[01:12] <edubuntu> sup buntus?
[01:55] <doctormo> highvoltage: How's the info for the background going?
[02:12] <highvoltage> doctormo: I didn't get any feedback on the list, so I'm going to put together what I think will be great and people will have to be happy with what they get :)
[02:14] <doctormo> highvoltage: We'll so a 5,1,3 pattern if that's ok with you? 5 concepts, 1 selection, 3 consultations and updates.
[02:55] <highvoltage> doctormo: sounds good
[02:56] <doctormo> highvoltage: Ah, yes, forgot what I said for a second
[03:09] <highvoltage> doctormo: that's a long second :)
[03:09] <highvoltage> (oops, I misread there for a bit)
[03:12] <doctormo> highvoltage: Fun fun, I saw a wallpaper and da and thought of you today,
[03:12] <doctormo> let me dig it up
[03:16] <doctormo> highvoltage: http://fav.me/d398q54
[03:17] <doctormo> But I also just saw this one, you have to check it out: http://fav.me/d398ufo
[03:17] <highvoltage> heh
[03:18] <highvoltage> you get narwhals with... tusks!?
[03:26] <doctormo> highvoltage: You don't, that's creative license.
[03:28] <highvoltage> heh, yes
[13:23] <mgariepy> good morning everyone
[13:41] <mhall119> morning
[16:04] <Dunc_> having problems logging on w/ my ltsp clients...  anyone willing to listen?
[16:06] <Dunc_> pam validates user, subsystem request sftp, receives disconnect from client
[16:06] <Dunc_> ltsp standalone running on Ubuntu 10.10
[18:04] <doctormo> highvoltage: Ello
[19:55] <highvoltage> doctormo: heya
[19:55] <highvoltage> doctormo: busy putting together email for you now...
[19:56] <doctormo> thanks
[19:57] <highvoltage> doctormo: I didn't get any feedback, seems like people don't care about wallpapers until release :)
[19:57] <highvoltage> doctormo: sending you wants/don't-wants/mood stuff, don't have much in terms of definition and concept yet though
[20:11] <doctormo> highvoltage: You'll get your 5 concepts, your team must pick one from there and then we'll work on it more from there. 3 times to get it right.
[20:12] <doctormo> highvoltage: Although you've got a double negative in your requirements, I should clarify that line
[20:13] <doctormo> You say "Do not want something not /too/ cartoonish", but this means you want something cartoonish.
[20:14] <doctormo> highvoltage: See http://fav.me/d39apk5 for fun, please feedback me.
[20:17] <highvoltage> doctormo: I guess that's not too much so, you can drop that requirement if you want
[20:17] <doctormo> highvoltage: No, you misunderstand, I just need you to clarify what you said.
[20:18] <highvoltage> doctormo: ok, you pasted me your debian squeeze wallpaper, which is really great and would be perfect... if it wasn't squeeze themed and had a debian logo :)
[20:39] <doctormo> highvoltage: You still here?
[20:40] <doctormo> Keep in mind that this is very raw concept stage, look at this http://imagebin.org/137416
[20:40] <doctormo> It's based on the debian squeeze one, but with the edubuntu logo.
[20:41] <doctormo> I'm still coming up with a way to do the person, and who/what the person should be.
[20:46] <highvoltage> doctormo: ok, great. we'd like to avoid having logos on the wallpaper (sorry that's an obvious one I should've mentioned to you before), but yes, it can work. I know you like manga-style drawings but I think that might be what we'd consider "too cartoonish" if you know what I mean
[20:47] <highvoltage> doctormo: do you think you could make a daytime version work?
[20:47] <highvoltage> hmm, I guess that would mean losing the nice colours
[20:47] <doctormo> highvoltage: OK I'm scrapping the concept.
[20:47] <doctormo> Because everything about it is wrong ;-)
[20:48] <doctormo> Although requirements are so important that you need to really list everything, even obvious things.
[20:50] <doctormo> highvoltage: So I need to do a little bit of training with you so you know how to make requirements.
[20:50] <highvoltage> sorry, I mentioned it so many times before to jbaer before, we had it on the previous spec, I should've copied and pasted more from there
[20:50] <doctormo> I need to understand the mood of the piece you want. So far you've not really gone into the emotion much.
[20:50] <doctormo> Your document has grouped my three things into one and then split into two bullets.
[20:51] <doctormo> I really need an answer per question
[20:51] <doctormo> I think I can decypher what info should go in what box, but it's important to be more direct.
[20:52] <highvoltage> doctormo: The thing you need to understand is that we don't have all those answers. For the missing parts we need an artist, someone like you. If I could show you a picture of what we want, then we wouldn't need you in the first place now would we?
[20:52] <doctormo> highvoltage: Obviously, but if you ask an artist to do the specification, you must be happy with whatever he comes up with.
[20:53] <doctormo> Anyway, I'll continue to hack away at the remaining 4 concepts and present them to you at the end of next week.
[20:53] <doctormo> Hopefully we can move from there.
[20:54] <highvoltage> doctormo: indeed, although right at the beginning I did explicitely tell you that we have some basic requirements and the rest are basically left to artistic license
[20:54] <highvoltage> doctormo: yes, I hope so too :)
[20:54] <doctormo> yea, I admit I've been trying to push you towards nailing it down, because I fear rejection of hard work at the end.
[20:54] <doctormo> But i'll trust you on this one.
[20:57] <highvoltage> doctormo: yes, I understand that
[20:59] <highvoltage> doctormo: in concept, I actually like the girl sitting on the hill, I didn't reject that, but I think that could be a good wallpaper if she was less manga-ey, and perhaps sitting under a tree or something. I'm not sure how much off a concept is allowed to change before you consider it rejected
[20:59] <highvoltage> in the end we just need one good wallpaper, so one good concept that can be seen through to the end would even be enough imho. but then again I trust you to know best