[02:19] when will kde 4.6.0 go from backports to the main repo [02:21] oo hey guys... am I seeing this correctly?/ it;s ok to update with nvidia? [02:22] ho nevermind I guess not [02:24] uh... natty-desktop-i386.iso gave me a black screen with the kde mouse that i could move around, now the "recommended" kubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso just freezes with 2 keyboard leds flashing (caps,num) [02:25] *sigh* trying kubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386.iso ...... [02:27] can't be defective CPU -or- memory, unless maybe the memtest included on the cd is sabotaged to NOT report errors [02:29] suggestions...? [02:33] report a kernel panic [02:37] good idea. [02:37] hello, i'd report a kernel panic caused by your shitty software [02:38] thanks a lot [02:41] It amazes me how averse users of unstable development versions of software are to actually reporting bugs. [02:44] yes, somewhere along the way they miss the "it is alpha, unstable, and subject to breaking" too [02:58] anyone available to verify a bug in firefox 4.0b11 ? [04:22] howdy, is anyone using couchdb in natty? [04:52] has the issue with nvidia been fixed [07:34] hmm can't install firefox :( [07:34] " trying to overwrite '/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop', which is also in package kubuntu-firefox-installer 11.04ubuntu1 " [07:34] bug in package :/ [07:35] try to remove installer and then install the real thing? [07:35] alright, let's try :) [07:37] susundberg: it worked :-) [07:37] thanks [07:37] \o/ [07:37] :) === evilvish is now known as vish === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:18] is it just me or is there a bug in gnome-terminal? the menu bar is there by default, even though i've turned it off, and if I have multiple terminal's open, and view->showmenu bar toggle all the other will still have it, and if i do on a second one, the first will get it back. === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === gord_ is now known as gord [14:55] Hm. "changelog is a binary file. See it anyway?" [14:58] Thats weird. === el2ro is now known as 52AAAG5O2 === Seeker`_ is now known as Seeker === AndrewMC` is now known as AndrewMC === bac` is now known as bac [15:43] hi all [15:44] do you have a nautilus menu bar at the top of the desktop in classic ubuntu desktop or is it just me? === LjL-Temp` is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest44016 [16:34] kubuntu just blank screen+ white mouse. any idea to recover? got rid of .kde but no luck. ready to reinstall daily but got the same from live cd [16:36] ati card with radeon driver [16:37] kubuntu+1 users? [16:41] kukuNut: what card do you have? [16:42] brot ati card and using the radeon driver [16:42] kukuNut: like ati only sells one card right now. [16:42] am guessing plasma is borked? [16:44] works for me currently with nvdia and nouveau, I didn't restart kde after that last updates today though [16:47] yofel: could go straight to 'install' instead of 'try' but hate it if I get the same after :( [16:48] does krunner work? if yes you could check in ~/.xsession-errors where it failed === arand_ is now known as arand [16:48] or check from a tty [16:48] yofel: nothing works if you mean alt+f2? [16:48] yeah, alt+f2, then check from tty [16:48] kdm from a tty is the same [16:49] and what does .xsession-errors say? [16:50] ah have to check that. but looks like x is ok except that I just see black screen. mouse is working [16:50] am in a 10/04 right now [16:54] yofel: mostly nepomuk/soprano stuff === Adys is now known as Adys` === Adys` is now known as Adys [16:55] no idea then [16:56] yofel: thanks anyway.. === Guest44016 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest26742 [17:25] is it possible to get natty without unity at the moment? [17:25] yofel: kubuntu at least for me is not playing well with ati card? [17:26] yofel: was able to recover but with lubuntu-core [17:26] (compiz 0.9.x without unity, with working indicator applets) [17:28] hv: choose classic session (no effect) at login [17:29] gets you Natty without unity and compiz [17:33] charlie-tca: without compiz? how about compiz without unity (and builtin panels)? === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [17:51] hv, choose Classic Session [17:51] hv, the (No effect) makes it use metacity instead of compiz. === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube === Guest26742 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest80098 [18:19] hey all === Seeker