=== Guest73761 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest42132 === Guest42132 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest20510 === Guest20510 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest76942 [02:54] is there a package for libdrm-2.4.24? [02:54] hey folks, any pointers to why I don't have 3d running anymore? (i915). And I do believe 'intel' is running ok from Xorg.0.log [02:58] durt: see link in /topic, it's a transition phase wrt xorg atm, lots of issues with 3d [03:00] Adys, I see...explains what I'm seeing today, but I lost compiz quite some time ago... oh well. === Guest76942 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest89718 [03:27] !info libdrm2 [03:27] libdrm2 (source: libdrm): Userspace interface to kernel DRM services -- runtime. In component main, is required. Version 2.4.23-1ubuntu3 (natty), package size 22 kB, installed size 112 kB === Seldon is now known as Hardin [03:37] Is the package plymouth-x11 still needed? [03:37] i see it's not marked as supported anymore [03:47] is the window placement in the new compiz slightly screwed? the shadow of the windows seems to be treated like its border. [03:48] or perhaps there is some configuration baggage from compiz 0.8 that is causing it? === Guest89718 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest59535 === Guest59535 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest22490 === Guest22490 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest77926 === Guest77926 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest59599 === zniavre_ is now known as zniavre [07:25] !nvidia [07:25] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | The ATI and nVidia binary drivers may not be currently installable at the moment [07:41] what's with with applications menu it disappears === Guest59599 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest18344 === Guest18344 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest66142 === croppa_ is now known as croppa === Guest66142 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest9151 [10:25] hello. [10:26] My natty cannot find mpeg etc codecs, what repo / package are they from? [10:26] It proposes to install them and then does not find them [10:26] ubuntu-restricted-extras [10:26] !info ubuntu-restricted-extras [10:26] ubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages for Ubuntu. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 43 (natty), package size 3 kB, installed size 36 kB [10:28] Yup, there we go. Thanks [10:28] welcome === Guest9151 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest69257 [11:57] hey, did the nvidia power support sheduled for 2.6.38? [11:57] is* [11:58] I shall not change the sentence in the middle [12:02] where can I find unity-2d developers? is there an IRC ? [12:02] om26er, #ayanta I believe [12:03] wrong spelling [12:03] hold on [12:03] om26er, #ayatana [12:04] om26er, is there an issue you need to dicuss? [12:04] discuss [12:04] hmm -2d developers are there too ? [12:04] na [12:04] no issue just wanted to see the discussions and stuff, have not seen em in #ayatana [12:04] om26er, that would be the place then [12:05] #ubuntu-arm [12:05] oops [12:05] :) [12:06] mm hey guys. I did notice this "fake" gnome panel across the secondary monitor ,, a bit alarming at first...although I only did partial update because of the nvidia issue [12:07] I am also noticing...after logging in ..as things are starting up...the unity /gnome panel and the it being quickly overlayed by the classic gnome panel... also could be as a result of partial updates === Guest69257 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest2559 === AlanBell is now known as world === world is now known as AlanBell === sdx24 is now known as sdx23 === Guest2559 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest18657 === Guest18657 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest79710 [14:30] hello after I've installed updates via update manager ubuntu is not loading anymore [14:31] how far does it get? [14:32] also i have installed nvidia drivers, last message in console says starting CUPS [OK] I'm writing from tty2 [14:33] ok, lets go back a step - what exactly did you do between it working and it stopping working? [14:33] run update manager installed updates [14:33] then installed nvidia driver and rebooted [14:33] ok, so it's booted just X isn't starting? [14:34] yes [14:34] what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log have to say? [14:35] NOUVEAU (0) : Closed GPU channel 2 [14:35] i've tried nvidia-xconfig and startx [14:35] but it says that there