[00:44] <rosco_y> How can I move the shortcuts I place on my desktop into my "Desktop Folder"?
[00:45] <rosco_y> (I can't find the icon files--does anyone know where they are created when you "copy a program" from the menu to the Desktop
[00:45] <rosco_y> )?
[00:46] <jepong> rosco_y... you can set it via desktop setting
[00:47] <jepong> click the cashew to unlock then click desktop setting
[00:47] <jepong> you need to change your layout to folderview
[00:47] <jepong> yung your desktop folder
[00:47] <Ganzeiba> Hello~ D:
[00:48] <Ganzeiba> may I have some help?
[00:48] <rosco_y> jepong: Thank you!
[00:49] <Ganzeiba> anyone...?
[00:49] <rosco_y> Hi Ganzeiba
[00:49] <Ganzeiba> Hi rosco_y
[00:49] <rosco_y> How are you?
[00:49] <Ganzeiba> dizzy D:
[00:50] <Ganzeiba> I have been trying to install Kubuntu for almost 2 hours >.>;
[00:50] <rosco_y> Ganzeiba: shoot, that sounds like it could be going better....
[00:50] <Ganzeiba> i hope so D:
[00:50] <Ganzeiba> I was a ubuntu user, but I changed to Kubuntu 2 weeks ago at my workstation
[00:51] <rosco_y> Ganzeiba: did you get it installed?
[00:51] <Ganzeiba> now that I'm trying to install it on my desktop PC, I get a black screen instead of the login screen D:
[00:51] <rosco_y> Hm, that's the way I install it too.  It works for me
[00:51] <Ganzeiba> not being able to call any kind of konsole >.>;
[00:51] <rosco_y> First I install ubuntu, then I add the KDE Desktop using Synaptic
[00:51] <Ganzeiba> right now I'm using a Kubuntu 10.10 AMD64 Live CD
[00:51] <rosco_y> I select the "Full" option
[00:52] <Ganzeiba> but I don't have ubuntu here, I just have Kubuntu D:
[00:52] <rosco_y> Ganzeiba: I'm running the 64 bit 10.10 as well, it's working fine for me
[00:52] <Ganzeiba> Uhmmm
[00:52] <rosco_y> in fact I think it's faster than when I run the 32 bit version on the same pc
[00:52] <rosco_y> which confused me a little
[00:52] <rosco_y> I think it may be because it can use the extra ram
[00:53] <rosco_y> or maybe it can multitask better, I'm not sure
[00:53] <rosco_y> also could be a faster drive, because my 64 bit version is on a SATA drive, and my 32 bit is on an IDE
[00:53] <rosco_y> But the bottom line is I love it
[00:54] <rosco_y> having a little glitch with my apache2 in my 64 bit install, and I'm not tech enough to debug it, so I might reinstall
[00:55] <rosco_y> for now I'm using the 32 bit installation
[00:55] <Ganzeiba> well, I think it's a graphic problem, gotta try again
[00:55] <Ganzeiba> brb~
[00:55] <rosco_y> Ganzeiba: do you get a login screen (when you get the black screen)?
[00:57] <jepong> hey... any idea how to configure my yahoo mail into kmail?
[00:58] <foxjazz_> anyone have experience with  a netbook x64
[00:59] <jepong> is there a 64bit compatible netbook now?
[01:02] <foxjazz_> well maybe I shoulda installed the 32 bit version huh
[01:03] <jepong> yeah... i think dual-core and above are amd64 compatible
[01:04] <jepong> just try 32bit on your netbook
[01:04] <foxjazz_> i have 64bit installed on here dual core 1015pem asus
[01:27] <moates> join
[01:27] <moates_> a
[01:51] <Techguy23> I need help setting up my dell inspiron 1521 to recognize its wireless card will someone help me please?
[01:56] <Techguy23> I have a dell inspiron 1521 with a dell 1390 wireless card that I just recently installed Kubuntu on and I started it up, looking for the wireless card. it was not detected, and i would like to know what i need to do to recognize it and get it working.
[01:57] <Techguy23> I have some linux experience
[02:45] <epimeth> hi guys... flash on chromium broke as of the last update... any ideas how to fix it?
[02:45] <Daskreech> update of what?
[02:50] <epimeth> chromium update :-)
[02:50] <whilo> i'd like to buy a system76 machine as a new laptop (the new gazelle professional), but unfortunately i live in germany
[02:51] <whilo> do you know any comparable retail sellers for GNU/Linux (not necessarily Ubuntu, i can still install it) for Europe/Germany?
[02:51] <maco> whilo: all i can suggest is that theres a different linux-only vendor that ships worldwide but is still US-based... ZaReason
[02:51] <maco> (i have two laptops from them)
[02:52] <epimeth> whilo: you can also true asking at #kubuntu-de
[02:53] <whilo> ok thx
[02:53] <whilo> i have already had a look at zareason, but system76 imo looks better and has definetly more powerful in the new gazelle
[02:54] <whilo> how long is your battery live with zareason?
[02:54] <whilo> (this seems to be a problem with system76)
[02:54] <maco> on the netbook, its 5 hours with the wifi & 3g on
[02:54] <whilo> i need a dev laptop
[02:54] <maco> on the laptop they dont make anymore... i got a half hour longer than they stated
[02:54] <whilo> so core i7 sandy bridge would make sense + ssd + 4-8gb ram
[02:55] <maco> ehh you dont really want to be compiling stuff on an ssd. you'll ruin it
[02:55] <maco> since like flash they have limited read/writes
[02:56] <whilo> prove? the intel ssds are thought to be very robust as i thought
[02:56] <whilo> it also speeds things up tremendously i guess
[02:58] <maco> apt-gets do seem to go much faster on my netbook than on computers with real hard drives
[02:59] <maco> but the entire reason people ask about what filesystem is best for SSDs is because they have a limited lifespan (answer:  ext4 with noatime)
[02:59] <whilo> both ext4 and esp. btrfs have ssd options i think
[02:59] <whilo> can you point me to a reliable source, google does not give me a quick match :-/
[03:00] <maco> the thing thats good about intel is they are great for non-sequential access and mixed-read-and-write without speed problems
[03:00] <maco> im waiting for wikipedia to load
[03:00] <maco> (im practically on dial up so....this takes a while)
[03:01] <whilo> ok
[03:01] <maco> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive#Comparison_of_SSD_with_hard_disk_drives   the "write longevity" bit of the table
[03:02] <maco> so it seems it depends on if its a flash or DRAM based SSD
[03:02] <maco> flash ones have 4 citations on that page for their limited writes
[03:02] <maco> (which writing several hundred files repeatedly with each recompile would....ugh)
[03:03] <maco> so if you want to compile, get a DRAM-based SSD i guess
[03:06] <whilo> maco: thx
[03:25] <whilo> maco: looks like this is fud, at least when following the links from the wiki:
[03:26] <whilo> http://www.storagesearch.com/ssdmyths-endurance.html
[03:26] <whilo> http://robert.penz.name/137/no-swap-partition-journaling-filesystem-on-a-ssd/
[03:26] <whilo> (both referencing the same article (the first))
[03:29] <whilo> hmmm...
[03:30] <whilo> i hate issues like that, why can't the vendors just be honest and put out real test data from independant experts knowing the hardware :-p
[03:30] <maco> whilo: it makes perfect sense that a flash-based SSD (so, a gigantic flash drive) would have teh same pitfalls as any other flash drive
[03:33] <whilo> maco: i really don't like to do amateur judgements of absolute high-tech hardware, esp. when the decision is important. it is something which really bothers me about proprietary hardware
[03:33] <foxjaz> new to ubuntu kinda. I install some sofware from the install tool How do you install a .deb file?
[03:33] <whilo> in general the information is only for consumers but not for people designing and producing technical stuff themselves
[03:34] <whilo> foxjaz: what do you want to install? (name, source)
[03:34] <maco> foxjaz: double click it
[03:34] <foxjaz> i did
[03:34] <maco> gdebi-kde didnt pop up?
[03:36] <whilo> foxjaz: can you give more info. because maybe you don't need the .deb file at all (it is usually better to use package management on GNU/Linux systems)
[03:40] <whilo> maco: arggh i am confused >:-(
[03:40] <whilo> i'd really love to use a ssd and in a laptop you cannot combine it (usually)
[03:40] <whilo> or i have to carry a 2.5 drive as an external storage which is *stupid*
[03:41] <foxjaz> whilo figured it out, tx
[03:41] <whilo> foxjaz: kk, welcome to kubuntu ;-)
[03:42] <foxjaz> yea, it's kinda nice. I installed it on my new netbook asus
[03:43] <foxjaz> I just installed a boatload of stuff. And am working on doing more.
[03:43] <foxjaz> brb
[03:44] <whilo> maco: http://blog.mpecsinc.ca/2010/05/intel-ssd-expected-lifetime-and-gross.html
[03:45] <whilo> maco: at least the drive will tell you before it fails
[03:45] <whilo> so you can replace it
[03:48] <whilo> maco: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/Intel-x25-m-SSD,2012-5.html i think i'll risk it. 20 gb a day is definetly not achieved by compiling
[03:48] <whilo> at least not for me
[03:57] <whilo> and the wear levelling should cover you up, at least with a high quality ssd for servers from intel
[04:12] <foxjaz> heh, damn thing went dark when I unplugged it
[04:13] <foxjaz> heh, damn thing went dark when I unplugged it?
[04:13] <foxjaz> anyone know how to get web dev apache started with ubuntu>?
[04:18] <mau> hola
[04:19] <expectoo> cuando cambio el display en ubuntu a mejores efectos
[04:19] <expectoo> no cambia
[04:19] <expectoo> se queda igual
[04:19] <expectoo> creo que es mi tarjeta nvidia que no tiene los ultimos drivers?
[04:19] <expectoo> o que hago
[04:20] <expectoo> }oh
[04:21] <expectoo> is this an english chat
[04:21] <expectoo> ?
[04:21] <DarthFrog> !es | expectoo
[04:22] <expectoo> english is o
[04:22] <expectoo> k
[04:22] <expectoo> what can i do?
[04:22] <expectoo> when i try to get higher graphic effect settings in ubuntu 10.10
[04:22] <DarthFrog> You can ask for kubuntu support or provide kubuntu support.
[04:23] <expectoo> nothing changes
[04:23] <expectoo> i think i have to update my nvidia card or something
[04:23] <expectoo> .p
[04:23] <expectoo> i just installed it, changed from xp
[04:36] <malik_> divulgando como driblar o mercado pago, para aqueles que usam mercado  livre :> http://retirarmercadopagoobrigatorio.blogspot.com/
[04:39] <mau> ubuntu-es
[04:40] <mau> #ubuntu-es
[04:42] <malik_> ask me if you guys have any question
[04:43] <whilo> expectoo: what exactly do you want to do? do you use kde or gnome?
