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rosco_yHow can I move the shortcuts I place on my desktop into my "Desktop Folder"?00:44
rosco_y(I can't find the icon files--does anyone know where they are created when you "copy a program" from the menu to the Desktop00:45
rosco_y)?00:45
jepongrosco_y... you can set it via desktop setting00:46
jepongclick the cashew to unlock then click desktop setting00:47
jepongyou need to change your layout to folderview00:47
jepongyung your desktop folder00:47
GanzeibaHello~ D:00:47
Ganzeibamay I have some help?00:48
rosco_yjepong: Thank you!00:48
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Ganzeibaanyone...?00:49
rosco_yHi Ganzeiba00:49
GanzeibaHi rosco_y00:49
rosco_yHow are you?00:49
Ganzeibadizzy D:00:49
GanzeibaI have been trying to install Kubuntu for almost 2 hours >.>;00:50
rosco_yGanzeiba: shoot, that sounds like it could be going better....00:50
Ganzeibai hope so D:00:50
GanzeibaI was a ubuntu user, but I changed to Kubuntu 2 weeks ago at my workstation00:50
rosco_yGanzeiba: did you get it installed?00:51
Ganzeibanow that I'm trying to install it on my desktop PC, I get a black screen instead of the login screen D:00:51
rosco_yHm, that's the way I install it too.  It works for me00:51
Ganzeibanot being able to call any kind of konsole >.>;00:51
rosco_yFirst I install ubuntu, then I add the KDE Desktop using Synaptic00:51
Ganzeibaright now I'm using a Kubuntu 10.10 AMD64 Live CD00:51
rosco_yI select the "Full" option00:51
Ganzeibabut I don't have ubuntu here, I just have Kubuntu D:00:52
rosco_yGanzeiba: I'm running the 64 bit 10.10 as well, it's working fine for me00:52
GanzeibaUhmmm00:52
rosco_yin fact I think it's faster than when I run the 32 bit version on the same pc00:52
rosco_ywhich confused me a little00:52
rosco_yI think it may be because it can use the extra ram00:52
rosco_yor maybe it can multitask better, I'm not sure00:53
rosco_yalso could be a faster drive, because my 64 bit version is on a SATA drive, and my 32 bit is on an IDE00:53
rosco_yBut the bottom line is I love it00:53
rosco_yhaving a little glitch with my apache2 in my 64 bit install, and I'm not tech enough to debug it, so I might reinstall00:54
rosco_yfor now I'm using the 32 bit installation00:55
Ganzeibawell, I think it's a graphic problem, gotta try again00:55
Ganzeibabrb~00:55
rosco_yGanzeiba: do you get a login screen (when you get the black screen)?00:55
jeponghey... any idea how to configure my yahoo mail into kmail?00:57
foxjazz_anyone have experience with  a netbook x6400:58
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jepongis there a 64bit compatible netbook now?00:59
foxjazz_well maybe I shoulda installed the 32 bit version huh01:02
jepongyeah... i think dual-core and above are amd64 compatible01:03
jepongjust try 32bit on your netbook01:04
foxjazz_i have 64bit installed on here dual core 1015pem asus01:04
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moatesjoin01:27
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Techguy23I need help setting up my dell inspiron 1521 to recognize its wireless card will someone help me please?01:51
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Techguy23I have a dell inspiron 1521 with a dell 1390 wireless card that I just recently installed Kubuntu on and I started it up, looking for the wireless card. it was not detected, and i would like to know what i need to do to recognize it and get it working.01:56
Techguy23I have some linux experience01:57
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epimethhi guys... flash on chromium broke as of the last update... any ideas how to fix it?02:45
Daskreechupdate of what?02:45
epimethchromium update :-)02:50
whiloi'd like to buy a system76 machine as a new laptop (the new gazelle professional), but unfortunately i live in germany02:50
whilodo you know any comparable retail sellers for GNU/Linux (not necessarily Ubuntu, i can still install it) for Europe/Germany?02:51
macowhilo: all i can suggest is that theres a different linux-only vendor that ships worldwide but is still US-based... ZaReason02:51
maco(i have two laptops from them)02:51
epimethwhilo: you can also true asking at #kubuntu-de02:52
whilook thx02:53
whiloi have already had a look at zareason, but system76 imo looks better and has definetly more powerful in the new gazelle02:53
whilohow long is your battery live with zareason?02:54
whilo(this seems to be a problem with system76)02:54
macoon the netbook, its 5 hours with the wifi & 3g on02:54
whiloi need a dev laptop02:54
macoon the laptop they dont make anymore... i got a half hour longer than they stated02:54
whiloso core i7 sandy bridge would make sense + ssd + 4-8gb ram02:54
macoehh you dont really want to be compiling stuff on an ssd. you'll ruin it02:55
macosince like flash they have limited read/writes02:55
whiloprove? the intel ssds are thought to be very robust as i thought02:56
whiloit also speeds things up tremendously i guess02:56
macoapt-gets do seem to go much faster on my netbook than on computers with real hard drives02:58
macobut the entire reason people ask about what filesystem is best for SSDs is because they have a limited lifespan (answer:  ext4 with noatime)02:59
whiloboth ext4 and esp. btrfs have ssd options i think02:59
whilocan you point me to a reliable source, google does not give me a quick match :-/02:59
macothe thing thats good about intel is they are great for non-sequential access and mixed-read-and-write without speed problems03:00
macoim waiting for wikipedia to load03:00
maco(im practically on dial up so....this takes a while)03:00
whilook03:01
macohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive#Comparison_of_SSD_with_hard_disk_drives   the "write longevity" bit of the table03:01
macoso it seems it depends on if its a flash or DRAM based SSD03:02
macoflash ones have 4 citations on that page for their limited writes03:02
maco(which writing several hundred files repeatedly with each recompile would....ugh)03:02
macoso if you want to compile, get a DRAM-based SSD i guess03:03
whilomaco: thx03:06
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whilomaco: looks like this is fud, at least when following the links from the wiki:03:25
whilohttp://www.storagesearch.com/ssdmyths-endurance.html03:26
whilohttp://robert.penz.name/137/no-swap-partition-journaling-filesystem-on-a-ssd/03:26
whilo(both referencing the same article (the first))03:26
whilohmmm...03:29
whiloi hate issues like that, why can't the vendors just be honest and put out real test data from independant experts knowing the hardware :-p03:30
macowhilo: it makes perfect sense that a flash-based SSD (so, a gigantic flash drive) would have teh same pitfalls as any other flash drive03:30
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whilomaco: i really don't like to do amateur judgements of absolute high-tech hardware, esp. when the decision is important. it is something which really bothers me about proprietary hardware03:33
foxjaznew to ubuntu kinda. I install some sofware from the install tool How do you install a .deb file?03:33
whiloin general the information is only for consumers but not for people designing and producing technical stuff themselves03:33
whilofoxjaz: what do you want to install? (name, source)03:34
macofoxjaz: double click it03:34
foxjazi did03:34
macogdebi-kde didnt pop up?03:34
whilofoxjaz: can you give more info. because maybe you don't need the .deb file at all (it is usually better to use package management on GNU/Linux systems)03:36
whilomaco: arggh i am confused >:-(03:40
whiloi'd really love to use a ssd and in a laptop you cannot combine it (usually)03:40
whiloor i have to carry a 2.5 drive as an external storage which is *stupid*03:40
foxjazwhilo figured it out, tx03:41
whilofoxjaz: kk, welcome to kubuntu ;-)03:41
foxjazyea, it's kinda nice. I installed it on my new netbook asus03:42
foxjazI just installed a boatload of stuff. And am working on doing more.03:43
foxjazbrb03:43
whilomaco: http://blog.mpecsinc.ca/2010/05/intel-ssd-expected-lifetime-and-gross.html03:44
whilomaco: at least the drive will tell you before it fails03:45
whiloso you can replace it03:45
whilomaco: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/Intel-x25-m-SSD,2012-5.html i think i'll risk it. 20 gb a day is definetly not achieved by compiling03:48
whiloat least not for me03:48
whiloand the wear levelling should cover you up, at least with a high quality ssd for servers from intel03:57
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foxjazheh, damn thing went dark when I unplugged it04:12
foxjazheh, damn thing went dark when I unplugged it?04:13
foxjazanyone know how to get web dev apache started with ubuntu>?04:13
mauhola04:18
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expectoocuando cambio el display en ubuntu a mejores efectos04:19
expectoono cambia04:19
expectoose queda igual04:19
expectoocreo que es mi tarjeta nvidia que no tiene los ultimos drivers?04:19
expectooo que hago04:19
expectoo}oh04:20
expectoois this an english chat04:21
expectoo?04:21
DarthFrog!es | expectoo04:21
ubottuexpectoo: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.04:21
expectooenglish is o04:22
expectook04:22
expectoowhat can i do?04:22
expectoowhen i try to get higher graphic effect settings in ubuntu 10.1004:22
DarthFrogYou can ask for kubuntu support or provide kubuntu support.04:22
expectoonothing changes04:23
expectooi think i have to update my nvidia card or something04:23
expectoo.p04:23
expectooi just installed it, changed from xp04:23
malik_divulgando como driblar o mercado pago, para aqueles que usam mercado  livre :> http://retirarmercadopagoobrigatorio.blogspot.com/04:36
mauubuntu-es04:39
mau#ubuntu-es04:40
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malik_ask me if you guys have any question04:42
whiloexpectoo: what exactly do you want to do? do you use kde or gnome?04:43
mcurranDo you know how I can fix my "Error - Konqueror Connection is closed" error when trying to mount any removable devices in /media (media://)04:45
whilomcurran: what is media:// my kde4 version doesn't have a media ioslave04:47
whilo?04:47
