[00:01] <brobostigon> nos da, everyone, sleep well.
[00:18] <dogmatic69> anyone got firesheep working on ubuntu?
[00:19] <dogmatic69> i tried http://randommusingsofarealgeek.blogspot.com/2010/11/firesheep-on-linux.html
[00:19] <dogmatic69> but complains about libpcap0.8, which is not in apt-get and seems like i have libpcap2
[00:25] <zen> tweck kaar mull?
[00:27] <jacobw> Romanian?
[01:30] <directhex> dogmatic69, 0.8 is on lucid
[01:30] <directhex> um, maverick
[01:30] <dogmatic69> would i be able to use that and 2?
[01:30] <directhex> don't see why not
[01:30] <directhex> 0.8 refers to the SONAME anyway, not the version
[01:31] <dogmatic69> ok
[01:31] <dogmatic69> how do i go about getting that?
[01:32] <directhex> um, packages.ubuntu.com is a good start
[06:10] <YanksRule> !ops
[06:12] <YanksRule> !ops
[06:12] <maco> oh for crying out loud....
[06:13] <YanksRule> !ops
[06:13] <YanksRule> maco,  im gangsta
[06:14] <YanksRule> !staff
[06:15] <YanksRule> !ops
[06:16] <YanksRule> !ops
[06:18] <YanksRule> hu\
[06:18] <YanksRule> e
[06:18] <YanksRule> e
[06:18] <YanksRule> e
[06:18] <YanksRule> e
[06:18] <YanksRule> e
[06:18] <YanksRule> !staff
[06:31] <Myrtti> hohum
[06:31] <MartijnVdS> morning Myrtti
[06:32]  * MartijnVdS looks at the mess
[06:33]  * Myrtti charges up the emp gun
[06:33]  * MartijnVdS stands back
[06:48] <Myrtti> i think he stopped
[06:48] <MartijnVdS> \o/
[08:56] <czajkowski> Alolha
[09:09] <czajkowski> AlanBell: http://siriusit.co.uk/blogs/12-feb-2011/open-business-smes-take-place-public-sector-table
[09:30] <popey> morning all
[09:34] <czajkowski> popey: howdy
[09:35] <czajkowski> Good news for SMES http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/news/government-opens-contracts-small-business
[09:50] <atollino> ciao
[09:51] <AlanBell> thanks czajkowski
[09:51] <czajkowski> np
[10:43] <oly> good morning,
[10:44] <oly> thought i would see if some one can tell me how file association working in gnome / ubuntu
[10:44] <oly> i am intrested in modifying my app so that when i click on .stl files it launchs in the same fashion that clicking a jpg opens an image viewer
[10:45] <oly> guessing its some config file hidden away on my system, and guessing some one may know where :)
[10:45] <Myrtti> gconf
[10:46] <oly> oh , yeah guess that kind of makes sense actually
[10:46] <oly> so just need to figure out a command to insert during install process
[10:49] <Laney> no no no
[10:49] <Laney> you specify mimetypes in the .desktop file
[10:50] <daubers> Morning
[10:51] <oly> Laney, care to specify where ?
[10:51] <oly> i just did a quick search for .desktop and they are all over the place :p
[10:51] <Laney> MimeType=<semicolon-separated-list-of-mimetypes-your-program-opns>
[10:51] <Laney> look in /usr/share/applications/rhythmbox.desktop for an example
[10:52] <oly> excellent thanks for that info :)
[10:53] <Laney> there's 'desktop-file-validate' to check you got it ~rigth
[10:55] <oly> ah cool that should be handy
[11:21] <brobostigon> morning everyone.
[11:26] <daubers> o/
[11:26] <brobostigon> morning daubers
[11:28] <Lcawte> Problem much... what email address do I use for the site... I had an account on the beta, I've requested a password reset, but I can't seem to find that email
[11:34] <aCilnv> morning, does anyone know where in London I can go to buy and pickup a Alfa AWUS036H USB Wifi adapter today ??