[04:45] <mcurran> Do you know how I can fix my "Error - Konqueror Connection is closed" error when trying to mount any removable devices in /media (media://)
[04:47] <whilo> mcurran: what is media:// my kde4 version doesn't have a media ioslave
[04:47] <whilo> ?
[04:48] <mcurran> It's not in KDE4 I'm running KDE3.5 and no upgrading is not an option for me...
[04:53] <foxjaz> lamp was relatively painless to install
[04:54] <malik__> m
[05:01] <mcurran> anyone have any suggestions for me?
[05:05] <malik__> \whois alvin
[05:09] <expectoo> how do i write the number sign
[05:10] <expectoo> i want to join ubuntu-es
[05:10] <expectoo> cant write the number sign
[05:11] <expectoo> #ubuntu-es
[05:16] <foxjaz> how do you get to system prefs in unity?
[05:23] <foxjaz> anone alie
[05:23] <foxjaz> alive
[05:24] <whilo> mcurran: sorry haven't used 3.5 for years
[05:24] <whilo> foxjaz: yep
[05:24] <foxjaz> 3.5?
[05:28] <jimmer> hello?
[05:29] <foxjaz> hi
[05:30] <foxjaz> how do you get to system prefs with ubuntu?
[05:30] <jimmer> K > System Setings
[05:30] <foxjaz> yea can't find it
[05:32] <jimmer> K > Applications > Settings > System Settings?
[05:32] <foxjaz> yea, not on my system
[05:32] <jimmer> Are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[05:33] <foxjaz> netbook version
[05:33] <jimmer> might ask in #ubuntu
[06:10] <chemtail> I've noticed that after switching to 10.10, kwin compositing runs my GPU (NVidia GeForce g105m) at full speed (temps go way up, fan runs at max) - disabling compositing returns everything to normal.
[06:11] <chemtail> This didn't happen before, and I've tried disabling one effect after the other, as well as tweaking the nvidia driver settings (restarting kwin after the changes), but it still remains that starting kwin compositing puts a hefty idle-load on the GPU.  Any ideas as to why?
[06:12] <chemtail> I upgraded to KDE 4.6 through the backports today, btw., but that made no difference either.
[07:01] <Gulfstream> How do I set the super button to load the Search and Launch page in plasma-netbook?
[07:20] <mau> someone write a number sign
[07:20] <mau> plz
[07:20] <Guest14848> cant with my keyboard
[07:20] <Gulfstream> #
[07:20] <Guest14848> i need to changre room
[07:20] <Guest14848> thanks
[07:20] <Guest14848> #ubuntu-es
[07:21] <Gulfstream> How do I set the super button to load the Search and Launch page in plasma-netbook?
[07:28] <Taggnostr> hello
[07:30] <Taggnostr> I'm trying to set a static IP but when I turn ok the pc it selects the Auto eth0 connection and that uses DHCP. I tried to create a new wired connection with a static IP but when I restart it picks up the Auto eth0 and I have to select the one I created manually. Is there a way to tell Auto eth0 to use static ip or remove it and have the other one be the default connection?
[07:30] <Taggnostr> s/ok/on/
[07:36] <kgroll> Hello. Anybody in here who might be able to help me enable my wireless ethernet card in kubuntu 10.10?
[07:37] <klobster> hello!
[07:37] <klobster> I am looking for packages I can uninstall to get my base sytstem below 1GB.  Any advice?
[07:38] <klobster> I have removed OO.org and CUPS (it's a netbook), but I am still at 2.5GB
[07:39] <Taggnostr> klobster, you could check if you have older kernels and remove them
[07:39] <klobster> It's a fresh install
[07:40] <expectoo> hi
[07:40] <expectoo> i need a number sign please
[07:40] <expectoo> .p
[07:40] <expectoo> can someon type one
[07:40] <expectoo> cant type with my keyboard
[07:40] <klobster> I updated all packages and removed 2.6.35.22
[07:41] <expectoo> #ubuntu-es
[07:41] <klobster> \
[07:41] <expectoo> hola
[07:41] <expectoo> ?
[07:41]  * klobster slaps expectoo around a bit with a large trout
[07:54] <klobster> nothing?  I only have 5.2GB of space on my SSD and i'm hoping to get my vanilla install of kubuntu under 1 GB.  It's a CR-48, if it matters.  Any advice on what to remove?
[08:28] <whilo> Taggnostr: try to set it the network interface up in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:28] <ravel> hey guys im having a problem with my squashfs its saying that squashfs error squashfs 3.1 isnt compatable or some thing.
[08:29] <whilo> Taggnostr: as far as i know the networkmanager will avoid interfaces configured there. if you can't figure it out on the web simply disable networkmanager if you are about to use the static ip anyway
[08:29] <ravel> basically my live cd doesnt work because the squashfs is to old is there a way to convert it to be able to use it
[08:29] <whilo> Taggnostr: or dou you have a lan ip? then i think you should try to configure nm
[08:31] <whilo> ravel: what exactly do you store in the squashfs? and where do you store it? on a partition, file?
[08:31] <ravel> okay exact errorsquashfs error major minor mismatch older squashfs 3.0 filesystems are unsupported how can i up my squashfs system
[08:32] <Taggnostr> whilo, I'm in a lan
[08:32] <ravel> while its actually a remaster of my whole computer into a live cd but i screwed up and got a older remaster program so now its unreadable i believe the squashfs is at a 3.0 i need 4.0
[08:32] <whilo> Taggnostr: best is to setup dhcp with fixed mac assigning imo. i have done that with dnsmasq, but it might not be worth the effort
[08:32] <Taggnostr> I guess I can set it from the router too if it's too complicated doing it from here
[08:33] <whilo> you can then simply changes ip in a central place and even do dns
[08:33] <whilo> Taggnostr: it definetly shouldn't
[08:33] <ravel> while squash file systems are a compression of information basically
[08:33] <ravel> like a tar or iso
[08:34] <whilo> ravel: i know, but what do you store in it?
[08:34] <whilo> it is read-only so i guess you store some installation in there, right?
[08:34] <ravel> whilo anything i stored my whole / into it
[08:34] <Taggnostr> on windows you just pick a connection and there's a checkbox with "obtain addresses automatically" and "set them manually", but on here there's no such thing
[08:35] <whilo> Taggnostr: ok, windows uses very weird terminology. apple does that better imo, but they create a very strange way to interact with hardware
[08:35] <whilo> not the point here though
[08:35] <whilo> i have a look
[08:35] <whilo> ravel: what for?
[08:35] <Taggnostr> the main problem is that from the network connections windows there's no auto ethernet, so you can't edit the default connection
[08:36] <ravel> so i can make a live cd and distribute it to my buddy
[08:36] <Taggnostr> you can create new ones, but then you can't set it them as default
[08:36] <Taggnostr> or at least I didn't figure out how to do it yet
[08:37] <ravel> im so screwed right now
[08:37] <whilo> Taggnostr: we talk about the configuration which you get in system-settings or by the plasmoid, right?
[08:38] <whilo> ravel: hmmm, i haven't created a livecd on my own yet, sry. but what i can recommend is simply install kubuntu on an usb stick
[08:39] <whilo> the use usb boot and grub will boot into your linux system and you have a full-featured system at hand, which you can carry around and even update
[08:39] <ravel> whilo wont work bud still not compatible to make a cd get remastersys
[08:39] <Taggnostr> whilo, if I click on the network icon in the tray a popup appears and there's a manage connection buttons
[08:39] <whilo> Taggnostr: yep
[08:39] <Taggnostr> whilo, if I click on that a window appear, and in the wired tab there's nothing
[08:40] <whilo> Taggnostr: click on "manage connections"
[08:40] <whilo> ravel: i have really difficulties to understand what you want to do exactly
[08:40] <Taggnostr> so I tried to add a wired connection, I set the ips and then in the popup I could see both the auto eth0 and my new connection and select the new one
[08:41] <ravel> whilo its okay im going to un squash the filesystem then re squash it again with squashfs-tools
[08:41] <whilo> Taggnostr: ok and what happened then. have you checked "ifconfig" ?
[08:41] <Taggnostr> but when I restart it picks the default one again, and even during the shutting down it seems to switch to auto eth0 (I had errors on another pc saying that there was a conflict of ips)
[08:41] <whilo> ravel: ok
[08:42] <whilo> Taggnostr: we talk about ipv4, right?
[08:42] <Taggnostr> yep
[08:42] <whilo> Taggnostr: have you checked the checkbox "automatically connect"?
[08:42] <whilo> or "connect automatically" ;-)
[08:43] <Taggnostr> now I have selected the new connection so I'm using the correct static ip, the problem is that it will change once I reboot and that now I have the Auto eth0 connection there even if it's useless
[08:43] <Taggnostr> whilo, yep, but I think even auto eth0 has it and it picks that first
[08:44] <whilo> Taggnostr: how can it automatically connect when you use static ips?
[08:45] <Taggnostr> because the auto eth0 connection (that uses dhcp) is still there and has the precedence
[08:46] <whilo> Taggnostr: so you have dhcp which gives double ips???
[08:47] <Taggnostr> no, I have two connections: auto eth0 (the one that was there already, that uses dhcp, that I can't edit and that seems to be used by default) and the one I created (with static ips, but that I have to select manually if I want to use the ips I set)
[08:48] <Taggnostr> I think I should either find a way to edit or remove the auto eth0, or a way to set the other as default
[08:48] <whilo> Taggnostr: i think you can't
[08:49] <whilo> Taggnostr: i guess that you have to configure your device in /etc/network/interfaces and then network-manager will not try to automatically dhcp i
[08:49] <Taggnostr> ok
[08:50] <Taggnostr> thanks for the help, I'll see what I can do
[08:50] <whilo> the network manager is there basically to manage network switching seemlessly with default situations. static ips are usually used in manually configured setups and servers i guess
[08:50] <whilo> but don't take my word for it.
[08:50] <whilo> Taggnostr: there is also a way to set a connection as "system wide" which might do the trick in network manager as well
[08:51] <Taggnostr> actually even dhcp might work now that I think about it
[08:51] <whilo> Taggnostr: :-)
[08:51] <Taggnostr> the problem is that I want static ip for the network hd
[08:51] <whilo> Taggnostr: it usually does
[08:51] <Taggnostr> but if I give it an high IP there shouldn't be conflicts with the others
[08:51] <whilo> Taggnostr: do you have a hardware router or a linux box as router?