mcurranIt's not in KDE4 I'm running KDE3.5 and no upgrading is not an option for me...04:48
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foxjazlamp was relatively painless to install04:53
malik__m04:54
mcurrananyone have any suggestions for me?05:01
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malik__\whois alvin05:05
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expectoohow do i write the number sign05:09
expectooi want to join ubuntu-es05:10
expectoocant write the number sign05:10
expectoo#ubuntu-es05:11
foxjazhow do you get to system prefs in unity?05:16
foxjazanone alie05:23
foxjazalive05:23
whilomcurran: sorry haven't used 3.5 for years05:24
whilofoxjaz: yep05:24
foxjaz3.5?05:24
jimmerhello?05:28
foxjazhi05:29
foxjazhow do you get to system prefs with ubuntu?05:30
jimmerK > System Setings05:30
foxjazyea can't find it05:30
jimmerK > Applications > Settings > System Settings?05:32
foxjazyea, not on my system05:32
jimmerAre you using ubuntu or kubuntu?05:32
foxjaznetbook version05:33
jimmermight ask in #ubuntu05:33
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chemtailI've noticed that after switching to 10.10, kwin compositing runs my GPU (NVidia GeForce g105m) at full speed (temps go way up, fan runs at max) - disabling compositing returns everything to normal.06:10
chemtailThis didn't happen before, and I've tried disabling one effect after the other, as well as tweaking the nvidia driver settings (restarting kwin after the changes), but it still remains that starting kwin compositing puts a hefty idle-load on the GPU.  Any ideas as to why?06:11
chemtailI upgraded to KDE 4.6 through the backports today, btw., but that made no difference either.06:12
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GulfstreamHow do I set the super button to load the Search and Launch page in plasma-netbook?07:01
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mausomeone write a number sign07:20
mauplz07:20
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Guest14848cant with my keyboard07:20
Gulfstream#07:20
Guest14848i need to changre room07:20
Guest14848thanks07:20
Guest14848#ubuntu-es07:20
GulfstreamHow do I set the super button to load the Search and Launch page in plasma-netbook?07:21
Taggnostrhello07:28
TaggnostrI'm trying to set a static IP but when I turn ok the pc it selects the Auto eth0 connection and that uses DHCP. I tried to create a new wired connection with a static IP but when I restart it picks up the Auto eth0 and I have to select the one I created manually. Is there a way to tell Auto eth0 to use static ip or remove it and have the other one be the default connection?07:30
Taggnostrs/ok/on/07:30
kgrollHello. Anybody in here who might be able to help me enable my wireless ethernet card in kubuntu 10.10?07:36
klobsterhello!07:37
klobsterI am looking for packages I can uninstall to get my base sytstem below 1GB.  Any advice?07:37
klobsterI have removed OO.org and CUPS (it's a netbook), but I am still at 2.5GB07:38
Taggnostrklobster, you could check if you have older kernels and remove them07:39
klobsterIt's a fresh install07:39
expectoohi07:40
expectooi need a number sign please07:40
expectoo.p07:40
expectoocan someon type one07:40
expectoocant type with my keyboard07:40
klobsterI updated all packages and removed 2.6.35.2207:40
expectoo#ubuntu-es07:41
klobster\07:41
expectoohola07:41
expectoo?07:41
* klobster slaps expectoo around a bit with a large trout07:41
klobsternothing?  I only have 5.2GB of space on my SSD and i'm hoping to get my vanilla install of kubuntu under 1 GB.  It's a CR-48, if it matters.  Any advice on what to remove?07:54
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whiloTaggnostr: try to set it the network interface up in /etc/network/interfaces08:28
ravelhey guys im having a problem with my squashfs its saying that squashfs error squashfs 3.1 isnt compatable or some thing.08:28
whiloTaggnostr: as far as i know the networkmanager will avoid interfaces configured there. if you can't figure it out on the web simply disable networkmanager if you are about to use the static ip anyway08:29
ravelbasically my live cd doesnt work because the squashfs is to old is there a way to convert it to be able to use it08:29
whiloTaggnostr: or dou you have a lan ip? then i think you should try to configure nm08:29
whiloravel: what exactly do you store in the squashfs? and where do you store it? on a partition, file?08:31
ravelokay exact errorsquashfs error major minor mismatch older squashfs 3.0 filesystems are unsupported how can i up my squashfs system08:31
Taggnostrwhilo, I'm in a lan08:32
ravelwhile its actually a remaster of my whole computer into a live cd but i screwed up and got a older remaster program so now its unreadable i believe the squashfs is at a 3.0 i need 4.008:32
whiloTaggnostr: best is to setup dhcp with fixed mac assigning imo. i have done that with dnsmasq, but it might not be worth the effort08:32
TaggnostrI guess I can set it from the router too if it's too complicated doing it from here08:32
whiloyou can then simply changes ip in a central place and even do dns08:33
whiloTaggnostr: it definetly shouldn't08:33
ravelwhile squash file systems are a compression of information basically08:33
ravellike a tar or iso08:33
whiloravel: i know, but what do you store in it?08:34
whiloit is read-only so i guess you store some installation in there, right?08:34
ravelwhilo anything i stored my whole / into it08:34
Taggnostron windows you just pick a connection and there's a checkbox with "obtain addresses automatically" and "set them manually", but on here there's no such thing08:34
whiloTaggnostr: ok, windows uses very weird terminology. apple does that better imo, but they create a very strange way to interact with hardware08:35
whilonot the point here though08:35
whiloi have a look08:35
whiloravel: what for?08:35
Taggnostrthe main problem is that from the network connections windows there's no auto ethernet, so you can't edit the default connection08:35
ravelso i can make a live cd and distribute it to my buddy08:36
Taggnostryou can create new ones, but then you can't set it them as default08:36
Taggnostror at least I didn't figure out how to do it yet08:36
ravelim so screwed right now08:37
whiloTaggnostr: we talk about the configuration which you get in system-settings or by the plasmoid, right?08:37
whiloravel: hmmm, i haven't created a livecd on my own yet, sry. but what i can recommend is simply install kubuntu on an usb stick08:38
whilothe use usb boot and grub will boot into your linux system and you have a full-featured system at hand, which you can carry around and even update08:39
ravelwhilo wont work bud still not compatible to make a cd get remastersys08:39
Taggnostrwhilo, if I click on the network icon in the tray a popup appears and there's a manage connection buttons08:39
whiloTaggnostr: yep08:39
Taggnostrwhilo, if I click on that a window appear, and in the wired tab there's nothing08:39
whiloTaggnostr: click on "manage connections"08:40
whiloravel: i have really difficulties to understand what you want to do exactly08:40
Taggnostrso I tried to add a wired connection, I set the ips and then in the popup I could see both the auto eth0 and my new connection and select the new one08:40
ravelwhilo its okay im going to un squash the filesystem then re squash it again with squashfs-tools08:41
whiloTaggnostr: ok and what happened then. have you checked "ifconfig" ?08:41
Taggnostrbut when I restart it picks the default one again, and even during the shutting down it seems to switch to auto eth0 (I had errors on another pc saying that there was a conflict of ips)08:41
whiloravel: ok08:41
whiloTaggnostr: we talk about ipv4, right?08:42
Taggnostryep08:42
whiloTaggnostr: have you checked the checkbox "automatically connect"?08:42
whiloor "connect automatically" ;-)08:42
Taggnostrnow I have selected the new connection so I'm using the correct static ip, the problem is that it will change once I reboot and that now I have the Auto eth0 connection there even if it's useless08:43
Taggnostrwhilo, yep, but I think even auto eth0 has it and it picks that first08:43
whiloTaggnostr: how can it automatically connect when you use static ips?08:44
Taggnostrbecause the auto eth0 connection (that uses dhcp) is still there and has the precedence08:45
whiloTaggnostr: so you have dhcp which gives double ips???08:46
Taggnostrno, I have two connections: auto eth0 (the one that was there already, that uses dhcp, that I can't edit and that seems to be used by default) and the one I created (with static ips, but that I have to select manually if I want to use the ips I set)08:47
TaggnostrI think I should either find a way to edit or remove the auto eth0, or a way to set the other as default08:48
whiloTaggnostr: i think you can't08:48
whiloTaggnostr: i guess that you have to configure your device in /etc/network/interfaces and then network-manager will not try to automatically dhcp i08:49
Taggnostrok08:49
Taggnostrthanks for the help, I'll see what I can do08:50
whilothe network manager is there basically to manage network switching seemlessly with default situations. static ips are usually used in manually configured setups and servers i guess08:50
whilobut don't take my word for it.08:50
whiloTaggnostr: there is also a way to set a connection as "system wide" which might do the trick in network manager as well08:50
Taggnostractually even dhcp might work now that I think about it08:51
whiloTaggnostr: :-)08:51
Taggnostrthe problem is that I want static ip for the network hd08:51
whiloTaggnostr: it usually does08:51
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Taggnostrbut if I give it an high IP there shouldn't be conflicts with the others08:51
whiloTaggnostr: do you have a hardware router or a linux box as router?08:51
Taggnostrhardware router08:51
whiloTaggnostr: ok. i have setup dnsmasq to use the macs to give defined ips to machines on the network08:52
TaggnostrI could try to set e.g. .100 for the network hd, and the dhcp will give away .2 .3 .4 for other pcs with dhcp08:52
whiloi can then even use dns in there08:52
whiloif you can define the range, sure08:52