is now known as Seeker` [18:34] hello [18:35] I've tried running Unity on VirtualBox with no luck. Are there plans to support it? [18:36] vbox 4 is supposed to but it does not work here [18:36] neither here, that's why I'm asking:/ === arand_ is now known as arand === Guest80098 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest34505 === Adys is now known as Adys` === Adys` is now known as Adys === Guest34505 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest44956 [20:16] anyone know why the ubuntu freezes at the language selection screen? [20:29] can someone do me a favor, run ls -lah /dev/audio, ls -lah /dev/input/event0, and getfacl /dev/input/event0 ? === KB1JWQ_ is now known as KB1JWQ [20:30] (im not on ubuntu, but I want to see how it does something) [20:32] then check in /lib/udev/rules.d/70-acl.rules to see if anything matches KERNEL=="event*", SUBSYSTEM=="input" ? === Guest44956 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest12892 [21:20] i just upgraded from maverick to natty and was left behind with no working bootloader. are there any related known problems? [21:21] i did not really try to debug it but used an old cd to install a grub 1 bootloader. [21:44] upgraded kubuntu 10.10 to 11.04...everything was fine until i installed nvidia in 11.04..now 11.04 wont boot [21:47] FloridaGuy: there is no working nvidia driver for our x server [21:48] drop to tty, apt-get remove nvidia-current (or what you installed) - delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf and reboot [21:49] yofel: then why is there nvidia drivers..displayed in jockey...and how can i remove them when it wont boot [21:50] or show i do xorg while im in the live cd [21:50] I just told you how to remove them (you get to tty with ctrl+alt+f2 from frozen screen, maybe press alt+print+k first) [21:51] and the nvidia drivers shouldn't be installable - or that bug still isn't fixed.. [21:51] yofel: can i install nvidia from nvidia web site [21:51] no [21:52] neither supported, nor does the current beta driver work [21:52] watch the x-updates PPA - that'll have a working driver as soon as nvidia releases one [21:52] whats the problem that nvidia doest work [21:53] the driver isn't abi compatible with current X server 1.10 - they need to update their binary driver [21:53] ok [21:54] so wouldent it be best..to keep what works with everything..until the other is updated [21:55] well yeah, you can keep the old xserver packages back together with nvidia [21:56] should i delete this one to... xorg.conf.failsafe [22:00] FloridaGuy: xorg.conf should be enough [22:00] k [22:01] thanks === Guest12892 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest4016 [22:10] yofel: got nvidia out now....now im back on the distro..11.04....you said i could put old xserver back to use nvidia [22:10] Hi! There is collision between nvidia-current an xorg in natty [22:11] is there any way around it? [22:11] well, downgrading is a bit hard.. [22:11] ktosiek: not yet [22:11] yofel: xorg wasent installed but i installed it [22:11] FloridaGuy: you could add maverick sources and downgrade X using that - but you would have to downgrade a lot... rather stick to nouveau [22:12] it's easy if you have an old natty install and just keep the packages back, but backwards is complicated [22:12] yofel: would it work if I changed nvidia-current to not claim providing "xserver-xorg-video-8"? [22:12] Does nouveau support dual head ? [22:12] ktosiek: no - as nvidia doesn't have any driver that works either currently [22:13] ktosiek: watch the x-updates PPA for a driver newer than 270.18 [22:13] thanks! [22:13] if that the case i better off going back to 10.10 [22:13] should be out soon -- I hope! [22:13] huzzah proprietary software [22:13] rww: nvidia works - nouveau doesn't [22:18] python curses looks broken [22:18] it segfaults when starting canto :-/ [22:20] yofel: given the people talking about nvidia-current, this statement confuses me :\ [22:21] * rww shrugs, buys ATI anyway and <3 -radeon [22:21] well, nvidia does sometimes break with new X - but when it work then it works fine [22:22] as for nouveau - that freezes at a random time between 20s and 6h on my notebook - which makes it pretty unusable === Guest4016 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest73761 [23:58] nouveau doesn't recognize the HDMI attached external monitor on my laptop, OR the native resolution for the laptop's own display, so its absolutely unusable for me [23:58] (filed bugs on both last week)