[01:53] hey joe [01:53] I love all those "testing" things :P [01:54] Maybe someone with appropriate powers could add a link to the Lubuntu Alpha2 ISO to the /topic of this channel? [01:55] hey bio [01:55] Both the direct link AND the torrent :D [01:56] jmarsden, you couple days ago said that i'm playing with fire if I use proposed and you're offering alpha2 which has some installation issues for people ;) [01:56] bioterror: For downloading and testing, not for production use on a workstation -- huge difference :) [01:57] bioterror: The point is that "where is the Alpha2 ISO" is becoming a frequently asked question, so a adding a link seems helpful to me. [01:57] It is more of a news item (Alpha2 was released, here it is) than a recommendation for real world use. [01:58] jmarsden, just pip has asked ;) [01:58] Really? Wasn't someone asking on the mailing list, or in -offtopic, or somewhere, recently? [02:01] I've seen two requests if I'm not mistaken [02:02] pip and you ;) [02:04] Well, #lubuntu is not an especially active channel... does two requests constitute a FAQ? :) :) [02:04] I concider not [02:04] Well....does that change the matter? [02:05] and my 2cents is that if someone who is capable of running and using alpha, he is also capable to find it out too [02:05] 2 people = 2 people right? :P [02:05] I dont want to make anyone to think "oh here's alpha release, let's go for it!" [02:06] and then screen is full of apport and he doesnt know what to do [02:06] If he found it here....he'll know where to go for help right? ;) [02:13] possible [06:06] good morning [06:11] does any of you have moved a linux distro from one partition to another [06:11] ? [06:21] I rather backup ~/ and do a installation than start playing [06:23] I had some malfunctions at first boot ... but now everything is OK [06:24] the thing I'm going to do [06:24] is to delete my XP as just copy Lubuntu over it [06:25] and I want to skip those malfunctions [06:26] is there a way to do such a thing [06:36] you can boot livecd, run gparted, remove windows partition and resize lubuntu partition [06:37] yep, but there are 2 separate phisical drives [06:38] here is it (I'll draw now) : [06:39] hd0 [ 10G WinXP ntfs][30G apps ntfs][30G files fat32] [06:40] fat32 :G [06:40] hd1 [38G ext4 Lubuntu][1G swap] [06:40] yes [06:41] why not ? [06:41] fat16 supports only to 8G [06:41] 32 has no limit [06:43] whatever .... my idea is to delete both ntfs and replace them with "ext"-ed partition + swap [06:44] and to try to copy/move the tux at that place [06:45] you can start from 4GB filesize limit, nothing even close to journaling, and was that [06:45] just a moment [06:46] fat32 has a bigger file allocation units than fo example ntfs [06:47] negthorn, why not just make a new installation over XP, mount your old linux installation, move stuff from old ~/ to new ~/ [06:48] Oh! sHELL ... [06:48] true ! ... [06:49] you're welcome [06:49] Now I'm realizing that all apps [06:50] partition limit for FAT32 is 137GB [06:50] are commonly installed in ~ [06:50] software is installed in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin usually in linux [06:50] ha! I didn't know it [06:51] and ....that is I want to keep [06:51] may I 'cp' them too ? [06:52] and how are you going to update them [06:52] and all the libraries they require [06:52] IDK .. [06:52] mmmhm ... [06:52] why not just apt-get install [06:53] takes like 20mins [06:53] and since you dont have exact same size disks, you cant dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sda [06:54] you're right, but I like experimets (exept the case I'm here) [06:54] aha ... [06:55] it means - "don't try this at home (/home) " [06:56] if I were you, I would buy a bigger disk than 70GB [06:56] and use it [06:58] this machine is 7 y.o. the only up I've made is to put this 70G HDD and 256MB RAM (total 512) [06:59] okay [06:59] trash that XP, make some more space in other drive so that you can get rid of FAT32 [07:00] 'cause there are all my files [07:00] (personaly created) [07:00] for anything else - I don't care [07:02] and 'cause Iknow that fat is visible form all normal distros - I made this space "fat" [07:02] seems like you havent heard of NTFS-3G [07:02] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS-3G [07:05] hah! thanks for the info but I've never before used Linux seriously ... mean - installsome. try it, then remove ... and when I decide - Install something else ... [07:09] I was looking for "my" distro .. [07:11] there is nothing more beautyful than to Install XP [07:11] twice a week [07:12] in a period of a half year [07:14] whatever ... I'll not experiment with copying ... [07:14] thanks for everything [07:14] must go [11:23] hello world [11:24] after installin lubuntu 10.10 nad upgrade it i lost my windows entry in the grub menu [11:27] kosaidpo-|, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ [11:27] bioterror: okies tnx [11:36] bioterror: i aleady tied that last night [11:36] n still not wokin [11:37] and is there somekind of error message [11:37] when i launch os-prober it return the windows but not when i do update grub [11:38] bioterror: no no errors eturned at all :P [11:39] bioterror: http://pastebin.com/5E2fNjxP [11:41] any idea why it doesnt work bioterror [11:43] this doesnt make sense [11:44] bioterror: btw to let you kno this hapaned jst after th upgrade [11:44] after the upgrade [11:44] I'll reboot [11:46] ill do too mybe the wnidowns enty decide to show up who knows :D [11:48] haha [11:49] 10.10 doesnt have os-prober, so it's not run on installation [11:49] I had to install and run it, works like a charm [11:51] Timo, cant you put your password for server password? [11:51] kosaidpo-|, did you get it? [11:51] bioterror: noo :P [11:51] bioterror: iread somewhere on the web that ican add manuley that entry can you pls link me to some ressource [11:52] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/566274/ [11:52] mine [11:52] ~% sudo blkid .:13:52:30 on 11-02-12:. [11:52] [sudo] password for sad157: [11:52] /dev/sda1: LABEL="Windows" UUID="3EE0E0DEE0E09D81" TYPE="ntfs" [11:53] replace that UUID in that with your own [11:54] bioterror: and wht file shud i edit to add the entry [11:54] guess [11:55] memu.list or sumthin [11:55] in the boot/grub dir right ? [11:55] menu.list is for legacy grub [11:55] grub.cfg and /boot/grub/ [11:55] you got it right! ;D [11:55] okies thnx bioterror [11:56] but how can i get my uid ?? [11:57] I gave you command 5 mins ago [11:57] got it [12:01] bioterror: i added the windows pat in the end of the file [12:04] good [12:04] then reboot [12:04] dont run update-grub [12:04] ahh okies [12:04] i was abt to ask [12:21] bioterror: it doesnt wok [12:21] :P [12:21] kosaidpo-|, did you get that menu entry? [12:21] noo [12:21] okey [12:22] then update-grub [12:22] and reboot [12:22] thees no risque runin it ?? [12:22] why would be [12:22] Are there any printer problems specific to lubuntu? === lksdjfgl is now known as MrOne [12:23] bioterror: im jst womdein and run it and still doesnt appear after updatin [12:23] MrOne, what kind of problems? [12:23] kosaidpo-|, run update-grub [12:23] I have a printer and it shows up as if drivers have been found but then when I print a test page [12:24] it is added to the print list [12:24] bioterror: did it and still no succes with that windows entry [12:24] then vanishes without a page printing [12:24] MrOne, related to GRUB [12:24] asdasdasd [12:24] CUPS [12:24] really? [12:24] what can I do? [12:24] check launchpad with your printer? [12:26] kosaidpo-|, you have not booted after running update-grub [12:26] noo [12:26] i jst read hee thati shud add custom entry to this ect/grub.d/40_custom [12:26] why [12:26] ill try it first : ] [12:26] that's where I have my entry [12:26] not in there [12:27] why didnt eboot yet ?? or why i ll add it [12:27] add that windows menu entry after memtest 86 [12:27] run update-grub [12:27] and reboot [12:27] well now i added the entry to /boot/grub/grub.cfg [12:27] ok [12:28] and you've double checked the uuid? [12:28] it does match? [12:30] bioterror: Is there nothing I could have messed up at my end? [12:31] MrOne, I dont think so [12:31] m checkin now bioterrorq [12:31] ill let u kno : ]thnaks [12:42] bioterror: can i re-make an grub.cfg ?? [12:42] what [12:43] make .cfg.bak and run os-prober and update-grub [12:43] i guess i messed up my grub.cfg [12:43] ok [12:43] how can you mess it up [12:44] if you just add few lines below memtest [12:44] which I gave you on a silver platter [12:45] cus i mistakes things i guess [12:45] i copied he wrong portion [12:46] but laters [12:46] I'm off, going out [12:46] to catch some fresh air [12:46] okies have fun [12:46] peace out [12:46] n tnx [12:46] been helping people whole morning n day :D [12:48] Good going bioterror :D [12:48] We love people like you around :D [13:14] hello every1 [13:15] need help ^^ just installed Lubuntu this morning and failed to set Teamspeak Soundsettings... anybody there to help me out? I am returning to linux after working with MS because my system doesnt work properly [13:16] TeamSpeak? That's like Mumble right? [13:17] ähm... havent any clue what mumble is *laugh* [13:17] teamspeak is a voip client [13:17] Me for TeamSpeak....but TeamSpeak is for having audio conversation during gaming etc.? [13:17] richt [13:17] right [13:18] Well...Mumble does the same O:-) [13:18] am i able to access a teamspeak server with mumble? [13:19] That...I don't know :) [13:19] already asking google ;) [13:19] :D [13:19] I love those n00bs that can do their own google searches :D [13:20] noobs are greenhorns right? [13:20] sorry my english isnt that good :/ [13:21] Yeah, they are...(I'm still a n00b thou O:-)) [13:22] Where are you from NRWlion? [13:22] Good old Germany [13:22] Hai neighbor :) I'm from Holland :D [13:22] goede middag [13:22] Dankuwel :D [13:23] Insgelijk [13:23] im able to speak it but writing and reading are horrible ^^ so if you dont mind, i keep on english ;) [13:24] As this is an English channel I was about to say it :) [13:24] ive been to holland for nearly half of my life to spend my vacations there [13:26] Alright....so our conception that German like our beaches is pretty spot on :) [13:27] well always went to a little camping spot called Hylpen [13:27] need to leave for the moment to get lunch with family [13:28] but as i do like lubuntu more and more, i will return after this weekend to maybe help with german translations ,) === NRWlion is now known as NRWlion|LUNCH [13:51] hi [13:51] Hai leszek :) [13:55] re [13:55] bin gone for the weekend [13:55] have a nice1 every1 === leszek_ is now known as leszek [14:17] hello guys i cant make it to wok [14:18] i ve tried to add an entry to my grub list manuelly but no succes [14:19] i've added this to my /etc/grub.d/40_custom but it doesnt wok when i do update-grub [14:44] hello again [14:44] phillw: the way u showed didnt work too :P [14:46] kosaidpo-|: I'm stuck. I do not dual boot. if you are patient on here - or ask on the mailing list one of those who dual boot will help you. [14:46] phillw: sure im still here and thanks :D [15:04] kosaidpo-|: i have three Os working including Lubuntu 11.04 alpha. Can u summarize your problem to me? i may help. [15:05] wolfpack: hii : ] [15:05] kosaidpo-|: Hi [15:05] well after a lubuuntu upgrade i lost my windows entry in grub [15:05] and i kind of tried all ways ic ud find in the net [15:06] the os-prober one n added the portion code to the 40_custom file but doesnt work idk wht im doin wing when i did those ways [15:06] :P [15:08] Cann u paste the output of sudo fdisk -l [15:08] paste it in pastebin [15:10] kosaidpo-|: ^ [15:11] wolfpack: okies [15:12] http://pastebin.com/vy5bFmrv wolfpack [15:12] here you go dude [15:13] wolfpack: soy thats blkid im sorry [15:14] kosaidpo-|: no problem :) [15:14] wolfpack: here you go http://pastebin.com/3zBHkSmd im srry [15:16] Also paste output of update-grub [15:18] wolfpack: u got me ? [15:18] kosaidpo-|: Which is other linux distro u have installed [15:18] ? [15:19] jst lubuntu n windows thats all [15:19] Your partition table is showing 2 linux distro [15:21] uhmm :P well i have only dual boot tho [15:21] ahh i have the home sperated [15:22] uhm i jst noticed too thats weird [15:23] the extended one its /home and sda6 its the / but the sda7 idk it :P [15:24] You can try this . It has worked lot of time for me : sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/sda5 /dev/sda [15:25] kosaidpo-|: replace sda5 with your linux partition [15:25] oh sooru I copied wrong commnad [15:25] sorry * [15:26] kosaidpo-|: Do not use the above command [15:26] sda5 its the swap [15:26] okies im not [15:28] wolfpack: wht cmmd wud i use / [15:28] ? [15:32] kosaidpo-|: sudo grub-install /dev/sda [15:32] i use this one ? [15:33] kosaidpo-|: Yes, You can try this as it worked for me once :) [15:33] wolfpack: well done ; ] [15:33] and now wolfpack [15:34] kosaidpo-|: type sudo update-grub [15:35] done but still cannnot see the windows entry btw i got this [15:35] http://pastebin.com/f5E2ixKa [15:36] kosaidpo-|: It hasd worked for me [15:38] :P it didnt for me [16:22] so Lubuntu 10.10 is on this month's Linux Format cover disc - sweeeeeeeeeeeet [16:27] nice [16:35] what a shame that the default installation is far from complete :( [16:46] hi [16:46] apache2 installed here but when running localhost it says no permisson to access /index.php [16:46] i deleted the index.html which was in there before tho [16:47] i tried to set chmod for the whole www folder to 755 and 777 but neither works [16:48] esing: make sure its owned by root or www-data im not sure if not ucan install lampp via tasksel [16:50] public_html and root www are 755 [16:55] ????????????????????ß [16:55] what do you mean "owned by root" or owned by www-data? [16:55] www-data [16:56] kosaidpo-|: Did you had a fresh installtion of lubuntu and then tried to upgrade its packages ? [16:56] wolfpack: yesh [16:56] well i put www to 755 [16:56] then even to 777 [16:56] but nothing happens [16:57] kosaidpo-|: Then I think during installtion you have specified incorrect boot point. [16:57] yeh i guess so cus i have an extended partion in it two partition and now im wondein how ican fix it [16:59] kosaidpo-|: Well I did the same thing by mounting boot point at my other linux distro partition. I had to reinstall the lubuntu :( [17:00] kosaidpo-|: Do you have any important data on lubuntu ? [17:00] :P thats the hard part and tnx tho [17:06] esing: I do tire of this... read and use http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=119 I held a classroom a while back, the information on the internet that you will have used is just wrong. [17:07] It really does annoy me that people have incorrect instructions up on sites. [17:09] mhm [17:09] I even tried to add the www directory to apach2.conf but it still doesnt work [17:09] imho a program should work after installation without configuration ^^ [17:11] esing: if you use tasksel, it will 'work out of the box', that is what tasksel is there for. [17:31] gosh [17:31] taskel doesnt exist on my os [17:34] "taskel command not found" [17:35] phillw !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [17:35] esing: it's "tasksel" [17:36] yes [17:36] it doesnt work [17:36] in terminal i wrote it correct wise [17:36] esing: sudo tasksel [17:36] yes [17:36] i did tihs [17:36] phillw you use ubuntu 9.1 and not lubuntu? [17:37] esing: those notes were made via lubuntu! [17:38] well then this is weird [17:38] maybe this is a big bug in here [17:38] I've been asked to make a new new set for ubuntu standard version. [17:38] -new [17:39] HMMM [17:45] ive got to go off [17:45] head is burning [17:45] thx tho [17:53] anyone know how to bring up the menu bar in lxterminal? alternately, how to change lxterminal fonts? [18:12] anyone know how to bring up the menu bar in lxterminal? alternately, how to change lxterminal fonts? [18:13] right click the terminal [18:13] and choose preferences [18:13] then display tab [18:13] and there's a checkbox [18:13] I believe it's the middle one [18:14] that's done it! TYVM! [18:14] np [18:14] that was fast [18:14] NEXT! [18:14] hahah :) [18:30] hello [18:31] BR41N1: hi [18:31] ^^ [18:32] To answer to somebody, do you simply type the name and add ":" or do you click somewhere? [18:34] BR41N1: type few letter and press tab [18:34] wolfpack, oh, ok! Thanks a lot. (it gives me a coma though) [18:35] wolfpack: I changed it. Perfect [18:35] I prefer nick, [18:36] bioterror: I prefer : =P [18:36] me too :P [18:36] I just installed Lubuntu and did an update. I need to reboot. brb