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Adys | is there a package for libdrm-2.4.24? | 02:54 |
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durt | hey folks, any pointers to why I don't have 3d running anymore? (i915). And I do believe 'intel' is running ok from Xorg.0.log | 02:54 |
Adys | durt: see link in /topic, it's a transition phase wrt xorg atm, lots of issues with 3d | 02:58 |
durt | Adys, I see...explains what I'm seeing today, but I lost compiz quite some time ago... oh well. | 03:00 |
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gpc | !info libdrm2 | 03:27 |
ubottu | libdrm2 (source: libdrm): Userspace interface to kernel DRM services -- runtime. In component main, is required. Version 2.4.23-1ubuntu3 (natty), package size 22 kB, installed size 112 kB | 03:27 |
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Adys | Is the package plymouth-x11 still needed? | 03:37 |
Adys | i see it's not marked as supported anymore | 03:37 |
hv | is the window placement in the new compiz slightly screwed? the shadow of the windows seems to be treated like its border. | 03:47 |
hv | or perhaps there is some configuration baggage from compiz 0.8 that is causing it? | 03:48 |
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twager | !nvidia | 07:25 |
ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | The ATI and nVidia binary drivers may not be currently installable at the moment | 07:25 |
rxd | what's with with applications menu it disappears | 07:41 |
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Lynoure | hello. | 10:25 |
Lynoure | My natty cannot find mpeg etc codecs, what repo / package are they from? | 10:26 |
Lynoure | It proposes to install them and then does not find them | 10:26 |
bazhang | ubuntu-restricted-extras | 10:26 |
bazhang | !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | 10:26 |
ubottu | ubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages for Ubuntu. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 43 (natty), package size 3 kB, installed size 36 kB | 10:26 |
Lynoure | Yup, there we go. Thanks | 10:28 |
bazhang | welcome | 10:28 |
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kklimonda | hey, did the nvidia power support sheduled for 2.6.38? | 11:57 |
kklimonda | is* | 11:57 |
kklimonda | I shall not change the sentence in the middle | 11:58 |
om26er | where can I find unity-2d developers? is there an IRC ? | 12:02 |
coz_ | om26er, #ayanta I believe | 12:02 |
coz_ | wrong spelling | 12:03 |
coz_ | hold on | 12:03 |
coz_ | om26er, #ayatana | 12:03 |
coz_ | om26er, is there an issue you need to dicuss? | 12:04 |
coz_ | discuss | 12:04 |
om26er | hmm -2d developers are there too ? | 12:04 |
om26er | na | 12:04 |
om26er | no issue just wanted to see the discussions and stuff, have not seen em in #ayatana | 12:04 |
coz_ | om26er, that would be the place then | 12:04 |
om26er | #ubuntu-arm | 12:05 |
om26er | oops | 12:05 |
coz_ | :) | 12:05 |
coz_ | mm hey guys. I did notice this "fake" gnome panel across the secondary monitor ,, a bit alarming at first...although I only did partial update because of the nvidia issue | 12:06 |
coz_ | I am also noticing...after logging in ..as things are starting up...the unity /gnome panel and the it being quickly overlayed by the classic gnome panel... also could be as a result of partial updates | 12:07 |
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root_ | hello after I've installed updates via update manager ubuntu is not loading anymore | 14:30 |
penguin42 | how far does it get? | 14:31 |
root_ | also i have installed nvidia drivers, last message in console says starting CUPS [OK] I'm writing from tty2 | 14:32 |
penguin42 | ok, lets go back a step - what exactly did you do between it working and it stopping working? | 14:33 |
root_ | run update manager installed updates | 14:33 |
root_ | then installed nvidia driver and rebooted | 14:33 |
penguin42 | ok, so it's booted just X isn't starting? | 14:33 |
root_ | yes | 14:34 |
penguin42 | what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log have to say? | 14:34 |
root_ | NOUVEAU (0) : Closed GPU channel 2 | 14:35 |
