[00:02] <bdmurray> bryceh: should I report a bug about the compiz version tagging part of the Xorg package hook?
[00:07] <bryceh> bdmurray, yeah is it not working right?
[00:09] <bdmurray> bryceh: right its not adding the version
[00:30] <bryceh> bdmurray, I think I may have already fixed it
[00:30] <bryceh> it may have not gotten uploaded due to the alpha-2 freeze though; I'll check
[00:50] <bryceh> bdmurray, for the kernel apport hook "how often does this occur" you need a "multiple times per day" option
[02:18] <alex_mayorga> bryceh: ping
[02:20] <alex_mayorga> bug 713781
[02:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 713781 in xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[natty] Video corruption on kernel 2.6.38-1-generic and nVidia Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 230M] (rev a2) (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/713781
[02:20] <bryceh> alex_mayorga, thanks
[02:21] <alex_mayorga> bryceh: no problem, maybe I need to change the bug to include 2.6.38-2
[02:21] <alex_mayorga> I'm fetching -3 right now, any chance that would help?
[02:23] <bryceh> definitely worth trying
[02:23] <bryceh> didn't know a -3 was available already
[02:24] <bryceh> alex_mayorga, this is definitely a kernel bug, I'm only leaving it open against X because we sometimes can help in triaging the bugs down to a kernel patch to make life easier for the kernel guys ;-)
[02:25] <bryceh> alex_mayorga, since this is -nouveau, RAOF may have more clue to share than I on what may be causing this
[02:26] <alex_mayorga> RAOF: hi, mind taking a look?
[02:26]  * RAOF is currently debugging unity crap.  I'll look at it later.
[02:27] <alex_mayorga> RAOF: thanks
[02:27] <alex_mayorga> how buggy is the nvidia blob? should I try it?
[02:28] <bryceh> alex_mayorga, it doesn't work at all right now
[02:29] <alex_mayorga> I see, so I'll hang into 2.6.37 for now :) Thanks! Sorry to bother
[02:29] <alex_mayorga> guess I should go for Intel card on my next upgrade :D
[02:30] <bryceh> oh, no bother, actually I'm appreciating getting the nouveau bug reports since I really want there to be a solid fallback for when nvidia isn't available
[02:30] <bryceh> (and maybe one day enabling people to not need the proprietary driver for ordinary usage)
[02:31] <bryceh> alex_mayorga, Intel isn't necessarily perfect either...  check out http://www.bryceharrington.org/X/Reports/ubuntu-x-swat/totals-natty-workqueue.svg
[02:31] <bryceh> we're having a lot of problems with different freezes on -intel right now
[02:33] <alex_mayorga> so basically this is not the "year of linux on the desktop" either :D
[02:38] <bryceh> of course just as I was about to say -ati is more reliable my -ati desktop system spontaneously reboots
[02:39] <alex_mayorga> bryceh: :)
[02:40] <alex_mayorga> should I close the bug on the mysterious hang I had or link it to this one
[02:41] <bryceh> alex_mayorga, probably link it
[02:47] <alex_mayorga> bryceh: how? My other bugs are 696104 and 581385
[02:48]  * alex_mayorga reboots to try 2.6.38-3
[08:06] <RAOF> Amaranth: Are you still getting those intel freezes?
[15:04] <apw> bryceh, you have pushed bug #542660 upstream in the past, and we have gotten a patch from upstream suggested, but with that patch applied people are still seeing this issue
[15:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 542660 in linux (Ubuntu Natty) (and 6 other projects) "New Apple iMac (Core i5) fails to display anything (affects: 11) (dups: 1) (heat: 70)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/542660
[15:04] <apw> bryceh, i am torn between fileing a new bug upstream or continuing the old, whats the norm
[16:05] <siretart> hi.
[16:07] <siretart> I've just installed natty on one of these newly fangled i5 sandy bridge systems, and encountered a complete system freeze after xorg starts with intel drivers. vesa works fine (FSVO fine). bug #715122 looks related, but there 'only' the drm module is stuck, not the whole system
[16:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 715122 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[sandybridge] GPU lockup - *ERROR* i915_do_wait_request returns -11 (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/715122
[16:08] <siretart> if someone has some ideas what I can test further, just tell me :-)
[16:55] <apw> can someone remind me what the experimental gallium package is called
[16:59] <tjaalton> apw: libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental
[17:20] <bryceh> apw, either approach would be ok.  Given the age of that bug report it might be better to file a new one, with new logs and such, and get a fresh look.  But make sure to mention something like, "This may be related to bug #27322" or "seems similar to #27322, maybe a dupe?"
[17:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 27322 in epiphany-browser (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Epiphany shows Deer Park password save dialog (dups: 1) (heat: 4)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27322
[17:20] <apw> bryceh, yeah good plan
[18:14] <alkisg> My laptop has 2 outputs, LVDS1 (1280x800) and VGA1 (1920x1080). My gnome session automatically runs at the highest common resolution, 1024x768.
[18:14] <alkisg> If I use xrandr --addmode VGA1 1280x800, I get the desired result: both my monitors to have 1280x800.
[18:14] <alkisg> My question is, where can I declare that so it's done automatically? In xorg.conf, even if I sometimes don't have the external monitor plugged in? In some udev event?
[18:19] <cnd> bryceh, RAOF: have you seen any input related x 1.10 regressions so far?
[18:19] <cnd> the foundation of the mt work is in 1.10 (masked valuators), so it would be helpful to know if that looks solid
[18:20] <bryceh> cnd, yes 
[18:20] <cnd> bryceh, yes, there are regressions?
[18:21] <bryceh> well, regression is such a strong word ;-)
[18:21] <bryceh> but yeah spotted a few little things
[18:21] <bryceh> http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/716712
[18:21] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 716712 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) "Could not resolve keysym XF86TouchpadOn (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[18:21] <bryceh> http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/710762
[18:21] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 710762 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Middle mouse button no longer works (affects: 2) (heat: 502)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[18:22] <bryceh> cnd, haven't mentioned them to you cause I'm not 100% sure whether it's the mt stuff or just general X issues
[18:22] <cnd> yeah
[18:23] <bryceh> cnd, btw I maintain a list of all known X bugs in natty here, if you want to periodically check for regressions that you do care about - http://www.bryceharrington.org/Arsenal/Reports/ubuntu-x-swat/workqueue-natty.html
[18:23] <bryceh> half of it is gpu lockups (which technically probably belong to the kernel package actually)
[18:24] <bryceh> cnd, that first bug I bet is a client bug, but wonder if it might be related to some of your stuff.  but I didn't poke into it at all
[18:24] <cnd> bryceh, thanks, and those two bugs don't look relevant
[18:24] <cnd> which makes me happy :)
[18:26] <bryceh> well at least you're happy ;-)