/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/02/11/#ubuntu+1.txt

FloridaGuywhen will kde 4.6.0 go from backports to the main repo02:19
coz_oo hey guys... am I seeing this correctly?/ it;s ok to update with nvidia?02:21
coz_ho nevermind   I guess not02:22
deltuh... natty-desktop-i386.iso gave me a black screen with the kde mouse that i could move around, now the "recommended" kubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso just freezes with 2 keyboard leds flashing (caps,num)02:24
delt*sigh* trying kubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386.iso ......02:25
deltcan't be defective CPU -or- memory, unless maybe the memtest included on the cd is sabotaged to NOT report errors02:27
deltsuggestions...?02:29
charlie-tcareport a kernel panic02:33
deltgood idea.02:37
delthello, i'd report a kernel panic caused by your shitty software02:37
deltthanks a lot02:38
rwwIt amazes me how averse users of unstable development versions of software are to actually reporting bugs.02:41
charlie-tcayes, somewhere along the way they miss the "it is alpha, unstable, and subject to breaking" too02:44
charlie-tcaanyone available to verify a bug in firefox 4.0b11 ?02:58
throughnothinghowdy, is anyone using couchdb in natty?04:22
Spirits-Sighthas the issue with nvidia been fixed04:52
zzillezzhmm can't install firefox :(07:34
zzillezz" trying to overwrite '/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop', which is also in package kubuntu-firefox-installer 11.04ubuntu1 "07:34
susundbergbug in package :/07:34
susundbergtry to remove installer and then install the real thing?07:35
zzillezzalright, let's try :)07:35
zzillezzsusundberg: it worked :-)07:37
zzillezzthanks07:37
susundberg\o/07:37
zzillezz:)07:37
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qziois it just me or is there a bug in gnome-terminal? the menu bar is there by default, even though i've turned it off, and if I have multiple terminal's open, and view->showmenu bar  toggle all the other will still have it, and if i do on a second one, the first will get it back.13:18
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genii-aroundHm. "changelog is a binary file. See it anyway?"14:55
PiciThats weird.14:58
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pr0ph3thi all15:43
pr0ph3tdo you have a nautilus menu bar at the top of the desktop in classic ubuntu desktop or is it just me?15:44
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kukuNutkubuntu just blank screen+ white mouse. any idea to recover? got rid of .kde but no luck. ready to reinstall daily but got the same from live cd16:34
kukuNutati card with radeon driver16:36
kukuNutkubuntu+1 users?16:37
brotkukuNut: what card do you have?16:41
kukuNutbrot ati card and using the radeon driver16:42
brotkukuNut: like ati only sells one card right now.16:42
kukuNutam guessing plasma is borked?16:42
yofelworks for me currently with nvdia and nouveau, I didn't restart kde after that last updates today though16:44
kukuNutyofel: could go straight to 'install' instead of 'try' but hate it if I get the same after :(16:47
yofeldoes krunner work? if yes you could check in ~/.xsession-errors where it failed16:48
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yofelor check from a tty16:48
kukuNutyofel: nothing works if you mean alt+f2?16:48
yofelyeah, alt+f2, then check from tty16:48
kukuNutkdm from a tty is the same16:48
yofeland what does .xsession-errors say?16:49
kukuNutah have to check that. but looks like x is ok except that I just see black screen. mouse is working16:50
kukuNutam in a 10/04 right now16:50
kukuNutyofel: mostly nepomuk/soprano stuff16:54
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yofelno idea then16:55
kukuNutyofel: thanks anyway..16:56
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hvis it possible to get natty without unity at the moment?17:25
KuKuNutyofel: kubuntu at least for me is not playing well with ati card?17:25
KuKuNutyofel: was able to recover but with lubuntu-core17:26
hv(compiz 0.9.x without unity, with working indicator applets)17:26
charlie-tcahv: choose classic session (no effect) at login17:28
charlie-tcagets you Natty without unity and compiz17:29
hvcharlie-tca: without compiz? how about compiz without unity (and builtin panels)?17:33
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Daekdroomhv, choose Classic Session17:51
Daekdroomhv, the (No effect) makes it use metacity instead of compiz.17:51
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coz_hey all18:19
