[03:19] Unit193: check out "no ordinary family" it's pretty good, we are on the second episode [04:10] Cheri703: I'll check it out. I just started playing with Pandora today! [04:10] nice [04:11] pianobar is a nice little program for it too... [04:11] pianobar rocks... until it stops working and they have to rewrite it because pandora changed their api. [04:33] canthus13: Would it make you feel better if I told you I haven't used synaptic in a bit? (apt-cache and apt-get all the way!) [04:33] Unit193: I'm going to bring that laptop tomorrow night [04:34] Cheri703: I'll try to remember to bring the cord [04:34] kk [04:36] my awesome friends are loaning us their car tomorrow through the weekend [04:43] Unit193: I use apt-get for most stuff. [04:43] Unit193: synaptic's good for finding something when I'm not quite sure what I'm looking for... but apt-get is faster. :) [04:46] If I don't know, I use apt-cache search [04:46] What do you use for terminal RSS? [04:47] I don't. [04:48] I don't use RSS. [04:48] I've tried, but I inevitably get so far behind that it's not worth it. [04:51] I guess I'll stick with canto. I just have a few (Weather, NotAlwaysRight, portableapps, GAOTD, etc) [04:52] Alpine or mutt? [04:54] my google reader account has over 75 feeds...possibly more [04:56] I use google reader for LH and will start with things that have pics *cough*failblog*cough* [04:56] mutt [14:02] paultag: you around? [14:03] paultag: who was that guy we had dinner with at OLF who headed up canonical's arm development? [14:04] I'm looking to get the latest from the makers of the sheeva plug...but before I drop $150, I wanna see if there's better hardware out there [14:04] I figured that guy would know [14:35] sup people [18:06] thafreak: humm? [19:29] paultag: who was the guy who went to dinner with us after OLF...with jorge...he was the ARM dev lead [19:29] thafreak: dave mandella [19:29] yeah he was :) [19:29] ah cool [19:29] he's not anymore? [19:29] still is :) [19:29] but he was too [19:29] oh ok [19:30] I'm curious if there's much tiny hardware out there (besides the sheeva plug) [19:30] thafreak: shiva is hella old [19:30] I figured he might be aware [19:30] marvell has also got a little non-plug box [19:30] thafreak: guru plug is the new one I think [19:30] deejoe: really/ [19:30] ?* [19:30] exactly, and the replacements have bad reviews (heat problems) [19:31] thafreak: +1 [19:31] paultag: OpenRD [19:31] open-rd.org [19:31] they have a newer one...using the same guts, but better heat disipation...supposedly [19:34] they say "From $149", but all the vendors listed want "$249"... [19:34] grr...for that much, I'd build a mini-itx or something [19:35] I guess if one were to do this on an OEM basis, it might make more sense? [19:35] also, I don't know how mini-ITX with some sort of Intel-like processor would compare in terms of power profile. [19:35] or TDP, depending on which side of that equation you care about more. [19:36] well, not much...cost is the most important part of the equation for me :) [19:37] I've seen some mini-itx boards with pico-psu's that only draw about 15w...which is still pretty good [19:37] not as good as 5w, but still better than the 100-200 that normal pc's draw [19:38] oh well...my goal is for something small and durable, that can run at a client's location 24/7, for me to ssh into... [19:39] might get a pogo plug and put debian on it...can get those for < $75 [19:40] once you guys are done discussing what you're discussing, I have a question (but seriously, not urgent) [19:44] I think they're done. [19:45] Probably [19:45] And oh dear god, another idiot thought it'd be funny to attack Anonymous. [19:46] I have a client that originally wanted a desktop, but now is considering a laptop. I think they should stick with desktop, it's for a business office. I am trying to make a list of arguments against laptop...so far I have "more for your money, less chance of catastrophic failure due to a single piece failing, and if your desire for laptop is so you can access data when out of the office, I can set up remote access that will accomp [19:46] lish the same thing" [19:46] so...any thoughts are welcome [19:47] yeah, I hate laptops [19:47] Point out that reparing a laptop generally requires hoping the maker will still service it. >.< Desktops are just a trip to the comp store. [19:48] My one client just replaced every sales person's computer with a laptop...I hate it so much [19:48] yeah, I have 2 laptops sitting at my house that are really decent but unusable due to a single part failing [19:48] I go the "netbook + remote access" route [19:48] saves money overall [19:48] I hope citrix's XenDesktop mobile computing ideas take off [19:49] too bad they require winbloze server...and I could never get it working in my test setup [19:50] this is an office that currently has an old dell with a 1.93ghz processor and 256MB of ram....and no internet...I really don't think they need a laptop at this point. I'm also going to be putting ubuntu on their comp, so that'll be interesting [20:07] Sorry, my internet is going in and out for some stupid reason :( [20:36] laptops make OK Nth computers, but never a good only computer [20:36] s/never/rarely/ [20:36] Hola [20:36] Hello TheErk! [20:37] Hello Unit193 [20:38] true deejoe [20:51] BiosElement: Depends on the laptop. [20:51] BiosElement: there are plenty of shops out there that repair laptop motherboard issues... [20:52] canthus13: keyword shops, and if you're lucky. >.< [20:57] BiosElement: Nah. You may have to send your laptop in for repairs, but there's a guy in Lebanon, OH that does amazing work for a reasonable price. [20:57] canthus13: I'm sure there is. I just see it as somewhat riskier. [20:58] BiosElement: I used ebay to find him. dude has excellent reviews, so I felt pretty comfortable sending my old laptop to him. he had teh solder reflowed and the laptop back to me in 3 days... Evenr eplaced the CMOS battery at no charge. :) [20:59] Nice [21:02] SSD or CF to SATA adapter? [21:37] thafreak: SSD. [21:37] CF-SATA would pretty slow, I'd think. [21:37] If speed's not an issue, though, go for CF-SSA. it's cheaper. [22:50] Unit193: still at home? [22:50] Cheri703: Yes [22:50] coming tonight? [22:51] be there in a few minutes [22:52] bring the cord! [22:52] I brought the laptop [22:54] I have it in the backpack! [22:55] woo! [22:55] we are sitting in a different place than usual, in the middle section of the restaurant [22:56] We? you got more people? [22:56] husband is here [22:56] how are you guys getting here tonight? [22:57] Using a SUV [22:57] We found one down the road no one was using... [22:58] I meant: friend's dad driving/staying, friend's mom driving/staying, friend's parent driving/dropping off, your parent/sibling driving/staying/dropping off? [22:59] Friends */* (I don't know anything...) [22:59] heh, ok [22:59] we'll be here [23:15] Amazing [23:16] ? [23:16] Anon totally screws over HBGary, a 'security' company after their loud mouth CEO declared 'war' on them, now after losing 60k emails he says he'll destroy anon. Awesome. [23:16] * BiosElement waits for him to show up on the FBI's most wanted list thanks to anon >.> [23:17] He thought it'd get him press by claiming to be able to take down anon's "leadership". >.<