root_ | i've tried nvidia-xconfig and startx | 14:35 |
root_ | but it says that there is no /usr/bin/X | 14:35 |
penguin42 | I don't know much about the nvidia drivers; can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? | 14:36 |
penguin42 | there is a command line program called pastebiniit which should be able to do it for you | 14:37 |
root_ | how to do that from console is there any wgetpaste like prog? | 14:37 |
root_ | oh thanks | 14:37 |
root_ | paste.ubuntu.com/566318 | 14:40 |
root_ | how i can try to manually start xorg? restarting gdm doesn't makes sence | 14:41 |
penguin42 | root_: OK, reading that log, it couldn't find the closed source nvidia module, and is trying nouveau | 14:42 |
root_ | how to fix that? | 14:42 |
penguin42 | root_: Not sure, I don't know the nvidia stuff (I use Intel and ATI) startx should work for trying X | 14:43 |
penguin42 | root_: I think you might try jockey-text to install the Nvidia driver | 14:43 |
kklimonda | did nvidia release a working driver for new X | 14:44 |
kklimonda | ? | 14:44 |
root_ | what driver is used by default? | 14:47 |
root_ | nouveau? | 14:47 |
penguin42 | root_: Yeh, it looks like it tries the closed source one, then nouveau, thenthe 2d nv then ood old fashoned fb | 14:47 |
root_ | if i will uninstall that closed source nvidia driver that shall help? | 14:49 |
penguin42 | root_: I'd try to get the basics working without that first | 14:49 |
penguin42 | root_: How did you install it? | 14:50 |
root_ | with additional drivers gui | 14:50 |
penguin42 | ok | 14:50 |
root_ | as i understand i shall remove that nvidia-current package and generated xorg.conf right? | 14:52 |
penguin42 | I think I'd use jockey-text to remove it | 14:52 |
root_ | sorry what is jockey-text? | 14:53 |
root_ | ah got it :) | 14:53 |
penguin42 | root_: The 'additional driver' gui is a front end to jockey | 14:54 |
root_ | it just searches drivers and returns nothing | 14:54 |
penguin42 | ok, then as you say, nuke the package | 14:54 |
root_ | no man page too | 14:54 |
penguin42 | and the xorg.conf | 14:54 |
root_ | i used "purge" option | 14:55 |
root_ | that's right? | 14:55 |
penguin42 | yeh | 14:55 |
root_ | penguin42: thank you very much for help, gonna reboot | 14:55 |
penguin42 | thank me when it works! | 14:55 |
root_ | removing nvidia-current and xorg.conf doesn't helped | 15:01 |
root_ | why on startx it says /usr/bin/X not found? | 15:01 |
root_ | and now console has higher resolution and can't parse cyrillic chars | 15:02 |
penguin42 | root_: Do you have the xserver-xorg package installed? | 15:04 |
root_ | it says no | 15:04 |
root_ | how to search with apt? | 15:05 |
Daekdroom | sudo apt-cache search | 15:05 |
root_ | thanks | 15:05 |
penguin42 | not having xserver-xorg installed is odd | 15:05 |
root_ | xserver-xorg is in list when i try apt-cache search xserver-xorg --installed | 15:09 |
root_ | ah it's in /usr/bin/X11/startx | 15:10 |
kklimonda | root_: apt-cache search --installed doesn't mean it's installed | 15:10 |
kklimonda | see what apt-cache policy --installed | 15:11 |
kklimonda | argh | 15:11 |
kklimonda | what apt-cache policy xserver-xorg returns | 15:11 |
root_ | 1:7.6~3ubuntu4 natty/main | 15:12 |
root_ | damn can't see letters | 15:13 |
root_ | smthing with codepage | 15:13 |
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root_ | guys i'm sorry but could u tell what paste.ubuntu.com/566335 says about X server? | 15:17 |
penguin42 | root_: Could not start command /usr/bin/X -br -verbose | 15:19 |
kklimonda | root_: what does ls -l /usr/bin/X return? | 15:19 |
kklimonda | if you don't have this file then you don't have xserver-xorg properly installed. | 15:20 |
penguin42 | root_: What happens if you do apt-get install xserver-xorg | 15:22 |
root_ | kklimonda: no such file or dir | 15:26 |
root_ | damn i can't read output at all | 15:26 |
kklimonda | launch bash with LC_ALL=C | 15:27 |
kklimonda | LC_ALL=C bash | 15:27 |
kklimonda | (which won't help, as I don't know which output you can't read) | 15:27 |
root_ | wow | 15:28 |
root_ | apt-cache says it's not installed | 15:28 |