Taggnostrthe router has an option for that, and I think I even set it, but I came back after two months and when I turned my pcs on I started getting conflicts08:53
whilothe "System connection"  checkbox is greyed out with me btw.08:53
Taggnostrsame here08:53
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whiloTaggnostr: i have already used it and it worked for wifi, but i am not sure if i have had to deal with command line08:54
whilothis is indeed not straightforward08:54
whilomaybe you could have a look at the bugtracker and report a bug if it isn't already in there?08:54
whilolaunchpad.net and bugs.kde.org are the places to go08:55
TaggnostrI guess it's easier to just set the router again or try with dhcp and static ip for the hd only08:55
whiloTaggnostr: sure it is, but the next person will have similar problems, so solving "upstream" is usually a very good idea08:56
whiloi am lazy, too, but this is how it all works08:56
Taggnostrmaybe they did it on purpose08:57
Taggnostrthey put the auto eth0 connection by default and prevented you to change and break it08:57
Taggnostrif ones needs some different setup is probably supposed to know how to configure it from elsewhere08:58
whiloTaggnostr: well network-manager has much more detailed options and at least it shouldn't force you to do sth. imo08:58
whilobut maybe you are right. i don't think it is a very intuitive solution08:59
whilohuuh ravel was from hawaii, maybe i should have helped him more and gain a nice vacation ;-)09:03
rookiehi there~09:08
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sreedasI've downloaded Kubuntu 10.10 iso file for x86 architecture. I'd be making a LiveUSB from this with persistent mode and live mode. Kubuntu 10.10 doesn't contain 4.6 and the update of 231 MB from fresh install gives a new kernel. And, adding a ppa would give me KDE 4.6. I want to know whether all this can be done using LiveUSB for LiveUSB itself in persistent mode? Kernel update most likely won't work but, will updating KDE in LiveUS09:21
rosco_yis there a way to make the desktop widgets show on all activities?09:30
kaddihi, Is there an easy way to import thunderbird accounts into kmail or would i have to set them all up manully09:38
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kaddihi, Is there an easy way to import thunderbird accounts into kmail or would i have to set them all up manaully?10:22
szikarkassi: select it the file menu the menu item of import, and look it up in the list the Thunderbird10:32
szikarsry kaddi, not kassi10:32
kaddiszikar: i did that, it imports the emails I received in TB but not the account settings10:34
niels_Is flash broken on Kubuntu? It just stopped working on my machine.10:36
trudeII!help10:47
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)10:47
Irwellhi guys... my gtk apps have stopped using the gtk+ theme and have gone all square and ugly... does anyone know how to fix it?11:07
trudellare you using qt engine?11:09
Irwelli've tried oxygen-gtk, raleigh and oxygen-gtk11:10
Irwellthats all i know11:10
Irwell*and qtcurve11:11
trudellhave you bespin or another theme installed?11:11
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Irwelli only have those three gtk+ themes installed11:12
trudelland images are ugly?11:13
Irwellit's all square and 3d like the old days11:13
trudellsquares like a chess ground?11:13
Irwellno i mean things like status bars and buttons are rectangular with a thick 3d border... i think it's the way x renders windows11:14
trudellhave you tried to chnge options in GTK styles and fonts?11:16
Irwellyes i've tried using the different themes but they all look the same11:16
trudellthe problem is only for windows?11:17
Irwellyes all qt apps, plasma desktop, etc. look perfect, it's just the content of gtk windows11:18
trudellhave you changed escreen effects options recently?11:19
Irwellnot that i can think of11:21
trudelltry to turn off screen effects11:22
trudellmaybe this help us to understand your problem11:22
Irwelli turned desktop effects off and opened firefox but it is still the same11:23
Irwellsopcast-player is the same too11:23
trudellhave you changed your video board recently?11:26
ct529hi! I would like to create a scritp for switching off all graphics and services and restarting the windows server with lxdm and lxde, for when we need max performance on the desktop11:26
Irwellnope it's an unmodified laptop11:26
ct529I normally use kde 460 for the semantic capabilities. Is that feasible?11:26
ubottuError: KDE bug 460 could not be found11:26
ucitgood morning. could some1 help me report a bug?  klicking 'report a bug' in lanchpad only kicks me back to the kubuntu wiki page i just came from -.-\11:27
trudellstrange problem irwel11:27
ct529essentially, for when we run simulations or GIS models ....11:28
trudelltry Crtl +11:28
trudellALT + F1, then CTrl + F711:28
trudelltry Crtl + ALT + F1, then CTrl + F711:29
trudellsorry11:29
trudelltry Crtl + ALT + F1, then Alt + F711:29
ct529trudell: are you talkning to me or Irwell :-D?11:29
trudellirwell11:29
Irwelli did that (had to do Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back) but it's still the same11:31
trudellnope, only ALT + F711:31
IrwellAlt+F7 did nothing11:31
trudellsorry by my mystake11:31
trudellfirst Ctrl + Alt + F1, then Alt + F7 to go back11:32
trudellnothing changed?11:32
b_gholamaliIrwell: sometimes you should use ALT+F8 or ALT+F911:33
Irwellah the alt+f7 worked this time but the gtk theme is still broken11:33
trudellwell.11:33
trudellstrange problem11:33
trudellyour video driver that you are using is the correct version to your video card?11:34
Irwellit's quite annoying because i can't use rekonq or konqueror for all my sites, firefox now looks ugly and i don't like chrome because the scroll bar irritates me11:34
Irwelltrudell: yes, it's the correct driver and kde works fine... even the kwin blur plugin works, which is a nice change!11:35
trudellwhat version of kubuntu you are using?11:36
Irwell10.1011:36
Irwellsorry 64 bit too11:37
trudellyour laptop is a sony vaio?11:41
Irwelltrudell: no, it's an hp pavilion dv611:41
trudellhave you kcm-gtk installed?11:42
Irwellnope11:43
trudellinstall it then configure gtk and save11:44
trudellto install type 'apt-get install kcm-gtk'11:44
Irwelli've installed it and changed my gtk theme but it's still the same11:45
trudellhave you tried to change gtk style to qtcurve?11:46
Irwellthat's the one i switched it to11:47
trudellstrange, very strange11:47
trudellhave you installe some program recently?11:48
Irwellthe only thing i can think of that i've installed recently was the oxygen-gtk theme11:49
trudellthen you changed the original theme to oxygen-gtk?11:50
Irwellyes i switched from raleigh to oxygen-gtk11:50
trudellhave you intalled oxygen-gtk from kubuntu repositories or from kde-look.org?11:51
Irwellfrom kde-look as i couldn't find it in the kubuntu repos11:54
trudellhmmm11:54
trudelloxygen from kde-look is for kde 4.4, are you using kde 4.5?11:55
Irwelli'm using 4.6.0 from the ppa on the kubuntu homepage11:55
trudellyeah, i think that it is the problem11:56
Irwellit's strange though because it was working fine and no packages have been updated since11:56
trudellhave you installed oxygen-gtk v 1.0.2?12:00
Irwelli'm not sure tbh12:01
trudelltry to install it http://kde.c3sl.ufpr.br/stable/oxygen-gtk/1.0.0/src/oxygen-gtk-1.0.0.tar.bz212:02
trudellsorry, try to install i http://kde.c3sl.ufpr.br/stable/oxygen-gtk/1.0.2/src/oxygen-gtk-1.0.2.tar.bz212:03
utkuHi guys, I'm on Natty's alpha 2. Desktop effects are disabled and I can't enable it, " Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options. Settings will be reverted to their previous values. Check your X configuration. You may also consider changing advanced options, especially changing the compositing type.12:04
Irwellwhy would oxygen-gtk break qtcurve and raleigh though?12:04
trudelli think that older oxygen version12:04
trudelltry to install the newer version http://kde.c3sl.ufpr.br/stable/oxygen-gtk/1.0.2/src/oxygen-gtk-1.0.2.tar.bz212:05
vanguardI manged to remove myself from the sudousers. what can I do now?12:07
trudelllol12:08
trudelldid, irwell?12:09
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trudellhave you an another profile?12:14
vanguardtrudell: nope :(12:14
vanguardtrudell: I just have another ubuntu computer and a couple live CDs12:14
trudellthis is the first time that i listen about sudo user removed12:16
vanguardI tried to add myself to the "vboxusers" group and I guess I messed up somehow12:16
trudelli have no idea to how recover it12:16
vanguardit says “xx  is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.”12:16
trudelltry to see this post http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=137391312:18
trudellmaybe helps you12:18
james147vanguard: you remove yourself from the sudo users?12:18
trudellyeah he didi12:19
vanguardjames147: I guess I did that, I do not know how I could verify that other than seeing that sudo fails12:19
james147vanguard: run "groups" see if you are in the admin group12:19
vanguard$ groups: mu vboxusers12:19
james147^^ yeah, you replaced all teh groups with vboxusers :p12:20
james147vanguard: reboot to recovery mode to get a root prompt then run "sudo usermod -a -G [list of groups you want to be in]"  make sure you add list the admin group12:21
james147(the -a will tell it to append the users rather then replace)12:21
trudellvanguard, the post helps you?12:21
vanguardjames147: okay, I'll try that. After that I will unlock the root account -.-12:21
vanguardtrudell: I will have to try, I am sitting at the machine right now12:22
james147vanguard: if you are part of the admin group then you are allowed to use sudo12:22
trudellalright12:22
vanguardhow do I get into the recovery mode? I do not have boot manager screen.12:22
trudelluse revore mode to access root12:23
vanguardrevore?12:23
james147trudell: ^^ that post is mostly right, though it better to add -a (for append) with usermod so you dont remove all the other groups :) which is probally what happened12:23
trudellprint the page to you see the ways12:23
james147trudell: ^^ also you cannot use su or sudo if you dont ahve a user in the admin group so you need to reboot to recovery mode or a live cd12:23