is no /usr/bin/X [14:36] I don't know much about the nvidia drivers; can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? [14:37] there is a command line program called pastebiniit which should be able to do it for you [14:37] how to do that from console is there any wgetpaste like prog? [14:37] oh thanks [14:40] paste.ubuntu.com/566318 [14:41] how i can try to manually start xorg? restarting gdm doesn't makes sence [14:42] root_: OK, reading that log, it couldn't find the closed source nvidia module, and is trying nouveau [14:42] how to fix that? [14:43] root_: Not sure, I don't know the nvidia stuff (I use Intel and ATI) startx should work for trying X [14:43] root_: I think you might try jockey-text to install the Nvidia driver [14:44] did nvidia release a working driver for new X [14:44] ? [14:47] what driver is used by default? [14:47] nouveau? [14:47] root_: Yeh, it looks like it tries the closed source one, then nouveau, thenthe 2d nv then ood old fashoned fb [14:49] if i will uninstall that closed source nvidia driver that shall help? [14:49] root_: I'd try to get the basics working without that first [14:50] root_: How did you install it? [14:50] with additional drivers gui [14:50] ok [14:52] as i understand i shall remove that nvidia-current package and generated xorg.conf right? [14:52] I think I'd use jockey-text to remove it [14:53] sorry what is jockey-text? [14:53] ah got it :) [14:54] root_: The 'additional driver' gui is a front end to jockey [14:54] it just searches drivers and returns nothing [14:54] ok, then as you say, nuke the package [14:54] no man page too [14:54] and the xorg.conf [14:55] i used "purge" option [14:55] that's right? [14:55] yeh [14:55] penguin42: thank you very much for help, gonna reboot [14:55] thank me when it works! [15:01] removing nvidia-current and xorg.conf doesn't helped [15:01] why on startx it says /usr/bin/X not found? [15:02] and now console has higher resolution and can't parse cyrillic chars [15:04] root_: Do you have the xserver-xorg package installed? [15:04] it says no [15:05] how to search with apt? [15:05] sudo apt-cache search [15:05] thanks [15:05] not having xserver-xorg installed is odd [15:09] xserver-xorg is in list when i try apt-cache search xserver-xorg --installed [15:10] ah it's in /usr/bin/X11/startx [15:10] root_: apt-cache search --installed doesn't mean it's installed [15:11] see what apt-cache policy --installed [15:11] argh [15:11] what apt-cache policy xserver-xorg returns [15:12] 1:7.6~3ubuntu4 natty/main [15:13] damn can't see letters [15:13] smthing with codepage === Guest79710 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest5597 [15:17] guys i'm sorry but could u tell what paste.ubuntu.com/566335 says about X server? [15:19] root_: Could not start command /usr/bin/X -br -verbose [15:19] root_: what does ls -l /usr/bin/X return? [15:20] if you don't have this file then you don't have xserver-xorg properly installed. [15:22] root_: What happens if you do apt-get install xserver-xorg [15:26] kklimonda: no such file or dir [15:26] damn i can't read output at all [15:27] launch bash with LC_ALL=C [15:27] LC_ALL=C bash [15:27] (which won't help, as I don't know which output you can't read) [15:28] wow [15:28] apt-cache says it's not installed [15:29] apt-get install xserver-xorg shows list of packages that would be installed [15:30] how that happend? I've got gnome fully installed and working, could nvidia-driver uninstalled xserver? [15:30] Given that nvidia driver is currently broken, it's possible [15:32] root_: Might be best to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop just to make sure you have the full set of normal stuff [15:33] X started woohoo [15:34] thank you much for help guys [15:34] no prob [15:36] emm maybe that sounds weird but i uninstalled ubuntu-desktop as dep of indicator-applet, could be the reason of missing xorg server? :D [15:38] no, shouldn't take out xserver-xorg [15:40] ok thanks [15:57] !ops [15:57] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, bilalakhtar, Jordan_U, or rww! [15:58] fail === Guest5597 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest97207 [16:53] tsimpson: goosh! he is such a bother.. atleast the tiniest of trolls have something to troll about :/ [16:54] maybe ops should just ignore his "!o-ps" [16:54] vish, I don't think that a flashing window is easy to ignore. [16:55] I recall this person that used !ops three times just to realize what it did, and then got kicked. [16:56] Daekdroom: nah, he knows what he is doing. he has bee at it atleast twice in the past couple of weeks [16:56] been* [16:56] they