[11:40] <AlanBell> aCilnv: dunno about specifc models but I got a USB wifi thing from Maplins that just works
[11:40] <AlanBell> Lcawte: on ubuntu-uk.org?
[11:42] <aCilnv> AlanBell - thanks. I want to play about with backtrack but the chipset on the macbookrpo wifi doesnt play nicely with everything.. thanks anyways
[11:52] <brobostigon> linux review on click.
[11:53] <brobostigon> fail, only mentioned pclinuxos.
[12:55] <popey> brobostigon: guess they dont have time to review them all
[12:56] <brobostigon> popey: agreed, that would take alot of time.
[13:04] <bigcalm> Hi kids :)
[13:04] <brobostigon> afternoonings bigcalm :)
[13:05] <MartijnVdS> \o
[13:05] <brobostigon> afternoonings MartijnVdS :)
[13:30] <UndiFineD> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006m9ry
[13:31] <UndiFineD> Click from this morning, can someone youtube it ?
[13:35] <AlanBell> can anyone reproduce the issue mentioned on the list where at the top of http://ubuntu-uk.org/ you see "loco dire" rather than "loco directory"
[13:39] <gord> AlanBell, looks fine to me, using firefox 4 on a netbook resolution
[13:49] <DJones> AlanBell: Looks fine to me on Chromium
[13:50] <dutchie> AlanBell: i can see "Loco Direct" (with only half a t)
[13:51] <MichealH> AlanBell: Mine is Loco Directo
[13:51] <MichealH> Using 1024x768 Resoultion
[13:51] <MichealH> and Chrome
[13:51] <Baikonur> Four Loko <3
[13:52] <Pendulum> AlanBell: I'm getting it on FF in MacOS, maybe the person is using MacOS?
[13:55] <Pendulum> AlanBell: yeah, I'm guessing it's something weird with MacOS as I'm getting it on both Safari and FF
[13:55] <dutchie> Pendulum: i just got it on 'buntu
[13:56] <Pendulum> dutchie: oops! didn't see that
[13:57] <AlanBell> interesting
[13:58] <AlanBell> there totally is a </head> tag in the header.php in the theme, but it does not appear to be rendering
[14:20] <AlanBell> dutchie: what browser?
[14:20] <dutchie> chrome dev channel
[14:20] <AlanBell> and does it still happen?
[14:20] <dutchie> yes
[14:20] <AlanBell> I un-broke the missing </head>
[14:21] <AlanBell> works for me in firefox and chromium
[14:22] <popey> wfm in chrome on osx
[14:23] <popey> also fine in ff and safari
[14:23] <dutchie> some of the tweet pics are broken too
[14:23] <dutchie> oh no, they are there now
[14:24] <dutchie> it still doesn't validate ;)
[14:25] <AlanBell> it *nearly* validates
[14:25] <AlanBell> there is a <ul></ul> which is technically invalid without any <li> in it
[14:26] <AlanBell> personally I think that is harsh
[14:26] <dutchie> a little
[14:40] <AlanBell> can't find how the twitter thing renders the link
[14:44] <AlanBell> yay, down to 1 error
[14:49] <AlanBell> right, so the last error is in the grey bar below the orange header, which *can* contain secondary navigation links, like a submenu
[14:49] <AlanBell> the code is
[14:49] <AlanBell>                 <ul id="dynamic-secondary-header-menu">
[14:49] <AlanBell>                     <?php dynamic_sidebar('secondary-header-menu'); ?>
[14:49] <AlanBell>                 </ul>
[14:50] <AlanBell> and the problem is when there are no links returned by the dynamic_sidebar function
[14:52] <AlanBell> is there a neat solution for not doing the <ul></ul> when there is no content/
[14:55] <popey> put the ul inside secondary-header-menu?
