[08:07] <dpm> good morning all
[08:07] <andrejz> morning
[08:07] <gtriderxc> hi
[08:07] <dpm> hey andrejz, hey gtriderxc
[08:08] <gtriderxc> will anyone help me with my yesterday's question?
[08:08] <gtriderxc> wchich was:
[08:08] <gtriderxc>  what is "Fallback Message "
 "Force Fallback Message to show"
 GNOME-session
 also "[...]Installing new driver can maybe be a help.\nYou should try the Ubuntu classic [...]" what is "/n"?
[08:09] <andrejz> i don't know what exactly this relates to, but fallback in the "backup" option
[08:10] <andrejz> so let's say you have compiz (or unity) and by default this should run
[08:10] <dpm> gtriderxc, the fallback message is the message shown to the user if, when logging in, it is detected that he/she hasn't got a 3D-capable graphics card. In this case, unity cannot be run and the session has to fall back to unity 2D or the classic desktop (the one with gnome-panel)
[08:10] <andrejz> if compiz crashes and cannot be autostarted as a fallback metacity will be used
[08:11] <gtriderxc> thanks and how about a "/n"?
[08:11] <dpm> gtriderxc, \n is a new line character. In general, you shouldn't see them in textual form as in here. This particular message has been rewritten to remove the "\n", but it hasn't yet made it into Launchpad, so I'd leave it without translation for now
[08:12] <dpm> until it is changed to something else
[08:12] <gtriderxc> ok I will
[08:12] <gtriderxc> so simply /n had to be &nbsp;
[08:12] <gtriderxc> or br rather
[09:13] <dpm> hi happyaron, do you think you could have a quick test to the zh_CN langpack for Lucid and add the result here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LanguagePackUpdatesQA ? It would be great if Chinese users got an update for 10.04.2
[09:13] <dpm> gtriderxc, the same for Polish, do you think you could test the langpack?
[09:13] <dpm> the same for anyone else on the channel, go test, spread the word! :)
[09:13] <gtriderxc> ok
[09:13] <andrejz> already done :)
[09:14] <dpm> gtriderxc, cool
[09:14] <dpm> even if you haven't got a Lucid machine, you can test them on a virtual machine with VirtualBox
[09:14] <dpm> andrejz, yeah, I saw it ;)
[09:14] <gtriderxc> zh_CN langpack - but what's that and where I can find it?
[09:16] <dpm> gtriderxc, no, that was for the Chinese guys. I was asking you if you could test the Polish language pack
[09:16] <gtriderxc> :)ok
[09:17] <dpm> you'll simply need a Lucid machine (it can be e.g. in VirtualBox) and have the lucid-proposed repositories enabled
[09:17] <dpm> then you can install the new language packs and test them following the procedure at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LanguagePackUpdatesQA
[09:18] <dpm> once finished, you can simply leave feedback on the table at the end of that page
[09:23] <gtriderxc> I need an hour to download and install 10.04. no problem
[09:29] <happyaron> dpm: will do it in a couple of hours, thanks!
[09:31] <andrejz> it's unfortunate there hasn't been enough time for more teams to test the translations
[09:35] <dpm> andrejz, I know, but we weren't expecting problems with the langpacks either. In any case, they can still test them until next week, which should give them more than enough time. For languages that are not in the CD, it does not make any difference if the packages are uploaded today or next week
[09:35] <andrejz> true
[09:35] <dpm> but yeah, as I said on the e-mail, I'm sorry it's been in such short notice nevertheless :(
[09:41] <andrejz> dpm, it might be possible for me to come to Budapest in May (not sure yet). But in the case I do, i will need some money from Canonical (for the place to stay). I was wondering if i can put your contact info to confirm the things i am going to write, since 95%  of the stuff i do is translation related.
[09:49] <dpm> andrejz, that runs through the sponsorship process. When the UDS announcement is made, we also make the announcement for the start of the sponsorship application. When that happens, applicants need to fill out a form and they get confirmation after a while if they've been accepted. If they are, their travel and stay expenses are paid (if they need them to be paid). I'll be happy to help when the sponsorship application is open :)
[09:50] <dpm> andrejz, here's more info: http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/sponsorship/
[09:50] <andrejz> ok, great, thanks
[09:52] <dpm> no worries :)
[19:21] <GatoLoko> hi
[19:24] <andrejz> hi
[19:24] <GatoLoko> I've been asked, and didn't found an answer, does ubuntu support dialects?
[19:24] <andrejz> in what sense do you mean?
[19:25] <andrejz> there are versions of languages like english us, english uk and australian english
[19:26] <andrejz> can you give an example of a dialect?
[19:26] <GatoLoko> you just did
[19:27] <happyaron> is there a 20110204.1 lucid language pack?
[19:27] <andrejz> @happyaron: i don't think so
[19:28] <happyaron> so firefox translations are missing?
[19:29] <andrejz> @GatoLoko: if your dialect is not there it's possible to add it. I think it might be even possible to copy all the strings from original language, so you only need to correct all the changes
[19:30] <GatoLoko> where can i find information about the procedure to do that?
[19:30] <GatoLoko> i've been searching in wiki.ubuntu.com without findind it
[19:31] <andrejz> Translations KnowledgeBase StartingTeam - Ubuntu Wiki
[19:31] <andrejz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/StartingTeam
[19:32] <gtriderxc> anyway it 'd B great if I one could install a slang dialect:)
[19:32] <GatoLoko> that's what i was looking for!, thanks andrejz
[19:32] <andrejz> there was some discussion about "pirate" language once
[19:32] <andrejz> welcome, GatoLoko
[19:33] <gtriderxc> something like ubuntu satanic edition:)
[19:33] <gtriderxc> with some special language pack:)
[19:34] <gtriderxc> but I'd have some better idea: to replace original buttons like "Shutdown" or reboot with their Linux origins
[19:35] <gtriderxc> to not forget linux commands while using X-window
[19:50] <gtriderxc> TomaszD: wiesz może z głowy gdzie jest tłumaczony Bluefish, czy mam googlować?
[19:50] <TomaszD> nie wiem
[19:50] <gtriderxc> błędy są
[19:58] <GatoLoko> i'm reading the page that andrejz said before, there is no ISO-639 code for this dialect, am I right if I think that's a problem?
[19:59] <andrejz> what kind of dialect are you planing to trasnalte ubuntu into ?
[19:59] <andrejz> in any case you can find more detailed list here  - http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/iso-639-3_20090210.tab
[20:02] <GatoLoko> I'm planing to discourage this dialect, since it's very similar to spanish, and there is no writen form, nor a regulated spoken form
[20:04] <GatoLoko> the dialect is "andaluz", spoken in the south of spain, in an area the size of portugal
[20:06] <GatoLoko> most people consider it a form of badly spoken spanish
[20:07] <GatoLoko> but there are some people with political interest in making it an independent language
[20:07] <andrejz> i think it might be possible to create a language team although non existence of regulated form might make it slightly more difficult
[20:08] <andrejz> i suggest you turn to ubuntu translations coordinators -https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-translations-coordinators
[20:08] <andrejz> who ultimately approve all new teams