[05:58] <bmg505> gmsa
[05:58] <bmg505> raid5 and double failures FTL
[05:59] <superfly> morning bmg505
[06:41] <linuxboy> bmg505: hot spare
[06:42] <linuxboy> (cause a bunch of new drives will most likely fail at teh same time, throw in a hot spare and it won't be used until needed)
[07:06] <sakhi> moonin
[07:10] <Symmetria> http://www.overclockers.com.au/image.php?pic=images/newspics/11feb11/15.jpg
[07:10] <Symmetria> !
[07:10] <Symmetria> zomg gonna become super 3r33t!
[07:11]  * Symmetria rolls his eyes
[07:12] <sakhi> eish
[07:50] <inetpro> hmm...
[10:11] <sakhi> Symmetria: all is well?
[10:14] <Symmetria> sakhi that I know of
[11:43] <kodez> afternoon all, when is the next ubuntu-za meeting?
[11:44] <kodez> also where do I get the last meeting minutes, i had forgotten the website?
[11:44] <drubin> kodez: next meeting will be some time later this month not sure exact date.
[11:45] <drubin> website it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam
[11:50] <kodez> thanks drubin, i will try to keep up with the latest developments
[12:09] <kodez> are there any ubuntu hour coming in pretoria?
[14:40] <kodez> when is ubuntu hour coming to pretoria?
[14:41] <superfly> kodez: they are announced on the mailing list
[14:41] <superfly> either that, or just do it yourself
[14:41] <superfly> don't wait for someone else
[14:42] <drubin> kodez: there was one while maiatoday was there.. but just email the list and tell people I am going to be at XX on YY date at ZZ time :)
[14:42] <tumbleweed> superfly, drubin: ubuntu-za site needs a poke, it's horribly out of date
[14:42] <tumbleweed> I think it may also be responsible for the OOMs we are seeing on soda
[14:42] <kodez> i had not participated before and had been seeing the stellenbosch guys are the ones consistant in organising it
[14:43] <superfly> a news story or two
[14:43]  * drubin can't do it today
[14:45] <superfly> tumbleweed: looks like the cron job is having issues
[14:46] <tumbleweed> superfly: yeah
[14:46] <tumbleweed> so I'm assuming it's the planet bit that's at fault
[14:48] <superfly> probably
[14:49] <tumbleweed> I can upgrade the box to squeeze which would mean we can use a package-managed drupal, but that's going to take some negotiation with frogfoot (we'll need a newer kernel for squeeze's udev)
[14:51] <superfly> it's fine, I prefer non-packaged Drupal
[14:52] <superfly> tumbleweed: I'll upgrade the modules, and perhaps Drupal itself if I have enough time, later this evening, once the munchkin is in bed
[14:53] <tumbleweed> superfly: awesome :)
[14:57] <drubin> sorry guys... 
[15:06] <kodez> drubin, do you mean we must wait for maiatoday to have another one?
[15:07] <drubin> kodez: No deffinatly don't do that, maia is it cape town
[15:07] <drubin> kodez: Just start your own one
[15:08] <kodez> drubin, what exactly is happening in ubuntu hour?
[15:31] <kodez> i'm out of here, till we meet next time
[17:27] <silent> hi everyone
[17:27] <silent> anyone can pm me
[17:30] <nlsthzn> r u a stalker?
[17:32] <cocooncrash> Maaz: dns for 59.92.251.176
[17:32] <Maaz> cocooncrash: I couldn't find the domain 176.251.92.59.in-addr.arpa.
[17:32] <drubin> silent: why would we want to ping you?
[17:33] <nlsthzn> :/ who is gives me paris, claims to be from india... am I being hacked :(
[17:34] <cocooncrash> And drubin yields the heavy hand of the law.
[17:34] <drubin> ^^ that was because this channel isn't a dating channel
[17:35] <drubin> btw that was via pm's
[17:36] <nlsthzn> boom
[17:37] <Morganvd> its not a dating channel no one told me
[17:43] <Symmetria> http://ismubarakstillpresident.com/
[17:43] <Symmetria> !
[17:44] <nlsthzn> haha
[17:44] <nlsthzn> love the pop up quassel does for web sites
[17:44] <nlsthzn> llinks
[17:48] <nlsthzn> Q&A in #ubuntu-classroom at the moment... on servers
[18:18] <superfly> nlsthzn: what do you mean, "who is gives me paris"?