[08:51] <Taggnostr> hardware router
[08:52] <whilo> Taggnostr: ok. i have setup dnsmasq to use the macs to give defined ips to machines on the network
[08:52] <Taggnostr> I could try to set e.g. .100 for the network hd, and the dhcp will give away .2 .3 .4 for other pcs with dhcp
[08:52] <whilo> i can then even use dns in there
[08:52] <whilo> if you can define the range, sure
[08:53] <Taggnostr> the router has an option for that, and I think I even set it, but I came back after two months and when I turned my pcs on I started getting conflicts
[08:53] <whilo> the "System connection"  checkbox is greyed out with me btw.
[08:53] <Taggnostr> same here
[08:54] <whilo> Taggnostr: i have already used it and it worked for wifi, but i am not sure if i have had to deal with command line
[08:54] <whilo> this is indeed not straightforward
[08:54] <whilo> maybe you could have a look at the bugtracker and report a bug if it isn't already in there?
[08:55] <whilo> launchpad.net and bugs.kde.org are the places to go
[08:55] <Taggnostr> I guess it's easier to just set the router again or try with dhcp and static ip for the hd only
[08:56] <whilo> Taggnostr: sure it is, but the next person will have similar problems, so solving "upstream" is usually a very good idea
[08:56] <whilo> i am lazy, too, but this is how it all works
[08:57] <Taggnostr> maybe they did it on purpose
[08:57] <Taggnostr> they put the auto eth0 connection by default and prevented you to change and break it
[08:58] <Taggnostr> if ones needs some different setup is probably supposed to know how to configure it from elsewhere
[08:58] <whilo> Taggnostr: well network-manager has much more detailed options and at least it shouldn't force you to do sth. imo
[08:59] <whilo> but maybe you are right. i don't think it is a very intuitive solution
[09:03] <whilo> huuh ravel was from hawaii, maybe i should have helped him more and gain a nice vacation ;-)
[09:08] <rookie> hi there~
[09:21] <sreedas> I've downloaded Kubuntu 10.10 iso file for x86 architecture. I'd be making a LiveUSB from this with persistent mode and live mode. Kubuntu 10.10 doesn't contain 4.6 and the update of 231 MB from fresh install gives a new kernel. And, adding a ppa would give me KDE 4.6. I want to know whether all this can be done using LiveUSB for LiveUSB itself in persistent mode? Kernel update most likely won't work but, will updating KDE in LiveUS
[09:30] <rosco_y> is there a way to make the desktop widgets show on all activities?
[09:38] <kaddi> hi, Is there an easy way to import thunderbird accounts into kmail or would i have to set them all up manully
[10:22] <kaddi> hi, Is there an easy way to import thunderbird accounts into kmail or would i have to set them all up manaully?
[10:32] <szikar> kassi: select it the file menu the menu item of import, and look it up in the list the Thunderbird
[10:32] <szikar> sry kaddi, not kassi
[10:34] <kaddi> szikar: i did that, it imports the emails I received in TB but not the account settings
[10:36] <niels_> Is flash broken on Kubuntu? It just stopped working on my machine.
[10:47] <trudeII> !help
[11:07] <Irwell> hi guys... my gtk apps have stopped using the gtk+ theme and have gone all square and ugly... does anyone know how to fix it?
[11:09] <trudell> are you using qt engine?
[11:10] <Irwell> i've tried oxygen-gtk, raleigh and oxygen-gtk
[11:10] <Irwell> thats all i know
[11:11] <Irwell> *and qtcurve
[11:11] <trudell> have you bespin or another theme installed?
[11:12] <Irwell> i only have those three gtk+ themes installed
[11:13] <trudell> and images are ugly?
[11:13] <Irwell> it's all square and 3d like the old days
[11:13] <trudell> squares like a chess ground?
[11:14] <Irwell> no i mean things like status bars and buttons are rectangular with a thick 3d border... i think it's the way x renders windows
[11:16] <trudell> have you tried to chnge options in GTK styles and fonts?
[11:16] <Irwell> yes i've tried using the different themes but they all look the same
[11:17] <trudell> the problem is only for windows?
[11:18] <Irwell> yes all qt apps, plasma desktop, etc. look perfect, it's just the content of gtk windows
[11:19] <trudell> have you changed escreen effects options recently?
[11:21] <Irwell> not that i can think of
[11:22] <trudell> try to turn off screen effects
[11:22] <trudell> maybe this help us to understand your problem
[11:23] <Irwell> i turned desktop effects off and opened firefox but it is still the same
[11:23] <Irwell> sopcast-player is the same too
[11:26] <trudell> have you changed your video board recently?
[11:26] <ct529> hi! I would like to create a scritp for switching off all graphics and services and restarting the windows server with lxdm and lxde, for when we need max performance on the desktop
[11:26] <Irwell> nope it's an unmodified laptop
[11:26] <ct529> I normally use kde 460 for the semantic capabilities. Is that feasible?
[11:27] <ucit> good morning. could some1 help me report a bug?  klicking 'report a bug' in lanchpad only kicks me back to the kubuntu wiki page i just came from -.-\
[11:27] <trudell> strange problem irwel
[11:28] <ct529> essentially, for when we run simulations or GIS models ....
[11:28] <trudell> try Crtl +
[11:28] <trudell> ALT + F1, then CTrl + F7
[11:29] <trudell> try Crtl + ALT + F1, then CTrl + F7
[11:29] <trudell> sorry
[11:29] <trudell> try Crtl + ALT + F1, then Alt + F7
[11:29] <ct529> trudell: are you talkning to me or Irwell :-D?
[11:29] <trudell> irwell
[11:31] <Irwell> i did that (had to do Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back) but it's still the same
[11:31] <trudell> nope, only ALT + F7
[11:31] <Irwell> Alt+F7 did nothing
[11:31] <trudell> sorry by my mystake
[11:32] <trudell> first Ctrl + Alt + F1, then Alt + F7 to go back
[11:32] <trudell> nothing changed?
[11:33] <b_gholamali> Irwell: sometimes you should use ALT+F8 or ALT+F9
[11:33] <Irwell> ah the alt+f7 worked this time but the gtk theme is still broken
[11:33] <trudell> well.
[11:33] <trudell> strange problem
[11:34] <trudell> your video driver that you are using is the correct version to your video card?
[11:34] <Irwell> it's quite annoying because i can't use rekonq or konqueror for all my sites, firefox now looks ugly and i don't like chrome because the scroll bar irritates me
[11:35] <Irwell> trudell: yes, it's the correct driver and kde works fine... even the kwin blur plugin works, which is a nice change!
[11:36] <trudell> what version of kubuntu you are using?
[11:36] <Irwell> 10.10
[11:37] <Irwell> sorry 64 bit too
[11:41] <trudell> your laptop is a sony vaio?
[11:41] <Irwell> trudell: no, it's an hp pavilion dv6
[11:42] <trudell> have you kcm-gtk installed?
[11:43] <Irwell> nope
[11:44] <trudell> install it then configure gtk and save
[11:44] <trudell> to install type 'apt-get install kcm-gtk'
[11:45] <Irwell> i've installed it and changed my gtk theme but it's still the same
[11:46] <trudell> have you tried to change gtk style to qtcurve?
[11:47] <Irwell> that's the one i switched it to
[11:47] <trudell> strange, very strange
[11:48] <trudell> have you installe some program recently?
[11:49] <Irwell> the only thing i can think of that i've installed recently was the oxygen-gtk theme
[11:50] <trudell> then you changed the original theme to oxygen-gtk?
[11:50] <Irwell> yes i switched from raleigh to oxygen-gtk
[11:51] <trudell> have you intalled oxygen-gtk from kubuntu repositories or from kde-look.org?
[11:54] <Irwell> from kde-look as i couldn't find it in the kubuntu repos
[11:54] <trudell> hmmm
[11:55] <trudell> oxygen from kde-look is for kde 4.4, are you using kde 4.5?
[11:55] <Irwell> i'm using 4.6.0 from the ppa on the kubuntu homepage
[11:56] <trudell> yeah, i think that it is the problem
[11:56] <Irwell> it's strange though because it was working fine and no packages have been updated since
[12:00] <trudell> have you installed oxygen-gtk v 1.0.2?
[12:01] <Irwell> i'm not sure tbh
[12:02] <trudell> try to install it http://kde.c3sl.ufpr.br/stable/oxygen-gtk/1.0.0/src/oxygen-gtk-1.0.0.tar.bz2
[12:03] <trudell> sorry, try to install i http://kde.c3sl.ufpr.br/stable/oxygen-gtk/1.0.2/src/oxygen-gtk-1.0.2.tar.bz2
[12:04] <utku> Hi guys, I'm on Natty's alpha 2. Desktop effects are disabled and I can't enable it, " Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options. Settings will be reverted to their previous values. Check your X configuration. You may also consider changing advanced options, especially changing the compositing type.
[12:04] <Irwell> why would oxygen-gtk break qtcurve and raleigh though?
[12:04] <trudell> i think that older oxygen version
[12:05] <trudell> try to install the newer version http://kde.c3sl.ufpr.br/stable/oxygen-gtk/1.0.2/src/oxygen-gtk-1.0.2.tar.bz2
[12:07] <vanguard> I manged to remove myself from the sudousers. what can I do now?
[12:08] <trudell> lol
[12:09] <trudell> did, irwell?
[12:14] <trudell> have you an another profile?
[12:14] <vanguard> trudell: nope :(
[12:14] <vanguard> trudell: I just have another ubuntu computer and a couple live CDs
[12:16] <trudell> this is the first time that i listen about sudo user removed
[12:16] <vanguard> I tried to add myself to the "vboxusers" group and I guess I messed up somehow
[12:16] <trudell> i have no idea to how recover it
[12:16] <vanguard> it says “xx  is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.”
[12:18] <trudell> try to see this post http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1373913
[12:18] <trudell> maybe helps you
[12:18] <james147> vanguard: you remove yourself from the sudo users?
[12:19] <trudell> yeah he didi
[12:19] <vanguard> james147: I guess I did that, I do not know how I could verify that other than seeing that sudo fails
[12:19] <james147> vanguard: run "groups" see if you are in the admin group
[12:19] <vanguard> $ groups: mu vboxusers
[12:20] <james147> ^^ yeah, you replaced all teh groups with vboxusers :p
[12:21] <james147> vanguard: reboot to recovery mode to get a root prompt then run "sudo usermod -a -G [list of groups you want to be in]"  make sure you add list the admin group
[12:21] <james147> (the -a will tell it to append the users rather then replace)
[12:21] <trudell> vanguard, the post helps you?
