or Silicone Folly
[19:50] <MarkDude> That would be epic
[19:50] <DarkwingDuck> Or, the day after
[19:50] <MarkDude> Fedora has 2 Ambassadors sponsored to go there
[19:50] <MarkDude> I know at least one would help out
[19:50] <DarkwingDuck> And I'll be going to comicon this year so I could word of mouth advertise.
[19:50]  * DarkwingDuck shrugs
[19:51] <DarkwingDuck> MarkDude: after scale I'll look deeper into it.
[19:52] <MarkDude> If you can get some sort of framework, set up- I may be able to get a few sponsor $ for your geeknic
[19:52] <DarkwingDuck> MarkDude: it's in July
[19:52] <DarkwingDuck> So, that works too because it's after the Natty release... this time in the release cycle I tend to get really busy.
[19:52]  * MarkDude humbly suggests the *perfect time* to get folks involved would be say, idk, a geek gathering in SoCal
[19:52] <DarkwingDuck> Agreed.
[19:53] <MarkDude> idea being you have one before the big one for Comicon
[19:53] <MarkDude> iron the bugs out
[19:53] <MarkDude> trust me it will be less stressful
[19:53] <MarkDude> just plan it to be less than 15 from a store, and no worries
[19:53] <DarkwingDuck> Holy mother of wow...
[19:54]  * MarkDude 's backup plan is to make a posterous acct for this- they have ML
[19:54] <DarkwingDuck> a basic 10x10 booth with nothing in it is 2200USD
[19:54] <MarkDude> Where?
[19:54] <DarkwingDuck> ComiCon
[19:55] <DarkwingDuck> Comic-Con rather
[19:55] <DarkwingDuck> and if you want tables ect the price goes up.
[19:57] <DarkwingDuck> Well, I thought I was going...
[19:57] <DarkwingDuck> It sold out at last years Comic Con
[20:01] <MarkDude> Well non-profits can get discounts
[20:02] <MarkDude> either way the point was, lets try to get in at least one picnic before Comicon, and use time in between to network it :)
[20:21] <MarkDude> DarkwingDuck, so if I dont make it, are you volunteering to wear the Penguin suit?
[20:23] <DarkwingDuck> :) Sure, why not?
[20:23] <DarkwingDuck> I'm fairly busy with Natty release though, but, I should be able to help with that.
[20:24] <MarkDude> Good deal
[20:39] <iheartubuntu> Who is going to wear the Natty suit?
[20:47] <sn9> we have a narwhal suit? and it doesn't look exceedingly stupid?
[20:49] <MarkDude> sn9, if we dont- I will use gimp to make it look like we did
[20:49] <MarkDude> and you will be wearing the suit
[20:55] <iheartubuntu> sounds like a typical SF rave night. penguins and narwhals
[20:55] <sn9> ok
[20:55] <iheartubuntu> pleia2 did you see that VW darth vadar advert?
[20:56] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: nope
[20:58] <MarkDude> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/5425001844/in/set-72157625996122260/
[20:58] <MarkDude> The 1st penguin suit is now in Venezuela - bring happiness
[20:58] <MarkDude> bringing
[20:58] <pleia2> lol
[21:02] <iheartubuntu> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R55e-uHQna0
[21:04] <iheartubuntu> im still waiting for VW to release a new version of the bus. Might be quicker if I just buy an old one again tho!
[21:17] <jamiedmattingly> is anyone here that was at ubuntu hour last night in sf?
[21:17] <pleia2> I think just me and grantbow
[21:18] <jamiedmattingly> i need a favor can i pm you pleia2?
[21:18] <pleia2> sure
[21:33] <jamiedmattingly> hey dont want to bug you with too many curiosities by how come your boyfriend isnt involved in ubuntu he is techy also right?
[21:34] <pleia2> he likes to attend events from time to time (he's coming down to scale with me) but he works a lot and is more of an infrastructure guy (network engineer)
[21:39] <MarkDude> pleia2, 's BF is a mammoth hunter type
[21:39] <MarkDude> Socializing can be 2nd to protecting the tribe :)
[21:40] <MarkDude> jamiedmattingly, he is more likely to come to BBQs, he usually operates one grill at the geeknics
[21:40] <jamiedmattingly> cool when is next one MarkDude?
[21:41] <pleia2> March? :)
[21:41] <jamiedmattingly> oh cool will it be in sf? or more this way?
[21:41] <MarkDude> March
[21:41] <akk> They've been all over.
[21:42] <MarkDude> hoping for the Hacker Dojo
[21:42] <jamiedmattingly> where is that?
[21:42] <MarkDude> one of these time we can use the akk center locator
[21:42] <MarkDude> mountain view
[21:42] <akk> MarkDude: and have it in the middle of the bay, on a boat :)
[21:42] <akk> The Dojo would be good for a spring one, since there's an indoors to go to if the weather doesn't cooperate.
[21:52] <MarkDude> Im on a boat- good SNL video :D
[23:48] <iheartubuntu> Icelandic volcano set to erupt again and it would dwarf last years event. Didnt some of you have traveling problems from last years eruption?
[23:49] <pleia2> yep
[23:49]  * pleia2 got stuck in chicago for a few hours twice (coming and going!)
[23:50] <iheartubuntu> Hopefully there wont be a 2012 event on my 30 min drive to SCALE
[23:51] <pleia2> hehe
[23:51] <jtatum> http://www.icelandreview.com/icelandreview/daily_news/?cat_id=40764&ew_0_a_id=373779
[23:51] <pleia2> my tentative international trips this year are budapest and sydney, at least sydney I fly the other direction ;)