[18:19] <nlsthzn> oh, our dating friend, silent, from a while ago... who-is said the IP was in France, but he/she claimed they where from india
[18:24] <Kilos> evening everybody
[18:24] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[18:24]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[18:24] <nlsthzn> Hey Mr Kilos
[18:24] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn howzit in ahab land
[18:25] <nlsthzn> all is quiet thx and there?
[18:25] <Kilos> good here as well ty
[18:28] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[18:28] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[18:28] <Maaz> You're Welcome I'm sure
[18:28] <Kilos> Maaz, whats for supper
[18:28] <Maaz> Steak , egg and chips. And a free Coke
[18:53] <superfly> nlsthzn: ah, geoip, in otherworse
[18:53] <superfly> *other words
[18:53] <nlsthzn> superfly: if you say so :p
[18:53] <superfly> nlsthzn: geoiptool.com
[18:54] <Kilos> hiya superfly just the man i need
[18:54] <Kilos> got probs with python
[18:55] <nlsthzn> superfly: hmmm, must bookmark
[18:56] <superfly> hi Kilos
[18:56] <superfly> what problems?
[18:56] <Kilos> when i try install something i get an error message
[18:57] <Kilos> or is it dpkg
[18:57] <Kilos> dpkg: error processing python-louis (--configure):
[18:57] <Kilos>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[18:57] <Kilos> No apport report written because the error message indicates its a followup error from a previous failure.
[18:57] <Kilos>                           Errors were encountered while processing:
[18:57] <Kilos>  python-support
[18:57] <Kilos>  python-louis
[18:57] <Kilos> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[18:57] <Kilos> sorry for that large post
[19:03] <superfly> Kilos: just run "sudo aptitude -f install"
[19:04] <Kilos> ty superfly 
[19:09] <Kilos> same thing superfly 
[19:09] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s20qOhXQCi
[19:10] <Kilos> is it because i completely removed midori perhaps
[19:13] <superfly> Kilos: ah, now I see what your problem is
[19:13] <superfly> what were you trying to do?
[19:13] <Kilos> i told midori full page and couldnt see anything else
[19:13] <Kilos> no panels etc
[19:14] <Kilos> so i completely removed it via synaptic
[19:14] <Kilos> thats when the error messages started
[19:56] <superfly> Kilos: it doesn't look like you did it properly
[19:57] <Kilos> ]i did everything via synaptic superfly 
[19:57] <Kilos> and install sometimes with aptitude
[19:57] <Kilos> no more foreign stuff
[19:59] <superfly> Kilos: try "sudo aptitude purge midori"
[20:01] <Kilos> nope same errors
[20:02] <Kilos> python-support and  python-louis
[20:13] <Kilos> oh superfly  i had to boot 3 or 4 times till it got to recovery mode and did that and also grub update from there as well. could that be the prob
[20:14] <Kilos> i just did aptitude install python-doc and it downloaded 5.7m
[20:14] <Kilos> but gave same error
[20:14] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s20l7kOFIL
[20:15] <Kilos> how can it download so much if system was up to date
[20:23] <Kilos> is there a key to press to get to boot into the mode where you choose recovery or another version . i just keep rebboting till it stops there on its own
[20:32] <cocooncrash> #
[20:32] <cocooncrash> Package python-support is not configured yet.
[20:32] <cocooncrash> That looks like the root error.
[20:32] <cocooncrash> Kilos: Try aptitude reinstall python-support
[20:33] <Kilos> ok
[20:34] <Kilos> nope. same error report
[20:35] <cocooncrash> Oh, also on man-db
[20:35] <cocooncrash> Something's stuffed, I'm not sure what
[20:38] <Kilos> yip. aptitude reinstall man-db gives same error
[20:38] <Kilos> how do i aptitude reinstall from scratch
[20:38] <cocooncrash> Kilos: Try dpkg-reconfigure python-support
[20:39] <cocooncrash> And dpkg-reconfigure man-db
[20:39] <Kilos> ok
[20:40] <Kilos> miles@P4:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure python-support
[20:40] <Kilos> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: python-support is broken or not fully installed
[20:41] <Kilos> miles@P4:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure man-db
[20:41] <Kilos> Updating database of manual pages ...
