[02:34] <dmcglone> Hello
[02:35] <Cheri703> yo
[02:38] <dmcglone> what ya doing
[02:38] <dmcglone> watchin movies?
[02:38] <Cheri703> watching "no ordinary family"
[02:39] <Cheri703> it's pretty good
[02:39] <dmcglone> sounds like my family
[02:39] <dmcglone> ;-)
[02:39] <dmcglone> I'm watching everybody loves raymond
[02:42] <dmcglone> I spent the last 4 days sitting around the house while the insulators insulated my house
[02:42] <Cheri703> nice
[02:42] <dmcglone> it was excruciating
[02:42] <dmcglone> boring
[02:42] <Cheri703> I knew a guy who worked for an insulation company
[02:43] <Cheri703> he was a pot smoking drunk who would drink on the job/lunch, and  would steal stuff and screw around with clients possessions
[02:44] <dmcglone> dang
[02:44] <dmcglone> the company that did my house is a huge company
[02:44] <Cheri703> yeah....I haven't seen him in years
[02:45] <dmcglone> I just can't believe it took them 4 days to do the job
[02:45] <dmcglone> but I gotta say, I can absolutely feel a difference
[02:45] <dmcglone> it was worth the bordom
[02:45] <Cheri703> very cool
[02:46] <Cheri703> this house could do with more insulation and better windows. but it's MILES ahead of the last house we lived in
[02:46] <dmcglone> My living room was always cold. Not today :-)
[02:46] <Cheri703> nice!
[02:46] <Cheri703> we have a big window in the living room, so it's chilly sometimes
[02:47] <dmcglone> the reason for the insulation was we got a new furnace back in november
[02:47] <Cheri703> ah, gotcha
[02:48] <dmcglone> the insulation was supposed to be done in Dec. but they had to reschedule
[02:48] <dmcglone> now I'm getting carpet and kissing these hardwood floors goodbye!
[02:49] <Cheri703> nice, I like having hardwood floors in this house, we only have one room of carpet, easier with dogs
[02:49] <dmcglone> I thought I would like hardwood, put this floor down last year. I was so wrong
[02:49] <Cheri703> why don't you like it?
[02:50] <dmcglone> loud, dusty, scratches easily, hard to keep shiny
[02:50] <Cheri703> I'm a fan of laminate (the good quality kind)
[02:50] <Cheri703> this house has old beat up floors anyway
[02:50] <Cheri703> and tile in a few rooms
[02:51] <dmcglone> I want nice comfy carpet
[02:51] <dmcglone> :-)
[02:52] <Cheri703> so much crap builds up in it
[02:52] <Cheri703> unless you get it cleaned OFTEN
[02:52] <dmcglone> I got some friends that are carpet layers, so far what I need is 700 bucks :-)
[02:53]  * Cheri703 recommends stanley steemer (used to work there)
[02:53] <dmcglone> I'm keeping about a 20 x 20 square of hardwood in front of the front door so shoes can be removed :-)
[02:54] <Cheri703> heh
[02:54] <Cheri703> 20' or 20"
[02:54] <Cheri703> ?