[14:57] <AlanBell> dynamic_sidebar is a wordpress funtion I think
[14:58] <AlanBell> ok, found an ugly hack to make it validate
[14:58] <AlanBell> I added <li style="display:none;"></li> inside the <ul>
[14:59] <AlanBell> so there is always at least one <li> in it
[15:03] <DJones> Hey czajkowski Thats a good Eurovision song entry Ireland have picked this year
[15:05]  * AlanBell finds out what the truncated text issue is
[15:06]  * AlanBell stabs the number 960 and letters g and s
[15:08] <xircon1> Afternoon all, quick question, downloaded a conky config file that has cr/lf as endings.  How do I change to just lf?
[15:08] <dutchie> xircon1: there is dos2unix for a quick and easy cli fix
[15:08] <AlanBell> dutchie: Pendulum: MichealH: can you see if it is fixed now please
[15:08] <xircon1> Sorry *line endings
[15:09] <dutchie> AlanBell: fixed for me
[15:09] <AlanBell> yay
[15:09] <MichealH> AlanBell: Sure
[15:09] <MichealH> I have "L"
[15:09] <Pendulum> AlanBell: fixed
[15:09] <Pendulum> (for me)
[15:09] <AlanBell> MichealH: shift refresh
[15:10] <xircon1> Thanks dutchie
[15:10] <MichealH> Same, on Chrome
[15:10] <xircon1> Back in a bit
[15:10] <AlanBell> I added a recipes button to make the problem worse so I could see it and fix it
[15:11] <MichealH> Imme the CSS and I can fix it for ya, maybe :P
[15:11]  * MichealH dowbloads Natty Alpha 2
[15:12] <AlanBell> MichealH:  http://ubuntu-uk.org/wp-content/themes/light-wordpress-theme/style.css
[15:12] <dutchie> has empathy not been connecting to msn for anyone else today?
[15:13] <AlanBell> the problem was a fixed width 650px on the #access tag that I missed when converting it from evil fixed width to pleasant fluid width
[15:14] <AlanBell> remember kids, 960gs: not big and not clever
[15:16] <jonsaint> hi all. i keep having problems with my desktop
[15:17] <Pendulum> MichealH: I hate to ask the obvious question, but did you clear your cache in Chrome?
[15:18] <jonsaint> anyone???
[15:18] <Pendulum> jonsaint: ask your question and someone will hopefully be able to help.
[15:18] <AlanBell> !ask
[15:19] <jonsaint> top of the screen on the right, you got a speech bubble, then your name in my case, john) and next to that the power down button but on mine i got my name and where the power button should be i got 'ohn' (part of my name) and the power button is not there
[15:22] <dutchie> i'm sure i've seen that before
[15:22] <dutchie> can't remember how i fixed it though, sorry
[15:22] <jonsaint> it only used to happen now and then but its nearly all the time now
[15:26] <AlanBell> I have seen corruption up there, but only when resizing virtual machine windows in virtualbox
[15:27] <popey> great work on the website AlanBell
[15:27] <jonsaint> i only got ubuntu installed on this machine using all standard settings
[15:27] <AlanBell> jonsaint: what screen resolution?
[15:27]  * Pendulum hugs popey 
[15:27] <popey> uhoh
[15:28] <Pendulum> what?
[15:28] <popey> nothing :)
[15:28] <popey> usually hugs precede favour requests where I come from :)
[15:28] <Pendulum> nope!
[15:28] <popey> \o/
[15:28] <popey> win
[15:28] <Pendulum> just random hug because I hadn't hugged you in a while :)
[15:30] <jonsaint> let me see alan, 1 sec
[15:30] <exobuzz> popey, i have xbmc working on my joggler images now.
[15:30] <exobuzz> popey, no release yet. but close. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WALlSckmMWs (was before video rendering was fixed)
[15:31]  * AlanBell boggles at the dabs valentines email
[15:31] <jonsaint> alan its saying 1024x768
[15:33] <AlanBell> jonsaint: ok, that is nice and unremarkable
[15:33]  * AlanBell heads off to farnborough
[15:33] <jonsaint> cant explain why i got my name and then part my name next to it
[15:35] <exobuzz> popey, im sure your far too busy building us a brave new world out of blocks to use the joggler though right ? :)
[15:40] <MichealH> ... and Natty is down
[15:40] <MichealH> :D
[15:43] <penguin42> down?