hit multiple channels multiple times, I don't think we should ignore that [16:56] it is totally redundant to just keep pinging ops, when you have nothing to troll about :/ [16:57] tsimpson: it seems it is his fun to just get banned.. so banning him only entices him more :) [16:59] maybe, but not banning him allows him to constantly disrupt channels [17:00] maybe, yea.. [17:01] change the bot to do something more interesting for him? [17:01] ohay [17:02] bugabuga! ;) [17:02] VISSSSHHHHH === Guest97207 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest59707 [18:01] anyone have problems with the microphone using empathy/telepathy over msn conversations? === Guest59707 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest91312 [18:17] can anybody help me to install and run kylix 3 on my ubuntu 1010 [18:18] Ubuntu bug 1010 in drivel (Ubuntu) "out-of-date" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1010 [18:21] anyone having microphone issues with Natty? [18:21] my laptop mic worked fine in maverick, but doesn't work in natty [18:26] i have some problems that the selected theme is not applied (except for window borders). any ideas? [18:27] http://nailor.devzero.de/oneshot/2011-02-12/Screenshot.png/8efd168320b79a12/Screenshot.png [18:45] nailora, I have had this issue in the past did you restart x and try again [18:50] anyone having microphone issues with Natty? [18:50] my laptop mic worked fine in maverick, but doesn't work in natty === Guest91312 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest6692 [19:43] Can someone confirm a gnome-terminal issue before I report a bug? [19:43] what is it? [19:43] My g-t profile has the menubar off by default, but when I open g-t, its on, and the setting is unchecked in the menu itself. I need to toggle the checkbox twice before it will turn the menubar off. [19:46] well, for me if I turn it off in the profile and then open a new terminal the menubar is off [19:46] Hm. [19:46] If I turn it off in the profile and open a new terminal, it's on :( [19:46] Classic Gnome, btw. [19:47] me too. Okay. [19:47] oh, thats annoying too. I just opened a new terminal, and the menu bar showed up there, and on my old terminal that I was using before. [19:57] I just did a fresh install of Xubuntu daily. First, its nice that the gtk resize handle on the desktop is gone. [19:57] The multiple menu entries are gone as well. [19:57] nekoCAT, The thing on the bottom right of every window? [19:57] bug #717859 logged [19:57] Launchpad bug 717859 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) "gnome-terminal "Show Menubar" setting not working properly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/717859 [19:57] No, there was a bug with the resize handle showing up on the corner of the desktop. [19:58] That was fixed and I thank the developers for that. [19:59] Oh. [19:59] I recall it showing up in the gnome panel [19:59] In this particular Xubuntu daily build, some of the shortcuts in the bottom panel are broken. [20:02] The Firefox/Thunderbird launchers are just empty placeholders. [20:03] report a bug for that against xfce4-panel [20:03] charlie-tca: Okay, can do. [20:06] jockey shows up in the systray without an icon. Is this a known problem? [20:07] anyone having microphone issues with Natty? [20:07] my laptop mic worked fine in maverick, but doesn't work in natty [20:07] yeah, sort of. Jockey has some issues since stuff is still broken [20:08] Quick question, is it safe to install the nvidia drivers yet? Has anyone tried? [20:09] they are broken yet, as far as I know [20:09] Thank you. I will hold off on that then. [20:10] I must be off. I will report the panel icon bug in launchpad later today. [20:11] * penguin42 notes that xorg-edgers is broken on Radeon for me on Natty as of an update sometime in the last week [20:12] penguin42, define broken please? [20:12] robin0800: gdm won't render the login box properly - didn't get any further; logs full of 'r600_packet3_check:1330 invalid cmd stream 408' [20:13] sorry, kdm [20:13] sorry^2, gdm! [20:13] penguin42, does r600 use gallium driver? [20:14] robin0800: I don't know [20:14] penguin42, do glxinfo will tell you [20:15] r600 does not use gallium by default. [20:15] (not even xorg-edgers) [20:15] robin0800: I've dropped back to the standard natty packages and I don't see any sign of the word 'gallium' in glxinfo output [20:15] what is Gallium? [20:15] the card is an HD4350 rv710 [20:16] Gallium is some replacement for classic Mesa. [20:16] r300 driver uses gallium by default already. Faster, better, smaller code. [20:16] The mesa driver that uses gallium is