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edubuntusup buntus?01:12
doctormohighvoltage: How's the info for the background going?01:55
highvoltagedoctormo: I didn't get any feedback on the list, so I'm going to put together what I think will be great and people will have to be happy with what they get :)02:12
doctormohighvoltage: We'll so a 5,1,3 pattern if that's ok with you? 5 concepts, 1 selection, 3 consultations and updates.02:14
highvoltagedoctormo: sounds good02:55
doctormohighvoltage: Ah, yes, forgot what I said for a second02:56
highvoltagedoctormo: that's a long second :)03:09
highvoltage(oops, I misread there for a bit)03:09
doctormohighvoltage: Fun fun, I saw a wallpaper and da and thought of you today,03:12
doctormolet me dig it up03:12
doctormohighvoltage: http://fav.me/d398q5403:16
doctormoBut I also just saw this one, you have to check it out: http://fav.me/d398ufo03:17
highvoltageheh03:17
highvoltageyou get narwhals with... tusks!?03:18
doctormohighvoltage: You don't, that's creative license.03:26
highvoltageheh, yes03:28
mgariepygood morning everyone13:23
mhall119morning13:41
Dunc_having problems logging on w/ my ltsp clients...  anyone willing to listen?16:04
Dunc_pam validates user, subsystem request sftp, receives disconnect from client16:06
Dunc_ltsp standalone running on Ubuntu 10.1016:06
doctormohighvoltage: Ello18:04
highvoltagedoctormo: heya19:55
highvoltagedoctormo: busy putting together email for you now...19:55
doctormothanks19:56
highvoltagedoctormo: I didn't get any feedback, seems like people don't care about wallpapers until release :)19:57
highvoltagedoctormo: sending you wants/don't-wants/mood stuff, don't have much in terms of definition and concept yet though19:57
doctormohighvoltage: You'll get your 5 concepts, your team must pick one from there and then we'll work on it more from there. 3 times to get it right.20:11
doctormohighvoltage: Although you've got a double negative in your requirements, I should clarify that line20:12
doctormoYou say "Do not want something not /too/ cartoonish", but this means you want something cartoonish.20:13
doctormohighvoltage: See http://fav.me/d39apk5 for fun, please feedback me.20:14
highvoltagedoctormo: I guess that's not too much so, you can drop that requirement if you want20:17
doctormohighvoltage: No, you misunderstand, I just need you to clarify what you said.20:17
highvoltagedoctormo: ok, you pasted me your debian squeeze wallpaper, which is really great and would be perfect... if it wasn't squeeze themed and had a debian logo :)20:18
doctormohighvoltage: You still here?20:39
doctormoKeep in mind that this is very raw concept stage, look at this http://imagebin.org/13741620:40
doctormoIt's based on the debian squeeze one, but with the edubuntu logo.20:40
doctormoI'm still coming up with a way to do the person, and who/what the person should be.20:41
highvoltagedoctormo: ok, great. we'd like to avoid having logos on the wallpaper (sorry that's an obvious one I should've mentioned to you before), but yes, it can work. I know you like manga-style drawings but I think that might be what we'd consider "too cartoonish" if you know what I mean20:46
highvoltagedoctormo: do you think you could make a daytime version work?20:47
highvoltagehmm, I guess that would mean losing the nice colours20:47
doctormohighvoltage: OK I'm scrapping the concept.20:47
doctormoBecause everything about it is wrong ;-)20:47
doctormoAlthough requirements are so important that you need to really list everything, even obvious things.20:48
doctormohighvoltage: So I need to do a little bit of training with you so you know how to make requirements.20:50
highvoltagesorry, I mentioned it so many times before to jbaer before, we had it on the previous spec, I should've copied and pasted more from there20:50
doctormoI need to understand the mood of the piece you want. So far you've not really gone into the emotion much.20:50
doctormoYour document has grouped my three things into one and then split into two bullets.20:50
doctormoI really need an answer per question20:51
doctormoI think I can decypher what info should go in what box, but it's important to be more direct.20:51
highvoltagedoctormo: The thing you need to understand is that we don't have all those answers. For the missing parts we need an artist, someone like you. If I could show you a picture of what we want, then we wouldn't need you in the first place now would we?20:52
doctormohighvoltage: Obviously, but if you ask an artist to do the specification, you must be happy with whatever he comes up with.20:52
doctormoAnyway, I'll continue to hack away at the remaining 4 concepts and present them to you at the end of next week.20:53
doctormoHopefully we can move from there.20:53
highvoltagedoctormo: indeed, although right at the beginning I did explicitely tell you that we have some basic requirements and the rest are basically left to artistic license20:54
highvoltagedoctormo: yes, I hope so too :)20:54
doctormoyea, I admit I've been trying to push you towards nailing it down, because I fear rejection of hard work at the end.20:54
doctormoBut i'll trust you on this one.20:54
highvoltagedoctormo: yes, I understand that20:57
highvoltagedoctormo: in concept, I actually like the girl sitting on the hill, I didn't reject that, but I think that could be a good wallpaper if she was less manga-ey, and perhaps sitting under a tree or something. I'm not sure how much off a concept is allowed to change before you consider it rejected20:59
highvoltagein the end we just need one good wallpaper, so one good concept that can be seen through to the end would even be enough imho. but then again I trust you to know best20:59
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