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cousin_mariohello18:34
cousin_marioI've tried running Unity on VirtualBox with no luck. Are there plans to support it?18:35
zniavre_vbox 4 is supposed to but it does not work here18:36
cousin_marioneither here, that's why I'm asking:/18:36
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jmgallowayanyone know why the ubuntu freezes at the language selection screen?20:16
orbisviciscan someone do me a favor, run ls -lah /dev/audio, ls -lah /dev/input/event0, and getfacl /dev/input/event0 ?20:29
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orbisvicis(im not on ubuntu, but I want to see how it does something)20:30
orbisvicisthen check in /lib/udev/rules.d/70-acl.rules to see if anything matches KERNEL=="event*", SUBSYSTEM=="input" ?20:32
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nailorai just upgraded from maverick to natty and was left behind with no working bootloader. are there any related known problems?21:20
nailorai did not really try to debug it but used an old cd to install a grub 1 bootloader.21:21
FloridaGuyupgraded kubuntu 10.10 to 11.04...everything was fine until i installed nvidia in 11.04..now 11.04 wont boot21:44
yofelFloridaGuy: there is no working nvidia driver for our x server21:47
yofeldrop to tty, apt-get remove nvidia-current (or what you installed) - delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf and reboot21:48
FloridaGuyyofel: then why is there nvidia drivers..displayed in jockey...and how can i remove them when it wont boot21:49
FloridaGuyor show i do xorg while im in the live cd21:50
yofelI just told you how to remove them (you get to tty with ctrl+alt+f2 from frozen screen, maybe press alt+print+k first)21:50
yofeland the nvidia drivers shouldn't be installable - or that bug still isn't fixed..21:51
FloridaGuyyofel: can i install nvidia from nvidia web site21:51
yofelno21:51
yofelneither supported, nor does the current beta driver work21:52
yofelwatch the x-updates PPA - that'll have a working driver as soon as nvidia releases one21:52
FloridaGuywhats the problem that nvidia doest work21:52
yofelthe driver isn't abi compatible with current X server 1.10 - they need to update their binary driver21:53
FloridaGuyok21:53
FloridaGuyso wouldent it be best..to keep what works with everything..until the other is updated21:54
yofelwell yeah, you can keep the old xserver packages back together with nvidia21:55
FloridaGuyshould i delete this one to... xorg.conf.failsafe21:56
yofelFloridaGuy: xorg.conf should be enough22:00
FloridaGuyk22:00
FloridaGuythanks22:01
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FloridaGuyyofel: got nvidia out now....now im back on the distro..11.04....you said i could put old xserver back to use nvidia22:10
ktosiekHi! There is collision between nvidia-current an xorg in natty22:10
ktosiekis there any way around it?22:11
yofelwell, downgrading is a bit hard..22:11
yofelktosiek: not yet22:11
FloridaGuyyofel: xorg wasent installed but i installed it22:11
yofelFloridaGuy: you could add maverick sources and downgrade X using that - but you would have to downgrade a lot... rather stick to nouveau22:11
yofelit's easy if you have an old natty install and just keep the packages back, but backwards is complicated22:12
ktosiekyofel: would it work if I changed nvidia-current to not claim providing "xserver-xorg-video-8"?22:12
VolkodavDoes nouveau support dual head ?22:12
yofelktosiek: no - as nvidia doesn't have any driver that works either currently22:12
yofelktosiek: watch the x-updates PPA for a driver newer than 270.1822:13
ktosiekthanks!22:13
FloridaGuyif that the case i better off going back to 10.1022:13
yofelshould be out soon -- I hope!22:13
rwwhuzzah proprietary software22:13
yofelrww: nvidia works - nouveau doesn't22:13
ktosiekpython curses looks broken22:18
ktosiekit segfaults when starting canto :-/22:18
rwwyofel: given the people talking about nvidia-current, this statement confuses me :\22:20
* rww shrugs, buys ATI anyway and <3 -radeon22:21
yofelwell, nvidia does sometimes break with new X - but when it work then it works fine22:21
yofelas for nouveau - that freezes at a random time between 20s and 6h on my notebook - which makes it pretty unusable22:22
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rmcbridenouveau doesn't recognize the HDMI attached external monitor on my laptop, OR the native resolution for the laptop's own display, so its absolutely unusable for me23:58
rmcbride(filed bugs on both last week)23:58

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