[18:42] <Keybuk> morning
[18:45] <adam_g> heya.
[18:47] <Keybuk> how goes?
[18:48] <adam_g> well. working with upstart for the first time.
[18:49] <adam_g> does a concept equivilent to the status operation of an LSB init script exist in upstart currently?
[18:51] <djszapi> hi Keybuk
[18:51] <djszapi> Keybuk: upstart logging does not work ...
[18:56] <Keybuk> djszapi: it does, millions of people use it every day
[18:56] <Keybuk> it may not be working for you
[18:56] <Keybuk> I'm honestly starting to suspect somebody at Nokia has disabled that code in your source tree
[18:57] <djszapi> nope
[18:57] <djszapi> I made an own build today.
[18:58] <Keybuk> well, it works for me
[18:58] <Keybuk> perhaps you could tell me more about what doesn't work
[18:58] <Keybuk> what you've tried
[18:58] <Keybuk> etc.
[18:58] <djszapi> it does not help me if you keep repeating it :)
[18:59] <Keybuk> it doesn't help you if you just say "nope" either ;-)
[18:59] <djszapi> I just know it can work, thus it is worthwhile to try to fix it.
[18:59] <djszapi> well "nope" is a kool word :P
[18:59] <djszapi> btw, have you read my mail ?
[18:59] <Keybuk> I haven't read your mail
[18:59] <djszapi> I do not know what else I could amend it with ...
[19:00] <Keybuk> ok
[19:00] <Keybuk> so you've patched upstart with my kmsg patch?
[19:00] <Keybuk> and that version of upstart is currently running as pid #1 ?
[19:03] <djszapi> well, about.
[19:03] <Keybuk> "about" ?
[19:04] <djszapi> yeah, the patch did not change anything to the previous statement, there are *NO* such messages anywhere.
[19:04] <Keybuk> right, I'm asking whether you have that version patched and running ;-)
[19:04] <Keybuk> ok
[19:04] <Keybuk> so let's try something
[19:04] <Keybuk> (as root) run the following
[19:05] <Keybuk> # initctl log-priority
[19:05] <Keybuk> it should print a word, what is that word?
[19:06] <djszapi> FYI: I am @ home.
[19:06] <djszapi> 21:06 pm
[19:06] <Keybuk> can you not access that box?
[19:06] <Keybuk> no VPN or anything?
[19:06] <djszapi> to the prototype ?
[19:06] <djszapi> no, I cannot.
[19:06] <Keybuk> ah
[19:06] <djszapi> it is quite perfectly locked into the safe box.
[19:06] <Keybuk> what time of day can you usually access it?
[19:06] <djszapi> while being there ? :)
[19:07] <Keybuk> what time?
[19:07] <djszapi> no idea :)
[19:07] <Keybuk> haha, right
[19:07] <djszapi> change day by day
[19:07] <djszapi> really...
[19:07] <Keybuk> so what I'll do is reply to your mail with a sequence of debugging steps
[19:07] <Keybuk> if you could follow them exactly, and answer each of them when you have access to the box
[19:07] <Keybuk> then I should be able to figure out what's going wrong with it
[19:08] <djszapi> well
[19:08] <Keybuk> please don't skip steps if you think you know the answer, the output I'm asking for is subtle and you might miss something that would tell me the problem
[19:08] <djszapi> I can access to it in 11 hours
[19:08] <djszapi> ok sure do not be afraid of that :)
[19:08] <Keybuk> yeah, in 11 hours I'll be going to bed
[19:08] <djszapi> btw, we use 0.6.6
[19:09] <djszapi> with quilt patchset
[19:09] <djszapi> where should I see kmsg logs ?
[19:09] <djszapi> I tried the dmesg and the console where printk happens.
[19:09] <Keybuk> I actually have a hunch what's wrong
[19:10] <Keybuk> based on something somebody else at Nokia told me earlier this week ;-)
[19:10] <djszapi> or go thorugh pls.