[17:20] <penguin42> is anyone else having problems seeing http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog - I'm getting a proxy error, but I'm not aware of having a proxy in the path
[17:25] <AlanBell> penguin42: yes, looks like a reverse proxy/load balancer or something
[17:26] <penguin42> AlanBell: Probably on the Ubuntu side - hmm I wonder who we prod
[17:28]  * penguin42 will send a mail to webmaster
[17:28]  * danfish is doing a 64bit 'upgrade' of his main laptop and it's going........badly :(
[17:29] <penguin42> what's up?
[17:31] <ujjain> Is there a BBC News 24 website?
[17:32] <danfish> weird kernel errors - "MCE_error - MCE not human readable"
[17:32] <AlanBell> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/
[17:32] <penguin42> danfish: MCEs are almost always hardware
[17:33] <danfish> penguin42: true - no errors with slightly older kernels tho'
[17:33] <penguin42> danfish: You can run them through the mcelog program to try and figure out what's going on
[17:33] <ujjain> AlanBell: I mean a live video stream? http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/bbc_world_service seems to have audio-only.
[17:35] <danfish> penguin42: tx - just doing that at the mo
[17:35] <penguin42> danfish: There have been hardware/bios/kernel bugs that can trigger them when it's not really a fault, but they are reasonably rare
[17:36] <AlanBell> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/tv/bbc_news24/watchlive
[17:37] <ujjain> Yes, I found that link, I need to buy a licensen.
[17:37] <AlanBell> yes you do
[17:38] <ujjain> ah ok :) shame.
[17:38] <penguin42> someone has to pay for Chris Evans...hmm well....
[17:38] <danfish> penguin42: it's an odd one - the liveUSB I've made boots OK, but once installed goes 'ape'
[17:39] <penguin42> danfish: normal SATA?
[17:39] <Azelphur> hahaha, have you seen what happened to nokia after they decided to team up with windows mobile?
[17:39] <Azelphur> they had a massive staff walk out and their stocks have gone through the floor, haha
[17:39] <penguin42> Azelphur: I worry they're going to run amok with their early phone patents
[17:39] <penguin42> classic death spiral
[17:41] <danfish> penguin42: yup - I'm pretty sure I've nailed it. I will be submitting bugs later :)
[17:41] <Myrtti> I feel slightly nauseous when people talk of Nokia now
[17:41] <penguin42> danfish: What does mcelog have to say?
[17:45] <danfish> penguin42: not an awful lot. I'll be exploring the problems tomorrow more, but for now, a bootable system is a bonus.
[17:45]  * danfish needs to watch rugby now and relax :)
[17:46]  * brobostigon just got slagged off, by his ex's new partner. and is very unhappy.
[17:47] <danfish> brobostigon: :((
[17:48] <brobostigon> i was sitting in the pub, enjoying some really nice real ale, and he has to come over and ruin it.
[17:48] <brobostigon> i am censoring myself,
[17:49] <pr0ph3t> hi all
[17:49] <brobostigon> noswaith dda pr0ph3t
[17:50] <pr0ph3t> do you have problems with telepathy and the msn plug-in I can't seem to get the microphone to work
[17:50] <brobostigon> :'(
[17:50] <pr0ph3t> brobostigon, I beg you pardon?
[17:51] <brobostigon> pr0ph3t: sorry, thats welsh for good evening.
[17:51] <pr0ph3t> same to you brobostigon
[17:53] <brobostigon> danfish: i have everry reason to go kick him up the place where the sun doesnt shine. but that aint going to help.
[17:54] <danfish> brobostigon: prob best to 'rise above it'
[17:54] <pr0ph3t> and kick him higher up?