[02:54] <dmcglone> my bad
[02:54] <dmcglone> more like a 5 ft by 5 ft
[02:54] <Cheri703> gotcha
[02:55] <dmcglone> enough for a few people to wipe their feet or remove their shoes before they walk on the carpet
[02:56] <Cheri703> yeah, we got a carpeted runner for in front of our door, we have rubber mats right in front, and the carpet for shoes (from home depot), it's kind of awesome because the backing is good and we can take it into the tub and hose it out :)
[02:56] <Cheri703> it's handy
[02:57] <dmcglone> nice
[02:58] <dmcglone> after the carpet, I've got to finish the kitchen
[02:58] <dmcglone> lol
[02:58] <Cheri703> heh, yeah, my dad is working on their kitchen, has been for over a year
[02:58] <dmcglone> I kinda, well sort of, um removed some cabinets that I was gonna replace and haven't had a chance to actually replace them LOL
[02:58] <dmcglone> LOL about 3 years her now
[02:58] <dmcglone> LOL
[02:59] <dmcglone> but I had to put the project on hold, because my wife decided to quit a 16.00/hr job for a 12.00 an hour job because she thought she wanted to be a nurse ;-/
[03:01] <Cheri703> ah, gotcha
[03:01] <dmcglone> Oh the joys of marriage
[03:01] <dmcglone> lol
[03:02] <dmcglone> funny thing, she's back to the job as a bank manager but not quite the same salary and a different bank
[03:03] <dmcglone> She did work for National City, but when PNC bought them, she was afraid she was going to be let go or they were gonna cut her pay, so she left pre-maturly
[03:04] <Cheri703> gotcha
[03:04] <dmcglone> I told her she should have held out until they did something
[03:05] <dmcglone> Oh well life goes on
[03:05] <dmcglone> :-)
[03:06] <dmcglone> as for me, I'm still doing home healthcare and taking care of nutty people :-/
[03:06] <Cheri703> nice
[03:07] <dmcglone> Week after next, I'll have 3 extra clients for 2 weeks :-/
[03:08] <dmcglone> my brother is going to mexico for vacation and I'm gonna take care of his clients
[03:09] <dmcglone> but july 8th I'm taking off to Myrtle Beach Whooo hoooo
[03:09] <Cheri703> nice!
[03:09] <dmcglone> I just pray the kids to kill me in the car for the 12 hour drive
[03:10] <dmcglone> don't kill me I mean
[03:10] <dmcglone> lol
[03:10] <Cheri703> heh
[03:11] <dmcglone> I'm gonna make sure I charge their DS's and maybe buy them a game they don't have and buy a couple DVD's for them to watch on the way
[03:11] <dmcglone> and make sure they don't get them until we are on the road
[03:12] <dmcglone> that should keep them quiet for at least 6 - 8 hours
[03:12] <dmcglone> lol
[03:12] <Cheri703> heh, make sure to get a power inverter
[03:15] <dmcglone> they have a car charger for their DS's and the van has a built in DVD player
[03:16] <Unit193> Can we trade?
[03:16] <dmcglone> LOL Unit193 do you want a car payment?
[03:16] <dmcglone> lol
[03:16] <Unit193> Na, just the DVD player and maybe a DS ;)
[03:17] <Cheri703> nice
[03:17] <dmcglone> Well no use tearing up a perfectly good vehicle for a DVD player. Wal mart has them for 20 bucks
[03:17] <dmcglone> lol
[13:17] <thafreak> canthus13: ended up finding an original pogoplug (which is basically a sheevaplug) for $50 with free shipping
[13:18] <thafreak> Figured that should be good enough to satisfy my curiosity without breaking the bank
[14:54] <canthus13> thafreak: Cool. :)
[19:45] <thafreak> nice, my pogo plug should get here tuesday
[19:46] <Unit193> You're just using it as a back door into a clients house?
[19:46] <thafreak> not sure yet
[19:46] <thafreak> right now I ssh directly into a VM host...
[19:47] <thafreak> but when I need to remotely do stuff to said vmhost...then I have no other entry point
[19:47] <thafreak> I want something dependable that I can always ssh to
[19:49] <Unit193> I don't know what/how pogoplugs work, but what OS are you going to put on it? (what distro)
[19:49] <thafreak> I heard debian runs well on it
[19:50] <thafreak> if it works well, I probably will get one of the newer dreamplugs for actual use...this is to experiment with
[19:51] <Unit193> From what you were saying, they sound really cool!
[19:55] <thafreak> sound being the operative word :)
[19:55] <thafreak> I found a pogo plug for $50, which is easier to swallow than $150 for the new dream plug
[19:55] <thafreak> hopefully it's still a useful device
[19:56] <thafreak> I actually had a linksys nslu2 that I put linux on, which was my initial test of such a device...
[19:56] <Unit193> Issues with overheating?
[19:56] <thafreak> no, hopefully they have the overheating issues resolved with the new design of the dreamplug
[19:56] <Unit193> The router that we have has SSH built-in!
