FloridaGuy | when will kde 4.6.0 go from backports to the main repo | 02:19 |
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coz_ | oo hey guys... am I seeing this correctly?/ it;s ok to update with nvidia? | 02:21 |
coz_ | ho nevermind I guess not | 02:22 |
delt | uh... natty-desktop-i386.iso gave me a black screen with the kde mouse that i could move around, now the "recommended" kubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso just freezes with 2 keyboard leds flashing (caps,num) | 02:24 |
delt | *sigh* trying kubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386.iso ...... | 02:25 |
delt | can't be defective CPU -or- memory, unless maybe the memtest included on the cd is sabotaged to NOT report errors | 02:27 |
delt | suggestions...? | 02:29 |
charlie-tca | report a kernel panic | 02:33 |
delt | good idea. | 02:37 |
delt | hello, i'd report a kernel panic caused by your shitty software | 02:37 |
delt | thanks a lot | 02:38 |
rww | It amazes me how averse users of unstable development versions of software are to actually reporting bugs. | 02:41 |
charlie-tca | yes, somewhere along the way they miss the "it is alpha, unstable, and subject to breaking" too | 02:44 |
charlie-tca | anyone available to verify a bug in firefox 4.0b11 ? | 02:58 |
throughnothing | howdy, is anyone using couchdb in natty? | 04:22 |
Spirits-Sight | has the issue with nvidia been fixed | 04:52 |
zzillezz | hmm can't install firefox :( | 07:34 |
zzillezz | " trying to overwrite '/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop', which is also in package kubuntu-firefox-installer 11.04ubuntu1 " | 07:34 |
susundberg | bug in package :/ | 07:34 |
susundberg | try to remove installer and then install the real thing? | 07:35 |
zzillezz | alright, let's try :) | 07:35 |
zzillezz | susundberg: it worked :-) | 07:37 |
zzillezz | thanks | 07:37 |
susundberg | \o/ | 07:37 |
zzillezz | :) | 07:37 |
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qzio | is it just me or is there a bug in gnome-terminal? the menu bar is there by default, even though i've turned it off, and if I have multiple terminal's open, and view->showmenu bar toggle all the other will still have it, and if i do on a second one, the first will get it back. | 13:18 |
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genii-around | Hm. "changelog is a binary file. See it anyway?" | 14:55 |
Pici | Thats weird. | 14:58 |
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pr0ph3t | hi all | 15:43 |
pr0ph3t | do you have a nautilus menu bar at the top of the desktop in classic ubuntu desktop or is it just me? | 15:44 |
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kukuNut | kubuntu just blank screen+ white mouse. any idea to recover? got rid of .kde but no luck. ready to reinstall daily but got the same from live cd | 16:34 |
kukuNut | ati card with radeon driver | 16:36 |
kukuNut | kubuntu+1 users? | 16:37 |
brot | kukuNut: what card do you have? | 16:41 |
kukuNut | brot ati card and using the radeon driver | 16:42 |
brot | kukuNut: like ati only sells one card right now. | 16:42 |
kukuNut | am guessing plasma is borked? | 16:42 |
yofel | works for me currently with nvdia and nouveau, I didn't restart kde after that last updates today though | 16:44 |
kukuNut | yofel: could go straight to 'install' instead of 'try' but hate it if I get the same after :( | 16:47 |
yofel | does krunner work? if yes you could check in ~/.xsession-errors where it failed | 16:48 |
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yofel | or check from a tty | 16:48 |
kukuNut | yofel: nothing works if you mean alt+f2? | 16:48 |
yofel | yeah, alt+f2, then check from tty | 16:48 |
kukuNut | kdm from a tty is the same | 16:48 |
yofel | and what does .xsession-errors say? | 16:49 |
kukuNut | ah have to check that. but looks like x is ok except that I just see black screen. mouse is working | 16:50 |
kukuNut | am in a 10/04 right now | 16:50 |
kukuNut | yofel: mostly nepomuk/soprano stuff | 16:54 |
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yofel | no idea then | 16:55 |
kukuNut | yofel: thanks anyway.. | 16:56 |
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hv | is it possible to get natty without unity at the moment? | 17:25 |
KuKuNut | yofel: kubuntu at least for me is not playing well with ati card? | 17:25 |
KuKuNut | yofel: was able to recover but with lubuntu-core | 17:26 |
hv | (compiz 0.9.x without unity, with working indicator applets) | 17:26 |
charlie-tca | hv: choose classic session (no effect) at login | 17:28 |
charlie-tca | gets you Natty without unity and compiz | 17:29 |
hv | charlie-tca: without compiz? how about compiz without unity (and builtin panels)? | 17:33 |
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Daekdroom | hv, choose Classic Session | 17:51 |
Daekdroom | hv, the (No effect) makes it use metacity instead of compiz. | 17:51 |
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coz_ | hey all | 18:19 |