trudellyou can acess recovery mode in boot, if you have lilo or grub installed12:24
vanguardI am not sure, it is a single OS Kubuntu 10.10 install12:24
james147vanguard: press shift during the boot sequence12:24
vanguardjames147: thx12:24
vanguardI'll try, I should be back in five minutes or so. Thanks a lot guys12:24
trudellhave you a boot manager like grub or lilo? its standard12:24
trudellchoose boot from recovery mode rebooting, the the second option12:26
james147trudell: grub2 is the default boot manager on 10.10, and its usually safe to assume they have that if they dont know which they have :)12:26
trudellprint tutorial first, ok?12:26
trudellbye12:26
trudellalright, i hope that he can solve his problem12:27
trudellits a funny problem LOL12:28
vanguardokay, shift does not work12:28
vanguardit just shows the blue Kubuntu screen and I am at login12:28
vanguardwhere is that sudoers file?12:29
vanguardor can I reset the root password with a live cd?12:29
james147vanguard: you can, but i think you will need to chroot into the install and run the usermod commend from there12:30
james147you shouldnt need to edit the sudoers file12:30
vanguardI do have a backup of the whole sytem from a week ago, would it make sense to recover the file from there?12:30
james147vanguard: you can.... but i think it would be quicker to boot a live cd and chroot12:31
vanguardjames147: what is chroot?12:31
james147vanguard: once in the livecd you can come back here and we can guide you though it12:32
vanguardsounds like a plan :)12:32
trudelllol12:32
vanguardI'll just fire up my laptop, that way the PC is indepedent12:32
mokushanybody know something similar to thunderbird conversations for kmail?12:32
trudellis it possible that his kubuntu dont have safeboot on grub?12:34
vanguard_now it wouldn't even shut down ... I guess not being an admin is not quite a good think ...12:35
vanguard_*thing12:35
james147^^ that shouldnt make a difference for shutdown :S12:36
trudellhave you tried in boot?12:36
vanguard_trudell: you mean the recovery boot option?12:36
vanguard_trudell: or editing grub?12:36
trudellin grub have  an option to run linux in safe mod with an auto-root access12:37
trudellthen you can get root acess with a terminal12:37
vanguard_trudell: it does not show me any grub at startup, and I could not edit anything without the sudo. I am booting the live cd now12:37
trudellthen you can use that tutorial to get sudo to your account again http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=137391312:38
trudellits like simple and easier12:38
vanguard_btw: it boots with the fully blown grafical kubuntu screen from the cd, the ATI driver apparently crashed that install on harddrive12:38
trudellwhat laptop model are you using?12:39
vanguard_does anyone knows a mid range graphics card that works fine with kubuntu that I could put in my next computer?12:39
vanguard_trudell: I use an Asus Eee 1005HA, the broken sudo is on an Apple iMac12:39
* james147 has never had a problem with nvidia cards... except the modbile ones ...12:39
vanguard_the Intel in the laptop works fine, it is just slow12:40
trudellyour asus is with intel atom?12:40
vanguard_trudell: yes, and it works just fine12:40
vanguard_trudell: the iMac, which has way more power, does not support the desktop effects12:40
trudelland your operating system is developed by asus?12:40
james147vanguard_: ^^ that card isent ment for any advanced stuff :D but should run kde fine (my 1005HA at least runs kde smoothly)12:40
vanguard_james147: which card did you send?12:41
trudellyeah, its a good pc12:41
vanguard_My Asus runs KDE fine. (Atom + Intel GMA)12:41
vanguard_the iMac gets like 2 fps with KWin and Effects enabled12:41
trudellbut your OS is developed by asus?12:41
vanguard_Well, Kubuntu is not developed by Asus, or am I mistaken?12:42
james147vanguard_: yeah it isent12:42
trudellkubuntu not, but, is pre-installed in your pc?12:43
james147dont think the 1005HA came with a linux distro at all :(12:43
vanguard_There was a Asus flavored Windows 7 Starter on the disk12:43
trudellalriught12:43
vanguard_the older ones had Xandros on it. I instaled Kubuntu on it myself12:43
trudellwhy reason your distro dont have grub?12:43
james147trudell: it does, just its hidden if there are no other operating system installed by default... holding shift should force it to show the menu not sure why it isnet12:44
vanguard_james147: maybe the iMac has some trouble with the USB Keyboard, it does not even have a regular BIOS, so I think that it might goof off12:45
vanguard_the live cd is loaded, what do I do?12:45
trudelltill to recovery mode?12:45
vanguard_trudell: I pressed shift right after Apple's EFI decided to start Linux12:46
trudellyour login is vanguard?12:46
vanguard_I just entered the regular OS12:46
vanguard_my login is mu12:46
james147vanguard_: first mount the installed root disk somewhere ("sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt"  where sdXY is you partition)12:46
trudelltype 'su vanguard' then password12:47
vanguard_james147: I just selected them in dolphin :)12:47
james147vanguard_: you know where they are mounted?12:47
vanguard_I am in the live CD, not the recovery console12:47
james147vanguard_: ^^ your gona need to use a terminal for chroot12:47
vanguard_james147: the / disk is mounted in /media/disk-1 one12:48
vanguard_terminal fire up12:48
trudellalright, go to james tuto12:48
* james147 ponders on what usermod needs ...12:49
vanguard_I do chroot /media/... and then act as if I was on my machine after all?12:49
james147^^ bah, lets be safe and mount the other critical folders...12:49
james147sudo moung --bind /dev /media/disk-1/dev12:50
james147sudo mount --bind /dev /media/disk-1/dev  << even12:50
vanguard_k12:50
vanguard_james147: sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu (wtf?)12:51
james147then  "sudo mount --bind /proc /media/disk-1/proc"      and then    "sudo mount --bind /sys /media/disk-1/sys"12:51
james147hmm12:51
vanguard_james147: mount point /media.../dev/ does nost exist12:51
james147vanguard_: ^^ you made sure the path is correct?12:51
vanguard_I already did chroot, that might be it :D12:52
james147vanguard_: yeah...12:52
james147vanguard_: where did you chroot to?12:52
vanguard_to /media/disk-1/12:52
trudellhard work12:52
vanguard_now I think I am locked into there ...12:53
james147vanguard_: o well, then lets try the usermod then :)12:53
* james147 wasnt sure that those files are needed...12:53
james147vanguard_: run "sudo usermod USER -a -G admin"12:53
james147^^ actually you dont need sudo12:54
vanguard_usermod -a -G admin mu12:54
james147uea12:55
james147yea12:55
vanguard_# groups mu:12:55
vanguard_mu : mu admin vboxusers12:55
vanguard_might worked12:55
vanguard_I think I'll try to reboot now12:55
james147vanguard_: you can cat the /etc/group file to see if your suer has been added correctly12:55
vanguard_k12:55
james147or that ^^12:55
james147vanguard_: it should be safe to reboot now12:56
james147then you can add any other groups you might need12:56
vanguard_admin:x:119:mu:12:56
vanguard_sound good12:56
james147yup12:56
vanguard_and I am also in vboxusers, which was the indent of this whole mess12:57
james147that shouldnt matter, its being reemoved from admin that caused the problems :)12:57
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trudelllol12:57
james147(probally when you tried to add the vbox group)12:57
trudellgood tut to arm pcs12:58
vanguard_james147: right, that is the problem if someone who does not know exaclty what he does has the sudo rights12:58
vanguard_it works now. Thank you guys a lot!12:59
trudelli will try these options for test13:01
trudellthanks to james13:01
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trudelljames, are you here yet?13:15
trudelljames, do you know how i can get the options used by kubuntu developers to compile mplayer engine ?13:16
james147trudell: ask in #kubuntu-devel   or probally the ubuntu devel channel might be better13:18
trudellalright man, thx so much13:18
trudelljames, have anyone place to give suggests to developers?13:20
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trudellthey are muted james13:31
trudellthere are a developer page?13:31
james147trudell: no, it just seems to be quite atm13:33
james147trudell: you might want to ask on the ubuntu development channel for mplayer13:33
trudellalright13:34
trudelldo you think that they accept opnions?13:34
james147trudell: you can try ^^ but it would help if you also say your reasoning... and try not to appear rude13:38
trudellyeah13:41
trudelli and a lot of users thinks that is important a mplayer compiled with midi support13:42
trudelli compiled my own version of mplayer, but is incompatible with smplayer13:42
trudellso mplayer-plugin needs mplayer with midi support and timidity plugin to run midi files from web browser13:43
trudellbut is out in kubuntu compilation13:44
trudelldo you understood my and a lot of users problem?13:44
BluesKajHi Folks13:44
trudellhi blueskaj13:45
BluesKajhi trudell13:45
trudellhow do you do?13:45
james147Heya BluesKaj13:45
BluesKajfine , and you ?13:45
BluesKajhi james14713:46
trudellfine, thx13:46
trudellare you a kubuntu developer, blueskaj?13:46
BluesKajtrudell, no , I'm just an old guy who likes linux :)13:47
trudellme too13:47
trudelldo you think that mplayer for kubuntu needs midi support?13:47
BluesKajdunno , I play live music with our band, never had the need for midi stuff ...you can find a lot of interesting open source apps at www.hitsquad.com13:49
trudellnice page13:50
trudellbut till webphones and tablets have midi support13:51
BluesKajjames147, what hapened to the /etc/rc.d file in maverick ?13:54
* james147 thought it used /etc/init.d13:55
BluesKajhmm , my poor memory again, ok thanks james14713:56
trudellyeah, but no mplayer isnt compiled to run it, so mplayer pulgin13:59
trudellnot13:59
BluesKajperhaps you can add a midi link in ~/.mplayer14:00
trudelli will ask in #ubuntu-devel14:00
BluesKajor #mplayer14:00
qiyan#pardus-devel14:03
trudellgreat blueskaj, thx so much14:06
BluesKajtrudell, np14:08
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phoenix_firebrdflash player 10.2 crashes. help needed15:05
