[06:47] <MoLE_> bug 715438
[06:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 715438 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "hermes-I wireless interface will not associate with open access point (affects: 23) (dups: 2) (heat: 64)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/715438
[06:48] <MoLE_> How to progress to triaged?
[09:17] <persia> MoLE_, Your best bet is to continue the discussion with cyphermox about the issue.  He's likely sleeping now, but will probably get back to your last comment sometime in the next few days.
[09:18] <MoLE_> ty persia
[11:18] <erkan^> Hello, i have a problem with install a upgrade for 10.04 to 10.10:
[11:18] <erkan^> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:
[11:18] <erkan^> E:Fout, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve maakte scheidingen aan, dit kan veroorzaakt worden door vastgehouden pakketten.
[12:33] <gaurav_pawaskar> Hi all, This is Gaurav. I have newly joined Ubuntu team and I want to contribute to Ubuntu. Can anyone mentor me through initial stage?
[12:35] <AbhijiT> gaurav_pawaskar, i know one person. but he is not online atm. i will first ask him if he want student. if yes then i will tell you
[12:36] <gaurav_pawaskar> Thanks AbhijitT. this is my launchpad profile : https://launchpad.net/~gaurav-pawaskar
[12:38] <AbhijiT> hmm
[14:56] <AbhijiT> om26er, ping
[14:56] <om26er> hi there AbhijiT you again changed your nick ?
[14:57] <AbhijiT> om26er, yah!
[14:58] <AbhijiT> om26er, there was one new member here asking for mentor. do you want student?
[14:58] <om26er> hmm, I have exams for two weeks, starting Monday
[14:58] <AbhijiT> oh okay!
[14:58] <AbhijiT> nvm!
[14:58] <AbhijiT> best luck for exams om26er :)
[14:59] <om26er> AbhijiT, I really need that. thanks ;)
[15:00] <AbhijiT> :)
[16:45] <AbhiJiT> !mentor | gaurav_pawaskar
[16:45] <ubot4> gaurav_pawaskar: Looking for a helping hand with bug triage? Read the wiki for information about requesting a bugsquad mentor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors
[16:45] <AbhiJiT> gaurav_pawaskar, i asked to my friend but he is not free these days. you apply at mentor page
[16:46] <gaurav_pawaskar> ok sure.. Thanks alot
[21:55] <trinikrono> can someone help me with bug 701060 im stuck with what to tell the reporter
[21:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 701060 in ubuntu "Boot failure (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/701060
[21:58] <charlie-tca> it's a bug
[21:59] <charlie-tca> I think it has to do with the parallel boot processes. If the wrong process gets in front, it hangs the system and you have to reboot
[21:59] <charlie-tca> but I don't think that is a good answer for the reporter
[22:00] <trinikrono> charlie-tca: i still get the boot menu by pressing escape so i am not sure what to tell him
[22:00] <penguin42> that's been going on for ages
[22:00] <trinikrono> can i tell the reporter to copy the messages from dmesg or something?
[22:00] <charlie-tca> It doesn't matter if he gets the menu or not, it is still going to be an intermittent bug
[22:01] <trinikrono> as it only happens sometimes
[22:01] <trinikrono> :(
[22:01] <charlie-tca> You could confirm it as low priority, since it ain't gonna get fixed fast
[22:02] <charlie-tca> have him install bootchart and attach it to the bug next time it hangs
[22:03] <charlie-tca> you can also ask for /var/log/dmesg.1.log after it fails
[22:04] <charlie-tca> no, that should be /var/log/dmesg.0 instead
[22:07] <trinikrono> thanks charlie-tca ill go with the dmesg one
[22:07] <charlie-tca> okay
[22:08] <charlie-tca> That hang happens to most of us occasionally
[22:08] <trinikrono> charlie-tca: it should be a meta-bug then?
[22:08] <trinikrono> i still use hardy :D
[22:08] <charlie-tca> nope
[22:09] <charlie-tca> It is reported as several bugs already, I believe.
[22:09] <charlie-tca> It is just hard to pin down, because it is intermittent
[22:12] <trinikrono> charlie-tca: can you set importance to low for me
[22:13] <charlie-tca> done
[22:14] <trinikrono> i will also put a link to the bootchart thing you mentioned in the bug report
[22:15] <charlie-tca> That is a separate application that you can install. Sometimes it helps to track down boot issues
[22:18]  * penguin42 wishes he could track down his bug 625395   I think it's lvm related
[22:18] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 625395 in linux (Ubuntu) "~30s boot pause (affects: 7) (heat: 32)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/625395
[22:21] <penguin42> should probably turn lvm debug on again
[22:21] <charlie-tca> I am not so good with lvm. I gave it up a long time back
[22:21] <penguin42> oh it works great for me; I've just got this annoying boot time hang that started somewhere around maverick
[22:22] <penguin42> and keeps getting longer and longer
[22:22] <penguin42> I seem to remember the Maverick alphas had a blisteringly fast boot on here - but now I actually go away and do something else during the boot
[22:24] <charlie-tca> yeah, I have not seeen that "really fast boot" here
[22:25] <charlie-tca> Well, I marked that triaged too
[22:33] <penguin42> charlie-tca: The nasty thing which if it affects others is that during the pause the screen is fully blank with no sync (because plymouth hasn't started yet) so it looks like a solid crash - most people would give up by 30s
[22:34] <charlie-tca> I must be really stubborn, because I always figure if it didn't hang 5 minutes, it is working
[22:34] <penguin42> hehe
[22:48] <psusi> does anyone know where the upstream bug tracker for ntfs-3g is?
[22:54] <charlie-tca> Take a look at https://launchpad.net/ntfs-3g
[22:54] <charlie-tca> That should be the upstream
[22:56] <charlie-tca> psusi: in other words, the bugs are reported to launchpad, and tracked there under ubuntu
[22:56] <psusi> so there is no upstream?
[22:57] <Varc> Hello, charlie-tca
[22:57] <charlie-tca> upstream is the same as downstream, ubuntu is responsible for them
[22:58] <charlie-tca> You can forward them to Debian, it looks like
[22:58] <psusi> how is that?  Ubuntu isn't the maintainer of the package as far as I can see... it seems that the original authors now have a company called tuxera
[22:58] <psusi> but I can't find a bug tracker on their web site
[23:00] <charlie-tca> Okay, so if tuxera does not have a bug tracker, they ain't gonna fix it
[23:00] <charlie-tca> either debian or ubuntu will be the fixer, which means you can forward them to Debian, if it is not ubuntu that broke it