root_ | apt-get install xserver-xorg shows list of packages that would be installed | 15:29 |
root_ | how that happend? I've got gnome fully installed and working, could nvidia-driver uninstalled xserver? | 15:30 |
Daekdroom | Given that nvidia driver is currently broken, it's possible | 15:30 |
penguin42 | root_: Might be best to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop just to make sure you have the full set of normal stuff | 15:32 |
root_ | X started woohoo | 15:33 |
root_ | thank you much for help guys | 15:34 |
penguin42 | no prob | 15:34 |
root_ | emm maybe that sounds weird but i uninstalled ubuntu-desktop as dep of indicator-applet, could be the reason of missing xorg server? :D | 15:36 |
penguin42 | no, shouldn't take out xserver-xorg | 15:38 |
root_ | ok thanks | 15:40 |
ImGangsta | !ops | 15:57 |
ubottu | Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, bilalakhtar, Jordan_U, or rww! | 15:57 |
tsimpson | fail | 15:58 |
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vish | tsimpson: goosh! he is such a bother.. atleast the tiniest of trolls have something to troll about :/ | 16:53 |
vish | maybe ops should just ignore his "!o-ps" | 16:54 |
Daekdroom | vish, I don't think that a flashing window is easy to ignore. | 16:54 |
Daekdroom | I recall this person that used !ops three times just to realize what it did, and then got kicked. | 16:55 |
vish | Daekdroom: nah, he knows what he is doing. he has bee at it atleast twice in the past couple of weeks | 16:56 |
vish | been* | 16:56 |
tsimpson | they hit multiple channels multiple times, I don't think we should ignore that | 16:56 |
vish | it is totally redundant to just keep pinging ops, when you have nothing to troll about :/ | 16:56 |
vish | tsimpson: it seems it is his fun to just get banned.. so banning him only entices him more :) | 16:57 |
tsimpson | maybe, but not banning him allows him to constantly disrupt channels | 16:59 |
vish | maybe, yea.. | 17:00 |
penguin42 | change the bot to do something more interesting for him? | 17:01 |
BUGabundo | ohay | 17:01 |
vish | bugabuga! ;) | 17:02 |
BUGabundo | VISSSSHHHHH | 17:02 |
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pr0ph3t | anyone have problems with the microphone using empathy/telepathy over msn conversations? | 18:01 |
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Goog_Josh1 | can anybody help me to install and run kylix 3 on my ubuntu 1010 | 18:17 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1010 in drivel (Ubuntu) "out-of-date" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1010 | 18:18 |
Ibn_Ali_al-Turki | anyone having microphone issues with Natty? | 18:21 |
Ibn_Ali_al-Turki | my laptop mic worked fine in maverick, but doesn't work in natty | 18:21 |
nailora | i have some problems that the selected theme is not applied (except for window borders). any ideas? | 18:26 |
nailora | http://nailor.devzero.de/oneshot/2011-02-12/Screenshot.png/8efd168320b79a12/Screenshot.png | 18:27 |
coz_ | nailora, I have had this issue in the past did you restart x and try again | 18:45 |
Ibn_Ali_al-Turki | anyone having microphone issues with Natty? | 18:50 |
Ibn_Ali_al-Turki | my laptop mic worked fine in maverick, but doesn't work in natty | 18:50 |
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Pici | Can someone confirm a gnome-terminal issue before I report a bug? | 19:43 |
penguin42 | what is it? | 19:43 |
Pici | My g-t profile has the menubar off by default, but when I open g-t, its on, and the setting is unchecked in the menu itself. I need to toggle the checkbox twice before it will turn the menubar off. | 19:43 |
penguin42 | well, for me if I turn it off in the profile and then open a new terminal the menubar is off | 19:46 |
Pici | Hm. | 19:46 |
Daekdroom | If I turn it off in the profile and open a new terminal, it's on :( | 19:46 |
Daekdroom | Classic Gnome, btw. | 19:46 |
Pici | me too. Okay. | 19:47 |
Pici | oh, thats annoying too. I just opened a new terminal, and the menu bar showed up there, and on my old terminal that I was using before. | 19:47 |
nekoCAT | I just did a fresh install of Xubuntu daily. First, its nice that the gtk resize handle on the desktop is gone. | 19:57 |