phoenix_firebrdi am using nvidia gforce 9400gt15:06
trudellyeah, adobe bugs15:09
trudellhere i'm till using v10.1.53.6415:09
trudellbut a new version of flashplayer 10.2 was released15:11
trudellif you need i can sent to you version 10.1 that runs correctly15:12
trudelllinux needs shockwave15:13
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, flash is a bit buggy on some setups with kde 4.6, I noticed that this morning , and it didn't happen with kde 4.5 ,15:13
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: oh15:14
phoenix_firebrdtrudell: can you send me the old version?15:14
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phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: then you mean it should work find in other distros?15:14
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BluesKajI was checking tigerdirect for ssd drives , and flash crashed but recovered quickly15:15
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: what is your gpu?15:15
BluesKajnvidia 8400gs15:15
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: good , mine too15:15
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: i will try with older kde15:16
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, don't fool around with flash too much , sometimes it's the browser and sometimes it's the site itself  ...and kde4.6 is fine otherwise15:17
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: i tried with all the browsers, i know its not kde, its with nvidia's vdpau and flash. but i am missing online videos15:18
BluesKajusing an older kde may not be the answer15:18
trudellyeah friend...15:19
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, why not post some of the urls that aren't working so we can test them too15:19
trudellcan i send archives from this irc channel?15:19
BluesKajtrudell, dcc?15:19
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: youtube.com15:20
trudelli think so. i'm noob in irc15:20
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, yes , but any particular videos?15:20
trudellblue, how i can send an archive to phoenix?15:21
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: all videos in all online video websites15:21
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, how do videos play with other codecs like avi or mkv15:21
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: do you want to know whether vdpau is working or not?15:22
trudellhow i can send archive to phoenix?15:23
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, , which nividia driver ?15:24
trudellthis is 10.1 version15:24
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: mplayer shows that vdpau is working, but i think its not. since it consumes cpu very much. latest time when it worked cpu was around 5%, but nows its around 30%15:25
trudellphoenix, accept the archive15:26
robbit10I just installed Kubuntu and KDE 4.6, but have come across a huge problem: krunner keeps segfaulting15:26
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, I repeat ,how do videos play with other codecs like avi or mkv15:26
trudellwhat, blue?15:27
trudelldcc failed15:27
phoenix_firebrdone min guys15:27
robbit10And that's quite a large problem which makes KDE 4.6 almost unusable for me, because krunner starts at every boot of KDE 4.6, and it spawns constant error dialogs that steal focus away from any applications I try to use.15:28
trudell[DCC] Solicitando de phoenix_firebrd o aceite do envio de "install_flash_player_10_linux.deb" (4,5 MB)...15:28
james147robbit10: run this: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" << that will make sure your are fully uptodate and arnt missing any packages15:29
james147robbit10: ^^ if it dosnt seem to install anything then I suggest you try a new user to see if its a config error15:30
trudelli cant understood you blueskaj15:30
robbit10james147: alright, i will be right back15:32
BluesKajtrudell, I was speaking to phoenix_firebrd ...read the lines and you'll see his nick15:33
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: the avi and mkv files that are 1080p are choppy when playing with mplayer based players, but it plays well with xbmc15:34
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, try vlc15:34
phoenix_firebrdtrudell: i couldnt get you. can you send me the .deb file to my email id or can you paste the link to the download location15:35
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: vlc is worst15:35
trudellsure, send me your e-mail by private message15:36
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, then you have either a grphics hardware or driver porblem , I asked before which nvidia driver you have?15:36
trudelli always hold older versions of flash player for security15:37
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, apt-cache policy nvidia-current15:37
trudellwell, i dont understand you blueskaj...15:38
trudellbut i run mkv and avi by exta-codecs package15:38
BluesKajtrudell, I'm not talking to you !15:38
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: propitiatory nvidia 9400gt version  260.19.0615:38
trudelli'm running with smp, mp, kaffeine by extra-codecs15:39
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: xserver 1.915:39
BluesKajyou mean xserver 1.0915:40
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: 1.9.015:40
BluesKajright sorry15:42
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: i am reinstalling chromium15:42
* BluesKaj shrugs , doubt that will make any diff unless you delete the config files too, phoenix_firebrd15:44
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: ya no use15:44
phoenix_firebrdshall i reinstall the nvidia driver ?15:45
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: i think the new driver will solve the problem15:47
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd,  yes : http://paste.ubuntu.com/566343/15:49
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: thank you for the steps, i really needed that15:50
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trudellare you sure that new driver will be resolve that problem?15:56
BluesKajtrudell, not sure but sometimes drivers don't install or upgrade properly15:57
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trudellthe problem isnt the video driver, the problem is in flashplayer plugin16:06
trudellfor linux. The newer version for ubuntu runs perfectly. Go to http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer and install for that16:07
BluesKajok trudell , if you say so :)16:08
trudelli installed now to test, and it works :-)16:08
BluesKajtrudell, the default flashplugin-installer is the best one to use16:08
trudellversion 10.2.152.27, only for linux16:09
trudellthe version 20.2.152.26 have bugs16:09
BluesKajI have the default flash and it works fine16:09
trudelldefault from repositories?16:09
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: the problem is solved16:10
trudellto me the better is from adobe.com16:10
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: i downloaded the latest nvidia driver from their website and installed .16:10
phoenix_firebrdtrudell: no16:10
trudellyes16:10
trudellhere, running perfectly16:11
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, why ?16:11
trudelli tested in you tube too16:11
phoenix_firebrdtrudell:read the release highlights in this page  http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-260.19.36-driver.html16:11
lithprHi!  I'm just getting started with Kubuntu.  I do not see a way to remove the #kubuntu channel from the default quassel irc client16:11
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: it seems that there was a bug in nvidia driver16:11
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-260.19.36-driver.html16:12
trudellis it the last version?16:12
BluesKajin your browser url , about:plugins  you should have this ,Shockwave Flash 10.2 r15216:12
phoenix_firebrdtrudell: ya16:12
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: whom are you talking to?16:13
trudelllithpr - use serve lists16:13
trudelllikes good driver16:13
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, you have the 9400 , I have the 8400 nvidia card ...different drivers16:13
trudellFixed a bug that caused pixel value 255 to be treated as transparent in color index overlays. GOOD16:14
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, both of you :)16:14
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: thank you16:15
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phoenix_firebrdtrudell: see you16:15
trudellare you going out?16:15
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phoenix_firebrdtrudell: ya16:16
trudellgood bye bro16:16
trudellcya16:16
phoenix_firebrdtrudell:bye16:16
lithprthank you!   I just changed the settings for the original server.  When i created a new one it was configurable..16:17
trudellBluesKaj, but installing from Hardware Drivers Management dont be better?16:17
trudellcuz, it recognize the video card, dont?16:18
trudellBluesKaj: where i can found a good irc for pc games in this server?16:21
trudellor another?16:21
trudell#kubuntu-offtopic16:31
lithprif the software-manangement app found in System Settings specific to kubuntu or is it part of the KDE compilation?16:34
lithpris*16:35
trudellyah16:35
james147lithpr: not sure if its part of kde yet... but it is not kubuntu spcific, you can get different backends for other distros for it16:35
NathanaelGhi all16:35
trudellyah16:35
NathanaelGis there a possibility to run flash in rekonq?16:36
james147NathanaelG: yes16:36
lithprokay, i see.  Is it considered safe to use apt-get/apt-add-repository directly from the command line with kubuntu?16:36
* james147 found that it just worked once flash was installed form the repos16:36
NathanaelGjames147: and how=? i can't bring farmerama to work in rekonq16:36
james147lithpr: yeah, its safe16:37
lithprthanks james14716:37
james147NathanaelG: farmerama?16:37
trudellwhy something in kde arent compiled in kubuntu distro?16:38
trudellbugs?16:38
james147trudell: what do you mean?16:39
trudellabout your conversation16:39
