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wrstcyberanger: kde has had that since 4.5 atleast01:27
cyberangerwrst: kde has had what since 4.501:28
wrstthe aero snap like features01:28
wrstthe gnome implementation or unity implementation are a little... off compared to kde or win 701:29
cyberangerah, it's had my lack of attention even longer01:29
wrstit is a nice feature especially on laptops and single monitor machines01:30
cyberangeropenbox I just keep all maximised01:31
wrstthe maximizing isn't such a big deal but you drag one window to one size it is half the size of your monitor do the same with another window and you autmaticallly have them where you can compare01:32
cyberangeryeah, but it's rare I need that much comparison01:33
cyberangerscreen and terminator01:33
cyberangerthe things I need compared work with those01:34
wrstits pretty handy and looks cool :)01:35
cyberangerwindows, looks cool, are you trying to kill me?01:36
wrstthe feature is01:37
cyberangerwoohoohoo01:50
wrstwhat's up cyberanger?02:17
cyberangerI think I've got a better backup going02:20
wrstcool cyberanger02:22
wrsthow are you doing it?02:23
cyberangerI got off the boost mobile phone (real nice quick and dirty backup, but slow)02:26
cyberangerand onto my virgin mobile card02:26
cyberangerwhich is a bit tricker to run on ubuntu, and linux in general, but it works02:27
wrstoh you mean network backup... cooler02:28
cyberangeryeah, trying to get my systems a little more robust02:28
cyberangerdistribute any point of failure02:29
wrsthey cyberanger could you highlight me i'm working on something here :)02:29
cyberangerwrst: remind me, how do I do that, silly cli user here ;-)02:30
wrsthaha it worked02:31
wrstcyberanger:  you won't like this i'm using a dock :)02:31
cyberangerwrst: your right, what's a dock, sounds evil02:31
cyberangerwrst: I don't like it02:33
wrstha ha02:33
wrstusing gnome-do docky, i think unity might have been better off to have used it02:33
linuxman410wrst u here02:37
wrsthey linuxman410 what's up?02:37
linuxman410just testing out a netbook i bought and fixed02:38
wrstcool what is it?02:38
linuxman410i bought a emachine em250 netbook with 250 gig hard drive and gig of ram and a 1.6 atom processor bought it for 54 dollars with broke screen02:39
cyberangerwrst: the tricky part is the seem to be overriding my dns servers02:40
linuxman410just replaced screen for 4502:40
cyberangerand I've gotta circumvent that02:40
linuxman410its working good running netbook remix 10.10 and love it02:41
wrstcool02:41
linuxman410i have 99 dollars in it02:42
wrstcool cheap02:43
linuxman410i could  get 180 for it on ebay easy but i am gonna keep this one02:43
linuxman410plenty of harddrive space it uses a sata drive02:44
wrstthat's nice with sata you can go large02:44
linuxman410and ram is upgradable too02:44
cyberangerlinuxman410: cool02:46
linuxman410oh yeah i like the asus eeepc but not enough storage02:47
cyberangerwrst: just figured out they're being highly restrictive02:48
cyberangernot blocking external servers, just the transfer I'm needing to run a dns server behind them02:49
cyberangerkinda annoying02:50
linuxman410wrst unity is not that bad02:50
wrstno linuxman410 its not but its not exaclty love either02:50
linuxman410it runs real good on netbook02:51
wrstok yeah on 10.10 its using mutter still02:51
cyberangerwrst: actually, they're spoofing any outside dns server, ugh02:55
cyberangerseems like I'm gonna have to cookup something special for this02:55
cyberanger(which I have to do for hughesnet anyhow)02:55
wrstcyberanger: yeah might be able to beat the govt off switch if the enact it02:57
cyberangerwrst: oh I know I can02:58
cyberangerthe issue is methodology02:58
wrstha ha02:58
cyberangerthe borders might get shut down in that senerio too, so head to buffalo and point an antenna to Ontario03:00
cyberangeruse a canadian satellite ISP, or a mexican satellite ISP03:00
cyberangermaybe upgrade the phone plan for us & canadian long distance, dial in03:01
