Cheri703 | Unit193: check out "no ordinary family" it's pretty good, we are on the second episode | 03:19 |
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Unit193 | Cheri703: I'll check it out. I just started playing with Pandora today! | 04:10 |
Cheri703 | nice | 04:10 |
Unit193 | pianobar is a nice little program for it too... | 04:11 |
canthus13 | pianobar rocks... until it stops working and they have to rewrite it because pandora changed their api. | 04:11 |
Unit193 | canthus13: Would it make you feel better if I told you I haven't used synaptic in a bit? (apt-cache and apt-get all the way!) | 04:33 |
Cheri703 | Unit193: I'm going to bring that laptop tomorrow night | 04:33 |
Unit193 | Cheri703: I'll try to remember to bring the cord | 04:34 |
Cheri703 | kk | 04:34 |
Cheri703 | my awesome friends are loaning us their car tomorrow through the weekend | 04:36 |
canthus13 | Unit193: I use apt-get for most stuff. | 04:43 |
canthus13 | Unit193: synaptic's good for finding something when I'm not quite sure what I'm looking for... but apt-get is faster. :) | 04:43 |
Unit193 | If I don't know, I use apt-cache search | 04:46 |
Unit193 | What do you use for terminal RSS? | 04:46 |
canthus13 | I don't. | 04:47 |
canthus13 | I don't use RSS. | 04:48 |
canthus13 | I've tried, but I inevitably get so far behind that it's not worth it. | 04:48 |
Unit193 | I guess I'll stick with canto. I just have a few (Weather, NotAlwaysRight, portableapps, GAOTD, etc) | 04:51 |
Unit193 | Alpine or mutt? | 04:52 |
Cheri703 | my google reader account has over 75 feeds...possibly more | 04:54 |
Unit193 | I use google reader for LH and will start with things that have pics *cough*failblog*cough* | 04:56 |
canthus13 | mutt | 04:56 |
thafreak | paultag: you around? | 14:02 |
thafreak | paultag: who was that guy we had dinner with at OLF who headed up canonical's arm development? | 14:03 |
thafreak | I'm looking to get the latest from the makers of the sheeva plug...but before I drop $150, I wanna see if there's better hardware out there | 14:04 |
thafreak | I figured that guy would know | 14:04 |
robho-neo | sup people | 14:35 |
paultag | thafreak: humm? | 18:06 |
thafreak | paultag: who was the guy who went to dinner with us after OLF...with jorge...he was the ARM dev lead | 19:29 |
paultag | thafreak: dave mandella | 19:29 |
paultag | yeah he was :) | 19:29 |
thafreak | ah cool | 19:29 |
thafreak | he's not anymore? | 19:29 |
paultag | still is :) | 19:29 |
paultag | but he was too | 19:29 |
thafreak | oh ok | 19:29 |
thafreak | I'm curious if there's much tiny hardware out there (besides the sheeva plug) | 19:30 |
paultag | thafreak: shiva is hella old | 19:30 |
thafreak | I figured he might be aware | 19:30 |
deejoe | marvell has also got a little non-plug box | 19:30 |
paultag | thafreak: guru plug is the new one I think | 19:30 |
paultag | deejoe: really/ | 19:30 |
paultag | ?* | 19:30 |
thafreak | exactly, and the replacements have bad reviews (heat problems) | 19:30 |
paultag | thafreak: +1 | 19:31 |
deejoe | paultag: OpenRD | 19:31 |
deejoe | open-rd.org | 19:31 |
thafreak | they have a newer one...using the same guts, but better heat disipation...supposedly | 19:31 |
thafreak | they say "From $149", but all the vendors listed want "$249"... | 19:34 |
thafreak | grr...for that much, I'd build a mini-itx or something | 19:34 |
deejoe | I guess if one were to do this on an OEM basis, it might make more sense? | 19:35 |
deejoe | also, I don't know how mini-ITX with some sort of Intel-like processor would compare in terms of power profile. | 19:35 |
deejoe | or TDP, depending on which side of that equation you care about more. | 19:35 |
thafreak | well, not much...cost is the most important part of the equation for me :) | 19:36 |
thafreak | I've seen some mini-itx boards with pico-psu's that only draw about 15w...which is still pretty good | 19:37 |
thafreak | not as good as 5w, but still better than the 100-200 that normal pc's draw | 19:37 |
thafreak | oh well...my goal is for something small and durable, that can run at a client's location 24/7, for me to ssh into... | 19:38 |
thafreak | might get a pogo plug and put debian on it...can get those for < $75 | 19:39 |
Cheri703 | once you guys are done discussing what you're discussing, I have a question (but seriously, not urgent) | 19:40 |
canthus13 | I think they're done. | 19:44 |
BiosElement | Probably | 19:45 |