[12:21] <vanguard> james147: okay, I'll try that. After that I will unlock the root account -.-
[12:22] <vanguard> trudell: I will have to try, I am sitting at the machine right now
[12:22] <james147> vanguard: if you are part of the admin group then you are allowed to use sudo
[12:22] <trudell> alright
[12:22] <vanguard> how do I get into the recovery mode? I do not have boot manager screen.
[12:23] <trudell> use revore mode to access root
[12:23] <vanguard> revore?
[12:23] <james147> trudell: ^^ that post is mostly right, though it better to add -a (for append) with usermod so you dont remove all the other groups :) which is probally what happened
[12:23] <trudell> print the page to you see the ways
[12:23] <james147> trudell: ^^ also you cannot use su or sudo if you dont ahve a user in the admin group so you need to reboot to recovery mode or a live cd
[12:24] <trudell> you can acess recovery mode in boot, if you have lilo or grub installed
[12:24] <vanguard> I am not sure, it is a single OS Kubuntu 10.10 install
[12:24] <james147> vanguard: press shift during the boot sequence
[12:24] <vanguard> james147: thx
[12:24] <vanguard> I'll try, I should be back in five minutes or so. Thanks a lot guys
[12:24] <trudell> have you a boot manager like grub or lilo? its standard
[12:26] <trudell> choose boot from recovery mode rebooting, the the second option
[12:26] <james147> trudell: grub2 is the default boot manager on 10.10, and its usually safe to assume they have that if they dont know which they have :)
[12:26] <trudell> print tutorial first, ok?
[12:26] <trudell> bye
[12:27] <trudell> alright, i hope that he can solve his problem
[12:28] <trudell> its a funny problem LOL
[12:28] <vanguard> okay, shift does not work
[12:28] <vanguard> it just shows the blue Kubuntu screen and I am at login
[12:29] <vanguard> where is that sudoers file?
[12:29] <vanguard> or can I reset the root password with a live cd?
[12:30] <james147> vanguard: you can, but i think you will need to chroot into the install and run the usermod commend from there
[12:30] <james147> you shouldnt need to edit the sudoers file
[12:30] <vanguard> I do have a backup of the whole sytem from a week ago, would it make sense to recover the file from there?
[12:31] <james147> vanguard: you can.... but i think it would be quicker to boot a live cd and chroot
[12:31] <vanguard> james147: what is chroot?
[12:32] <james147> vanguard: once in the livecd you can come back here and we can guide you though it
[12:32] <vanguard> sounds like a plan :)
[12:32] <trudell> lol
[12:32] <vanguard> I'll just fire up my laptop, that way the PC is indepedent
[12:32] <mokush> anybody know something similar to thunderbird conversations for kmail?
[12:34] <trudell> is it possible that his kubuntu dont have safeboot on grub?
[12:35] <vanguard_> now it wouldn't even shut down ... I guess not being an admin is not quite a good think ...
[12:35] <vanguard_> *thing
[12:36] <james147> ^^ that shouldnt make a difference for shutdown :S
[12:36] <trudell> have you tried in boot?
[12:36] <vanguard_> trudell: you mean the recovery boot option?
[12:36] <vanguard_> trudell: or editing grub?
[12:37] <trudell> in grub have  an option to run linux in safe mod with an auto-root access
[12:37] <trudell> then you can get root acess with a terminal
[12:37] <vanguard_> trudell: it does not show me any grub at startup, and I could not edit anything without the sudo. I am booting the live cd now
[12:38] <trudell> then you can use that tutorial to get sudo to your account again http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1373913
[12:38] <trudell> its like simple and easier
[12:38] <vanguard_> btw: it boots with the fully blown grafical kubuntu screen from the cd, the ATI driver apparently crashed that install on harddrive
[12:39] <trudell> what laptop model are you using?
[12:39] <vanguard_> does anyone knows a mid range graphics card that works fine with kubuntu that I could put in my next computer?
[12:39] <vanguard_> trudell: I use an Asus Eee 1005HA, the broken sudo is on an Apple iMac
[12:39]  * james147 has never had a problem with nvidia cards... except the modbile ones ...
[12:40] <vanguard_> the Intel in the laptop works fine, it is just slow
[12:40] <trudell> your asus is with intel atom?
[12:40] <vanguard_> trudell: yes, and it works just fine
[12:40] <vanguard_> trudell: the iMac, which has way more power, does not support the desktop effects
[12:40] <trudell> and your operating system is developed by asus?
[12:40] <james147> vanguard_: ^^ that card isent ment for any advanced stuff :D but should run kde fine (my 1005HA at least runs kde smoothly)
[12:41] <vanguard_> james147: which card did you send?
[12:41] <trudell> yeah, its a good pc
[12:41] <vanguard_> My Asus runs KDE fine. (Atom + Intel GMA)
[12:41] <vanguard_> the iMac gets like 2 fps with KWin and Effects enabled
[12:41] <trudell> but your OS is developed by asus?
[12:42] <vanguard_> Well, Kubuntu is not developed by Asus, or am I mistaken?
[12:42] <james147> vanguard_: yeah it isent
[12:43] <trudell> kubuntu not, but, is pre-installed in your pc?
[12:43] <james147> dont think the 1005HA came with a linux distro at all :(
[12:43] <vanguard_> There was a Asus flavored Windows 7 Starter on the disk
[12:43] <trudell> alriught
[12:43] <vanguard_> the older ones had Xandros on it. I instaled Kubuntu on it myself
[12:43] <trudell> why reason your distro dont have grub?
[12:44] <james147> trudell: it does, just its hidden if there are no other operating system installed by default... holding shift should force it to show the menu not sure why it isnet
[12:45] <vanguard_> james147: maybe the iMac has some trouble with the USB Keyboard, it does not even have a regular BIOS, so I think that it might goof off
[12:45] <vanguard_> the live cd is loaded, what do I do?
[12:45] <trudell> till to recovery mode?
[12:46] <vanguard_> trudell: I pressed shift right after Apple's EFI decided to start Linux
[12:46] <trudell> your login is vanguard?
[12:46] <vanguard_> I just entered the regular OS
[12:46] <vanguard_> my login is mu
[12:46] <james147> vanguard_: first mount the installed root disk somewhere ("sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt"  where sdXY is you partition)
[12:47] <trudell> type 'su vanguard' then password
[12:47] <vanguard_> james147: I just selected them in dolphin :)
[12:47] <james147> vanguard_: you know where they are mounted?
[12:47] <vanguard_> I am in the live CD, not the recovery console
[12:47] <james147> vanguard_: ^^ your gona need to use a terminal for chroot
[12:48] <vanguard_> james147: the / disk is mounted in /media/disk-1 one
[12:48] <vanguard_> terminal fire up
[12:48] <trudell> alright, go to james tuto
[12:49]  * james147 ponders on what usermod needs ...
[12:49] <vanguard_> I do chroot /media/... and then act as if I was on my machine after all?
[12:49] <james147> ^^ bah, lets be safe and mount the other critical folders...
[12:50] <james147> sudo moung --bind /dev /media/disk-1/dev
[12:50] <james147> sudo mount --bind /dev /media/disk-1/dev  << even
[12:50] <vanguard_> k
[12:51] <vanguard_> james147: sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu (wtf?)
[12:51] <james147> then  "sudo mount --bind /proc /media/disk-1/proc"      and then    "sudo mount --bind /sys /media/disk-1/sys"
[12:51] <james147> hmm
[12:51] <vanguard_> james147: mount point /media.../dev/ does nost exist
[12:51] <james147> vanguard_: ^^ you made sure the path is correct?
[12:52] <vanguard_> I already did chroot, that might be it :D
[12:52] <james147> vanguard_: yeah...
[12:52] <james147> vanguard_: where did you chroot to?
[12:52] <vanguard_> to /media/disk-1/
[12:52] <trudell> hard work
[12:53] <vanguard_> now I think I am locked into there ...
[12:53] <james147> vanguard_: o well, then lets try the usermod then :)
[12:53]  * james147 wasnt sure that those files are needed...
[12:53] <james147> vanguard_: run "sudo usermod USER -a -G admin"
[12:54] <james147> ^^ actually you dont need sudo
[12:54] <vanguard_> usermod -a -G admin mu
[12:55] <james147> uea
[12:55] <james147> yea
[12:55] <vanguard_> # groups mu:
[12:55] <vanguard_> mu : mu admin vboxusers
[12:55] <vanguard_> might worked
[12:55] <vanguard_> I think I'll try to reboot now
[12:55] <james147> vanguard_: you can cat the /etc/group file to see if your suer has been added correctly
[12:55] <vanguard_> k
[12:55] <james147> or that ^^
[12:56] <james147> vanguard_: it should be safe to reboot now
[12:56] <james147> then you can add any other groups you might need
[12:56] <vanguard_> admin:x:119:mu:
[12:56] <vanguard_> sound good
[12:56] <james147> yup
[12:57] <vanguard_> and I am also in vboxusers, which was the indent of this whole mess
[12:57] <james147> that shouldnt matter, its being reemoved from admin that caused the problems :)
[12:57] <trudell> lol
[12:57] <james147> (probally when you tried to add the vbox group)
[12:58] <trudell> good tut to arm pcs
[12:58] <vanguard_> james147: right, that is the problem if someone who does not know exaclty what he does has the sudo rights
[12:59] <vanguard_> it works now. Thank you guys a lot!
[13:01] <trudell> i will try these options for test
[13:01] <trudell> thanks to james
[13:15] <trudell> james, are you here yet?
[13:16] <trudell> james, do you know how i can get the options used by kubuntu developers to compile mplayer engine ?
[13:18] <james147> trudell: ask in #kubuntu-devel   or probally the ubuntu devel channel might be better
[13:18] <trudell> alright man, thx so much
[13:20] <trudell> james, have anyone place to give suggests to developers?
[13:31] <trudell> they are muted james
[13:31] <trudell> there are a developer page?
[13:33] <james147> trudell: no, it just seems to be quite atm
[13:33] <james147> trudell: you might want to ask on the ubuntu development channel for mplayer
[13:34] <trudell> alright
[13:34] <trudell> do you think that they accept opnions?
[13:38] <james147> trudell: you can try ^^ but it would help if you also say your reasoning... and try not to appear rude
[13:41] <trudell> yeah
[13:42] <trudell> i and a lot of users thinks that is important a mplayer compiled with midi support
[13:42] <trudell> i compiled my own version of mplayer, but is incompatible with smplayer
[13:43] <trudell> so mplayer-plugin needs mplayer with midi support and timidity plugin to run midi files from web browser
[13:44] <trudell> but is out in kubuntu compilation
[13:44] <trudell> do you understood my and a lot of users problem?