[17:55] <danfish> pr0ph3t: ha
[17:55] <pr0ph3t> sorry
[17:55] <brobostigon> danfish: i have done, i have him barred, for doing it, to me, a very loyal customer, and that is the end of it.
[17:57] <danfish> brobostigon: job done
[17:57] <pr0ph3t> you don't use empathy for msn then?
[17:58] <danfish> don't use msn
[17:58] <brobostigon> danfish: yes, he gets what he deserves.
[17:59] <dutchie> pr0ph3t: i can't get msn on empathy to work at all atm
[18:00] <brobostigon> msn in empathy seems to work here, but i am not on ubuntu atm.
[18:00] <pr0ph3t> dutchie, I can get video: send/receive, audio: receive none sent
[18:02] <dutchie> oh, it's working now
[18:02] <dutchie> it wasn't earlier
[18:03] <brobostigon> killing telepathy-butterfly seems to work.
[18:05] <pr0ph3t> brobostigon, dutchie, can you get audio after killing it?
[18:05] <brobostigon> pr0ph3t: nope, not for ages,
[18:41] <MartijnVdS> Woo, Channel4 HD
[18:51] <brobostigon> yay wales,
[18:51] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: what's up with Wales?
[18:51] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: we beat scotland, :)
[18:51] <dutchie> i assume they just some sort of rugby match
[18:51] <dutchie> +won
[18:51] <MartijnVdS> ah
[18:52] <brobostigon> rugby, yes,
[19:02] <jacobw> decisively
[19:46] <s-fox> Hello.
[21:00] <Neoti> why is freenode port scanning my IP address ?
[21:01] <directhex> looking for open relays
[21:01] <directhex> and fish
[21:01] <directhex> it likes fish
[21:11] <gord> if it finds fish you are in sooooooo much troooouble
[21:16] <daubers> I like fish
[21:28] <DJones> daubers: Yeah, a bit of beer battered cod is quite enjoyable
[21:29] <daubers> Oooooh... I haven't made beer batter in _ages_
[21:57] <BigRedS> hmm
[21:57] <BigRedS> oop, wrong window
[23:23] <AlanBell> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11549879 how cool is that!!
[23:27] <ali1234> http://www.flickr.com/photos/blahflowers/4926489165/
[23:28] <ali1234> AlanBell: ^
[23:28] <AlanBell> yummy
[23:29] <AlanBell> but giant jelly babies at Marble Arch would be awesome
[23:29] <AlanBell> wonder if they will taste right
[23:46] <shauno> why did I think setting up my own mailserver would be entertaining  :(
[23:48] <bigcalm> shauno: you like pain?
[23:48] <bigcalm> I refuse to host mail for anybody, not even myself
[23:48] <hamitron> :)
[23:49] <shauno> apparently so.
[23:49] <bigcalm> There are so many ready made solutions out there
[23:49]  * hamitron lets google take the abuse
[23:49] <bigcalm> Yep
[23:49] <shauno> atm I'm learning how to install a new CA on my phone because it cries about self-signed certs constantly
[23:50] <hamitron> the onlyproblem with letting others do everything... life gets boring ;)
[23:50]  * jacobw curbs his own thoughts about setting up a mailserver
[23:51] <bigcalm> I think that there are enough crappy problems out there to not add mail hosting to the list
[23:51] <bigcalm> It's good to have had the experience though :)
[23:51] <hamitron> just as fun running a local mail server imo
[23:52] <hamitron> can play, without having the real hassles
[23:52] <shauno> it's kinda educational.  but a pain knowing that the smallest mistake will have me peddling viagra before I know it
[23:52] <bigcalm> Yeesh, don't open port 25
[23:53] <hamitron> hmmm, £150 left in my comp budget, and want £256 worth of stuff :/
[23:58] <jacobw> you need some quantative easing :p
[23:59] <hamitron> or a mug in here to buy £120 worth of crap off me
[23:59] <hamitron> ;)
[23:59] <hamitron> guess calling them a mug before I even start would not be a good sales pitch
[23:59] <hamitron> ;D