BiosElement | And oh dear god, another idiot thought it'd be funny to attack Anonymous. | 19:45 |
Cheri703 | I have a client that originally wanted a desktop, but now is considering a laptop. I think they should stick with desktop, it's for a business office. I am trying to make a list of arguments against laptop...so far I have "more for your money, less chance of catastrophic failure due to a single piece failing, and if your desire for laptop is so you can access data when out of the office, I can set up remote access that will accomp | 19:46 |
Cheri703 | lish the same thing" | 19:46 |
Cheri703 | so...any thoughts are welcome | 19:46 |
thafreak | yeah, I hate laptops | 19:47 |
BiosElement | Point out that reparing a laptop generally requires hoping the maker will still service it. >.< Desktops are just a trip to the comp store. | 19:47 |
thafreak | My one client just replaced every sales person's computer with a laptop...I hate it so much | 19:48 |
Cheri703 | yeah, I have 2 laptops sitting at my house that are really decent but unusable due to a single part failing | 19:48 |
Cheri703 | I go the "netbook + remote access" route | 19:48 |
Cheri703 | saves money overall | 19:48 |
thafreak | I hope citrix's XenDesktop mobile computing ideas take off | 19:48 |
thafreak | too bad they require winbloze server...and I could never get it working in my test setup | 19:49 |
Cheri703 | this is an office that currently has an old dell with a 1.93ghz processor and 256MB of ram....and no internet...I really don't think they need a laptop at this point. I'm also going to be putting ubuntu on their comp, so that'll be interesting | 19:50 |
Cheri703 | Sorry, my internet is going in and out for some stupid reason :( | 20:07 |
deejoe | laptops make OK Nth computers, but never a good only computer | 20:36 |
deejoe | s/never/rarely/ | 20:36 |
TheErk | Hola | 20:36 |
Unit193 | Hello TheErk! | 20:36 |
TheErk | Hello Unit193 | 20:37 |
Cheri703 | true deejoe | 20:38 |
canthus13 | BiosElement: Depends on the laptop. | 20:51 |
canthus13 | BiosElement: there are plenty of shops out there that repair laptop motherboard issues... | 20:51 |
BiosElement | canthus13: keyword shops, and if you're lucky. >.< | 20:52 |
canthus13 | BiosElement: Nah. You may have to send your laptop in for repairs, but there's a guy in Lebanon, OH that does amazing work for a reasonable price. | 20:57 |
BiosElement | canthus13: I'm sure there is. I just see it as somewhat riskier. | 20:57 |
canthus13 | BiosElement: I used ebay to find him. dude has excellent reviews, so I felt pretty comfortable sending my old laptop to him. he had teh solder reflowed and the laptop back to me in 3 days... Evenr eplaced the CMOS battery at no charge. :) | 20:58 |
BiosElement | Nice | 20:59 |
thafreak | SSD or CF to SATA adapter? | 21:02 |
canthus13 | thafreak: SSD. | 21:37 |
canthus13 | CF-SATA would pretty slow, I'd think. | 21:37 |
canthus13 | If speed's not an issue, though, go for CF-SSA. it's cheaper. | 21:37 |
Cheri703 | Unit193: still at home? | 22:50 |
Unit193 | Cheri703: Yes | 22:50 |
Cheri703 | coming tonight? | 22:50 |
Unit193 | be there in a few minutes | 22:51 |
Cheri703 | bring the cord! | 22:52 |
Cheri703 | I brought the laptop | 22:52 |
Unit193 | I have it in the backpack! | 22:54 |
Cheri703 | woo! | 22:55 |
Cheri703 | we are sitting in a different place than usual, in the middle section of the restaurant | 22:55 |
Unit193 | We? you got more people? | 22:56 |
Cheri703 | husband is here | 22:56 |
Cheri703 | how are you guys getting here tonight? | 22:56 |
Unit193 | Using a SUV | 22:57 |
Unit193 | We found one down the road no one was using... | 22:57 |
Cheri703 | I meant: friend's dad driving/staying, friend's mom driving/staying, friend's parent driving/dropping off, your parent/sibling driving/staying/dropping off? | 22:58 |
Unit193 | Friends */* (I don't know anything...) | 22:59 |
Cheri703 | heh, ok | 22:59 |
Cheri703 | we'll be here | 22:59 |
BiosElement | Amazing | 23:15 |
Cheri703 | ? | 23:16 |
BiosElement | Anon totally screws over HBGary, a 'security' company after their loud mouth CEO declared 'war' on them, now after losing 60k emails he says he'll destroy anon. Awesome. | 23:16 |
* BiosElement waits for him to show up on the FBI's most wanted list thanks to anon >.> | 23:16 | |
BiosElement | He thought it'd get him press by claiming to be able to take down anon's "leadership". >.< | 23:17 |
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