[19:57] <thafreak> nice
[19:58] <thafreak> the neat thing about the nslu2 was that it has usb ports (it was meant to be a nas device thingy), so I actually have linux running off a 320gb portable hard drive
[19:59] <thafreak> The original plan I had was to use this kind of stuff for remote backups...which I'm still planning on...but it's expanding into remote tech support stuff too
[20:02] <Unit193> Ohhh did you get the pink one??? ;) (I'm looking at them now)
[20:02] <thafreak> haha yes
[20:02] <thafreak> I think that was their original model
[20:02] <thafreak> so it's the cheapest
[20:30] <canthus13> What seems to be the most reliable brand of 2.5" SATA drives: Hitachi, Samsung, or WD?
[20:31]  * canthus13 is looking to upgrade his laptop's drive...
[20:31] <BiosElement> Wow
[20:31] <BiosElement> Holy crap.
[20:31] <BiosElement> ANOTHER technical discussion here.
[20:31] <BiosElement> Awesome.
[20:34] <canthus13> BiosElement: Heh. Coming from you, I'd belive that you were actually happy about that. :)
[20:35] <canthus13> Cheri703: You have any recommendation for laptop hard drive brands?
[20:35] <BiosElement> Ahaha
[20:35] <Cheri703> uhm, whatever's inexpensive?
[20:35] <canthus13> Heh.
[20:35] <canthus13> Seagate's out. they kinda suck bad.
[20:35] <Cheri703> I got a samsung from microcenter for a good price, and for $10 got a 2 year replacement thing
[20:36] <canthus13> Nice. I've had good luck with Samsung on desktops...
[20:36] <Cheri703> yeah, microcenter's thing is pretty good, full refund of purchase price if problems within 2 years...
[20:36] <Cheri703> got it for a client
[20:41] <canthus13> I'm buying off ebay.  I'm cheap like that.
[20:42] <Cheri703> that works too :)
[20:47] <Cheri703> http://consumerist.com/2011/02/hp-pretends-linux-voids-netbook-hardware-warranty.html
[20:51] <deejoe> grrr
[20:52] <deejoe> but this is why first thing I do with new Windows-running hardware I intend to run Linux on, I fire up a live CD and make a partimage restore set of the factory install.
[20:53] <canthus13> deejoe: get the smallest drive possible when you buy the laptop, install your own 500+ GB drive, don't worry about restoration. :)
[20:53] <deejoe> well, there is that, yeah
[20:53] <Cheri703> some of them might try to claim hdd replacement (case opening) as a warranty thing...
[20:54] <Cheri703> someone took their laptop in (forget where) and the people refused warranty because the screws showed signs of wear
[20:56] <Cheri703> why would someone want a 2 wheel mouse? is that better than a tilt wheel?
[20:57] <Cheri703> (I need a side scroll mouse for client)
[21:02] <canthus13> Now... I just need to find out if my lappy will handle 750GB+ drives...
[21:15] <canthus13> Cheri703: Dunno... I primarily use a trackpad and have horizontal scrolling enabled. :)
[21:16] <Cheri703> yeah, I was able to explain to client that desktop was a better choice
[21:16] <Cheri703> the guy knows NOTHING about computers
[21:17] <Cheri703> the price I gave him for just the computer, he was like, "that seems awfully cheap" I am sooooo tempted to over charge, but I won't
[21:17] <canthus13> get him a pocket calculator, tell him it's the latest in portable tech.
[21:22] <canthus13> I usually charge 100 bucks over cost for custom builds.
[21:39] <canthus13> Hmm... Samsung makes a spinpoint with 16MB cache, 7200 rpm... 80 bucks on newegg.
[22:18] <canthus13> 16MB cache, 7200 rpm or 32MB cache, 5400 rpm for a laptop drive?
[22:19] <Cheri703> no clue
[22:49] <canthus13> Went with the 5400... better battery life. :)
[22:51] <Cheri703> hmm...so I'm working on my third configuration for this client (parts of the diy combo kits keep selling out) and this one is SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than the previous few....kind of weird
[22:52] <Cheri703> oh well, will wait til monday, something else will likely sell out by then -_-
[23:28] <BiosElement> Web devs may like this: http://ontwik.com/