[01:12] sup buntus? [01:55] highvoltage: How's the info for the background going? [02:12] doctormo: I didn't get any feedback on the list, so I'm going to put together what I think will be great and people will have to be happy with what they get :) [02:14] highvoltage: We'll so a 5,1,3 pattern if that's ok with you? 5 concepts, 1 selection, 3 consultations and updates. [02:55] doctormo: sounds good [02:56] highvoltage: Ah, yes, forgot what I said for a second [03:09] doctormo: that's a long second :) [03:09] (oops, I misread there for a bit) [03:12] highvoltage: Fun fun, I saw a wallpaper and da and thought of you today, [03:12] let me dig it up [03:16] highvoltage: http://fav.me/d398q54 [03:17] But I also just saw this one, you have to check it out: http://fav.me/d398ufo [03:17] heh [03:18] you get narwhals with... tusks!? [03:26] highvoltage: You don't, that's creative license. [03:28] heh, yes [13:23] good morning everyone [13:41] morning [16:04] having problems logging on w/ my ltsp clients... anyone willing to listen? [16:06] pam validates user, subsystem request sftp, receives disconnect from client [16:06] ltsp standalone running on Ubuntu 10.10 [18:04] highvoltage: Ello [19:55] doctormo: heya [19:55] doctormo: busy putting together email for you now... [19:56] thanks [19:57] doctormo: I didn't get any feedback, seems like people don't care about wallpapers until release :) [19:57] doctormo: sending you wants/don't-wants/mood stuff, don't have much in terms of definition and concept yet though [20:11] highvoltage: You'll get your 5 concepts, your team must pick one from there and then we'll work on it more from there. 3 times to get it right. [20:12] highvoltage: Although you've got a double negative in your requirements, I should clarify that line [20:13] You say "Do not want something not /too/ cartoonish", but this means you want something cartoonish. [20:14] highvoltage: See http://fav.me/d39apk5 for fun, please feedback me. [20:17] doctormo: I guess that's not too much so, you can drop that requirement if you want [20:17] highvoltage: No, you misunderstand, I just need you to clarify what you said. [20:18] doctormo: ok, you pasted me your debian squeeze wallpaper, which is really great and would be perfect... if it wasn't squeeze themed and had a debian logo :) [20:39] highvoltage: You still here? [20:40] Keep in mind that this is very raw concept stage, look at this http://imagebin.org/137416 [20:40] It's based on the debian squeeze one, but with the edubuntu logo. [20:41] I'm still coming up with a way to do the person, and who/what the person should be. [20:46] doctormo: ok, great. we'd like to avoid having logos on the wallpaper (sorry that's an obvious one I should've mentioned to you before), but yes, it can work. I know you like manga-style drawings but I think that might be what we'd consider "too cartoonish" if you know what I mean [20:47] doctormo: do you think you could make a daytime version work? [20:47] hmm, I guess that would mean losing the nice colours [20:47] highvoltage: OK I'm scrapping the concept. [20:47] Because everything about it is wrong ;-) [20:48] Although requirements are so important that you need to really list everything, even obvious things. [20:50] highvoltage: So I need to do a little bit of training with you so you know how to make requirements. [20:50] sorry, I mentioned it so many times before to jbaer before, we had it on the previous spec, I should've copied and pasted more from there [20:50] I need to understand the mood of the piece you want. So far you've not really gone into the emotion much. [20:50] Your document has grouped my three things into one and then split into two bullets. [20:51] I really need an answer per question [20:51] I think I can decypher what info should go in what box, but it's important to be more direct. [20:52] doctormo: The thing you need to understand is that we don't have all those answers. For the missing parts we need an artist, someone like you. If I could show you a picture of what we want, then we wouldn't need you in the first place now would we? [20:52] highvoltage: Obviously, but if you ask an artist to do the specification, you must be happy with whatever he comes up with. [20:53] Anyway, I'll continue to hack away at the remaining 4 concepts and present them to you at the end of next week. [20:53] Hopefully we can move from there. [20:54] doctormo: indeed, although right at the beginning I did explicitely tell you that we have some basic requirements and the rest are basically left to artistic license [20:54] doctormo: yes, I hope so too :) [20:54] yea, I admit I've been trying to push you towards nailing it down, because I fear rejection of hard work at the end. [20:54] But i'll trust you on this one. [20:57] doctormo: yes, I understand that [20:59] doctormo: in concept, I actually like the girl sitting on the hill, I didn't reject that, but I think that could be a good wallpaper if she was less manga-ey, and perhaps sitting under a tree or something. I'm not sure how much off a concept is allowed to change before you consider it rejected [20:59] in the end we just need one good wallpaper, so one good concept that can be seen through to the end would even be enough imho. but then again I trust you to know best === ogra is now known as Guest95972