[11:41] <CIA-4> partman-auto: evand * r586 partman-auto.ubuntu/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Add an option to reuse an existing installation.
[12:55] <CIA-4> ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: evand * r312 ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ (19 files in 13 dirs): Marco Biscaro uploaded without using bzr.
[13:09] <cjwatson> ev: bug 711965 seems like it must be a ubiquity bug (since the difference is essentially maybe-ubiquity), but it's weird that he can't get to a tty.  Any thoughts?
[13:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 711965 in casper "Natty live CD fails to complete boot w/o user interaction" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711965
[13:58] <ev> I'm going to suggest he edit the kernel command line to add maybe-ubiquity and remove quiet splash, to get a better idea of what's going on.
[13:58] <ev> cjwatson: apologies, was at lunch
[14:02] <CIA-4> ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: evand * r313 ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ (227 files in 6 dirs): Update translations from Launchpad.
[14:03] <cjwatson> ev: oh no problem, thanks
[14:21] <CIA-4> ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: evand * r314 ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 31
[14:26] <NCommander> cjwatson: hey, you about, I want to discuss the possibility of doing a full re-write of flash-kernel to use archdetect and drop the vast majority of the current Debian specific code
[14:28] <cjwatson> I would much rather you had that conversation with the people in Debian who care about flash-kernel, honestly
[14:28] <cjwatson> I don't know enough about it
[14:29] <cjwatson> look up names in the changelog perhaps?  e.g. tbm might well have useful thoughts
[14:31] <NCommander> cjwatson: actually, I kinda want to break from Debian. The Debian flash-kernel and the Ubuntu one have already significantly diverged, and with the move to use archdetect-deb vs. /proc/cpuinfo, that diff is still going to continue to increase. As Debian currently targets mostly embedded platforms, and we're targetting desktop like, we're not gaining a lot by having a common codebase
[14:32] <cjwatson> why not call yours something else then?
[14:32] <cjwatson> I'm generally not going to support complete rewrites, TBH
[14:32] <cjwatson> but if you want a separate tool, that's up to you
[14:34] <NCommander> cjwatson: that's acceptable and understandable, in that case, what's your stance in using a new tool over f-k in d-i or ubiquity?
[14:35] <ev> before I proceed, can anyone come up with a good reason why I shouldn't have a separate oem-config-slideshow-ubuntu binary package instead of keeping the ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu package on the target system?  So far it's only a s/installing/configuring/g.
[14:36] <cjwatson> NCommander: they shouldn't conflict, so it should be possible to include both
[14:36] <cjwatson> they can just each handle whichever subarchitectures they handle
[14:37] <cjwatson> ev: suppose it depends how much work it is to maintain that; I can't think of any other reasons
[14:37] <cjwatson> might be best to arrange for those binaries not to conflict though
[14:38] <cjwatson> ev: how's it going with bug 683260?
[14:38] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 683260 in casper "persistence doesn't work on liveusb" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683260
[14:38] <NCommander> cjwatson: I much perfer that idea
[14:38] <ev> they don't.  oem-config-slideshow-ubuntu does the conflicts, replaces, provides dance with oem-config-slideshow.
[14:39] <ev> cjwatson: thanks for the prod, firing up KVM now.
[14:42] <cjwatson> this KDE frontend keyboard configuration bug is a right nightmare
[14:42] <cjwatson> not entirely convinced it's KDE-specific, but not going to divert to check
[14:42] <ev> yikes, yeah, I was having a hard time following it as well
[14:44] <cjwatson> it's got something to do with the keyboard-configuration/store_defaults_in_debconf_db spaghetti mess
[14:44] <cjwatson> but simply blatting that to false causes a different set of problems
[15:36] <CIA-4> ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: evand * r316 ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 32
[15:40] <CIA-4> ubiquity: cjwatson * r4506 trunk/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/plugins/ubi-console-setup.py):
[15:40] <CIA-4> ubiquity: Tell keyboard-configuration not to write defaults in the debconf
[15:40] <CIA-4> ubiquity: database when we're in the process of changing the layout (LP: #705917).
[15:58] <gswallow> Hello, all.  I have another question; this time regarding ufw's debconf questions.  I have tried both ufw/allow_custom_ports and ufw/allow_known_ports, but neither of them seems to work. Is this supported?
[16:00] <cjwatson> gswallow: I don't know the details of ufw, but did you remember that the first field in your preseed file needs to be the package name rather than "d-i" when preseeding packages that aren't part of the installer?
[16:00] <gswallow> yes sir
[16:00] <cjwatson> you'd need to ask somebody who knows about ufw in particular then
[16:00] <gswallow> I'm poring through the syslog and I wonder if I included packages-preseed.txt in the wrong spot in the initial preseed.txt file.
[16:01] <cjwatson> ordering in the preseed file doesn't matter
[16:01] <cjwatson> think of it as a list of database assignments before you set everything off (in fact, that's pretty much what it is)
[16:02] <gswallow> ok
[16:41] <CIA-4> casper: evand * r861 casper/ (debian/changelog scripts/casper-helpers): Handle $cow_backing already being mounted elsewhere (LP: #683260).
[16:43] <CIA-4> casper: evand * r862 casper/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.257
[20:11] <jmgalloway> does anyone know why the installer hangs when I try to install ubuntu on a new machine?