[20:41] <Kilos> Segmentation fault
[20:42] <cocooncrash> Hrm, okay, let's try get dpkg out the picture
[20:43] <cocooncrash> sudo /var/lib/dpkg/info/man-db.postinst
[20:43] <Kilos> ok
[20:43] <Kilos> no reports
[20:44] <cocooncrash> So it seems to be dpkg itself, not the scripts.
[20:44] <Kilos> will it give that on cli
[20:45] <Kilos> or is it inna file somewhere
[20:45] <cocooncrash> What do you mean?
[20:46] <Kilos> when i run that command will it report on termial
[20:46] <Kilos> terminal
[20:46] <Kilos> not in logs somewhere
[20:47] <cocooncrash> That last one? It should only output on the terminal.
[20:47] <cocooncrash> If you just got your prompt back then it worked.
[20:47] <Kilos> great
[20:47] <cocooncrash> I'm wondering whether there are some dpkg hooks which are breaking.
[20:48] <Kilos> is there a way to fix broken packages
[20:49] <Kilos> without knowing which one is actually broken
[20:49] <cocooncrash> I don't think it's the package which is broken
[20:49] <cocooncrash> I think dpkg itself is broken.
[20:49] <Kilos> eish
[20:51] <cocooncrash> Kilos: Try "apt-get -f install"
[20:51] <Kilos> ok
[20:52] <Kilos> same errors
[20:57] <cocooncrash> Kilos: Um, try: dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archive/man-db_*.deb
[20:58] <Kilos> ok
[20:58] <Kilos> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archive/man-db_*.deb (--install):
[20:58] <Kilos>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[20:58] <Kilos> Errors were encountered while processing:
[20:58] <Kilos>  /var/cache/apt/archive/man-db_*.deb
[20:59] <cocooncrash> Sorry, archives
[20:59] <Kilos> ah
[21:01] <Kilos> sudo: /var/cache/apt/archives/man-db_2.5.7-4_i386.deb: command not found
[21:02] <cocooncrash> sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/man-db_*.deb
[21:03] <Kilos> no error message
[21:03] <cocooncrash> Ooh
[21:03] <Kilos> will paste to bin
[21:03] <cocooncrash> That's fine, now do:
[21:03] <cocooncrash> sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/python-support_*.deb
[21:03] <Kilos> ok
[21:04] <Kilos> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python-support_*.deb (--install):
[21:04] <Kilos>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[21:04] <Kilos> Errors were encountered while processing:
[21:04] <Kilos>  /var/cache/apt/archives/python-support_*.deb
[21:04] <cocooncrash> Hrm, you don't have that deb
[21:04] <cocooncrash> aptitude download python-support; sudo dpkg -i python-support_*.deb
[21:05] <Kilos> ok
[21:05] <Kilos> Segmentation fault
[21:05] <Kilos> Errors were encountered while processing:
[21:05] <Kilos>  python-support
[21:06] <cocooncrash> Meh
[21:06] <cocooncrash> I don't know what else to suggest
[21:07] <Kilos> ok ty for the help i will do a clean install
[21:07] <Kilos> is there a way to go straight to the recovery mode
[21:08] <Kilos> at least this time it missed python-louis
[21:18] <Kilos> see you all tomorrow. sleep tight. ty for the help
[21:36] <Kilos> hey guys its fixed
[21:37] <Kilos> seeing as i was gonna do a clean install i decided to play in root
[21:37] <Kilos> sudo -i
[21:37] <Kilos> then aptitude install dpkg and man-db and python support
[21:38] <Kilos> python-support
[21:38] <Kilos> now synaptic is working as well. i so happy. 100m data saved
[21:38] <Kilos> ty
[21:39] <Kilos> sleep well. i will
[21:39] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[21:39]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[21:40] <Kilos> Maaz, move it
[21:40] <Maaz> Don't rush me Kilos . Making decent coffee is an art
[21:40] <Kilos> cheeky bot
[21:40] <cocooncrash> Kilos: Nice!
[21:41] <Kilos> that was just fluke ty for the help cocooncrash  you taught me to use sudo -i a year ago
[21:41] <cocooncrash> :-)
[21:42] <Kilos> but i normally stuff up there so i stay clear. but now i had nothing to lose and everything to gain
[21:43] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[21:44] <Kilos> Maaz, thanks man
[21:44] <Maaz> sure thing, Kilos
[21:44] <Kilos> Maaz, night
[21:44] <Maaz> kbye Kilos