[13:44] <BluesKaj> Hi Folks
[13:45] <trudell> hi blueskaj
[13:45] <BluesKaj> hi trudell
[13:45] <trudell> how do you do?
[13:45] <james147> Heya BluesKaj
[13:45] <BluesKaj> fine , and you ?
[13:46] <BluesKaj> hi james147
[13:46] <trudell> fine, thx
[13:46] <trudell> are you a kubuntu developer, blueskaj?
[13:47] <BluesKaj> trudell, no , I'm just an old guy who likes linux :)
[13:47] <trudell> me too
[13:47] <trudell> do you think that mplayer for kubuntu needs midi support?
[13:49] <BluesKaj> dunno , I play live music with our band, never had the need for midi stuff ...you can find a lot of interesting open source apps at www.hitsquad.com
[13:50] <trudell> nice page
[13:51] <trudell> but till webphones and tablets have midi support
[13:54] <BluesKaj> james147, what hapened to the /etc/rc.d file in maverick ?
[13:55]  * james147 thought it used /etc/init.d
[13:56] <BluesKaj> hmm , my poor memory again, ok thanks james147
[13:59] <trudell> yeah, but no mplayer isnt compiled to run it, so mplayer pulgin
[13:59] <trudell> not
[14:00] <BluesKaj> perhaps you can add a midi link in ~/.mplayer
[14:00] <trudell> i will ask in #ubuntu-devel
[14:00] <BluesKaj> or #mplayer
[14:03] <qiyan> #pardus-devel
[14:06] <trudell> great blueskaj, thx so much
[14:08] <BluesKaj> trudell, np
[15:05] <phoenix_firebrd> flash player 10.2 crashes. help needed
[15:06] <phoenix_firebrd> i am using nvidia gforce 9400gt
[15:09] <trudell> yeah, adobe bugs
[15:09] <trudell> here i'm till using v10.1.53.64
[15:11] <trudell> but a new version of flashplayer 10.2 was released
[15:12] <trudell> if you need i can sent to you version 10.1 that runs correctly
[15:13] <trudell> linux needs shockwave
[15:13] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, flash is a bit buggy on some setups with kde 4.6, I noticed that this morning , and it didn't happen with kde 4.5 ,
[15:14] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: oh
[15:14] <phoenix_firebrd> trudell: can you send me the old version?
[15:14] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: then you mean it should work find in other distros?
[15:15] <BluesKaj> I was checking tigerdirect for ssd drives , and flash crashed but recovered quickly
[15:15] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: what is your gpu?
[15:15] <BluesKaj> nvidia 8400gs
[15:15] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: good , mine too
[15:16] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: i will try with older kde
[15:17] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, don't fool around with flash too much , sometimes it's the browser and sometimes it's the site itself  ...and kde4.6 is fine otherwise
[15:18] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: i tried with all the browsers, i know its not kde, its with nvidia's vdpau and flash. but i am missing online videos
[15:18] <BluesKaj> using an older kde may not be the answer
[15:19] <trudell> yeah friend...
[15:19] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, why not post some of the urls that aren't working so we can test them too
[15:19] <trudell> can i send archives from this irc channel?
[15:19] <BluesKaj> trudell, dcc?
[15:20] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: youtube.com
[15:20] <trudell> i think so. i'm noob in irc
[15:20] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, yes , but any particular videos?
[15:21] <trudell> blue, how i can send an archive to phoenix?
[15:21] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: all videos in all online video websites
[15:21] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, how do videos play with other codecs like avi or mkv
[15:22] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: do you want to know whether vdpau is working or not?
[15:23] <trudell> how i can send archive to phoenix?
[15:24] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, , which nividia driver ?
[15:24] <trudell> this is 10.1 version
[15:25] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: mplayer shows that vdpau is working, but i think its not. since it consumes cpu very much. latest time when it worked cpu was around 5%, but nows its around 30%
[15:26] <trudell> phoenix, accept the archive
[15:26] <robbit10> I just installed Kubuntu and KDE 4.6, but have come across a huge problem: krunner keeps segfaulting
[15:26] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, I repeat ,how do videos play with other codecs like avi or mkv
[15:27] <trudell> what, blue?
[15:27] <trudell> dcc failed
[15:27] <phoenix_firebrd> one min guys
[15:28] <robbit10> And that's quite a large problem which makes KDE 4.6 almost unusable for me, because krunner starts at every boot of KDE 4.6, and it spawns constant error dialogs that steal focus away from any applications I try to use.
[15:28] <trudell> [DCC] Solicitando de phoenix_firebrd o aceite do envio de "install_flash_player_10_linux.deb" (4,5 MB)...
[15:29] <james147> robbit10: run this: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" << that will make sure your are fully uptodate and arnt missing any packages
[15:30] <james147> robbit10: ^^ if it dosnt seem to install anything then I suggest you try a new user to see if its a config error
[15:30] <trudell> i cant understood you blueskaj
[15:32] <robbit10> james147: alright, i will be right back
[15:33] <BluesKaj> trudell, I was speaking to phoenix_firebrd ...read the lines and you'll see his nick
[15:34] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: the avi and mkv files that are 1080p are choppy when playing with mplayer based players, but it plays well with xbmc
[15:34] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, try vlc
[15:35] <phoenix_firebrd> trudell: i couldnt get you. can you send me the .deb file to my email id or can you paste the link to the download location
[15:35] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: vlc is worst
[15:36] <trudell> sure, send me your e-mail by private message
[15:36] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, then you have either a grphics hardware or driver porblem , I asked before which nvidia driver you have?
[15:37] <trudell> i always hold older versions of flash player for security
[15:37] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, apt-cache policy nvidia-current
[15:38] <trudell> well, i dont understand you blueskaj...
[15:38] <trudell> but i run mkv and avi by exta-codecs package
[15:38] <BluesKaj> trudell, I'm not talking to you !
[15:38] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: propitiatory nvidia 9400gt version  260.19.06
[15:39] <trudell> i'm running with smp, mp, kaffeine by extra-codecs
[15:39] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: xserver 1.9
[15:40] <BluesKaj> you mean xserver 1.09
[15:40] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: 1.9.0
[15:42] <BluesKaj> right sorry
[15:42] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: i am reinstalling chromium
[15:44]  * BluesKaj shrugs , doubt that will make any diff unless you delete the config files too, phoenix_firebrd
[15:44] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: ya no use
[15:45] <phoenix_firebrd> shall i reinstall the nvidia driver ?
[15:47] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: i think the new driver will solve the problem
[15:49] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd,  yes : http://paste.ubuntu.com/566343/
[15:50] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: thank you for the steps, i really needed that
[15:56] <trudell> are you sure that new driver will be resolve that problem?
[15:57] <BluesKaj> trudell, not sure but sometimes drivers don't install or upgrade properly
[15:58] <ImGangsta> !ops
[16:06] <trudell> the problem isnt the video driver, the problem is in flashplayer plugin
[16:07] <trudell> for linux. The newer version for ubuntu runs perfectly. Go to http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer and install for that
[16:08] <BluesKaj> ok trudell , if you say so :)
[16:08] <trudell> i installed now to test, and it works :-)
[16:08] <BluesKaj> trudell, the default flashplugin-installer is the best one to use
[16:09] <trudell> version 10.2.152.27, only for linux
[16:09] <trudell> the version 20.2.152.26 have bugs
[16:09] <BluesKaj> I have the default flash and it works fine
[16:09] <trudell> default from repositories?
[16:10] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: the problem is solved
[16:10] <trudell> to me the better is from adobe.com
[16:10] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: i downloaded the latest nvidia driver from their website and installed .
[16:10] <phoenix_firebrd> trudell: no
[16:10] <trudell> yes
[16:11] <trudell> here, running perfectly
[16:11] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, why ?
[16:11] <trudell> i tested in you tube too
[16:11] <phoenix_firebrd> trudell:read the release highlights in this page  http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-260.19.36-driver.html
[16:11] <lithpr> Hi!  I'm just getting started with Kubuntu.  I do not see a way to remove the #kubuntu channel from the default quassel irc client
[16:11] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: it seems that there was a bug in nvidia driver
[16:12] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-260.19.36-driver.html
[16:12] <trudell> is it the last version?
[16:12] <BluesKaj> in your browser url , about:plugins  you should have this ,Shockwave Flash 10.2 r152
[16:12] <phoenix_firebrd> trudell: ya
[16:13] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: whom are you talking to?
[16:13] <trudell> lithpr - use serve lists
[16:13] <trudell> likes good driver
[16:13] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, you have the 9400 , I have the 8400 nvidia card ...different drivers
[16:14] <trudell> Fixed a bug that caused pixel value 255 to be treated as transparent in color index overlays. GOOD
[16:14] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, both of you :)
[16:15] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: thank you
[16:15] <phoenix_firebrd> trudell: see you
[16:15] <trudell> are you going out?
[16:16] <phoenix_firebrd> trudell: ya
[16:16] <trudell> good bye bro
[16:16] <trudell> cya
[16:16] <phoenix_firebrd> trudell:bye
[16:17] <lithpr> thank you!   I just changed the settings for the original server.  When i created a new one it was configurable..
[16:17] <trudell> BluesKaj, but installing from Hardware Drivers Management dont be better?
[16:18] <trudell> cuz, it recognize the video card, dont?
[16:21] <trudell> BluesKaj: where i can found a good irc for pc games in this server?
[16:21] <trudell> or another?
[16:31] <trudell> #kubuntu-offtopic
[16:34] <lithpr> if the software-manangement app found in System Settings specific to kubuntu or is it part of the KDE compilation?
[16:35] <lithpr> is*
[16:35] <trudell> yah
[16:35] <james147> lithpr: not sure if its part of kde yet... but it is not kubuntu spcific, you can get different backends for other distros for it
[16:35] <NathanaelG> hi all
[16:35] <trudell> yah
[16:36] <NathanaelG> is there a possibility to run flash in rekonq?
[16:36] <james147> NathanaelG: yes
[16:36] <lithpr> okay, i see.  Is it considered safe to use apt-get/apt-add-repository directly from the command line with kubuntu?
[16:36]  * james147 found that it just worked once flash was installed form the repos
[16:36] <NathanaelG> james147: and how=? i can't bring farmerama to work in rekonq
[16:37] <james147> lithpr: yeah, its safe
[16:37] <lithpr> thanks james147
[16:37] <james147> NathanaelG: farmerama?
[16:38] <trudell> why something in kde arent compiled in kubuntu distro?
[16:38] <trudell> bugs?
[16:39] <james147> trudell: what do you mean?