called r300g. The one that uses classic mesa code is called r300 or r300c [20:16] ah ok [20:17] Daekdroom, only up to 500 I guess and has a tearing issue with compiz [20:17] robin0800, r300 driver also handles r400 and r500 cards ;) === Guest6692 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest99502 [20:18] Daekdroom, yes but it still needs some work I think [20:19] robin0800, nah. r300g is way better than r300c at this point. r600c, on the other hand, is more stable than r600g, however slower [20:20] Daekdroom, well I've got tearing in compiz with it [20:27] oh dear - that's a good crash - it's stuck playing the last ~3 seconds of audio [20:28] ubuntu 11.10 exist ? [20:28] repeatedly, in a loop saying 'move the bodies, No Doctor' [20:30] Which Doctor? [20:30] Ducky [20:31] Oh that show. [20:31] NCIS [20:31] Yeah, that show/. [20:32] is not having a good day for video related issues [20:41] hellyeah: no, all current development is happening on 11.04 [20:43] "Preferred Applications" isn't detecting Opera as a browser [20:44] so I can't seem to set it as my default browser [20:45] also seems to be kicing a few radeon_cs_ioctl *ERROR* Failed to parse relocation -35! crashes [20:48] !ops [20:48] im gangsta [20:48] !ops [20:53] hi there [20:53] it's funny that the bug reporting tool, is unstable and crash by collecting details for a bug report :D [20:58] ah that's not good - which one - KDE or gnome? [20:59] gnome [20:59] how did it crash? [21:00] first did compiz crash, and after pressing send report the app itself crashing [21:01] compiz crashes after clicking the ubuntu logo und the top left [21:01] *on [21:02] out of interest which graphics card? [21:02] anyone having microphone issues with Natty? [21:03] my laptop mic worked fine in maverick, but doesn't work in natty [21:03] raknorak [21:03] lol [21:03] same thing happens to me [21:03] i am using an asus laptop with intel graphics [21:03] it crashes, and while i attempt to bug report i get like crash after crash and the screen fills up with boxes lol [21:05] it's a macbook 2.1 with intel gma950 [21:06] and sometimes the window decoration disappears [21:07] the application folder in unity 3d, is not scrollable with the touchpad (any other app works fine with that) und it's kinda laggy with scrolling with the scrollbar itself [21:08] X does seem very flaky at the moment [21:09] and it would be nice, that the toolbar on the left would not hide if a window comes to the border [21:09] maybe as an option === Guest99502 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest76802 === eric is now known as Guest34735 [21:41] the interface crashs if a flash video plays and banshee will start [21:46] I don't seem to get anything logged to /var/log/messages any more - is everyone else seeing that? [21:46] cat /var/log/messages doesn't display anything in here [21:47] bug or feature? [21:48] Who knows? *dun dun dun dun* [22:03] will natty have gnome 3.0? [22:03] Ibn_Ali_al-Turki, Yes, but its default desktop interface will be Unity instead of Gnome Shell [22:04] Daekdroom: Feature - found the changelog comment [22:04] Daekdroom thanks, i know that...but i was wondering if the classic desktop will be 3.0, or remain as 2.30 [22:04] Ibn_Ali_al-Turki, Classic Desktop will be 2.32, because 3.0 is Gnome Shell already, and that is not "Classic Desktop" [22:05] Ibn_Ali_al-Turki, but I'd expect them to compile everything to GTK+3 if it's possible. [22:05] thanks === Guest76802 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest73710 === Guest73710 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest33861 === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq [23:25] hi- i've tried to add the kubuntu backports repo, but am getting this error: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backportsv/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found [23:26] lithpr, why are you using a maverick PPA on a natty install anyway? [23:26] i'm trying to get the natty updates into maverick [23:26] lithpr, this is not exactly the channel for that [23:27] lithpr, but what happens is: the link is wrong [23:27] hmmm [23:27] lithpr, there's a "backportsv" there. It's only backports [23:27] Daekdroom: okay, thank you. it is what got added with "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports" [23:28] weird. thank you Daekdroom, i will try changing that url [23:44] I would just like to extend my support for the integration of gmusicbrowser in xubuntu. [23:47] Thanks [23:47] it is nice, isn't it? [23:48] charlie-tca: It is, and it recognizes and sorts the tags better than other music players I have tried.