NathanaelGjames147: yeah, I know, but I do like to play that flash game from time to time... and i normally like rekonq better than firefox, usually16:39
trudell<james147> lithpr: not sure if its part of kde yet... but it is not kubuntu spcific, you can get different backends for other distros for it16:39
james147NathanaelG: ^^ do you have flash installed? and how did you install it?16:40
NathanaelGjames147: flashplayer-installer16:40
james147trudell: still dont know what you are tring to say16:40
NathanaelGnothing else works for my firefox atm16:40
james147NathanaelG: try reinstalling it then restart rekonq16:40
trudellnevermind16:40
NathanaelGjames147: i just did so16:40
trudellisnt important16:40
trudelljust curiousity16:41
james147NathanaelG: could you try a clean profile (by testing it on a new user) and see if it works with them16:41
trudelljames, your name is james or michael?16:42
NathanaelGofc james14716:42
james147trudell: both16:42
trudellmichael james or james michael?16:42
james147first16:42
trudellalright16:42
trudellnice to meet you, james16:43
trudelljames, do you know where i can find a good irc channel for PC GAMES, with trade etc.?16:44
james147trudell: you could try #games  << though i dont even know if it exists :)16:44
trudelldo exist, but empty16:45
NathanaelGbrb, eating16:45
trudellonly the op16:45
james147trudell: then i guess not ^^ google search for irc freenode game channel might tell you more16:46
Daskreechtrudell: #gametome16:46
trudellDaskreech, for general PC games?16:47
Daskreechtrudell: Heavily FLOSS but you can easily start converstations on other games16:47
trudellalright, thx dude16:48
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d3jakeCan anyone here tell me the command that will let me go into a linux install from a liveCD and act upon it as if it was the only install in existance, and install packages, etc?16:52
james147d3jake: you need to create a chroot16:53
d3jakechroot sounds familiar...16:53
james147s/create/setup/16:53
trudellchroot maybe a french dish16:54
d3jakeWhat I want to do is reinstall grub because I just wiped out a newer install of kubuntu that uses grub2, and I replaced it with an install that uses grub(1), so I can't boot...16:54
trudell:)) LOL16:54
NathanaelGjames147: it doesnt work with a new user neither16:56
trudellso grub 2 is necessary to run new ubuntu versions?16:56
klobsterhello!16:56
klobsterhello?16:56
rorkhello.16:57
rork!grub2 | d3jake16:58
ubottud3jake: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub216:58
d3jakerork: I have an older version of kubuntu that I've latched onto because it was the last one to use KDE316:58
d3jakeHence why I'm trying to get the older version of grub.16:58
klobsterI'm hoping someone can help me; I want to uninstall any unnecessary packages from my kubuntu install.  It's a base install on a CR-48.  I've deleted the old kernel and office.  Can you recomend any others?16:59
rorkd3jake: there is a guide to reinstalling grub from older live cd's here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Grub#Grub%20Legacy%20%28Ubuntu%209.04%20and%20earlier%20as%20well%20as%20upgraded%20to%209.10%2917:07
d3jakerork: Thanks!17:09
rorkyou're welcome17:10
trudell!chroot17:10
ubottuA chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot17:10
trudell!fmod17:11
trudell!fmodx17:11
trudell!fmodex17:11
trudell!mplayer17:11
ubottumplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs17:11
trudell!codecs17:11
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats17:11
lithprwhat software can i use to partition disks?17:12
lithpr(in kubuntu)17:12
BajKlithpr: in 10.10 there should be KDE Partition Manager preinstalled in systemsettings available17:12
lithpri don't see anything in System Settings17:12
BajKgo to Systemsettings -> Software and type Partition17:12
lithproic17:12
BajKthere should come "KDE Partition Manager"17:12
trudellwhy i cant use restricted formats?17:12
lithprsorry, i was looking at "hardware", it's in "system administration"17:13
lithprthank you BajK17:13
BajKlithpr: right at the bottom, one of the last entries :)17:13
BajKIs there something broken in 10.10? I dont see a policykit configuration and I cannot save the password for installing a package or something17:13
BajKit worked in 10.04 I think17:13
rork!medibuntu | trudell17:13
ubottutrudell: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org17:13
rorkYou'll find many restricted codecs there17:14
trudellBajK, are you BluesKaj?17:15
BajKnope :D17:15
BajKI have libpolkit-qt-1-1 and stuff installed, also polkit-kde-1 but I cannot save the permissions, nor is there a policy configuration in systemsettings17:15
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trudellyeah, but is an repository, dont? Have any problem if i use win codecs, for example?17:16
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rorktrudell: yes, it's a repository where you can install things like w32codecs from, I didn't have any problems after installing them, what problems are you worried about?17:17
trudellhave i illegal problems if i have installed programs from restricted repositories?17:18
Daskreechtrudell: depends on where you are. Can't answer that17:19
BajKmhkay, so this polkit editor is no longer present. wow, super, super comfort here. digging in text files -.- this rocks.17:19
trudellfor example win32codecs, is it illegal to install it?17:19
BajKtrudell: who cares..17:20
trudellLOL17:20
BajKI mean, following ms eula I am not even allowed using IE6 on my wine since I dont have a proper win install17:20
trudellwell i prefer win codecs17:20
trudelland extra-codecs17:21
Daskreechtrudell: I think it is but not in the manner that the repos do it17:21
trudellwell, but wine have own ie6, not microsoft ie617:22
trudella little confuse these discussion17:22
trudellbill gates takes linux ideas, why linux cant have windows bullshit?17:23
BajKtrudell: ?17:24
BajKI don't see any linux ideas in windows, otherwise windows would be a usable, comfortable, advanced operating system, which it isnt :)17:25
trudellwindows 7 is a copy of kde 3.517:25
trudellthe new windows security system too17:25
BajKI would say these ideas emerged separately from each other17:25
trudellwhy linux dont be permission to have standard microsoft video codecs?17:26
BajKit's funny how to see that development: Mac OS was the first consumer OS with widgets and a dashboard (maybe there were others, but.), Microsoft copied that idea with Longhorn/Vista/7 and failed miserably and KDE took this idea to the next step of a superior plasma desktop where basically everthing is a widget :)17:26
Daskreechtrudell: it's a copy of UNIX 50 year old Security system because it's worked for 50 years whereas the Microsoft system worked for 5 years17:27
DaskreechBajK: It is a comfortable opeerating system give some credit where due17:27
trudelli think not BajK, cause till windowsxp , windows dont had root for system archives17:27
Daskreechhi bluesceada17:28
Daskreechgrr17:28
Daskreechhi BluesKaj :)17:28
trudellyeah, youre right dasreech17:28
BajKI always laugh so hard at people with their Vista/7 and their UAC, which dims the whole screen and takes forever to load even on fast computers. Kde does the same - if enabled - using nice hardware acceleration :)17:28
trudellbut i prefer oracle tahn windows17:28
trudellwindows have a weak security system17:28
Daskreechtrudell: you are comparing a company to an OS? I'd love to see the chart on that17:28
trudellkde have a better visual than windows 717:29
trudelli have a legal copy of windows, but i prefer linux17:29
BajK3 original shiney bling bling XP professional CDs anyone?^^17:29
Daskreechagain a little hard to compare since new KDE comes out every 6 months with improvements every month where a new Windows comes out every 4 years with an improvement about once a year17:30
DaskreechBajK: I'll take one :)17:30
BajK:) I have no use for them anymore since all our computers are now running Kubuntu17:30
trudellyeah, me too17:31
BajKmy mom just loves it :)17:31
trudellwine rus windows apps better then windows also17:31
trudelli cant run my windows xp programs on my vista properly, so not properly vista programs on windows 717:32
BajKsometimes I ask myself why windows doesnt use all your AltGr-keys?17:32
trudellwin98 forget it, dos till dosbox cant run it on windows17:32
BajKI mean, even for proper quotation marks, you need an Alt+Ascii combination, or for copyright/trademark symbols17:32
trudellLOL17:33
BajKI always get nuts when sitting at a windows pc, trying to enter an opening quotation mark and am hittin AltGR+V and nothing happens17:33
trudellthe good kubuntu nvdrivers can run 3D games more faster than in windows version17:34
trudellLOL17:34
trudellBajK you are so funny17:34
BajKkay..17:34
trudelli have abandoned windows forever17:35
Daskreech\0/17:36
trudelli cant remember how much time i have used windows for the last time17:36
Daskreechwelcome to Linux and KDE :)17:36
trudellyeah, i have adopted kubuntu as standard, cause i love kde17:37
trudelland i love debian system17:37
BluesKajwell, altho nvidia propriatary driver 260.19.36 is recommended for my gfx card , the driver causes the cpu to run kde at 100% load ,and it won't boot properly into X , so the default nvidia-current 260.19.06 driver is the correct one for my system17:42
d3jakeI have returned! The trick with forcing grub to recreate itself worked, except when I try to boot into my older kubuntu install, the indicator bar bounces back and forth. I tried to boot in recovery mode, but it stalls after talking about using a unified CD rom driver, and says "/dev/disk/by-uuid/35570fab-2299-498b-a03f-faa0afdc5e0ff does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" What does this mean...? Can it be fixed?17:42
trudellhi blue17:42
BluesKajd3jake, it's not a trick , just update-grub , it will reconfig with latest settings17:44
trudellwhat video card ou have, blue?17:45
d3jakeBluesKaj: So, on the shell that it drops me to, type update-grub ?17:45
BluesKajsudo update-grub, d317:45
BluesKajerr d3jake17:45
d3jakeOkie, dokie, I'll go try that out.17:46
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* BluesKaj shakes his head in disbelief17:49