[16:39] <trudell> about your conversation
[16:39] <NathanaelG> james147: yeah, I know, but I do like to play that flash game from time to time... and i normally like rekonq better than firefox, usually
 lithpr: not sure if its part of kde yet... but it is not kubuntu spcific, you can get different backends for other distros for it
[16:40] <james147> NathanaelG: ^^ do you have flash installed? and how did you install it?
[16:40] <NathanaelG> james147: flashplayer-installer
[16:40] <james147> trudell: still dont know what you are tring to say
[16:40] <NathanaelG> nothing else works for my firefox atm
[16:40] <james147> NathanaelG: try reinstalling it then restart rekonq
[16:40] <trudell> nevermind
[16:40] <NathanaelG> james147: i just did so
[16:40] <trudell> isnt important
[16:41] <trudell> just curiousity
[16:41] <james147> NathanaelG: could you try a clean profile (by testing it on a new user) and see if it works with them
[16:42] <trudell> james, your name is james or michael?
[16:42] <NathanaelG> ofc james147
[16:42] <james147> trudell: both
[16:42] <trudell> michael james or james michael?
[16:42] <james147> first
[16:42] <trudell> alright
[16:43] <trudell> nice to meet you, james
[16:44] <trudell> james, do you know where i can find a good irc channel for PC GAMES, with trade etc.?
[16:44] <james147> trudell: you could try #games  << though i dont even know if it exists :)
[16:45] <trudell> do exist, but empty
[16:45] <NathanaelG> brb, eating
[16:45] <trudell> only the op
[16:46] <james147> trudell: then i guess not ^^ google search for irc freenode game channel might tell you more
[16:46] <Daskreech> trudell: #gametome
[16:47] <trudell> Daskreech, for general PC games?
[16:47] <Daskreech> trudell: Heavily FLOSS but you can easily start converstations on other games
[16:48] <trudell> alright, thx dude
[16:52] <d3jake> Can anyone here tell me the command that will let me go into a linux install from a liveCD and act upon it as if it was the only install in existance, and install packages, etc?
[16:53] <james147> d3jake: you need to create a chroot
[16:53] <d3jake> chroot sounds familiar...
[16:53] <james147> s/create/setup/
[16:54] <trudell> chroot maybe a french dish
[16:54] <d3jake> What I want to do is reinstall grub because I just wiped out a newer install of kubuntu that uses grub2, and I replaced it with an install that uses grub(1), so I can't boot...
[16:54] <trudell> :)) LOL
[16:56] <NathanaelG> james147: it doesnt work with a new user neither
[16:56] <trudell> so grub 2 is necessary to run new ubuntu versions?
[16:56] <klobster> hello!
[16:56] <klobster> hello?
[16:57] <rork> hello.
[16:58] <rork> !grub2 | d3jake
[16:58] <d3jake> rork: I have an older version of kubuntu that I've latched onto because it was the last one to use KDE3
[16:58] <d3jake> Hence why I'm trying to get the older version of grub.
[16:59] <klobster> I'm hoping someone can help me; I want to uninstall any unnecessary packages from my kubuntu install.  It's a base install on a CR-48.  I've deleted the old kernel and office.  Can you recomend any others?
[17:07] <rork> d3jake: there is a guide to reinstalling grub from older live cd's here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Grub#Grub%20Legacy%20%28Ubuntu%209.04%20and%20earlier%20as%20well%20as%20upgraded%20to%209.10%29
[17:09] <d3jake> rork: Thanks!
[17:10] <rork> you're welcome
[17:10] <trudell> !chroot
[17:11] <trudell> !fmod
[17:11] <trudell> !fmodx
[17:11] <trudell> !fmodex
[17:11] <trudell> !mplayer
[17:11] <trudell> !codecs
[17:12] <lithpr> what software can i use to partition disks?
[17:12] <lithpr> (in kubuntu)
[17:12] <BajK> lithpr: in 10.10 there should be KDE Partition Manager preinstalled in systemsettings available
[17:12] <lithpr> i don't see anything in System Settings
[17:12] <BajK> go to Systemsettings -> Software and type Partition
[17:12] <lithpr> oic
[17:12] <BajK> there should come "KDE Partition Manager"
[17:12] <trudell> why i cant use restricted formats?
[17:13] <lithpr> sorry, i was looking at "hardware", it's in "system administration"
[17:13] <lithpr> thank you BajK
[17:13] <BajK> lithpr: right at the bottom, one of the last entries :)
[17:13] <BajK> Is there something broken in 10.10? I dont see a policykit configuration and I cannot save the password for installing a package or something
[17:13] <BajK> it worked in 10.04 I think
[17:13] <rork> !medibuntu | trudell
[17:14] <rork> You'll find many restricted codecs there
[17:15] <trudell> BajK, are you BluesKaj?
[17:15] <BajK> nope :D
[17:15] <BajK> I have libpolkit-qt-1-1 and stuff installed, also polkit-kde-1 but I cannot save the permissions, nor is there a policy configuration in systemsettings
[17:16] <trudell> yeah, but is an repository, dont? Have any problem if i use win codecs, for example?
[17:17] <rork> trudell: yes, it's a repository where you can install things like w32codecs from, I didn't have any problems after installing them, what problems are you worried about?
[17:18] <trudell> have i illegal problems if i have installed programs from restricted repositories?
[17:19] <Daskreech> trudell: depends on where you are. Can't answer that
[17:19] <BajK> mhkay, so this polkit editor is no longer present. wow, super, super comfort here. digging in text files -.- this rocks.
[17:19] <trudell> for example win32codecs, is it illegal to install it?
[17:20] <BajK> trudell: who cares..
[17:20] <trudell> LOL
[17:20] <BajK> I mean, following ms eula I am not even allowed using IE6 on my wine since I dont have a proper win install
[17:20] <trudell> well i prefer win codecs
[17:21] <trudell> and extra-codecs
[17:21] <Daskreech> trudell: I think it is but not in the manner that the repos do it
[17:22] <trudell> well, but wine have own ie6, not microsoft ie6
[17:22] <trudell> a little confuse these discussion
[17:23] <trudell> bill gates takes linux ideas, why linux cant have windows bullshit?
[17:24] <BajK> trudell: ?
[17:25] <BajK> I don't see any linux ideas in windows, otherwise windows would be a usable, comfortable, advanced operating system, which it isnt :)
[17:25] <trudell> windows 7 is a copy of kde 3.5
[17:25] <trudell> the new windows security system too
[17:25] <BajK> I would say these ideas emerged separately from each other
[17:26] <trudell> why linux dont be permission to have standard microsoft video codecs?
[17:26] <BajK> it's funny how to see that development: Mac OS was the first consumer OS with widgets and a dashboard (maybe there were others, but.), Microsoft copied that idea with Longhorn/Vista/7 and failed miserably and KDE took this idea to the next step of a superior plasma desktop where basically everthing is a widget :)
[17:27] <Daskreech> trudell: it's a copy of UNIX 50 year old Security system because it's worked for 50 years whereas the Microsoft system worked for 5 years
[17:27] <Daskreech> BajK: It is a comfortable opeerating system give some credit where due
[17:27] <trudell> i think not BajK, cause till windowsxp , windows dont had root for system archives
[17:28] <Daskreech> hi bluesceada
[17:28] <Daskreech> grr
[17:28] <Daskreech> hi BluesKaj :)
[17:28] <trudell> yeah, youre right dasreech
[17:28] <BajK> I always laugh so hard at people with their Vista/7 and their UAC, which dims the whole screen and takes forever to load even on fast computers. Kde does the same - if enabled - using nice hardware acceleration :)
[17:28] <trudell> but i prefer oracle tahn windows
[17:28] <trudell> windows have a weak security system
[17:28] <Daskreech> trudell: you are comparing a company to an OS? I'd love to see the chart on that
[17:29] <trudell> kde have a better visual than windows 7
[17:29] <trudell> i have a legal copy of windows, but i prefer linux
[17:29] <BajK> 3 original shiney bling bling XP professional CDs anyone?^^
[17:30] <Daskreech> again a little hard to compare since new KDE comes out every 6 months with improvements every month where a new Windows comes out every 4 years with an improvement about once a year
[17:30] <Daskreech> BajK: I'll take one :)
[17:30] <BajK> :) I have no use for them anymore since all our computers are now running Kubuntu
[17:31] <trudell> yeah, me too
[17:31] <BajK> my mom just loves it :)
[17:31] <trudell> wine rus windows apps better then windows also
[17:32] <trudell> i cant run my windows xp programs on my vista properly, so not properly vista programs on windows 7
[17:32] <BajK> sometimes I ask myself why windows doesnt use all your AltGr-keys?
[17:32] <trudell> win98 forget it, dos till dosbox cant run it on windows
[17:32] <BajK> I mean, even for proper quotation marks, you need an Alt+Ascii combination, or for copyright/trademark symbols
[17:33] <trudell> LOL
[17:33] <BajK> I always get nuts when sitting at a windows pc, trying to enter an opening quotation mark and am hittin AltGR+V and nothing happens
[17:34] <trudell> the good kubuntu nvdrivers can run 3D games more faster than in windows version
[17:34] <trudell> LOL
[17:34] <trudell> BajK you are so funny
[17:34] <BajK> kay..
[17:35] <trudell> i have abandoned windows forever
[17:36] <Daskreech> \0/
[17:36] <trudell> i cant remember how much time i have used windows for the last time
[17:36] <Daskreech> welcome to Linux and KDE :)
[17:37] <trudell> yeah, i have adopted kubuntu as standard, cause i love kde
[17:37] <trudell> and i love debian system
[17:42] <BluesKaj> well, altho nvidia propriatary driver 260.19.36 is recommended for my gfx card , the driver causes the cpu to run kde at 100% load ,and it won't boot properly into X , so the default nvidia-current 260.19.06 driver is the correct one for my system
[17:42] <d3jake> I have returned! The trick with forcing grub to recreate itself worked, except when I try to boot into my older kubuntu install, the indicator bar bounces back and forth. I tried to boot in recovery mode, but it stalls after talking about using a unified CD rom driver, and says "/dev/disk/by-uuid/35570fab-2299-498b-a03f-faa0afdc5e0ff does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" What does this mean...? Can it be fixed?
[17:42] <trudell> hi blue
[17:44] <BluesKaj> d3jake, it's not a trick , just update-grub , it will reconfig with latest settings
[17:45] <trudell> what video card ou have, blue?
[17:45] <d3jake> BluesKaj: So, on the shell that it drops me to, type update-grub ?
[17:45] <BluesKaj> sudo update-grub, d3
[17:45] <BluesKaj> err d3jake
[17:46] <d3jake> Okie, dokie, I'll go try that out.
[17:49]  * BluesKaj shakes his head in disbelief
[17:49] <trudell> why reason?