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cousin_mario | hello | 18:34 |
cousin_mario | I've tried running Unity on VirtualBox with no luck. Are there plans to support it? | 18:35 |
zniavre_ | vbox 4 is supposed to but it does not work here | 18:36 |
cousin_mario | neither here, that's why I'm asking:/ | 18:36 |
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jmgalloway | anyone know why the ubuntu freezes at the language selection screen? | 20:16 |
orbisvicis | can someone do me a favor, run ls -lah /dev/audio, ls -lah /dev/input/event0, and getfacl /dev/input/event0 ? | 20:29 |
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orbisvicis | (im not on ubuntu, but I want to see how it does something) | 20:30 |
orbisvicis | then check in /lib/udev/rules.d/70-acl.rules to see if anything matches KERNEL=="event*", SUBSYSTEM=="input" ? | 20:32 |
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nailora | i just upgraded from maverick to natty and was left behind with no working bootloader. are there any related known problems? | 21:20 |
nailora | i did not really try to debug it but used an old cd to install a grub 1 bootloader. | 21:21 |
FloridaGuy | upgraded kubuntu 10.10 to 11.04...everything was fine until i installed nvidia in 11.04..now 11.04 wont boot | 21:44 |
yofel | FloridaGuy: there is no working nvidia driver for our x server | 21:47 |
yofel | drop to tty, apt-get remove nvidia-current (or what you installed) - delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf and reboot | 21:48 |
FloridaGuy | yofel: then why is there nvidia drivers..displayed in jockey...and how can i remove them when it wont boot | 21:49 |
FloridaGuy | or show i do xorg while im in the live cd | 21:50 |
yofel | I just told you how to remove them (you get to tty with ctrl+alt+f2 from frozen screen, maybe press alt+print+k first) | 21:50 |
yofel | and the nvidia drivers shouldn't be installable - or that bug still isn't fixed.. | 21:51 |
FloridaGuy | yofel: can i install nvidia from nvidia web site | 21:51 |
yofel | no | 21:51 |
yofel | neither supported, nor does the current beta driver work | 21:52 |
yofel | watch the x-updates PPA - that'll have a working driver as soon as nvidia releases one | 21:52 |
FloridaGuy | whats the problem that nvidia doest work | 21:52 |
yofel | the driver isn't abi compatible with current X server 1.10 - they need to update their binary driver | 21:53 |
FloridaGuy | ok | 21:53 |
FloridaGuy | so wouldent it be best..to keep what works with everything..until the other is updated | 21:54 |
yofel | well yeah, you can keep the old xserver packages back together with nvidia | 21:55 |
FloridaGuy | should i delete this one to... xorg.conf.failsafe | 21:56 |
yofel | FloridaGuy: xorg.conf should be enough | 22:00 |
FloridaGuy | k | 22:00 |
FloridaGuy | thanks | 22:01 |
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FloridaGuy | yofel: got nvidia out now....now im back on the distro..11.04....you said i could put old xserver back to use nvidia | 22:10 |
ktosiek | Hi! There is collision between nvidia-current an xorg in natty | 22:10 |
ktosiek | is there any way around it? | 22:11 |
yofel | well, downgrading is a bit hard.. | 22:11 |
yofel | ktosiek: not yet | 22:11 |
FloridaGuy | yofel: xorg wasent installed but i installed it | 22:11 |
yofel | FloridaGuy: you could add maverick sources and downgrade X using that - but you would have to downgrade a lot... rather stick to nouveau | 22:11 |
yofel | it's easy if you have an old natty install and just keep the packages back, but backwards is complicated | 22:12 |
ktosiek | yofel: would it work if I changed nvidia-current to not claim providing "xserver-xorg-video-8"? | 22:12 |
Volkodav | Does nouveau support dual head ? | 22:12 |
yofel | ktosiek: no - as nvidia doesn't have any driver that works either currently | 22:12 |
yofel | ktosiek: watch the x-updates PPA for a driver newer than 270.18 | 22:13 |
ktosiek | thanks! | 22:13 |
FloridaGuy | if that the case i better off going back to 10.10 | 22:13 |
yofel | should be out soon -- I hope! | 22:13 |
rww | huzzah proprietary software | 22:13 |
yofel | rww: nvidia works - nouveau doesn't | 22:13 |
ktosiek | python curses looks broken | 22:18 |
ktosiek | it segfaults when starting canto :-/ | 22:18 |
rww | yofel: given the people talking about nvidia-current, this statement confuses me :\ | 22:20 |
* rww shrugs, buys ATI anyway and <3 -radeon | 22:21 | |
yofel | well, nvidia does sometimes break with new X - but when it work then it works fine | 22:21 |
yofel | as for nouveau - that freezes at a random time between 20s and 6h on my notebook - which makes it pretty unusable | 22:22 |
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rmcbride | nouveau doesn't recognize the HDMI attached external monitor on my laptop, OR the native resolution for the laptop's own display, so its absolutely unusable for me | 23:58 |
rmcbride | (filed bugs on both last week) | 23:58 |
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