[19:10] <djszapi> maybe I can answer for some of them
[19:10] <djszapi> which can already show the mistake ...
[19:10] <Keybuk> well, first in your mail you say "warn" which actually means upstart will log *less*, you want log-priority info ;-)
[19:10] <djszapi> somebody ?
[19:10] <djszapi> me or other guy ?
[19:10] <djszapi> yes
[19:10] <Keybuk> but I think in MeeGo you have an /sbin/init shell script wrapper for Upstart
[19:11] <djszapi> I tried info
[19:11] <djszapi> that was done
[19:11] <Keybuk> and that wrapper is not passing command-line arguments to Upstart
[19:11] <djszapi> nothing changed regarding this
[19:11] <djszapi> that is a typo in the mail, sorry.
[19:11] <Keybuk> right
[19:11] <djszapi> I wanted to send a mail.
[19:11] <Keybuk> well, reply to my mail when you have the box, and follow the steps
[19:11] <djszapi> I have just been at the school
[19:11] <Keybuk> and we'll chat tomorrow
[19:11] <djszapi> "but I think in MeeGo you have an /sbin/init shell script wrapper for Upstart" -> why so ?
[19:12] <djszapi> btw, ROTFL !!! :-) http://i.imgur.com/4kepL.jpg
[19:12] <Keybuk> djszapi: because someone else told me you do in the thread where I posted the kmsg patch
[19:12] <djszapi> huh ?
[19:12] <djszapi> not gotcha ...
[19:13] <Keybuk> it's ok
[19:13] <Keybuk> we'll pick this up tomorrow
[19:13] <djszapi> highly doubt
[19:13] <Keybuk> hey ;-) I'm trying to help here
[19:14] <djszapi> during your sleep ?
[19:14] <Keybuk> tomorrow my time
[19:14] <djszapi> if yes, I am fine with that :)
[19:14] <Keybuk> ie. this time tomorrow once you've gone through the steps in my mail
[19:14] <djszapi> well ...
[19:14] <djszapi> when I will get to my box, you will be sleeping.
[19:14] <Keybuk> yes
[19:14] <Keybuk> so you reply to the mail
[19:14] <Keybuk> and then when I'm awake, I read the mail
[19:15] <Keybuk> and hopefully in the output of all the commands will be the clue that tells me what's wrong
[19:15] <djszapi> well I have access to the srouce code.
[19:15] <djszapi> * source
[19:15] <djszapi> if I can help anything with that, do not hesitate to tell me ...
[19:16] <djszapi> btw, I did see nowhere this --verbose option.
[19:17] <djszapi> maybe it is just not documented ?
[19:17] <Keybuk> it's built-in to nih/option.c
[19:17] <djszapi> odd I was thinking that it is kernel thingy ;)
[19:17] <Keybuk> no
[19:17] <Keybuk> it's an upstart thingy
[19:18] <djszapi> Alright.
[19:18] <djszapi> cya tmrw.
[19:18] <djszapi> ty in advance.
[19:18] <Keybuk> (mail should be in your inbox now btw)
[19:19] <djszapi> it is not.
[19:19] <djszapi> just the thread ...
[19:19] <djszapi> got.
[19:20] <djszapi> haha I think all the output will be ok :)
[19:20] <Keybuk> I'm not looking for "ok" or not "ok"
[19:20] <djszapi> (I am just kidding)
[19:20] <Keybuk> I'm looking for a clue that tells me what's wrong that you may miss
[19:20] <Keybuk> Upstart, like most software, uses different strings for the same states in different places
[19:20] <Keybuk> so by reading a log, as a developer, I can see what it's doing which isn't obvious to others
[19:20] <djszapi> that is exactly what I meant with "ok", nothing is gonna inform you :)
[19:21] <djszapi> okay, let us see and really thank you.
[19:25] <Keybuk> np :p