[17:51] <trudell> Bjak is muted
[17:52] <trudell> I said that in a good sense, kay?
[17:55] <trudell> people here prefer azureus or ktorrent?
[17:58] <trudell> people here knows if have dc++ for linux?
[17:58] <BluesKaj> ktorrent , it's lighter
[17:59] <BluesKaj> azureus is java I believe and it's clunky and hoggy
[17:59] <trudell> hoggy? what is it?
[18:00] <BluesKaj> it's pig :)
[18:00] <BluesKaj> a
[18:00] <trudell> LOL
[18:00] <trudell> likes to be a good apearence
[18:01] <BluesKaj> with lipstick :)
[18:01] <trudell> but apears to be a lot different from ktorrent
[18:02] <vanguard> where does kubuntu store my start menu favorites?
[18:02] <trudell> hi vanguard
[18:02] <vanguard> trudell: hi :)
[18:03] <BluesKaj> well, I prefer ktorrent ..looks don't matter too much , altho I prefer it not to be too ugly
[18:03] <BluesKaj> vanguard, in the kmenu
[18:03] <trudell> .kde/share/config , dont?
[18:04] <trudell> kickoffrc archive
[18:06] <vanguard> trudell: yep, there they are. Now I can sync them around :)
[18:07] <trudell> good luck
[18:07] <vanguard> trudell: well, unison is working for me ever since
[18:08] <trudell> what is unison?
[18:08] <vanguard> it is a file syncing tool, works over SSH
[18:09] <vanguard> it detects changes on both sides and synces the files back and forth
[18:09] <trudell> aaah alright
[18:09] <vanguard> also detects deletions and can even merge text files
[18:09] <trudell> oh nice, i need a program that do something else
[18:11] <vanguard> trudell: what do you need?
[18:11] <trudell> in this moment i want to know if have an DC++ hub program for linux, do you know about it?
[18:14] <BluesKaj> trudell, http://opendchub.sourceforge.net/
[18:16] <trudell> GREAT BluesKaj
[18:16] <trudell> i search in google and i cant found it
[18:17] <BluesKaj> trudell, www.google-linux.com
[18:18] <BluesKaj> err www.googlelinux.com , I think :)
[18:20] <BluesKaj> nope it's http://www.google.com/linux :)
[18:20] <trudell> LoL, so thx so much, finally i installed dchub on my linux
[18:20] <trudell> thx
[18:21] <BluesKaj> trudell, ifyou run FF , then you can add it in the searchbar , manage search engines
[18:22] <trudell> http://www.google.com/windows <-- NOT FOUND LOL
[18:22] <surunveri> hi
[18:22] <surunveri> is there any way to decrease mouse sentivity further than what system settings allows
[18:22] <surunveri> ?
[18:22] <BluesKaj> http://www.google.com/linux
[18:22] <trudell> i'm just joking, blue
[18:23] <trudell> linux have private search engine, windows not
[18:23] <pr_> hello guys, I would apreciate some help here. I have a netbook with 3g modem integrated. it used to work on kubuntu 10.4 now on 10.10 is not working. Does anyone knows what should i do ?
[18:23] <BluesKaj> trudell, you can use the tab bar to auto-finish nicks on irc
[18:24] <trudell> BluesKaj: LOL, good!
[18:25] <trudell> BluesKaj: Linving and Learning on Kubuntu-IRC
[18:26] <BluesKaj> just found out that html5 will work on youtube if flash doesn't
[18:26] <vanguard> statements like this can be done with the /me command :)
[18:26] <trudell> your netbook have ARM processor?
[18:27] <pr_> atom
[18:28] <trudell> have idea about BluesKaj?
[18:28] <trudell> asus?
[18:28] <pr_> lg x-140  i think it is only sold in brazil and korea
[18:29] <trudell> are you brazilian or korean?
[18:29] <pr_> the wan is  rtl8191
[18:29] <pr_> brazilian
[18:29] <trudell> manero bixo
[18:29] <trudell> LOL
[18:29] <pr_> :)
[18:30] <trudell> sabia desse lançamento da lg não
[18:30] <d3jake> This is what I get when I tried to update-grub: http://pastebin.com/c6MkXSc3 Perhaps I missed a step?
[18:30] <pr_> roubada...não tem drivers nem para win ...pior suporte do mundo
[18:31] <trudell> BluesKaj: Do you know something about?
[18:31] <pr_> já se fala em ação coletiva no procon para conseguir os drivers originais
[18:31] <trudell> vixe, ainda bem q linux não precisa de drivers especiais
[18:31] <BluesKaj> trudell, I'm looking for info on html5
[18:31] <trudell> mas deve pecar m pouco na qualidade então né?
[18:32] <trudell> vc devia ter pego um asus, tela resistiva multi-touch
[18:32] <pr_> eu to descontente...queria vende-lo, mas não posso pq as pessoas sõ querem comprar com win...
[18:33] <pr_> não consegui nem o windows original
[18:33] <trudell> meio tablet meio desktop
[18:33] <BluesKaj> !pt
[18:33] <d3jake> Somehow my German doesn't help here....
[18:33] <BluesKaj> !english
[18:34] <surunveri> does anyone know of a way to decrease mouse sentivity further than what system settings allows for a logitech G1 mouse?
[18:34] <pr_> ok ! sorry!
[18:34] <trudell> pirateia, tem desblokeador de windows 7 na net, da pra vc instalar como genuíno
[18:34] <surunveri> *sensitivity
[18:35] <surunveri> it's for drawing which is hard if the sensitivity is too high
[18:35] <trudell> sorry BluesKaj
[18:35] <d3jake> I forget who told me about "sudo update-grub", but I don't believe that it's working for me...  http://pastebin.com/c6MkXSc3
[18:36] <trudell> sacou o lance, pr?
[18:36] <BluesKaj> d3jake, sudo update-grub is just that , it doesn't fix broken packages , it only updates changes in grub settings
[18:37] <trudell> what video card comes with this netbook?
[18:37] <vanguard> I have lampp (Apache+MySQL+X) installed for root, but I would like to sync the MySQL database files with my normal account. What can I do? Change users on lampp install?
 what video card comes with this netbook?
[18:38] <pr_> checking
[18:38] <pr_> intel n10
[18:38] <surunveri> i've had this sensitivity problem buggin me for 6months or so already but i guess there's no soluton then
[18:38] <pr_> integrated on chipset
[18:39] <surunveri> .D
[18:39] <trudell> i think that you wont be problem if you install windows shitven
 http://www.ratondownload.com.br/2009/06/windows-7-ultimate-genuine-activation.html
[18:40] <d3jake> BluesKaj: Perhaps some poking around grub's documentation will help me unravel the error I have...
[18:40] <pr_> legal
[18:41] <BluesKaj> d3jake, it appears that grub did update properly tho
[18:43] <swair> can any one tell me why this is giving error? http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Using_KXmlGuiWindow#mainwindow.h
[18:43] <vanguard> surunveri: maybe there is a way to alter the mouse settings other than the KDE settings. I am used to more tuning myself ...
[18:45] <trudell> BluesKaj: alright
[18:47] <d3jake> BluesKaj: It did, but when I try to boot into Linux from my HDD, it either hangs at the screen with the indicator bar going back and forth, or the recovery mode says that it can't find /dev/disk/by-uuid ...
[18:51] <BluesKaj> bbl..lunch
[18:52] <rosco_y> has anyone had a problem with the pastebin widget not working when they drop a text file on it?
[18:52] <rosco_y> I am getting a big "no smoking" type of symbol
[18:53] <trudell> BluesKaj: i'm getting out
[18:54] <trudell> cya
[18:54] <trudell> cya vanguard
[18:54] <trudell> c ya all
[19:00] <BluesKaj> rosco_y, I just keep the pastebin.com blank page bookmark on my browser bookmarks toolbar
[19:50] <lithpr> hi- anyone install sun-java6-jre on kubuntu 11.04?
[19:54] <gpc> !partners
[19:58] <Pici> !natty
[19:59] <lithpr> gpc: unfortunately, sun-java6-jre isn't in the natty partner repo, and adding the maverick repo fails as well
[20:00] <gpc> lithpr: probably want to ask in #ubuntu+1
[20:00] <lithpr> oaky
[20:00] <lithpr> gpc: ty
[20:01] <lithpr> i can probably just forego java for now anyway... the only thing i use it for is box.net
[20:03] <lithpr> if i have to choose between sun-java* or kde 4.6, i'll go with kde 4.6 :)
[20:07]  * james147 notes that maverick has kde4.6 in backports
[20:32] <lkp> i have a netbook with win 7. whats the best way to dual-boot it with kubuntu 10.04 without using wubi?
[20:33] <ZenGuy> lkp if you have an extrenal drive backup your info... use the windows disk management softwate to shrink your partition then reboot then put your ubuntu usb/cd into your pc.. boot up again and install onto the remaining space you created
[20:34] <BluesKaj> !dualboot
[20:35] <lkp> k thanks guys. g2g
[20:35] <ZenGuy> peace
[20:50] <AciD> hi
[20:51] <AciD> I'm using the kde v4.6 from kubuntu's ppa. now my upper taskbar (which is set to auto hide)..won't hide anymore. It's a new behavior non seen in the previous version
[20:52] <AciD> in that taskbar there is the notification part and the windows button list for the current display
[20:52] <soukoye> quit
[20:54] <AciD> ah and if I do kquitapp plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop, the toolbar stays unhidden :(
[21:00] <FahiM> Hello dear
[21:00] <FahiM> I need a help, please anyone can PM pls,
[21:02] <mUrshEd-kUbunTu> I need help about offlince restrict files
[21:06] <Daskreech> mUrshEd-kUbunTu: Just ask your question
[21:09] <mUrshEd-kUbunTu> @Daskreech, i have ubuntu restrickt files, so i dont want to download again kubuntu restrict file. Because i am from Bangladesh and i am using Mobile broadband. Its Data usage is limit. So pleaseh elp me how to install Ubuntu offline restrict files to Kubutnu 10.10. And also i have another problem on Kubuntu, when i log out, its Hang, not working. Just turn my laptop manully :(
[21:09] <Daskreech> mUrshEd-kUbunTu: Where do you have them?
[21:10] <mUrshEd-kUbunTu> I download it from maybe ubuntugeek.com (name- Ubuntu 10.04 Offline restrict)
[21:11] <mUrshEd-kUbunTu> its a zip files
[21:12] <Daskreech> mUrshEd-kUbunTu: And you are on 10.04 ?