cyberangerthere's allways an option, and egypt proved it too03:02
cyberangeral jazerra got the feeds out03:02
linuxman410use vonage03:03
linuxman410tether your cell phone03:03
linuxman410i have done that03:04
cyberangertethering your cell phone isn't gonna work03:04
cyberangerbased on places that have done a blackout like the kill switch03:05
cyberangerbest case, the ISP's internel network is still running, utilize it03:05
cyberangerinternational PSTN lines were overlooked in similar circumstances03:06
linuxman410how do you get to them03:06
cyberangerbut cell phone towers were powered down, or disconnected from the network03:06
cyberangerdue to their mobility03:06
wrstwell i don't think anyone should have a kill switch anyway but probalby going to happen03:07
cyberangerlinuxman410: same way you'd place a landline call to canada or mexico03:07
cyberangerwrst: issues is, we already have it03:07
linuxman410so find a canadian isp03:07
wrstyeah03:07
cyberangerwrst: the issue is implementation, unforutnately, limiting repurcussions03:08
linuxman410get ready to incur some long distance charges03:08
cyberangerthe means to run any packet switched network is that switch being on03:08
cyberangerthey just want to know how to turn it off03:08
cyberangerlinuxman410: or use a provider like hughesnet03:09
cyberangera canadian version of hughesnet03:09
cyberangeror head to buffalo, with a virginmobile.ca data card, and an antenna for it03:10
cyberangerI'm already distrubited enough for what'd likely happen now03:10
cyberangerjust upgrading for what I expect their new playbook is03:11
linuxman4102.95 for canadian dialup03:11
cyberangerlinuxman410: the issue is if they cut the pstn lines03:12
linuxman410i can make my winmodem run in ubuntu03:12
cyberangeror add noise to the line, enough to toy with the modem03:12
cyberangerthus why I'm going with a satellite option, in the long run03:13
linuxman410seen  a guy on line who run it through his directtv satellite03:13
cyberangerbut gearing up for a short term method, heading to areas I grew up in NY or PA and using directional systems across the lakes03:14
cyberangernot paranoia, more of an insurance policy03:15
linuxman410what about wild blue satelite internet03:15
cyberangerto implement any kill switch is political sucide03:15
cyberangerwildblue uses a spotbeam technology, and is US only03:15
cyberangermaking it easy to kill for the majority of the US03:16
cyberangeractually, for wildblue, the entire us03:16
linuxman410so it has to be hughes net03:16
cyberangerno, same flaw in the fact it's a US NOC on the other end03:16
linuxman410so what do you do03:17
cyberangermy current plan is to use celluar data card, a canadian card03:18
cyberangera directional antenna and head near the border03:19
cyberangermy long term plan is to use Galaxy Broadband03:19
cyberangerthey're the canadian version of hughesnet03:20
cyberangerand grab older gear, no spotbeam03:20
cyberangerthus it can go in the back of a car, with a tripod and setup nearly anywhere03:20
cyberangerthing is, if they want it down, it's going down03:23
linuxman410i have a old shortwave and i know morse code03:25
linuxman410also have a cb radio03:28
cyberangerlinuxman410: ham license?03:28
linuxman410no license03:29
cyberangerwhat's stopping you?03:29
linuxman410do not know i need to get it03:30
cyberangerthat's gonna be ideal, for a small city like where your at03:30
cyberangershortwave too03:30
linuxman410can order hand held ham radio from hong kong for 4503:33
cyberangerbut using it without a license isn't gonna look good03:35
linuxman410if it is only way to communicate who cares if it looks good03:38
cyberangerthe guy with mutiple means and a ham license03:40
cyberangerand you said cb, so you've got mutiple means too03:41
linuxman410i can take the exam on 3-26-11 in sevier county this year03:43
cyberangeror sooner elsewhere03:46
linuxman410going to go see ya later03:51
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