trudellwhy reason?17:49
trudellBjak is muted17:51
trudellI said that in a good sense, kay?17:52
trudellpeople here prefer azureus or ktorrent?17:55
trudellpeople here knows if have dc++ for linux?17:58
BluesKajktorrent , it's lighter17:58
BluesKajazureus is java I believe and it's clunky and hoggy17:59
trudellhoggy? what is it?17:59
BluesKajit's pig :)18:00
BluesKaja18:00
trudellLOL18:00
trudelllikes to be a good apearence18:00
BluesKajwith lipstick :)18:01
trudellbut apears to be a lot different from ktorrent18:01
vanguardwhere does kubuntu store my start menu favorites?18:02
trudellhi vanguard18:02
vanguardtrudell: hi :)18:02
BluesKajwell, I prefer ktorrent ..looks don't matter too much , altho I prefer it not to be too ugly18:03
BluesKajvanguard, in the kmenu18:03
trudell.kde/share/config , dont?18:03
trudellkickoffrc archive18:04
vanguardtrudell: yep, there they are. Now I can sync them around :)18:06
trudellgood luck18:07
vanguardtrudell: well, unison is working for me ever since18:07
trudellwhat is unison?18:08
vanguardit is a file syncing tool, works over SSH18:08
vanguardit detects changes on both sides and synces the files back and forth18:09
trudellaaah alright18:09
vanguardalso detects deletions and can even merge text files18:09
trudelloh nice, i need a program that do something else18:09
vanguardtrudell: what do you need?18:11
trudellin this moment i want to know if have an DC++ hub program for linux, do you know about it?18:11
BluesKajtrudell, http://opendchub.sourceforge.net/18:14
trudellGREAT BluesKaj18:16
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trudelli search in google and i cant found it18:16
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BluesKajtrudell, www.google-linux.com18:17
BluesKajerr www.googlelinux.com , I think :)18:18
BluesKajnope it's http://www.google.com/linux :)18:20
trudellLoL, so thx so much, finally i installed dchub on my linux18:20
trudellthx18:20
BluesKajtrudell, ifyou run FF , then you can add it in the searchbar , manage search engines18:21
trudellhttp://www.google.com/windows <-- NOT FOUND LOL18:22
surunverihi18:22
surunveriis there any way to decrease mouse sentivity further than what system settings allows18:22
surunveri?18:22
BluesKajhttp://www.google.com/linux18:22
trudelli'm just joking, blue18:22
trudelllinux have private search engine, windows not18:23
pr_hello guys, I would apreciate some help here. I have a netbook with 3g modem integrated. it used to work on kubuntu 10.4 now on 10.10 is not working. Does anyone knows what should i do ?18:23
BluesKajtrudell, you can use the tab bar to auto-finish nicks on irc18:23
trudellBluesKaj: LOL, good!18:24
trudellBluesKaj: Linving and Learning on Kubuntu-IRC18:25
BluesKajjust found out that html5 will work on youtube if flash doesn't18:26
vanguardstatements like this can be done with the /me command :)18:26
trudellyour netbook have ARM processor?18:26
pr_atom18:27
trudellhave idea about BluesKaj?18:28
trudellasus?18:28
pr_lg x-140  i think it is only sold in brazil and korea18:28
trudellare you brazilian or korean?18:29
pr_the wan is  rtl819118:29
pr_brazilian18:29
trudellmanero bixo18:29
trudellLOL18:29
pr_:)18:29
trudellsabia desse lançamento da lg não18:30
d3jakeThis is what I get when I tried to update-grub: http://pastebin.com/c6MkXSc3 Perhaps I missed a step?18:30
pr_roubada...não tem drivers nem para win ...pior suporte do mundo18:30
trudellBluesKaj: Do you know something about?18:31
pr_já se fala em ação coletiva no procon para conseguir os drivers originais18:31
trudellvixe, ainda bem q linux não precisa de drivers especiais18:31
BluesKajtrudell, I'm looking for info on html518:31
trudellmas deve pecar m pouco na qualidade então né?18:31
trudellvc devia ter pego um asus, tela resistiva multi-touch18:32
pr_eu to descontente...queria vende-lo, mas não posso pq as pessoas sõ querem comprar com win...18:32
pr_não consegui nem o windows original18:33
trudellmeio tablet meio desktop18:33
BluesKaj!pt18:33
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.18:33
d3jakeSomehow my German doesn't help here....18:33
BluesKaj!english18:33
ubottuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList18:33
surunveridoes anyone know of a way to decrease mouse sentivity further than what system settings allows for a logitech G1 mouse?18:34
pr_ok ! sorry!18:34
trudellpirateia, tem desblokeador de windows 7 na net, da pra vc instalar como genuíno18:34
surunveri*sensitivity18:34
surunveriit's for drawing which is hard if the sensitivity is too high18:35
trudellsorry BluesKaj18:35
d3jakeI forget who told me about "sudo update-grub", but I don't believe that it's working for me...  http://pastebin.com/c6MkXSc318:35
trudellsacou o lance, pr?18:36
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BluesKajd3jake, sudo update-grub is just that , it doesn't fix broken packages , it only updates changes in grub settings18:36
trudellwhat video card comes with this netbook?18:37
vanguardI have lampp (Apache+MySQL+X) installed for root, but I would like to sync the MySQL database files with my normal account. What can I do? Change users on lampp install?18:37
trudell<pr_> what video card comes with this netbook?18:38
pr_checking18:38
pr_intel n1018:38
surunverii've had this sensitivity problem buggin me for 6months or so already but i guess there's no soluton then18:38
pr_integrated on chipset18:38
surunveri.D18:39
trudelli think that you wont be problem if you install windows shitven18:39
trudell<pr_> http://www.ratondownload.com.br/2009/06/windows-7-ultimate-genuine-activation.html18:40
d3jakeBluesKaj: Perhaps some poking around grub's documentation will help me unravel the error I have...18:40
pr_legal18:40
BluesKajd3jake, it appears that grub did update properly tho18:41
swaircan any one tell me why this is giving error? http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Using_KXmlGuiWindow#mainwindow.h18:43
vanguardsurunveri: maybe there is a way to alter the mouse settings other than the KDE settings. I am used to more tuning myself ...18:43
trudellBluesKaj: alright18:45
d3jakeBluesKaj: It did, but when I try to boot into Linux from my HDD, it either hangs at the screen with the indicator bar going back and forth, or the recovery mode says that it can't find /dev/disk/by-uuid ...18:47
BluesKajbbl..lunch18:51
rosco_yhas anyone had a problem with the pastebin widget not working when they drop a text file on it?18:52
rosco_yI am getting a big "no smoking" type of symbol18:52
trudellBluesKaj: i'm getting out18:53
trudellcya18:54
trudellcya vanguard18:54
trudellc ya all18:54
BluesKajrosco_y, I just keep the pastebin.com blank page bookmark on my browser bookmarks toolbar19:00
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lithprhi- anyone install sun-java6-jre on kubuntu 11.04?19:50
gpc!partners19:54
ubottuCanonical's partner repositories provide packages a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" »19:54
Pici!natty19:58
ubottuNatty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011 - Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1 - Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems.19:58
lithprgpc: unfortunately, sun-java6-jre isn't in the natty partner repo, and adding the maverick repo fails as well19:59
gpclithpr: probably want to ask in #ubuntu+120:00
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lithproaky20:00
lithprgpc: ty20:00
lithpri can probably just forego java for now anyway... the only thing i use it for is box.net20:01
lithprif i have to choose between sun-java* or kde 4.6, i'll go with kde 4.6 :)20:03
* james147 notes that maverick has kde4.6 in backports20:07
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lkpi have a netbook with win 7. whats the best way to dual-boot it with kubuntu 10.04 without using wubi?20:32
ZenGuylkp if you have an extrenal drive backup your info... use the windows disk management softwate to shrink your partition then reboot then put your ubuntu usb/cd into your pc.. boot up again and install onto the remaining space you created20:33
BluesKaj!dualboot20:34
ubottuDual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot20:34
lkpk thanks guys. g2g20:35
ZenGuypeace20:35
AciDhi20:50
AciDI'm using the kde v4.6 from kubuntu's ppa. now my upper taskbar (which is set to auto hide)..won't hide anymore. It's a new behavior non seen in the previous version20:51
AciDin that taskbar there is the notification part and the windows button list for the current display20:52
soukoyequit20:52
AciDah and if I do kquitapp plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop, the toolbar stays unhidden :(20:54
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FahiMHello dear21:00
FahiMI need a help, please anyone can PM pls,21:00
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mUrshEd-kUbunTuI need help about offlince restrict files21:02
DaskreechmUrshEd-kUbunTu: Just ask your question21:06
mUrshEd-kUbunTu@Daskreech, i have ubuntu restrickt files, so i dont want to download again kubuntu restrict file. Because i am from Bangladesh and i am using Mobile broadband. Its Data usage is limit. So pleaseh elp me how to install Ubuntu offline restrict files to Kubutnu 10.10. And also i have another problem on Kubuntu, when i log out, its Hang, not working. Just turn my laptop manully :(21:09
DaskreechmUrshEd-kUbunTu: Where do you have them?21:09
mUrshEd-kUbunTuI download it from maybe ubuntugeek.com (name- Ubuntu 10.04 Offline restrict)21:10
mUrshEd-kUbunTuits a zip files21:11
DaskreechmUrshEd-kUbunTu: And you are on 10.04 ?21:12
mUrshEd-kUbunTuNo, my version is 10.1021:12
mUrshEd-kUbunTuAny suggestion, please21:14
mUrshEd-kUbunTuactually i like to watch movie and listening song..................21:15
mUrshEd-kUbunTuOK. maybe all are busy21:17
mUrshEd-kUbunTuTake care, bye21:17
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FloridaGuyany kernel newer then the 2.26.35....in backports or ppa21:26
DaskreechFloridaGuy: Yes21:36
d3jakeAssuming this is the shame channel I was in earlier today: I fixed my bootloader, I just had to grab te new UUID from /dev/disk/. Now I can get to the login screen, but when typing in the correct username and password, the login screen disappears for a few second, but then the screen goes blank, and then I'm dropped to the same login window. When I drop to the console, I can login without issues, but then I can't figure out how to get back to KDE....21:50