nekoCAT | The multiple menu entries are gone as well. | 19:57 |
Daekdroom | nekoCAT, The thing on the bottom right of every window? | 19:57 |
Pici | bug #717859 logged | 19:57 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 717859 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) "gnome-terminal "Show Menubar" setting not working properly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/717859 | 19:57 |
nekoCAT | No, there was a bug with the resize handle showing up on the corner of the desktop. | 19:57 |
nekoCAT | That was fixed and I thank the developers for that. | 19:58 |
Daekdroom | Oh. | 19:59 |
Daekdroom | I recall it showing up in the gnome panel | 19:59 |
nekoCAT | In this particular Xubuntu daily build, some of the shortcuts in the bottom panel are broken. | 19:59 |
nekoCAT | The Firefox/Thunderbird launchers are just empty placeholders. | 20:02 |
charlie-tca | report a bug for that against xfce4-panel | 20:03 |
nekoCAT | charlie-tca: Okay, can do. | 20:03 |
nekoCAT | jockey shows up in the systray without an icon. Is this a known problem? | 20:06 |
Ibn_Ali_al-Turki | anyone having microphone issues with Natty? | 20:07 |
Ibn_Ali_al-Turki | my laptop mic worked fine in maverick, but doesn't work in natty | 20:07 |
charlie-tca | yeah, sort of. Jockey has some issues since stuff is still broken | 20:07 |
nekoCAT | Quick question, is it safe to install the nvidia drivers yet? Has anyone tried? | 20:08 |
charlie-tca | they are broken yet, as far as I know | 20:09 |
nekoCAT | Thank you. I will hold off on that then. | 20:09 |
nekoCAT | I must be off. I will report the panel icon bug in launchpad later today. | 20:10 |
* penguin42 notes that xorg-edgers is broken on Radeon for me on Natty as of an update sometime in the last week | 20:11 | |
robin0800 | penguin42, define broken please? | 20:12 |
penguin42 | robin0800: gdm won't render the login box properly - didn't get any further; logs full of 'r600_packet3_check:1330 invalid cmd stream 408' | 20:12 |
penguin42 | sorry, kdm | 20:13 |
penguin42 | sorry^2, gdm! | 20:13 |
robin0800 | penguin42, does r600 use gallium driver? | 20:13 |
penguin42 | robin0800: I don't know | 20:14 |
robin0800 | penguin42, do glxinfo will tell you | 20:14 |
Daekdroom | r600 does not use gallium by default. | 20:15 |
Daekdroom | (not even xorg-edgers) | 20:15 |
penguin42 | robin0800: I've dropped back to the standard natty packages and I don't see any sign of the word 'gallium' in glxinfo output | 20:15 |
penguin42 | what is Gallium? | 20:15 |
penguin42 | the card is an HD4350 rv710 | 20:15 |
Daekdroom | Gallium is some replacement for classic Mesa. | 20:16 |
Daekdroom | r300 driver uses gallium by default already. Faster, better, smaller code. | 20:16 |
Daekdroom | The mesa driver that uses gallium is called r300g. The one that uses classic mesa code is called r300 or r300c | 20:16 |
penguin42 | ah ok | 20:16 |
robin0800 | Daekdroom, only up to 500 I guess and has a tearing issue with compiz | 20:17 |
Daekdroom | robin0800, r300 driver also handles r400 and r500 cards ;) | 20:17 |
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robin0800 | Daekdroom, yes but it still needs some work I think | 20:18 |
Daekdroom | robin0800, nah. r300g is way better than r300c at this point. r600c, on the other hand, is more stable than r600g, however slower | 20:19 |
robin0800 | Daekdroom, well I've got tearing in compiz with it | 20:20 |
penguin42 | oh dear - that's a good crash - it's stuck playing the last ~3 seconds of audio | 20:27 |
hellyeah | ubuntu 11.10 exist ? | 20:28 |
penguin42 | repeatedly, in a loop saying 'move the bodies, No Doctor' | 20:28 |
Pici | Which Doctor? | 20:30 |
penguin42 | Ducky | 20:30 |
Pici | Oh that show. | 20:31 |
penguin42 | NCIS | 20:31 |
Pici | Yeah, that show/. | 20:31 |
penguin42 | is not having a good day for video related issues | 20:32 |
arand | hellyeah: no, all current development is happening on 11.04 | 20:41 |
Omega | "Preferred Applications" isn't detecting Opera as a browser | 20:43 |
Omega | so I can't seem to set it as my default browser | 20:44 |