[21:12] <mUrshEd-kUbunTu> No, my version is 10.10
[21:14] <mUrshEd-kUbunTu> Any suggestion, please
[21:15] <mUrshEd-kUbunTu> actually i like to watch movie and listening song..................
[21:17] <mUrshEd-kUbunTu> OK. maybe all are busy
[21:17] <mUrshEd-kUbunTu> Take care, bye
[21:26] <FloridaGuy> any kernel newer then the 2.26.35....in backports or ppa
[21:36] <Daskreech> FloridaGuy: Yes
[21:50] <d3jake> Assuming this is the shame channel I was in earlier today: I fixed my bootloader, I just had to grab te new UUID from /dev/disk/. Now I can get to the login screen, but when typing in the correct username and password, the login screen disappears for a few second, but then the screen goes blank, and then I'm dropped to the same login window. When I drop to the console, I can login without issues, but then I can't figure out how to get back to KDE....
[21:59] <Simisu> hello everyone, i'm currently downloading kubuntu (after failing to install ubuntu due to several different crashes...) i will be installing it on an external usb HDD with a 45gig ext4 partition and a 3gig swap partition... does this sound ok or should the partitions be using ext3 for kubuntu (or it makes no difference)
[22:02] <illio> Hey there.. I'm experiencing an odd error with my Kubuntu install on a desktop. After an update (simple packages and a kernel) and a reboot, I get kdm up correctly and it recognizes the username/password combo correctly, however it doesn't log in.. it just goes to black screen for two secs and then goes back to the login screen.. Any idea what the issue is?
[22:04] <d3jake> You have my problem.
[22:04] <d3jake> I'm still working on it...
[22:05] <illio> d3jake, oh .. well I sympathize then :-) .. any idea what the issue is regarding?
[22:05] <illio> d3jake, I'm thinking some X config issue during an update..
[22:06] <d3jake> I think so, I'm looking at my /var/log/kdm.log... It seems it can't open display 0
[22:06] <d3jake> illio: I think so, I'm looking at my /var/log/kdm.log... It seems it can't open display 0
[22:07] <illio> d3jake, hmm .. perhaps one could look at update logs and check exactly what was changed in X-related packages .. if we can find what was changed, we can probably find what's making it break
[22:07] <illio> d3jake, I definitely didn't have the issue before the update, so I'm quite sure that's the cause.
[22:07] <d3jake> My back-story isn't quite the same :).
[22:07] <illio> d3jake, and I did nothing between updating and rebooting..
[22:08] <illio> d3jake, what's your story then?
[22:09] <d3jake> illio: I had Kubuntu 10.10 Trinity installed, but it wasn't quite my taste, so I wanted to use my old Kubuntu 8.08 install that used KDE3. So, I deleted my old install out of the partition, and then copied the old folder (from an older HDD) into my current HDD.
[22:09] <d3jake> I had to fiddle with grub, but now I can boot, but I have the same issue you have.
[22:10] <illio> d3jake, hehe.. yeah okay.. not really the same cause I guess :-P I just coded, saw an update, updated, rebooted and was then basically fucked :-P.. Luckily I have quite a few synchronized workstations.. none of the other Kubuntu machines have failed.
[22:10] <d3jake> hehe
[22:11] <d3jake> illio: So, similar issue, but different ways of getting there.... Any guesses as to what the issue is?
[22:11] <Simisu> hello everyone, i'm currently downloading kubuntu (after failing to install ubuntu due to several different crashes...) i will be installing it on an external usb HDD with a 45gig ext4 partition and a 3gig swap partition... does this sound ok or should the partitions be using ext3 for kubuntu (or it makes no difference)  thanks in advance
[22:11] <illio> d3jake, not at the moment no.. I'm at the office and the offending machine is at home.. I'll look into it later tonight or perhaps tomorrow.. If I find a fix I'll try to remember to say so in here..
[22:12] <d3jake> I've found something that may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=822034
[22:12] <illio> d3jake, hmm looks promising
[22:13] <d3jake> illio: Trouble is, I can't use apt-get, as my console is apparently not smart enough to talk to the internet, nor use dpkg-reconfigure... unless I typoed something.
[22:13] <d3jake> illio: You are in Denmark?
[22:13] <illio> d3jake, hmm that sounds odd.. anything your gui can do, you shell should be able to..
[22:13] <illio> d3jake, yep
[22:13] <d3jake> CooL!
[22:13] <illio> d3jake, Aarhus to be specific.. you?
[22:13] <d3jake> Minnesota, in the US
[22:14] <d3jake> I have a friend in the northern part of Denmark.
[22:14] <illio> d3jake, hehe.. hadn't checked your ip so was expecting something like Copenhagen :-P
[22:14] <d3jake> Naw
[22:14] <illio> d3jake, oh okay.. which part?
[22:14] <illio> d3jake, as in: which city really..?
[22:15] <d3jake> South of St. Paul, the capitol city.
[22:16] <illio> d3jake, hehe I meant which city in Denmark was your friend from :-P ..
[22:16] <d3jake> Oh...
[22:16] <d3jake> no clue
[22:16] <d3jake> >.>
[22:17] <illio> d3jake, :-) Hehe fair enough.. most of our city names are weird anyway.. Like (roughly translated): colon, beer good, penis and darkness
[22:17] <d3jake> illio: DO you know how to initialize the network from the console?
[22:17] <illio> i.e. Tarm, Ølgod, Lem and Mørke.
[22:18] <illio> d3jake, best option would just be to add a wire, do a ifconfig eth0 up (or whatever your device was) and do a dhclient eth0 .. would work in most setups
[22:18] <illio> d3jake, you can also do a wireless setup from the shell, but it's irritating to do imo.
[22:19] <d3jake> illio: Okie.... I'll try that first suggestion.
[22:19] <illio> d3jake, good :-) .. I'll drink more beer and write more code now.. Have a nice day there in Minnesota :-)
[22:20] <d3jake> illio: Thanks!
[22:20] <d3jake> illio: Have fun in Dermark!
[22:20] <illio> d3jake, no problem.. and thanks to you too :-)
[22:21] <d3jake> illio:" I'd like to have fun in Denmark, but I woul dneed to swim there =P
[22:21] <avihay> Hi, I have a broken kubuntu 10.04, and I've decided to replace it with a fresh kubuntu 10.10. I've already readyed a usb stick with the installation. I wonder if I could get some help and tips for the installation. some of the issues are: how do I get a list of manually installed packages, so that I can reinstall them, how well will my encripted privet folder fare after the installation? do I start useing grub2? I think it's best if most of my filesystem
[22:21] <avihay> would remain EXT3, especially because of the long time it takes to process the package information.
[22:23] <illio> d3jake, haha.. there are planes going here :-P It's not like were in a remote unreachable part of the world ;-) .. So for something like $1000 you can get to Denmark and back .. easy peasy :-)
[22:23] <d3jake> I am a poor college student :p
[22:24] <d3jake> avihay: I can only guess, but perhaps you could look into the apt documentation to see if there is a way to get a list of installed packages.
[22:25] <avihay> I was hoping someone could tell me out the top of his head
[22:26] <illio> d3jake, hehe.. we have free university education and actually get paid to study (about the equivalent of $1000 pr. month) .. so the college students here are a bit more privileged in that regard :-)
[22:26] <d3jake> illio: Aye. I'd love to travel outside the US. I have family from three or four generations still in Southern Germany and Austria.
[22:27] <avihay> I guess I'd start rummeging through the apt-cashe manpage
[22:27] <avihay> anyone know about the privet folder issue?
[22:28] <illio> d3jake, Save up.. it's not that hard to do.. perhaps save money by couch surfing in other countries.. it'll probably be easy to find university students giving you a free place to crash..
[22:28] <d3jake> illio: I play the game Descent 3 online, and made a number of friends in Germany, so if I can get over there, I'll lieky have a place to stay here or there.
[22:29] <illio> d3jake, consider going to GOTOCon in Denmark perhaps.. They give free food and lodging and you get a free (normally very expensive) conference assuming you're willing to be crew.. http://gotocon.com/aarhus-2011/
[22:29] <d3jake> illio: I'll give it a looksee.
[22:29] <illio> d3jake, okay cool. Germany is okay too.. a bit in need of more freedom, but other than that fine :-)
[22:30] <d3jake> hehe
[22:30] <kalib> Hi people. Just updated my Kubuntu and now flash is not working. Tried youtbe but it says I have to update my flash plugin. On my kubuntu update I saw that flash was on the list of packages to be updated.
[22:31] <illio> d3jake, people like Martin Fowler and such attend GotoCon each year (formerly called JAOO) .. and I attend each year, along with a ton of other university B.Sc., M.Sc. and Ph.D. students .. + Google developers you can talk to and get drunk with ;-)
[22:31] <illio> Like the entire team responsible for creating V8 - the thing that makes Chrome awesome.
[22:31] <d3jake> hehe
[22:31] <d3jake> We shall see.
[22:32] <illio> d3jake, Crew information: http://gotocon.com/aarhus-2011/crew  :-) .. a lot of international students are also there each year.. so plenty of networking opportunities.
[22:33] <illio> d3jake, well anyway.. gotta go a bit. Good luck with your Kubuntu issue.. afk
[22:33] <d3jake> illio: Thanks
[22:34] <Guest32205> hi were are located bin from java runtime?
[22:37] <kalib> Hi people. Just updated my Kubuntu and now flash is not working. Tried youtbe but it says I have to update my flash plugin. On my kubuntu update I saw that flash was on the list of packages to be updated.
[22:40] <Guest32205> hi anyone uses kde 4.6?
[22:41] <d3jake> !es
[22:52] <u19809> hi all, I need to upgrade from karmic to lucid without a GUI (i.e. using a tty console) what is the best way to do this ?
[22:59] <CrazySpai> Good day :D
[23:00] <CrazySpai> So, I just installed Kubuntu and I have no touchpad (mouse) support. Is there a seperate package I need to install?
[23:07] <CrazySpai> Any ideas?
[23:07] <CrazySpai> Fixed it.
[23:13] <Simisu> hello everyone, i'm currently downloading kubuntu (after failing to install ubuntu due to several different crashes...) i will be installing it on an external usb HDD with a 45gig ext4 partition and a 3gig swap partition... does this sound ok or should the partitions be using ext3 for kubuntu (or it makes no difference)  thanks in advance
[23:32] <et_> hey guys i need some help my laptop has more then one sound driver installed how do i uninstall all the ones except for the one that works?
[23:35] <ecinx3> how do i fix the opacity? I used to have that option on the top left of the apps
[23:36] <ecinx3> also what does that little circle with that dot on the top left of an application do?
[23:42] <ecinx3> nm i fixed it, i forgot where but it said enable desktop effects.. don't know how it got shut off