Simisuhello everyone, i'm currently downloading kubuntu (after failing to install ubuntu due to several different crashes...) i will be installing it on an external usb HDD with a 45gig ext4 partition and a 3gig swap partition... does this sound ok or should the partitions be using ext3 for kubuntu (or it makes no difference)21:59
illioHey there.. I'm experiencing an odd error with my Kubuntu install on a desktop. After an update (simple packages and a kernel) and a reboot, I get kdm up correctly and it recognizes the username/password combo correctly, however it doesn't log in.. it just goes to black screen for two secs and then goes back to the login screen.. Any idea what the issue is?22:02
d3jakeYou have my problem.22:04
d3jakeI'm still working on it...22:04
illiod3jake, oh .. well I sympathize then :-) .. any idea what the issue is regarding?22:05
illiod3jake, I'm thinking some X config issue during an update..22:05
d3jakeI think so, I'm looking at my /var/log/kdm.log... It seems it can't open display 022:06
d3jakeillio: I think so, I'm looking at my /var/log/kdm.log... It seems it can't open display 022:06
illiod3jake, hmm .. perhaps one could look at update logs and check exactly what was changed in X-related packages .. if we can find what was changed, we can probably find what's making it break22:07
illiod3jake, I definitely didn't have the issue before the update, so I'm quite sure that's the cause.22:07
d3jakeMy back-story isn't quite the same :).22:07
illiod3jake, and I did nothing between updating and rebooting..22:07
illiod3jake, what's your story then?22:08
d3jakeillio: I had Kubuntu 10.10 Trinity installed, but it wasn't quite my taste, so I wanted to use my old Kubuntu 8.08 install that used KDE3. So, I deleted my old install out of the partition, and then copied the old folder (from an older HDD) into my current HDD.22:09
d3jakeI had to fiddle with grub, but now I can boot, but I have the same issue you have.22:09
illiod3jake, hehe.. yeah okay.. not really the same cause I guess :-P I just coded, saw an update, updated, rebooted and was then basically fucked :-P.. Luckily I have quite a few synchronized workstations.. none of the other Kubuntu machines have failed.22:10
d3jakehehe22:10
d3jakeillio: So, similar issue, but different ways of getting there.... Any guesses as to what the issue is?22:11
Simisuhello everyone, i'm currently downloading kubuntu (after failing to install ubuntu due to several different crashes...) i will be installing it on an external usb HDD with a 45gig ext4 partition and a 3gig swap partition... does this sound ok or should the partitions be using ext3 for kubuntu (or it makes no difference)  thanks in advance22:11
illiod3jake, not at the moment no.. I'm at the office and the offending machine is at home.. I'll look into it later tonight or perhaps tomorrow.. If I find a fix I'll try to remember to say so in here..22:11
d3jakeI've found something that may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82203422:12
illiod3jake, hmm looks promising22:12
d3jakeillio: Trouble is, I can't use apt-get, as my console is apparently not smart enough to talk to the internet, nor use dpkg-reconfigure... unless I typoed something.22:13
d3jakeillio: You are in Denmark?22:13
illiod3jake, hmm that sounds odd.. anything your gui can do, you shell should be able to..22:13
illiod3jake, yep22:13
d3jakeCooL!22:13
illiod3jake, Aarhus to be specific.. you?22:13
d3jakeMinnesota, in the US22:13
d3jakeI have a friend in the northern part of Denmark.22:14
illiod3jake, hehe.. hadn't checked your ip so was expecting something like Copenhagen :-P22:14
d3jakeNaw22:14
illiod3jake, oh okay.. which part?22:14
illiod3jake, as in: which city really..?22:14
d3jakeSouth of St. Paul, the capitol city.22:15
illiod3jake, hehe I meant which city in Denmark was your friend from :-P ..22:16
d3jakeOh...22:16
d3jakeno clue22:16
d3jake>.>22:16
illiod3jake, :-) Hehe fair enough.. most of our city names are weird anyway.. Like (roughly translated): colon, beer good, penis and darkness22:17
d3jakeillio: DO you know how to initialize the network from the console?22:17
illioi.e. Tarm, Ølgod, Lem and Mørke.22:17
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illiod3jake, best option would just be to add a wire, do a ifconfig eth0 up (or whatever your device was) and do a dhclient eth0 .. would work in most setups22:18
illiod3jake, you can also do a wireless setup from the shell, but it's irritating to do imo.22:18
d3jakeillio: Okie.... I'll try that first suggestion.22:19
illiod3jake, good :-) .. I'll drink more beer and write more code now.. Have a nice day there in Minnesota :-)22:19
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d3jakeillio: Thanks!22:20
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d3jakeillio: Have fun in Dermark!22:20
illiod3jake, no problem.. and thanks to you too :-)22:20
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d3jakeillio:" I'd like to have fun in Denmark, but I woul dneed to swim there =P22:21
avihayHi, I have a broken kubuntu 10.04, and I've decided to replace it with a fresh kubuntu 10.10. I've already readyed a usb stick with the installation. I wonder if I could get some help and tips for the installation. some of the issues are: how do I get a list of manually installed packages, so that I can reinstall them, how well will my encripted privet folder fare after the installation? do I start useing grub2? I think it's best if most of my filesystem22:21
avihaywould remain EXT3, especially because of the long time it takes to process the package information.22:21
illiod3jake, haha.. there are planes going here :-P It's not like were in a remote unreachable part of the world ;-) .. So for something like $1000 you can get to Denmark and back .. easy peasy :-)22:23
d3jakeI am a poor college student :p22:23
d3jakeavihay: I can only guess, but perhaps you could look into the apt documentation to see if there is a way to get a list of installed packages.22:24
avihayI was hoping someone could tell me out the top of his head22:25
illiod3jake, hehe.. we have free university education and actually get paid to study (about the equivalent of $1000 pr. month) .. so the college students here are a bit more privileged in that regard :-)22:26
d3jakeillio: Aye. I'd love to travel outside the US. I have family from three or four generations still in Southern Germany and Austria.22:26
avihayI guess I'd start rummeging through the apt-cashe manpage22:27
avihayanyone know about the privet folder issue?22:27
illiod3jake, Save up.. it's not that hard to do.. perhaps save money by couch surfing in other countries.. it'll probably be easy to find university students giving you a free place to crash..22:28
d3jakeillio: I play the game Descent 3 online, and made a number of friends in Germany, so if I can get over there, I'll lieky have a place to stay here or there.22:28
illiod3jake, consider going to GOTOCon in Denmark perhaps.. They give free food and lodging and you get a free (normally very expensive) conference assuming you're willing to be crew.. http://gotocon.com/aarhus-2011/22:29
d3jakeillio: I'll give it a looksee.22:29
illiod3jake, okay cool. Germany is okay too.. a bit in need of more freedom, but other than that fine :-)22:29
d3jakehehe22:30
kalibHi people. Just updated my Kubuntu and now flash is not working. Tried youtbe but it says I have to update my flash plugin. On my kubuntu update I saw that flash was on the list of packages to be updated.22:30
illiod3jake, people like Martin Fowler and such attend GotoCon each year (formerly called JAOO) .. and I attend each year, along with a ton of other university B.Sc., M.Sc. and Ph.D. students .. + Google developers you can talk to and get drunk with ;-)22:31
illioLike the entire team responsible for creating V8 - the thing that makes Chrome awesome.22:31
d3jakehehe22:31
d3jakeWe shall see.22:31
illiod3jake, Crew information: http://gotocon.com/aarhus-2011/crew  :-) .. a lot of international students are also there each year.. so plenty of networking opportunities.22:32
illiod3jake, well anyway.. gotta go a bit. Good luck with your Kubuntu issue.. afk22:33
d3jakeillio: Thanks22:33
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Guest32205hi were are located bin from java runtime?22:34
kalibHi people. Just updated my Kubuntu and now flash is not working. Tried youtbe but it says I have to update my flash plugin. On my kubuntu update I saw that flash was on the list of packages to be updated.22:37
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Guest32205hi anyone uses kde 4.6?22:40
d3jake!es22:41
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.22:41
u19809hi all, I need to upgrade from karmic to lucid without a GUI (i.e. using a tty console) what is the best way to do this ?22:52
CrazySpaiGood day :D22:59
CrazySpaiSo, I just installed Kubuntu and I have no touchpad (mouse) support. Is there a seperate package I need to install?23:00
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CrazySpaiAny ideas?23:07
CrazySpaiFixed it.23:07
Simisuhello everyone, i'm currently downloading kubuntu (after failing to install ubuntu due to several different crashes...) i will be installing it on an external usb HDD with a 45gig ext4 partition and a 3gig swap partition... does this sound ok or should the partitions be using ext3 for kubuntu (or it makes no difference)  thanks in advance23:13
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et_hey guys i need some help my laptop has more then one sound driver installed how do i uninstall all the ones except for the one that works?23:32
ecinx3how do i fix the opacity? I used to have that option on the top left of the apps23:35
ecinx3also what does that little circle with that dot on the top left of an application do?23:36
ecinx3nm i fixed it, i forgot where but it said enable desktop effects.. don't know how it got shut off23:42
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