penguin42 | also seems to be kicing a few radeon_cs_ioctl *ERROR* Failed to parse relocation -35! crashes | 20:45 |
ImGangsta | !ops | 20:48 |
ImGangsta | im gangsta | 20:48 |
ImGangsta | !ops | 20:48 |
raknorak | hi there | 20:53 |
raknorak | it's funny that the bug reporting tool, is unstable and crash by collecting details for a bug report :D | 20:53 |
penguin42 | ah that's not good - which one - KDE or gnome? | 20:58 |
raknorak | gnome | 20:59 |
penguin42 | how did it crash? | 20:59 |
raknorak | first did compiz crash, and after pressing send report the app itself crashing | 21:00 |
raknorak | compiz crashes after clicking the ubuntu logo und the top left | 21:01 |
raknorak | *on | 21:01 |
penguin42 | out of interest which graphics card? | 21:02 |
Ibn_Ali_al-Turki | anyone having microphone issues with Natty? | 21:02 |
Ibn_Ali_al-Turki | my laptop mic worked fine in maverick, but doesn't work in natty | 21:03 |
Ibn_Ali_al-Turki | raknorak | 21:03 |
Ibn_Ali_al-Turki | lol | 21:03 |
Ibn_Ali_al-Turki | same thing happens to me | 21:03 |
Ibn_Ali_al-Turki | i am using an asus laptop with intel graphics | 21:03 |
Ibn_Ali_al-Turki | it crashes, and while i attempt to bug report i get like crash after crash and the screen fills up with boxes lol | 21:03 |
raknorak | it's a macbook 2.1 with intel gma950 | 21:05 |
raknorak | and sometimes the window decoration disappears | 21:06 |
raknorak | the application folder in unity 3d, is not scrollable with the touchpad (any other app works fine with that) und it's kinda laggy with scrolling with the scrollbar itself | 21:07 |
penguin42 | X does seem very flaky at the moment | 21:08 |
raknorak | and it would be nice, that the toolbar on the left would not hide if a window comes to the border | 21:09 |
raknorak | maybe as an option | 21:09 |
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Guest34735 | the interface crashs if a flash video plays and banshee will start | 21:41 |
penguin42 | I don't seem to get anything logged to /var/log/messages any more - is everyone else seeing that? | 21:46 |
Daekdroom | cat /var/log/messages doesn't display anything in here | 21:46 |
penguin42 | bug or feature? | 21:47 |
Daekdroom | Who knows? *dun dun dun dun* | 21:48 |
Ibn_Ali_al-Turki | will natty have gnome 3.0? | 22:03 |
Daekdroom | Ibn_Ali_al-Turki, Yes, but its default desktop interface will be Unity instead of Gnome Shell | 22:03 |
penguin42 | Daekdroom: Feature - found the changelog comment | 22:04 |
Ibn_Ali_al-Turki | Daekdroom thanks, i know that...but i was wondering if the classic desktop will be 3.0, or remain as 2.30 | 22:04 |
Daekdroom | Ibn_Ali_al-Turki, Classic Desktop will be 2.32, because 3.0 is Gnome Shell already, and that is not "Classic Desktop" | 22:04 |
Daekdroom | Ibn_Ali_al-Turki, but I'd expect them to compile everything to GTK+3 if it's possible. | 22:05 |
Ibn_Ali_al-Turki | thanks | 22:05 |
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lithpr | hi- i've tried to add the kubuntu backports repo, but am getting this error: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backportsv/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found | 23:25 |
Daekdroom | lithpr, why are you using a maverick PPA on a natty install anyway? | 23:26 |
lithpr | i'm trying to get the natty updates into maverick | 23:26 |
Daekdroom | lithpr, this is not exactly the channel for that | 23:26 |
Daekdroom | lithpr, but what happens is: the link is wrong | 23:27 |
lithpr | hmmm | 23:27 |
Daekdroom | lithpr, there's a "backportsv" there. It's only backports | 23:27 |
lithpr | Daekdroom: okay, thank you. it is what got added with "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports" | 23:27 |
lithpr | weird. thank you Daekdroom, i will try changing that url | 23:28 |
nekoCAT | I would just like to extend my support for the integration of gmusicbrowser in xubuntu. | 23:44 |
charlie-tca | Thanks | 23:47 |
charlie-tca | it is nice, isn't it? | 23:47 |
nekoCAT | charlie-tca: It is, and it recognizes and sorts the tags better than other music players I have tried. | 23:48 |
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